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8th Aug '17 12:08:06 AM Abodos
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** Daruk from ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaBreathOfTheWild'' is implied to be one. On top of being a big Goron warrior, portrayed in previous games as relying more on brute strength than finesse, his magical ability, [[BarriorWarrior Daruk's Protection]], requires simply activating the barrier at the right time and place. The backstory also depicts him as being the one Champion who struggled to pilot his [[HumongousMecha Divine Beast]].

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** Daruk from ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaBreathOfTheWild'' is implied to be one. On top of being a big Goron warrior, portrayed in previous games as relying more on brute strength than finesse, his magical ability, [[BarriorWarrior [[BarrierWarrior Daruk's Protection]], requires simply activating the barrier at the right time and place. The backstory also depicts him as being the one Champion who struggled to pilot his [[HumongousMecha Divine Beast]].
8th Aug '17 12:07:41 AM Abodos
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** Daruk from ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaBreathOfTheWild'' is implied to be one. On top of being a big Goron warrior, portrayed in previous games as relying more on brute strength than finesse, his magical ability, [[BarriorWarrior Daruk's Protection]], requires simply activating the barrier at the right time and place. The backstory also depicts him as being the one Champion who struggled to pilot his [[HumongousMecha Divine Beast]].
7th Aug '17 6:08:12 PM MsZephy7
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* Tang Rou in ''Literature/TheKingsAvatar''. She has excellent hand speed, fast enough to challenge experts in Glory, but pros such as Ye Xiu can easily beat her due to her inexperience with the game. Played with as she is being trained by Ye Xiu himself and it will be only a matter of time before she minimizes her weaknesses.
1st Aug '17 3:50:42 PM LinTaylor
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*** Freeza's entire army are shown to be this; though they can use [[KiManipulation Ki Attacks]], they all rely on scouters to detect and gauge ki levels, and can't alter their battle strength at will. As such, they are all caught flat-footed when fighting someone who can. Zarbon can [[SuperMode transform]] to increase his strength, but this is useful for only so long. Of all of them, only Captain Ginyu can raise his PowerLevel. During his fight against Dodoria, Vegeta notes that this is due to relying on brute force, like he once did.

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*** Freeza's entire army are shown to be this; though they can use [[KiManipulation Ki Attacks]], they all rely on scouters to detect and gauge ki levels, and can't alter their battle strength at will. As such, they are all caught flat-footed when fighting someone who can. Zarbon can [[SuperMode transform]] to increase his strength, but this is useful for only so long. Of all of them, only Captain Ginyu can raise his PowerLevel. During his fight against Dodoria, Vegeta notes that this is due to relying on brute force, like he once did. If ''Anime/DragonBallZResurrectionF'' is any indication, they very concept of training is alien to the Freeza Force.



*** Deconstructed in ''Anime/DragonBallZResurrectionF'' supplementary material. By his own admission, Freeza was such a prodigy that he never bothered to train because he figured no one could match his strength. But after finding out that Goku defeated Majin Buu, he realizes that if a Saiyan monkey could achieve such power through hard work and skill, then so could he. So, he finally decides to train for the first time in his life. And if the trailers are any indication... it worked. [[spoiler: He still loses due to being so confident in his new golden form that he didn't bother to master it, giving it the same stamina problem as his original 100% form.]]

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*** Deconstructed in ''Anime/DragonBallZResurrectionF'' supplementary material.''Anime/DragonBallZResurrectionF''. By his own admission, Freeza was such a prodigy that he never bothered to train because he figured no one could match his strength. But after finding out getting killed and resurrected and then being told that Goku defeated Majin Buu, Buu ([[TheDreaded one of the two beings his father told him never to cross]]), he realizes that if a Saiyan monkey could achieve such power through hard work and skill, then so could he. So, he finally decides to train for the first time in his life. And if the trailers are any indication... it worked. life and in just four months achieves a level of power bordering on PhysicalGod. [[spoiler: He still loses due to being so confident in again because of his overconfidence; his new golden form that he didn't bother to master it, giving GoldenSuperMode is certainly powerful, but it the same burns through his stamina problem as his original 100% form.at an incredible rate. If he'd kept training to overcome that flaw rather than rushing to Earth the moment he unlocked it, he would have been far stronger than even Goku and would have been able to defeat them all easily.]]
31st Jul '17 11:05:20 AM TheSinful
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* In a [[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10917821/1/The-questionable-burdens-of-leadership-of-a-troll-Emperor sequel]], this applies to Naruto's wife Xanna. Unlike her husband, she's never been a mortal so she never learned to fight like one. When Naruto deliberately blocks both from using their RealityWarper powers, she telepathically copies his fighting style but still is no match for Naruto since she doesn't have the experience and improvisation skill he does.

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* ** In a [[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10917821/1/The-questionable-burdens-of-leadership-of-a-troll-Emperor sequel]], this applies to Naruto's wife Xanna. Unlike her husband, she's never been a mortal so she never learned to fight like one. When Naruto deliberately blocks both from using their RealityWarper powers, she telepathically copies his fighting style but still is no match for Naruto since she doesn't have the experience and improvisation skill he does.


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* Some Sekirei such as Musubi in ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11701126/6/Anything-Goes-Game-Changer Anything Goes Game Changer]]'' have far more power than actual ability. Part of why Sekirei regularly lose to the [[Manga/RanmaOneHalf Nerima Wrecking Crew]], besides UnderestimatingBadassery, is that the human martial artists are incredibly skilled on top of being outright superhuman physically.
25th Jul '17 12:25:01 PM DeliciousFart
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* ''Film/ManOfSteel'': In a sense. Superman does not have the years of combat experience of the other Kryptonians, but he has lived on Earth his entire life and had a far greater amount of time to develop and control his own powers. Hence, while they are better fighters than he is, they are objectively weaker. That said, he is also more creative about applying his powers and quicker on the draw with them.

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* ''Film/ManOfSteel'': In a sense. Superman does not have the years of combat experience of the other Kryptonians, but he has lived on Earth his entire life and had a far greater amount of time to develop and control his own powers. Hence, while they are better fighters than he is, they are objectively weaker.weaker in Earth conditions. That said, he is also more creative about applying his powers and quicker on the draw with them. However, by the final battle, Zod successfully acclimated to Earth, thus matching Superman's strength, while Superman was able to learn and adapt against Kryptonian combat.
22nd Jul '17 5:25:22 PM Dere
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** Despite popular belief, Superman is actually a [[SubvertedTrope subversion]]... when writers remember that he's actually an expert combatant, having been trained by some of the greatest martial artists and warriors in the DCU[[note]]such as Batman, Wonder Woman, Wildcat or Mongul[[/note]]. There's a number of stories in which he was depowered or had to fight foes as powerful or more powerful than him and proved to be a masterful fighter, beating his opponents based on his fighting skills alone. He just "conveniently" [[ForgotAboutHisPowers tends to forget his skills]] when writers have him fight less powerful superheroes like Batman or Wonder Woman, as their fights would end much sooner if he didn't. It doesn't help that he rarely has a chance or need to display said skills, given how powerful he is, [[CriticalResearchFailure leading many writers and fans to the misconception that he's this trope]].

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** Despite popular belief, Superman is actually a [[SubvertedTrope subversion]]... when writers remember that he's actually an expert combatant, having been trained by some of the greatest martial artists and warriors in the DCU[[note]]such as Batman, Wonder Woman, Wildcat or Mongul[[/note]]. There's a number of stories in which he was depowered or had to fight foes as powerful or more powerful than him and proved to be a masterful fighter, beating his opponents based on his fighting skills alone. He just "conveniently" [[ForgotAboutHisPowers tends to forget his skills]] when writers have him fight less powerful superheroes like Batman or Wonder Woman, as their fights would end much sooner if he didn't. It doesn't help that he rarely has a chance or need to display said skills, given how powerful he is, [[CriticalResearchFailure leading many writers and fans to the misconception assume that he's this trope]].
19th Jul '17 3:34:00 PM ultimomant
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*** It's downplayed in the Resurrection F arc of ''Anime/DragonBallSuper'', where Frieza can fully control his power in his true form, sense power levels, and even control his power in his Golden state. [[spoiler: He still burns Ki at an accelerated rate, and after admittedly lasting a bit longer than in the film he loses power after going all out for only about a minute. However, as of the Universal Survival Saga, this trope has ''finally'' been averted. He tells Goku that after his last defeat, he spent his time in Hell meditating and concentrating on killing Goku in the most brutal ways possiblr and as a result, has managed to gain perfect control over his ki, allowing him to maintain his Golden form indefinitely.]]

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*** It's downplayed in the Resurrection F arc of ''Anime/DragonBallSuper'', where Frieza can fully control his power in his true form, sense power levels, and even control his power in his Golden state. [[spoiler: He still burns Ki at an accelerated rate, and after admittedly lasting a bit longer than in the film he loses power after going all out for only about a minute. However, as of the Universal Survival Saga, this trope has ''finally'' been averted. He tells Goku that after his last defeat, he spent his time in Hell meditating and concentrating on killing Goku in the most brutal ways possiblr possible and as a result, has managed to gain perfect control over his ki, allowing him to maintain his Golden form indefinitely.]]
13th Jul '17 7:25:41 AM thatmadork
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* ''Franchise/{{Terminator}}'': Terminators are designed to ''kill'', not fight. In combat they'll always use the most destructive thing they have against their target, be this a human or another Terminator. Overkill is the name of the game, to make certain they're dead. Without a weapon, they'll grab their target and slam them into floors or walls, or swing their forearms for a devastating strike. Because they're so NighInvulnerable, they don't really dodge either.
11th Jul '17 7:54:28 PM PhantomHeartless5
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*** It's downplayed in the Resurrection F arc of ''Anime/DragonBallSuper'', where Frieza can fully control his power in his true form, sense power levels, and even control his power in his Golden state. [[spoiler: He still burns Ki at an accelerated rate, and after admittedly lasting a bit longer than in the film he loses power after going all out for only about a minute. However, as of the Universal Survival Saga, this trope has ''finally'' been averted. He tells Goku that after their last defeat, he spent his time in Hell meditating and concentrating on killing Goku in the most brutal ways possiblr and as a result, has managed to gain perfect control over his ki, allowing him to maintain his Golden form indefinitely.]]

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*** It's downplayed in the Resurrection F arc of ''Anime/DragonBallSuper'', where Frieza can fully control his power in his true form, sense power levels, and even control his power in his Golden state. [[spoiler: He still burns Ki at an accelerated rate, and after admittedly lasting a bit longer than in the film he loses power after going all out for only about a minute. However, as of the Universal Survival Saga, this trope has ''finally'' been averted. He tells Goku that after their his last defeat, he spent his time in Hell meditating and concentrating on killing Goku in the most brutal ways possiblr and as a result, has managed to gain perfect control over his ki, allowing him to maintain his Golden form indefinitely.]]
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