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5th Sep '17 5:25:45 PM Peteman
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** Various events, especially the death of Jean and most recently ''ComicBook/AvengersVsXMen'', have however lead to deconstructing this trope hard. As the only thing he had close to a personal life died, he basically threw himself into work 24/7, and as mutants plummeted in numbers and things got DarkerAndEdgier, he pushed the team into darker territory to keep everyone safe, resulting in some morally ambiguous decisions. He's now frequently compared to Magneto (who he gave a spot on the team to when he came asking for a HeelFaceTurn), due to his willingness to use extreme measures others would find appalling or a last resort.

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** Various events, especially the death of Jean and most recently ''ComicBook/AvengersVsXMen'', have however lead to deconstructing this trope hard.trope. As the only thing he had close to a personal life died, he basically threw himself into work 24/7, and as mutants plummeted in numbers and things got DarkerAndEdgier, he pushed the team into darker territory to keep everyone safe, resulting in some morally ambiguous decisions. He's now frequently compared to Magneto (who he gave a spot on the team to when he came asking for a HeelFaceTurn), due to his willingness to use extreme measures others would find appalling or a last resort.
14th Aug '17 4:56:54 AM WillyFourEyes
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** On the flipside, his counterpark Mark in ''Anime/BattleOfThePlanets'' plays this pretty straight.

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** On the flipside, his counterpark Mark in ''Anime/BattleOfThePlanets'' counterpart Mark plays this pretty straight.
31st May '17 6:15:48 PM nombretomado
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* Despite not being a single main protagonist (for there isn't one), Mike can fit this in TheYoungOnes. He's not standard in any way, but compared to the craziness of Neil, Rick, and Vyvyan, Mike seems much calmer and notably less funny (and by extension, popular). However, he leads the housemates into many of the main events and rather than acting as an audience surrogate, he acts as a set up for some of the jokes, without causing as many laughs himself. He is also involved in barely any of the slapstick violence compared to the other three, but he is usually in charge of what happens in the "story". A lot of people don't think much of Mike, but he provides a contrast that make the other three so funny.

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* Despite not being a single main protagonist (for there isn't one), Mike can fit this in TheYoungOnes.''Series/TheYoungOnes''. He's not standard in any way, but compared to the craziness of Neil, Rick, and Vyvyan, Mike seems much calmer and notably less funny (and by extension, popular). However, he leads the housemates into many of the main events and rather than acting as an audience surrogate, he acts as a set up for some of the jokes, without causing as many laughs himself. He is also involved in barely any of the slapstick violence compared to the other three, but he is usually in charge of what happens in the "story". A lot of people don't think much of Mike, but he provides a contrast that make the other three so funny.
17th May '17 5:47:50 AM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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Happens quite a bit in HighFantasy and [[MohsScaleOfScienceFictionHardness Science Fantasy]] series in general. The main hero shoulders the burden of being the standard [[TheHerosJourney Campbellian hero]], generally a standard white male protagonist who [[ComingOfAgeStory grows from a boy to a man]] to a MessianicArchetype. His companions' role in the plot is not so strictly defined, and are allowed to be quirky, flawed and hint at HiddenDepths.

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Happens quite a bit in HighFantasy and [[MohsScaleOfScienceFictionHardness Science Fantasy]] series in general. The main hero shoulders the burden of being the standard [[TheHerosJourney Campbellian hero]], generally a standard white male protagonist who [[ComingOfAgeStory grows from a boy to a man]] to a MessianicArchetype. His companions' role in the plot is not so strictly defined, and are allowed to be quirky, flawed and hint at HiddenDepths.
HiddenDepths. This trope is also particularly common in [[RolePlayingGames Role-Playing Games]] where the leader is meant to stand in for the player.



* In most [=RPG=]s, the {{PC}} (player-created or otherwise) is this character. Such tropes as {{AFGNCAAP}} and HeroicMime come under this trope, so examples include [[Franchise/TheLegendOfZelda Link]], most Franchise/FinalFantasy or FireEmblem player characters, and nearly all characters on those two pages.
** Rare subversions tend to be in games which shade towards InteractiveFiction (where the PC is a fleshed-out character with their own personality) or towards WideOpenSandbox gaming (where the KarmaMeter and responses you choose in dialogue give your character personality. Creator/BioWare {{RPG}}s, especially the ''Franchise/BaldursGate'' and ''Franchise/MassEffect'' series, provide good examples.
** In fact, the Bioware games go to almost the exact opposite of this trope, acknowledging that the player's character becomes an awe-inspiring demigod before the first story's even over, leaving plenty of room for the world to be even more impressed in the sequels. The player's uncanny and sometimes unlikely ability to lead (despite whatever other flaws they might have) is just as often called out.

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* In most [=RPG=]s, the {{PC}} (player-created or otherwise) is this character. Such tropes as {{AFGNCAAP}} and HeroicMime come under this trope, so examples include [[Franchise/TheLegendOfZelda Link]], most Franchise/FinalFantasy or FireEmblem player characters, and nearly all characters on those two pages.
** Rare subversions tend to be in
Creator/{{Bioware}} games which shade towards InteractiveFiction (where the PC is a fleshed-out character with their own personality) or towards WideOpenSandbox gaming (where the KarmaMeter and responses you choose in dialogue give your character personality. Creator/BioWare {{RPG}}s, especially like the ''Franchise/BaldursGate'' and ''Franchise/MassEffect'' series, provide good examples.
** In fact, the Bioware games go to almost the exact opposite of
franchises are notable for subverting this trope, acknowledging that by allowing their protagonists to express plenty of personality through player-chosen responses; they may constantly be the player's character becomes an awe-inspiring demigod before the first story's even over, leaving OnlySaneMan of their group, but there's plenty of room for the world them to also be even more impressed in the sequels. The player's uncanny and sometimes unlikely ability to lead (despite whatever other flaws they might have) is just as often called out.goofy, hardass, flirty, sarcastic, etc.



* While not an example of this in the main platformers since there's never any team to lead, [[Franchise/SuperMarioBros Mario]] fulfills this role in the RPG spinoffs, which generally feature very quirky party members in contrast to his intentionally flat character seen across all media.
* In ''VideoGame/{{Borderlands 2}}'', Roland fulfills this role for the Crimson Raiders and the former Vault Hunters, as both the leader of the resistance and as the StraightMan to his companions.

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* ''Franchise/SuperMarioBros'': While not an example of this in the main platformers since there's never any team to lead, [[Franchise/SuperMarioBros Mario]] Mario fulfills this role in the RPG spinoffs, which generally feature very quirky party members in contrast to his intentionally flat character seen across all media.
* In ''VideoGame/{{Borderlands 2}}'', ''VideoGame/Borderlands2'', Roland fulfills this role for the Crimson Raiders and the former Vault Hunters, as both the leader of the resistance and as the StraightMan to his companions.
17th May '17 5:27:33 AM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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* Averted in ''Anime/Persona4TheAnimation'', where, unlike in the games, [[CanonName Yu Narukami]] fits the "calm, collected leader" image, but [[DeadpanSnarker he]] [[SeriousBusiness has]] [[TheGadfly his]] [[CovertPervert fair share]] of [[TheComicallySerious humorous]] [[{{Cloudcuckoolander}} quirks]] [[LargeHam to keep things]] interesting; In addition to being a certified badass. [[spoiler: Also, like the rest of his team, Yu's got his own [[BeneathTheMask share of issues]]. Deep down, he's actually an insecure BrokenAce with a low self opinion. He get's his strength from the [[ThePowerOfFriendship bonds he shares with his friends and family]], something he never had before coming to Inaba, and thus develops an intense fear of losing people he's close to.]]

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* Averted in ''Anime/Persona4TheAnimation'', where, where unlike in the games, original ''VideoGame/Persona4'', [[CanonName Yu Narukami]] fits the "calm, badass, collected leader" image, but [[DeadpanSnarker he]] but]] [[SeriousBusiness has]] [[TheGadfly his]] [[CovertPervert fair share]] of [[TheComicallySerious humorous]] [[{{Cloudcuckoolander}} quirks]] [[LargeHam to keep things]] interesting; In addition to being a certified badass.interesting. [[spoiler: Also, like the rest of his team, Yu's got his own [[BeneathTheMask share of issues]]. Deep down, he's actually an insecure BrokenAce with a low self opinion. self-opinion. He get's gets his strength from the [[ThePowerOfFriendship bonds he shares with his friends and family]], something he never had before coming to Inaba, and thus develops an intense fear of losing people he's close to.]]
16th Apr '17 9:51:21 PM Scabbard
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* Leonardo is this in some incarnations of the Franchise/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles, most notably in the 80 cartoon. His 2003 incarnation, on the other hand, subverts this trope. His 2012 incarnation actually seems to be ''inverting'' he trope.

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* Leonardo is this in some incarnations of the Franchise/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles, most notably in the 80 cartoon. His 2003 incarnation, on the other hand, subverts this trope. His 2012 incarnation actually seems to be ''inverting'' he the trope.
6th Dec '16 7:03:58 AM CurledUpWithDakka
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** [[{{Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine}} Sisko]] is the [[{{InvertedTrope}} Inversion]] of this trope. The station is full of people with their own narratives, agendas, and personal baggage, most of whom aren't even under his command. [[{{Main/BadassBureaucrat}} A big part of his job is saying no to people when their about to so something short-sighted or politically dangerous]].

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** [[{{Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine}} Sisko]] is the [[{{InvertedTrope}} Inversion]] of this trope. The station is full of people with their own narratives, agendas, and personal baggage, most of whom aren't even under his command. [[{{Main/BadassBureaucrat}} A big part of his job is saying no to people when their they're about to so something short-sighted or politically dangerous]].
15th Nov '16 12:41:27 AM Morgenthaler
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* Averted in ''Anime/Persona4TheAnimation'', where, unlike in the games, [[CanonName Yu Narukami]] fits the "calm, collected leader" image, but [[DeadpanSnarker he]] [[SeriousBusiness has]] [[TheGadfly his]] [[CovertPervert fair share]] of [[TheComicallySerious humorous]] [[{{Cloudcuckoolander}} quirks]] [[LargeHam to keep things]] interesting; In addition to being a certified {{Badass}}. [[spoiler: Also, like the rest of his team, Yu's got his own [[BeneathTheMask share of issues]]. Deep down, he's actually an insecure BrokenAce with a low self opinion. He get's his strength from the [[ThePowerOfFriendship bonds he shares with his friends and family]], something he never had before coming to Inaba, and thus develops an intense fear of losing people he's close to.]]

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* Averted in ''Anime/Persona4TheAnimation'', where, unlike in the games, [[CanonName Yu Narukami]] fits the "calm, collected leader" image, but [[DeadpanSnarker he]] [[SeriousBusiness has]] [[TheGadfly his]] [[CovertPervert fair share]] of [[TheComicallySerious humorous]] [[{{Cloudcuckoolander}} quirks]] [[LargeHam to keep things]] interesting; In addition to being a certified {{Badass}}.badass. [[spoiler: Also, like the rest of his team, Yu's got his own [[BeneathTheMask share of issues]]. Deep down, he's actually an insecure BrokenAce with a low self opinion. He get's his strength from the [[ThePowerOfFriendship bonds he shares with his friends and family]], something he never had before coming to Inaba, and thus develops an intense fear of losing people he's close to.]]
31st Oct '16 10:43:50 AM siberia82
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* ''Film/XMenFilmSeries'': Played straight with [[XMenFilmSeries/ProfessorCharlesFrancisXavier Professor Charles Xavier]] in [[Film/XMen1 the]] [[Film/X2XMenUnited original]] [[Film/XMenTheLastStand trilogy]], where he's a StaticCharacter who doesn't really get to be more than TheMentor to the X-Men. It's averted with the [[Film/XMenFirstClass First]] [[Film/XMenDaysOfFuturePast Class]] [[Film/XMenApocalypse trilogy]], where he's upgraded to the HeroProtagonist and becomes a RoundedCharacter.

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* ''Film/XMenFilmSeries'': Played straight with [[XMenFilmSeries/ProfessorCharlesFrancisXavier [[Characters/XMenFilmSeriesProfessorCharlesXavier Professor Charles Xavier]] in [[Film/XMen1 the]] [[Film/X2XMenUnited original]] [[Film/XMenTheLastStand trilogy]], where he's a StaticCharacter who doesn't really get to be more than TheMentor to the X-Men. It's averted with the [[Film/XMenFirstClass First]] [[Film/XMenDaysOfFuturePast Class]] [[Film/XMenApocalypse trilogy]], where he's upgraded to the HeroProtagonist and becomes a RoundedCharacter.
17th Oct '16 8:51:09 AM siberia82
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* ''Film/XMen'': Played straight with [[XMenFilmSeries/ProfessorCharlesFrancisXavier Professor Charles Xavier]] in [[Film/XMen1 the]] [[Film/X2XMenUnited original]] [[Film/XMenTheLastStand trilogy]], where he's a StaticCharacter who doesn't really get to be more than TheMentor to the X-Men. It's averted with the [[Film/XMenFirstClass First]] [[Film/XMenDaysOfFuturePast Class]] [[Film/XMenApocalypse trilogy]], where he's upgraded to the HeroProtagonist and becomes a RoundedCharacter.

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* ''Film/XMen'': ''Film/XMenFilmSeries'': Played straight with [[XMenFilmSeries/ProfessorCharlesFrancisXavier Professor Charles Xavier]] in [[Film/XMen1 the]] [[Film/X2XMenUnited original]] [[Film/XMenTheLastStand trilogy]], where he's a StaticCharacter who doesn't really get to be more than TheMentor to the X-Men. It's averted with the [[Film/XMenFirstClass First]] [[Film/XMenDaysOfFuturePast Class]] [[Film/XMenApocalypse trilogy]], where he's upgraded to the HeroProtagonist and becomes a RoundedCharacter.
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