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23rd Apr '16 3:23:06 PM AnotherGuy
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** Season 2 had Superman, Wonder Woman, Batman and others on an intergalactic trial, leaving just the B-listers and Young Justice to deal with a worldwide threat. It gets subverted further when Young Justice becomes a part of the main JL roster.
23rd Apr '16 3:14:25 PM AnotherGuy
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** First off, the obvious: Superman can't be everywhere at once. Every DC city has its own hero (say, ComicBook/TheFlash has Central City, ComicBook/GreenLantern has Coast City, and so on.)
13th Apr '16 10:01:54 PM frogpatrol
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** In ''Series/{{Torchwood}}: Children of Earth'', this is played harrowingly straight, except that it's '''the Doctor''' from ''Series/DoctorWho'' who stays away. After learning that [[spoiler:the government is willing to give up children to the aliens]], Gwen posits that the reason the Doctor doesn't do more to help Earth is that sometimes the Doctor is too ''disgusted'' by {{humans|AreTheRealMonsters}}. However, this is just Gwen speculating -- the Doctor has been known to just not ''know'' Earth is in danger, since he's definitely not omniscient. WordOfGod is that the Doctor will never appear in ''Torchwood'', as ''Torchwood'' is very much not aimed at children and his presence might encourage them to watch it.

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** In ''Series/{{Torchwood}}: Children of Earth'', this is played harrowingly straight, except that it's '''the Doctor''' ''the Doctor'' from ''Series/DoctorWho'' who stays away. After learning that [[spoiler:the government is willing to give up children to the aliens]], aliens, Gwen posits that the reason the Doctor doesn't do more to help Earth is that sometimes the Doctor is too ''disgusted'' by {{humans|AreTheRealMonsters}}. {{humans|AreTheRealMonsters}}]]. However, this is just Gwen speculating -- the speculating. The Doctor has been known to just not ''know'' Earth is in danger, since he's definitely not omniscient. WordOfGod is said that the Doctor will would never appear in ''Torchwood'', as ''Torchwood'' is very much not aimed at children and his presence might encourage them to watch it.



** The other ''Doctor Who'' spin off, ''Series/TheSarahJaneAdventures'' also has this problem. The Doctor pops in occasionally, but for the most part the fate of the Earth (or at least [[AliensOfLondon London]]) appears to be in the hands of a middle-aged woman and some school-aged children. Likewise, while it's established that Sarah Jane DoesNotLikeGuns and the ''Doctor Who'' CrisisCrossover "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS30E12TheStolenEarth "The Stolen Earth"]] implies this is why she doesn't ever call in shoot-first-ask-questions-later Torchwood (and the real out-of-universe reason being, again, ''{{Series/Torchwood}}'' [[DarkerAndEdgier is not for kids]], the which is [[LighterAndSofter exact opposite of SJA's tone]]), it's still bit glaring that Sarah Jane and Captain Jack Harkness never seem to share notes in crisis situations, even after working together well in [[Recap/DoctorWhoS30E13JourneysEnd "Journey's End"]].

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** The other ''Doctor Who'' spin off, ''Series/TheSarahJaneAdventures'' also has this problem. The Doctor pops in occasionally, but for the most part the fate of the Earth (or at least [[AliensOfLondon London]]) appears to be in the hands of a middle-aged woman and some school-aged children. Likewise, while it's established that Sarah Jane DoesNotLikeGuns and the ''Doctor Who'' CrisisCrossover "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS30E12TheStolenEarth "The Stolen Earth"]] implies this is why she doesn't ever call in shoot-first-ask-questions-later UNIT or Torchwood (and the real out-of-universe reason being, again, ''{{Series/Torchwood}}'' [[DarkerAndEdgier is not for kids]], kids]] and the which is [[LighterAndSofter exact opposite of SJA's tone]]), it's still bit glaring that Sarah Jane and Captain Jack Harkness never seem to share notes in crisis situations, even after working together well in [[Recap/DoctorWhoS30E13JourneysEnd "Journey's End"]].
12th Apr '16 7:10:37 AM DoctorNemesis
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* In the ''Doctor Who'' / DC Universe crossover "[[http://doctorwhointernetadventures.wikia.com/wiki/XIA05_-_Fear_Itself Fear Itself]]", Superman is brought to Gotham at one point and reflects on how Batman always hates it when he shows up, believing it's because Batman feels compelled to solve the city's problems single-handedly. Later, we see Batman's thoughts on the issue, where it's revealed that the issue for ''him'' isn't so much one of territoriality as it is effectiveness; when faced with a superpowered alien showing up and easily handing them their asses, the criminals of Gotham consequently tend to be less frightened of the prospect of encountering a guy in a bat-suit, thus making Batman's job harder when Superman eventually leaves.
9th Apr '16 8:56:13 PM darksoul4242
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** ''Film/ThorTheDarkWorld'' avoids this by setting large bulk of the story in other realms besides Midgard and the Earth scenes in London. This second part involves a lot of telporting that Mjölnir has trouble keeping up with.

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** ''Film/ThorTheDarkWorld'' avoids this by setting the large bulk of the story in other realms besides Midgard and the Earth scenes in London. This second part involves a lot of telporting that Mjölnir has trouble keeping up with.
9th Apr '16 6:47:21 AM darksoul4242
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* Amuro Rey and Char Aznable never appeared in ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamZZ'' despite appearing in the opening. Their rivalry was supposed to be settled in the show but Creator/YoshiyukiTomino was given the greenlit to produce ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamCharsCounterattack Char's Counterattack]]''; hence, Sayla Mass appeared in the second half of show and she and Bright Noa speculate that Char is probably watching in the sidelines waiting for the opportunity to return to Zeon while Amuro was mentioned in passing by Hayato that he's on duty somewhere. ''Gundam Evolve'' revealed that he's also fighting against Neo-Zeon though not the final battle where Haman and Judau are. However, Sayla didn't appeared in the movie as her voice actress is unavailable ''again'' and she's offhand mentioned in a flashback by Char while remembering Lalah's death. Many fans were also expecting Kamille Bidan and Judau Ashta to appear to help Amuro stop Char. But side materials mentioned that Kamille retired to civilian life with Fa as a doctor while Judau is assigned in the Jovian colony.

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* Amuro Rey and Char Aznable never appeared in ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamZZ'' despite appearing in the opening. Their rivalry was supposed to be settled in the show but Creator/YoshiyukiTomino was given the greenlit to produce ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamCharsCounterattack Char's Counterattack]]''; hence, Sayla Mass appeared in the second half of show and she and Bright Noa speculate that Char is probably watching in the sidelines waiting for the opportunity to return to Zeon while Amuro was mentioned in passing by Hayato that he's on duty somewhere. ''Gundam Evolve'' revealed that he's also fighting against Neo-Zeon though not the final battle where Haman and Judau are. However, Sayla didn't appeared appear in the movie as her voice actress is unavailable was ''again'' unavailable, and she's offhand mentioned in a flashback by Char while remembering Lalah's death. Many fans were also expecting Kamille Bidan and Judau Ashta to appear to help Amuro stop Char. But side materials mentioned that Kamille retired to civilian life with Fa as a doctor while Judau is assigned in the Jovian colony.
29th Mar '16 9:06:41 AM ThorennG
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* ''Podcast/ThrillngAdventureHour'': Played straight and averted. One of the segments, a superhero show called "The Adventures of Captain Laserbeam", features two heroes, Captain Laserbeam and Phillip Fathom. While Fathom frequently teams up with Captain Laserbeam in his city, Apex City, Captain Laserbeam never joins Fathom in his own adventures in his city, Aquapolis.

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* ''Podcast/ThrillngAdventureHour'': ''Podcast/TheThrillingAdventureHour'': Played straight and averted. One of the segments, a superhero show called "The Adventures of Captain Laserbeam", features two heroes, Captain Laserbeam and Phillip Fathom. While Fathom frequently teams up with Captain Laserbeam in his city, Apex City, Captain Laserbeam never joins Fathom in his own adventures in his city, Aquapolis.
28th Mar '16 2:45:58 PM potatohawk
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** The Caped Crusader's hometown of Gotham City is the {{Trope Namer|s}}. The Dark Knight himself is the poster child for the down-to-Earth superhero: an [[BadassNormal ordinary man]] who relies on "mundane means": {{training|FromHell}}, [[BadassBookworm smarts]], [[TerrorHero a scary costume]] and [[TheDeterminator pure determination]] to get the job done ([[FictionFiveHundred and money]], [[AnthropicPrinciple lots of money]]); he just wouldn't be Batman if he [[EmpoweredBadassNormal gained superpowers]] or called upon superpowered allies as a DeusExMachina to solve the pervasive risks of being a superhero. In universe, he comes across as being paranoid and mistrustful of metahuman heroes and AppliedPhlebotinum in general and his attitude towards other heroes so much as entering the city uninvited is an unequivocal [[LetsYouAndHimFight boot to the glutes]].

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** The Caped Crusader's hometown of Gotham City is the {{Trope Namer|s}}. The Dark Knight himself is the poster child for the down-to-Earth superhero: an [[BadassNormal ordinary man]] who relies on "mundane means": {{training|FromHell}}, [[BadassBookworm smarts]], [[TerrorHero a scary costume]] and [[TheDeterminator pure determination]] to get the job done ([[FictionFiveHundred and and]] [[CrimefightingWithCash money]], [[AnthropicPrinciple lots of money]]); he just wouldn't be Batman if he [[EmpoweredBadassNormal gained superpowers]] or called upon superpowered allies as a DeusExMachina to solve the pervasive risks of being a superhero. In universe, he comes across as being paranoid and mistrustful of metahuman heroes and AppliedPhlebotinum in general and his attitude towards other heroes so much as entering the city uninvited is an unequivocal [[LetsYouAndHimFight boot to the glutes]].
5th Mar '16 5:08:03 PM AP
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** Also, while a ''Daredevil/Jessica Jones'' crossover is planned [[Series/TheDefenders eventually]], it seems a bit odd that the events of the former don't even get a cursory mention in the latter despite both taking place in Hell's Kitchen (there are some mentions in the latter, like the Union Allied article by Ben Urich appearing at one point, but not many).

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** Also, while a ''Daredevil/Jessica Jones'' crossover is planned [[Series/TheDefenders eventually]], it seems a bit odd that this trope is justified within the events first season of the former don't even get a cursory mention in the latter despite both taking place in Hell's Kitchen (there are some mentions in the latter, ''Jessica Jones''. Claire Temple asks if Jessica would like the Union Allied article by Ben Urich appearing at one point, but to ask for Daredevil's assistance and she declines due to not many).wanting to endanger anymore lives.
26th Jan '16 8:16:26 AM dmcreif
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** On the flip side, [[WebVideo/HonestTrailers some]] [[Creator/DougWalker reviewers]] have asked how Baron Von Strucker was dangerous enough to merit sending the entire team after him in the prologue of ''Film/AvengersAgeOfUltron'', especially compared to the above threats which were handled individually.

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** On the flip side, [[WebVideo/HonestTrailers some]] [[Creator/DougWalker reviewers]] have asked how Baron Von Strucker was dangerous enough to merit sending the entire team after him in the prologue of ''Film/AvengersAgeOfUltron'', especially compared to the above threats which were handled individually. The simple answer is that the plots of the individual movies all are handling immediate issues, to be sorted out by whoever was there. None of those events lasted long enough to call in the rest of the Avengers. By the time any of the Avengers would have been made aware of the problem and could have gotten on scene, the situation was already resolved. By contrast, attacking Von Strucker's base of operations was a planned operation which would have given the Avengers time to assemble and act.
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