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17th Dec '17 8:12:19 AM SeptimusHeap
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* In comics, pretty much anyone. Comicbook/{{Gambit}} [[ComicBook/{{X-Men}} and Rogue]] in particular, due to the fact that Rogue's powers make having a relationship with ANYONE impossible combined with Gambit's very much flexible idea of right and wrong often causing Rogue to go into a tirade about how she can't trust Gambit, who refuses to give up on Rogue or even cross the line by bringing up Rogue's own dark history of MoralEventHorizon-crossing when it came to Ms Marvel, whenever Rogue uses Gambit's past against him. It's invoked on Gambit's side, as he's said his actual motivation for dating Rogue was to [[TheAtoner punish himself]] for his (rather small and inconsequential and blameless) role in the Morlock Massacre.

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* In comics, pretty much anyone. Comicbook/{{Gambit}} [[ComicBook/{{X-Men}} [[ComicBook/XMen and Rogue]] in particular, due to the fact that Rogue's powers make having a relationship with ANYONE impossible combined with Gambit's very much flexible idea of right and wrong often causing Rogue to go into a tirade about how she can't trust Gambit, who refuses to give up on Rogue or even cross the line by bringing up Rogue's own dark history of MoralEventHorizon-crossing when it came to Ms Marvel, whenever Rogue uses Gambit's past against him. It's invoked on Gambit's side, as he's said his actual motivation for dating Rogue was to [[TheAtoner punish himself]] for his (rather small and inconsequential and blameless) role in the Morlock Massacre.
15th Nov '17 12:25:10 PM RedScharlach
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* Jeremy and Ian from ''Manga/ACruelGodReigns'' do this constantly. Sometimes it is [[AmbiguousSituation really hard to tell]] if Jeremy actually consents to having sex with Ian, in addition to Ian sometimes striking Jeremy out of anger. And Jeremy, while [[spoiler: eventually admits to liking Ian and realizing he loves him]], is almost alway cold and callous towards Ian, telling him often outright that he hates him.

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* Jeremy and Ian from ''Manga/ACruelGodReigns'' do this constantly. Sometimes it is [[AmbiguousSituation really hard to tell]] if Jeremy actually consents to having sex with Ian, in addition to Ian sometimes striking Jeremy out of anger. And Jeremy, while [[spoiler: eventually admits to liking Ian and realizing he loves him]], is almost alway always cold and callous towards Ian, telling him often outright that he hates him.



* In comics, pretty much anyone. Comicbook/{{Gambit}} [[ComicBook/{{X-Men}} and Rogue]] in particular, due to the fact that Rogue's powers make having a relationship with ANYONE impossible combined with Gambit's very much flexible idea of right and wrong often causing Rogue to go into a tirade about how she can't trust Gambit, who refuses to give up on Rogue or even cross the line by bringing up Rogue's own dark history of MoralEventHorizon crossing when it came to Ms Marvel, whenever Rogue uses Gambit's past against him. It's invoked on Gambit's side, as he's said his actual motivation for dating Rogue was to [[TheAtoner punish himself]] for his (rather small and inconsequential and blameless) role in the Morlock Massacre.

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* In comics, pretty much anyone. Comicbook/{{Gambit}} [[ComicBook/{{X-Men}} and Rogue]] in particular, due to the fact that Rogue's powers make having a relationship with ANYONE impossible combined with Gambit's very much flexible idea of right and wrong often causing Rogue to go into a tirade about how she can't trust Gambit, who refuses to give up on Rogue or even cross the line by bringing up Rogue's own dark history of MoralEventHorizon crossing MoralEventHorizon-crossing when it came to Ms Marvel, whenever Rogue uses Gambit's past against him. It's invoked on Gambit's side, as he's said his actual motivation for dating Rogue was to [[TheAtoner punish himself]] for his (rather small and inconsequential and blameless) role in the Morlock Massacre.



* Taken very literally in ''WesternAnimation/IceAge3DawnOfTheDinosaurs'', where the squirrel couple fight over [[MacGuffin the acorn]] while tango plays in the background.
* In the ''WesternAnimation/TheLandBeforeTime '' films, many fans have expressed favouritism for [[ToyShip a pairing]] between Littlefoot and Cera. You'd think the [[InterspeciesRomance species difference]] would be enough of a put off, but in addition, the two do argue a lot (in three films, resulting in all out fights). However, Cera has been known to be jealous when Littlefoot makes new friends.

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* Taken very literally in ''WesternAnimation/IceAge3DawnOfTheDinosaurs'', where the squirrel couple fight over [[MacGuffin the acorn]] while a tango plays in the background.
* In the ''WesternAnimation/TheLandBeforeTime '' films, many fans have expressed favouritism a liking for [[ToyShip a pairing]] between Littlefoot and Cera. You'd think the [[InterspeciesRomance species difference]] would be enough of a put off, put-off, but in addition, the two do argue a lot (in three films, resulting in all out all-out fights). However, Cera has been known to be jealous when Littlefoot makes new friends.



* In the [[Literature/TheChroniclesOfNarnia Narnia]] book ''Literature/TheHorseAndHisBoy'', Shasta [[spoiler:aka Prince Cor]] and Aravis spend most of the book arguing and making up. At the end of the story, it's mentioned that they get married so they can argue and make up more efficiently. "Effficiently" should, in this case, be read as "by having lots of sex".

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* In the [[Literature/TheChroniclesOfNarnia Narnia]] book ''Literature/TheHorseAndHisBoy'', Shasta [[spoiler:aka Prince Cor]] and Aravis spend most of the book arguing and making up. At the end of the story, it's mentioned that they get married so they can argue and make up more efficiently. "Effficiently" "Efficiently" should, in this case, be read as "by having lots of sex".



* Margaret Weisís ''Literature/TheStarOfTheGuardians'' is all built around The Masochism Tango between two of the three main characters.

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* Margaret Weisís ''Literature/TheStarOfTheGuardians'' is all built around The the Masochism Tango between two of the three main characters.



* In Francine Riversís ''Literature/RedeemingLove'', Michael and Angelís marriage suffers through a period of this. Sheís a BrokenBird former prostitute who doesnít realize how LoveHungry she actually is; heís a LoveMartyr with no relationship experience and a divine mandate to love his wife unconditionally. Itís a very weird relationship since all Angel has enough self-confidence to do is [[FemmeFatale try to seduce Michael]], which he keeps refusing because he knows [[LieBackAndThinkOfEngland she wonít make an emotional connection with sex]]. They donít even fight that much; she runs away, he goes after her, she cheats on him, he [[WouldntHitAGirl refuses to rise to the bait and fumes in silence]], she [[TheAtoner goes to ridiculous lengths to try to make up for her failures]].ÖIt all works out eventually since, [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin as the title implies]], it is ultimately a story about how Unconditional LoveRedeems.

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* In Francine Riversís ''Literature/RedeemingLove'', Michael and Angelís marriage suffers through a period of this. Sheís a BrokenBird former prostitute who doesnít realize how LoveHungry she actually is; heís a LoveMartyr with no relationship experience and a divine mandate to love his wife unconditionally. Itís a very weird relationship since all Angel has enough self-confidence to do is [[FemmeFatale try to seduce Michael]], which he keeps refusing because he knows [[LieBackAndThinkOfEngland she wonít make an emotional connection with sex]]. They donít even fight that much; she runs away, he goes after her, she cheats on him, he [[WouldntHitAGirl refuses to rise to the bait and fumes in silence]], she [[TheAtoner goes to ridiculous lengths to try to make up for her failures]].ÖIt It all works out eventually since, [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin as the title implies]], it is ultimately a story about how Unconditional LoveRedeems.



* ''Series/DoctorWho'': The Doctor and [[spoiler: River Song]]. In between constantly snarking at each other, constantly lying to each other in order to prevent paradox and her punching/slapping him in the face a few times over, she also [[spoiler: repeatedly tries to kill him because she was raised to be his assassin]]. And then, when she ''has'' to [[spoiler: kill him because it's a fixed point it time and not doing so would rip the universe apart, she adamantly refuses because she thinks she loves him too much. Their relationship only gets more complicated from that point on.]]

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* ''Series/DoctorWho'': The Doctor and [[spoiler: River Song]]. In between constantly snarking at each other, constantly lying to each other in order to prevent paradox and her punching/slapping him in the face a few times over, she also [[spoiler: repeatedly tries to kill him because she was raised to be his assassin]]. And then, when she ''has'' to [[spoiler: kill [[spoiler:kill him because it's a fixed point it in time and not doing so would rip the universe apart, she adamantly refuses because she thinks she loves him too much. Their relationship only gets more complicated from that point on.]]



* ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'': This might be part of the reason why Lois stayed with Peter more than a few months, let alone the two decades of marriage. The time travel episode has Peter ditch her repeatedly thanks to a ResetButton, and every time she seems annoyed but unsuprised.

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* ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'': This might be part of the reason why Lois stayed with Peter more than a few months, let alone the two decades of marriage. The time travel episode has Peter ditch her repeatedly thanks to a ResetButton, and every time she seems annoyed but unsuprised.unsurprised.
30th Oct '17 1:00:44 PM DrOO7
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* A familial version on ''Series/{{ER}}, with Abby and her bipolar mother Maggie. Abby outright describes their relationship as "The dance we do"ó-her mother shows up all cheerful and enthusiatically swearing that things are going to be different than the hundred other times this has happened. Abby however, recognizes this as the beginning of a manic phase and knows that it's only a matter of time before she goes off the wall and causes chaos--she outright says this to Carter just after this has indeed happened. Her mother then disappears for months before turning up again, this time in a depressed phase, possibly to the point of being suicidal. Despite how miserable the whole thing makes Abby, it's obvious that she can't bring herself to get out of it, even telling her mother after her latest suicide attempt, "I will always show up, because you have that power over me."
1st Oct '17 10:02:15 AM nombretomado
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DoNotConfuseWith RealLife [[CasualKink masochism]]. Or, for that matter, [[SinisterTangoMusic real tango]]. Or a [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TytGOeiW0aE combination of the two]]. Then again, some ''works'' [[AbuseMistake don't really make a distinction between masochism and being a victim of abuse]]...

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DoNotConfuseWith JustForFun/NotToBeConfusedWith RealLife [[CasualKink masochism]]. Or, for that matter, [[SinisterTangoMusic real tango]]. Or a [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TytGOeiW0aE combination of the two]]. Then again, some ''works'' [[AbuseMistake don't really make a distinction between masochism and being a victim of abuse]]...
30th Sep '17 8:53:35 AM Emu0
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* Tony and Ziva from ''Series/{{NCIS}}'', though the writers claim that sincere romance has never been intended, nor does it exist on screen.
29th Sep '17 6:57:15 PM Augusto
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* In the ''[[https://youtu.be/kTeQSzHGWyw Angry Office]]'' sketch from Webvideo/BrandonRogers, each and every office worker is clearly show to hate their coworkers' guts and even bully them on a regular basis. And yet, they all continue to work together and even, upon being interviewed, go on full UnreliableNarrator mode as they, upon being interviewed, proceed to refer to their coworkers as their [[BlatantLies beloved and productive team]] ''despite'' the footage of their utterly disfunctional workspace being clearly visible while they do so.

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* In the ''[[https://youtu.be/kTeQSzHGWyw Angry Office]]'' sketch from Webvideo/BrandonRogers, each and every office worker is clearly show to hate their coworkers' guts and even bully them on a regular basis. And yet, they all continue to work together and even, upon being interviewed, go on full UnreliableNarrator mode as they, upon being interviewed, they proceed to refer to their coworkers as their [[BlatantLies beloved and productive team]] ''despite'' the footage of their utterly disfunctional workspace being clearly visible while they do so.
29th Sep '17 6:55:30 PM Augusto
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* In the ''[[https://youtu.be/kTeQSzHGWyw Angry Office]]'' sketch from Webvideo/BrandonRogers, each and every office worker is clearly show to hate their coworkers' guts and even bully them on a regular basis, and yet, they all continue to work together, none of them have been fired, and they ''all'' go on full UnreliableNarrator mode as they, upon being interviewed, proceed to refer to their coworkers as their [[BlatantLies beloved and productive team]] ''despite'' the footage of their utterly disfunctional workspace being clearly visible while they do so.

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* In the ''[[https://youtu.be/kTeQSzHGWyw Angry Office]]'' sketch from Webvideo/BrandonRogers, each and every office worker is clearly show to hate their coworkers' guts and even bully them on a regular basis, and basis. And yet, they all continue to work together, none of them have been fired, together and they ''all'' even, upon being interviewed, go on full UnreliableNarrator mode as they, upon being interviewed, proceed to refer to their coworkers as their [[BlatantLies beloved and productive team]] ''despite'' the footage of their utterly disfunctional workspace being clearly visible while they do so.
29th Sep '17 6:48:28 PM Augusto
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* In the ''[[https://youtu.be/kTeQSzHGWyw Angry Office]]'' sketch from Webvideo/BrandonRogers, each and every office worker is clearly show to hate their coworkers' guts and even bully them on a regular basis, and yet, they all continue to work together, none of them have been fired, and they ''all'' go on full UnreliableNarrator mode as they, upon being interviewed, proceed to refer to their coworkers as their [[BlatantLies beloved and productive team]] ''despite'' the footage of their utterly disfunctional workspace being clearly visible while they do so.
25th Sep '17 6:14:44 PM PaulA
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-->-- '''Music/TomLehrer''', [[TropeNamers "The Masochism Tango"]]

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-->-- '''Music/TomLehrer''', [[TropeNamers "The Masochism Tango"]]
Tango", ''Music/AnEveningWastedWithTomLehrer''



* The {{Trope Namer|s}} is Music/TomLehrer's "[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHID8hMgWKc Masochism Tango]]." Ironically, though, it's not an example of this trope--[[ObligatoryBondageSong it's about a really kinky couple.]]
14th Aug '17 2:06:25 PM Eievie
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-->-- '''Music/TomLehrer''', "[[TropeNamers The Masochism Tango]]"

In fictional relationships, there's a gray area between a DestructiveRomance, a FriendlyWar and RomanticizedAbuse. Sometimes [[AmbiguousSituation the writers make it hard for the audience to figure out if the relationship is even supposed to be a good thing or not]]. Sometimes the writers don't even know the answer themselves, and sometimes this question isn't even meant to have an answer -- the characters are there for the audience to laugh at, and that's all there is to it.

Two characters are supposed to be [[HappilyMarried deeply in love]] -- despite being [[CrackPairing blatantly unsuited for each other]]. They are constantly screaming at each other or worse, and yet the characters insist they like each other. Very often, the only [[AwLookTheyReallyDoLoveEachOther indicator of the characters' affections for each other]] will be their [[GreenEyedEpiphany jealousy]] when the other shows an interest (real or [[NotWhatItLooksLike imagined]]) in a character outside of their tango.

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-->-- '''Music/TomLehrer''', "[[TropeNamers The [[TropeNamers "The Masochism Tango]]"

Tango"]]

In fictional relationships, there's a gray area between a DestructiveRomance, a FriendlyWar and RomanticizedAbuse. Sometimes [[AmbiguousSituation the writers make it hard for the audience to figure out if the relationship is even supposed to be a good thing or not]]. Sometimes the writers don't even know the answer themselves, and sometimes this question isn't even meant to have an answer -- the answer--the characters are there for the audience to laugh at, and that's all there is to it.

Two characters are supposed to be [[HappilyMarried deeply in love]] -- despite love]]--despite being [[CrackPairing blatantly unsuited for each other]]. They are constantly screaming at each other or worse, and yet the characters insist they like each other. Very often, the only [[AwLookTheyReallyDoLoveEachOther indicator of the characters' affections for each other]] will be their [[GreenEyedEpiphany jealousy]] when the other shows an interest (real or [[NotWhatItLooksLike imagined]]) in a character outside of their tango.



The partners dancing to this particular beat have already resolved the WillTheyOrWontThey issue ([[TheyDo they did]], and won't [[SheIsNotMyGirlfriend deny they're a couple]]) -- it's just the wisdom of their hook-up that's in question. This is what happens when a BelligerentSexualTension couple gets together without actually solving the belligerence.

For the platonic version, see WithFriendsLikeThese or VitriolicBestBuds.[[note]]In comparison, VitriolicBestBuds is closer to this trope, while WithFriendsLikeThese is more comparable to DestructiveRomance[[/note]] For a milder version, see SlapSlapKiss, BelligerentSexualTension, and NoAccountingForTaste. If the characters ''aren't'' at each other's throats, but their relationship feels contrived and artificial nonetheless, they've been StrangledByTheRedString. Compare AllTakeAndNoGive. If the sadism and the masochism part in the coupling is off balance, also compare LoveMartyr. PlayedForDrama, it can easily become DestructiveRomance. If the characters are married, is also falls under AwfulWeddedLife.

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The partners dancing to this particular beat have already resolved the WillTheyOrWontThey issue ([[TheyDo they did]], and won't [[SheIsNotMyGirlfriend deny they're a couple]]) -- it's couple]])--it's just the wisdom of their hook-up that's in question. This is what happens when a BelligerentSexualTension couple gets together without actually solving the belligerence.

For the platonic version, see WithFriendsLikeThese or VitriolicBestBuds.[[note]]In comparison, VitriolicBestBuds is closer to this trope, while WithFriendsLikeThese is more comparable to DestructiveRomance[[/note]] DestructiveRomance.[[/note]] For a milder version, see SlapSlapKiss, BelligerentSexualTension, and NoAccountingForTaste. If the characters ''aren't'' at each other's throats, but their relationship feels contrived and artificial nonetheless, they've been StrangledByTheRedString. Compare AllTakeAndNoGive. If the sadism and the masochism part in the coupling is off balance, also compare LoveMartyr. PlayedForDrama, it can easily become DestructiveRomance. If the characters are married, is also falls under AwfulWeddedLife.



DoNotConfuseWith RealLife [[CasualKink masochism.]] Or, for that matter, [[SinisterTangoMusic real tango]]. Or a [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TytGOeiW0aE combination of the two.]] Then again, some ''works'' [[AbuseMistake don't really make a distinction between masochism and being a victim of abuse]]...

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DoNotConfuseWith RealLife [[CasualKink masochism.]] masochism]]. Or, for that matter, [[SinisterTangoMusic real tango]]. Or a [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TytGOeiW0aE combination of the two.]] two]]. Then again, some ''works'' [[AbuseMistake don't really make a distinction between masochism and being a victim of abuse]]...






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