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28th Oct '17 1:44:44 PM nombretomado
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* ''Literature/DigitalFortress'' uses the real fact that ChristopherColumbus is interred in the Cathedral of Seville to claim that he is a saint worshipped in the "Spanish" Church, rather than him being there just as a notable person since churches were common burial places until recently. Not content with it, Creator/DanBrown then [[DanBrowned blows it completely out of the water]] by inventing that his body was butchered and turned into relics that were disseminated in churches through the whole country, with Seville being left as the proud guardian of his [[FlatWhat scrotum]].

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* ''Literature/DigitalFortress'' uses the real fact that ChristopherColumbus UsefulNotes/ChristopherColumbus is interred in the Cathedral of Seville to claim that he is a saint worshipped in the "Spanish" Church, rather than him being there just as a notable person since churches were common burial places until recently. Not content with it, Creator/DanBrown then [[DanBrowned blows it completely out of the water]] by inventing that his body was butchered and turned into relics that were disseminated in churches through the whole country, with Seville being left as the proud guardian of his [[FlatWhat scrotum]].
16th Sep '17 3:57:20 PM nombretomado
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** In the same episode, the stock footage of Pamplona's [[TheRenaissance Renaissance]] cathedral is actually Valencia's Central Market, which is a metal-based Art Deco building from just before UsefulNotes/WorldWarI, has no religious function, and is [[TelevisionGeography 600 miles away to boot]]. Footage of the actual cathedral is used to establish the aforementioned fictional church (which despite being called "cathedral" in the certificate is not, and the church they shot in is clearly smaller than the one in stock footage anyway).

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** In the same episode, the stock footage of Pamplona's [[TheRenaissance [[UsefulNotes/TheRenaissance Renaissance]] cathedral is actually Valencia's Central Market, which is a metal-based Art Deco building from just before UsefulNotes/WorldWarI, has no religious function, and is [[TelevisionGeography 600 miles away to boot]]. Footage of the actual cathedral is used to establish the aforementioned fictional church (which despite being called "cathedral" in the certificate is not, and the church they shot in is clearly smaller than the one in stock footage anyway).
8th Sep '17 5:32:28 AM Naram-Sin
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* [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0maaH2gUWa4 This]] {{Advertising/GEICO}} ad parodying the Running of the Bulls as the Running of the Bulldogs shows the crowd waving a zillion flags of Spain (which is not nearly [[CrossCulturalKerfluffle as common]] in reality) and ''Catalonia'', which has no excuse because it is nowhere near Pamplona. At least it's not the flag of Barbados like in ''Series/CarolineInTheCity''...

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* [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0maaH2gUWa4 This]] {{Advertising/GEICO}} ad parodying the Running of the Bulls as the Running "Running of the Bulldogs Bulldogs" shows the crowd waving a zillion flags of Spain (which is not nearly [[CrossCulturalKerfluffle as common]] in reality) and ''Catalonia'', which has no excuse because it is nowhere near Pamplona. At least it's not the flag of Barbados like in ''Series/CarolineInTheCity''...
8th Sep '17 5:31:41 AM Naram-Sin
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* [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0maaH2gUWa4 This]] {{Advertising/GEICO}} ad parodying the Running of the Bulls as the Running of the Bulldogs shows the crowd waving a zillion flags of Spain (which is not nearly [[CrossCulturalKerfluffle as common]] in reality) and ''Catalonia'', which has no excuse because it is nowhere near Pamplona. At least it's not the flag of Barbados like in ''Series/CarolineInTheCity''...
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* ''Film/TheDaVinciCode'' opens with Robert Langdon conferencing about [[TropeNamer symbology]] in France. He shows the audience an image similar to [[http://www.casadelcofrade.com/s/cc_images/cache_2450697554.jpg?t=1414353132 this]] and asks them the first idea it conjures in their mind. They say "hatred," "racism," and "KuKluxKlan." Langdon replies: "Yes, yes, interesting. But they would [[CrossCulturalKerfuffle disagree]] with you in Spain. There, they are robes worn by priests." This is wrong. They are ''Nazareno'' suits, worn by lay congregationists during Holy Week processions. They are never worn by priests.

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* ''Film/TheDaVinciCode'' opens with Robert Langdon conferencing about [[TropeNamer symbology]] in France. He shows the audience an image similar to [[http://www.casadelcofrade.com/s/cc_images/cache_2450697554.jpg?t=1414353132 this]] and asks them the first idea it conjures in their mind. They say "hatred," "racism," and "KuKluxKlan." Langdon replies: "Yes, yes, interesting. But they would [[CrossCulturalKerfuffle [[CrossCulturalKerfluffle disagree]] with you in Spain. There, they are robes worn by priests." This is wrong. They are ''Nazareno'' suits, worn by lay congregationists during Holy Week processions. They are never worn by priests.



** An obscure instance of the trope is the fact that the killer, [[TorosYFlamenco who fancies himself a bullfighter]], always uses a small knife called ''puntilla'' to kill his victims by cutting their spinal cord. In bullfighting, the killing blow is actually delivered to the heart with a ''estoque'', a sword with no edge that can pierce, but not cut. The ''puntilla'' is only used when the matador fails to kill the bull with the ''estoque'', and it being needed at all may get the matador booed because it is considered a result of poor performance.

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** An obscure instance of the trope is the fact that the killer, [[TorosYFlamenco who fancies himself a bullfighter]], always uses a small knife called ''puntilla'' to kill his victims by cutting their spinal cord. In bullfighting, the killing blow is actually delivered to the heart with a ''estoque'', a sword with no edge that can pierce, but not cut. The ''puntilla'' is only used when the matador fails to kill the bull with the ''estoque'', and it being needed at all may would get the matador booed because it its use is considered a result of poor performance.
13th Jun '17 9:30:50 PM nombretomado
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** In the same episode, the stock footage of Pamplona's [[TheRenaissance Renaissance]] cathedral is actually Valencia's Central Market, which is a metal-based Art Deco building from just before WorldWarOne, has no religious function, and is [[TelevisionGeography 600 miles away to boot]]. Footage of the actual cathedral is used to establish the aforementioned fictional church (which despite being called "cathedral" in the certificate is not, and the church they shot in is clearly smaller than the one in stock footage anyway).

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** In the same episode, the stock footage of Pamplona's [[TheRenaissance Renaissance]] cathedral is actually Valencia's Central Market, which is a metal-based Art Deco building from just before WorldWarOne, UsefulNotes/WorldWarI, has no religious function, and is [[TelevisionGeography 600 miles away to boot]]. Footage of the actual cathedral is used to establish the aforementioned fictional church (which despite being called "cathedral" in the certificate is not, and the church they shot in is clearly smaller than the one in stock footage anyway).
11th Jun '17 1:27:59 PM nombretomado
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* FIFA thought it would be a great idea to release a football bearing the flags of the countries that had qualified for the 2002 [[TheWorldCup World Cup]]. And it would have, if one of those countries wasn't Saudi Arabia, which has the 'Shahada'--the fundamental Islamic declaration of faith ("There is no god but God and Muhammad is His prophet")--sewn into it, taken straight from the Quran. Add to that that [[ValuesDissonance hitting something with your shoes or feet is a supreme insult in Middle Eastern culture]] and you can figure where this is going.

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* FIFA thought it would be a great idea to release a football bearing the flags of the countries that had qualified for the 2002 [[TheWorldCup [[UsefulNotes/TheWorldCup World Cup]]. And it would have, if one of those countries wasn't Saudi Arabia, which has the 'Shahada'--the fundamental Islamic declaration of faith ("There is no god but God and Muhammad is His prophet")--sewn into it, taken straight from the Quran. Add to that that [[ValuesDissonance hitting something with your shoes or feet is a supreme insult in Middle Eastern culture]] and you can figure where this is going.
31st May '17 8:59:37 AM Naram-Sin
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** The episode also [[IncrediblyLamePun runs]] with the idea that the bulls in the Running are [[YouFailReligiousStudiesForever worshipped]] (or used to be in the past), and that you shouldn't bother them during the Running because you are ruining a "sacred" moment where people join the herd in its final moment of freedom. In reality, you are not supposed to bother the bulls because [[CaptainObvious you will]] get [[LethallyStupid fucking gored]] - or worse, [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot make some other, completely innocent person get gored instead]]. The weird thing is that the dialogue actually does mention that touching the bull will make it more dangerous and liable to attack in that very same scene, but instead of following its logical conclusion, the writer decides to throw in some pseudo-religious mumbo-jumbo that isn't needed. In another scene, the so-called cultural experts wonder if the killer's intention is to replace Saint Firmin as patron saint of Pamplona, which again shows the author's poor understanding of Catholicism.[[note]]Despite [[SadlyMythtaken common belief]], Saint Firmin is not actually the patron saint of Pamplona, by the way, but the whole of Navarre. The patron saint of Pamplona is St. Saturnin of Toulouse.[[/note]]
** An obscure instance of the trope is in the fact that the killer, [[TorosYFlamenco who fancies himself a bullfighter]], always uses a small knife called ''puntilla'' to kill his victims by cutting their spinal cord. In bullfighting, the killing blow is actually delivered to the heart with a ''estoque'', a sword with no edge that can pierce, but not cut. The ''puntilla'' is only used when the matador fails to kill the bull with the ''estoque'', and it being needed is considered a poor performance on the bullfighter's part.

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** The episode also [[IncrediblyLamePun runs]] with the idea that the bulls in the Running are [[YouFailReligiousStudiesForever worshipped]] (or used to be in the past), and that you shouldn't bother them during the Running because you are ruining a "sacred" moment where people join the herd in its final moment of freedom. In reality, you are not supposed to bother the bulls because [[CaptainObvious you will]] get [[LethallyStupid fucking gored]] - or worse, [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot make some other, completely innocent person get gored instead]]. The weird thing is that the dialogue actually does mention that touching the bull will make it more dangerous and liable to attack in that very same scene, but instead of following its logical conclusion, the writer decides to throw in some pseudo-religious mumbo-jumbo that isn't needed. In another scene, the so-called cultural experts wonder if the killer's intention is to replace Saint Firmin as patron saint of Pamplona, which again shows the author's poor understanding of Catholicism.[[note]]Despite Pamplona,[[note]]Despite [[SadlyMythtaken common belief]], Saint Firmin is not actually the patron saint of Pamplona, by the way, but the whole of Navarre. The patron saint of Pamplona is St. Saturnin of Toulouse.[[/note]]
[[/note]] which again shows the author's poor understanding of Catholicism.
** An obscure instance of the trope is in the fact that the killer, [[TorosYFlamenco who fancies himself a bullfighter]], always uses a small knife called ''puntilla'' to kill his victims by cutting their spinal cord. In bullfighting, the killing blow is actually delivered to the heart with a ''estoque'', a sword with no edge that can pierce, but not cut. The ''puntilla'' is only used when the matador fails to kill the bull with the ''estoque'', and it being needed at all may get the matador booed because it is considered a result of poor performance on the bullfighter's part.performance.


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** Early in 2017, a slip of the tongue by Polish Foreign Minister Witold Waszczykowski gave us the memetic BananaRepublic of [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Escobar San Escobar]].
23rd May '17 3:32:26 AM Naram-Sin
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** An obscure instance of the trope is in the fact that the killer, [[TorosYFlamenco who fancies himself a bullfighter]], always uses a small knife called ''puntilla'' to kill his victims by cutting their spinal cord. In bullfighting, the killing blow is instead delivered to the heart with a ''estoque'', a sword with no edge that can pierce, but not cut. The ''puntilla'' is only used when the matador fails to kill the bull with the ''estoque'', and it being needed is considered a poor performance on the bullfighter's part.

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** An obscure instance of the trope is in the fact that the killer, [[TorosYFlamenco who fancies himself a bullfighter]], always uses a small knife called ''puntilla'' to kill his victims by cutting their spinal cord. In bullfighting, the killing blow is instead actually delivered to the heart with a ''estoque'', a sword with no edge that can pierce, but not cut. The ''puntilla'' is only used when the matador fails to kill the bull with the ''estoque'', and it being needed is considered a poor performance on the bullfighter's part.
23rd May '17 3:27:53 AM Naram-Sin
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* ''Film/TheDaVinciCode'' opens with a conference about symbology, by Robert Langdon, in France. He shows the audience an image similar to [[http://www.casadelcofrade.com/s/cc_images/cache_2450697554.jpg?t=1414353132 this]] and asks them what are the first ideas it conjures in their mind. They say "hatred," "racism," and "KuKluxKlan." Langdon replies: "Yes, yes, interesting. But they would disagree with you in Spain. There, they are robes worn by priests." This is wrong. They are ''Nazareno'' suits, worn by lay people who are members of a religious brotherhood (''cofradía''), during Holy Week processions. They are never worn by priests.

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* ''Film/TheDaVinciCode'' opens with a conference about symbology, by Robert Langdon, Langdon conferencing about [[TropeNamer symbology]] in France. He shows the audience an image similar to [[http://www.casadelcofrade.com/s/cc_images/cache_2450697554.jpg?t=1414353132 this]] and asks them what are the first ideas idea it conjures in their mind. They say "hatred," "racism," and "KuKluxKlan." Langdon replies: "Yes, yes, interesting. But they would disagree [[CrossCulturalKerfuffle disagree]] with you in Spain. There, they are robes worn by priests." This is wrong. They are ''Nazareno'' suits, worn by lay people who are members of a religious brotherhood (''cofradía''), congregationists during Holy Week processions. They are never worn by priests.



* In the 1959 movie ''Thunder in the Sun'', about a group of 19th century Basque immigrants in California, the characters use [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jai_alai jai alai]] baskets as weapons and the ''irrintzi'' (a traditional high-pitched yelling used by Basque shepherds to denote happiness) as a coded language.
* ''Film/KingdomOfHeaven'' has a Muslim character that wears versicles of the Quran sewn into his clothes. It is expressly forbidden in Islam to sew words from the Quran into clothing. Only a few exceptions are allowed and only in the case of flags and banners.

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* In the 1959 movie ''Thunder in the Sun'', about a group of 19th century Basque immigrants in California, the characters use [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jai_alai jai alai]] baskets as weapons and the ''irrintzi'' (a traditional high-pitched yelling used by Basque shepherds to denote happiness) as a coded language.
language. The latter may or may not have been inspired by [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silbo_Gomero Silbo Gomero]], a pre-Hispanic whistling language in the Canary Islands (which naturally has nothing to do with Basque culture, but neither does the [[TorosYFlamenco Flamenco]] danced by the characters in another scene).
* ''Film/KingdomOfHeaven'' has a Muslim character that who wears versicles of the Quran sewn into his clothes. It is expressly forbidden in Islam to sew words from the Quran into clothing. Only a few exceptions are allowed and only in the case of flags and banners.



* ''Literature/DigitalFortress'' uses the real fact that ChristopherColumbus is interred in the Cathedral of Seville to claim that he is a saint worshipped in the "Spanish" Church, rather than him being there just as a notable person since churches were common burial places until recently. Not content with it, Creator/DanBrown then [[DanBrowned blows it completely out of the water]] by inventing that his body was butchered and turned into relics that were disseminated in churches through the whole country, with Seville being the proud guardian of his [[FlatWhat scrotum]].

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* ''Literature/DigitalFortress'' uses the real fact that ChristopherColumbus is interred in the Cathedral of Seville to claim that he is a saint worshipped in the "Spanish" Church, rather than him being there just as a notable person since churches were common burial places until recently. Not content with it, Creator/DanBrown then [[DanBrowned blows it completely out of the water]] by inventing that his body was butchered and turned into relics that were disseminated in churches through the whole country, with Seville being left as the proud guardian of his [[FlatWhat scrotum]].



** The episode also [[IncrediblyLamePun runs]] with the idea that the bulls in the Running are worshipped (or used to be in the past), and that you shouldn't bother them during the Running because you are ruining a "sacred" moment where people join the herd in its final moment of freedom. In reality, you are not supposed to bother the bulls because you will get fucking gored - or worse, [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot make some other, completely innocent person get gored instead]]. The weird thing is that the dialogue actually does mention that touching the bull will make it more dangerous and liable to attack in that very same scene, but instead of following its logical conclusion, the writer decides to throw in some pseudo-religious mumbo-jumbo where it isn't needed.

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** The episode also [[IncrediblyLamePun runs]] with the idea that the bulls in the Running are worshipped [[YouFailReligiousStudiesForever worshipped]] (or used to be in the past), and that you shouldn't bother them during the Running because you are ruining a "sacred" moment where people join the herd in its final moment of freedom. In reality, you are not supposed to bother the bulls because [[CaptainObvious you will will]] get [[LethallyStupid fucking gored gored]] - or worse, [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot make some other, completely innocent person get gored instead]]. The weird thing is that the dialogue actually does mention that touching the bull will make it more dangerous and liable to attack in that very same scene, but instead of following its logical conclusion, the writer decides to throw in some pseudo-religious mumbo-jumbo where it that isn't needed. In another scene, the so-called cultural experts wonder if the killer's intention is to replace Saint Firmin as patron saint of Pamplona, which again shows the author's poor understanding of Catholicism.[[note]]Despite [[SadlyMythtaken common belief]], Saint Firmin is not actually the patron saint of Pamplona, by the way, but the whole of Navarre. The patron saint of Pamplona is St. Saturnin of Toulouse.[[/note]]
** An obscure instance of the trope is in the fact that the killer, [[TorosYFlamenco who fancies himself a bullfighter]], always uses a small knife called ''puntilla'' to kill his victims by cutting their spinal cord. In bullfighting, the killing blow is instead delivered to the heart with a ''estoque'', a sword with no edge that can pierce, but not cut. The ''puntilla'' is only used when the matador fails to kill the bull with the ''estoque'', and it being needed is considered a poor performance on the bullfighter's part.
21st May '17 6:00:04 PM Naram-Sin
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** The episode also [[IncrediblyLamePun runs]] with the idea that the bulls in the Running are worshipped (or used to be in the past), and that you shouldn't bother them during the Running because you are ruining a "sacred" moment where people join the herd in its final moment of freedom. In reality, you are not supposed to bother the bulls because you will get fucking gored - or worse, make some other, completely innocent person get gored instead. The weird thing is that the dialogue actually does mention that touching the bull will make it more dangerous and liable to attack in that very same scene, but instead of following its logical conclusion, the writer decides to throw in some pseudo-religious mumbo-jumbo where it isn't needed.

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** The episode also [[IncrediblyLamePun runs]] with the idea that the bulls in the Running are worshipped (or used to be in the past), and that you shouldn't bother them during the Running because you are ruining a "sacred" moment where people join the herd in its final moment of freedom. In reality, you are not supposed to bother the bulls because you will get fucking gored - or worse, [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot make some other, completely innocent person get gored instead.instead]]. The weird thing is that the dialogue actually does mention that touching the bull will make it more dangerous and liable to attack in that very same scene, but instead of following its logical conclusion, the writer decides to throw in some pseudo-religious mumbo-jumbo where it isn't needed.
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