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* [[ParksAndRecreation Ron F*cking Swanson]]. Full stop.

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* [[ParksAndRecreation Ron F*cking Swanson]]. Full stop.
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** They do hug in ''Deathly Hallows,'' however, after some intense issues are worked out (including an ImaginaryLoveTriangle with Hermione). J.K. Rowling noted that her American editor (or someone like that) wanted them to hug during a similar but less intense scene in the fourth book, but according to J.K. British men do not show affection that easily.

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** They do hug in ''Deathly Hallows,'' however, after some intense issues are worked out (including an ImaginaryLoveTriangle with Hermione). J.K. Rowling noted that her American editor (or someone like that) wanted them to hug during a similar but less intense scene in the fourth book, but according to J.K. [[TruthInTelevision British men do not show affection that easily.easily]].
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* Zigzagged in spades in ''{{Berserk}}''. The main male characters, Guts and Griffith, can be described as ambitious, ruthless, {{Jerk Ass}}es, [[MenAreUncultured uncultured]] in the case of Guts, and [[CompleteMonster a monster]] in the case of Griffith ([[HeWhoFightsMonsters and almost with Guts]]), but one thing for sure is that they're not afraid to talk about their feelings, especially to one another ([[HoYay making certain implications arise]]). In the case of Guts, he can switch from being [[http://www.mangakong.com/manga/Berserk/037.047/210 a gruff jerk]] to being [[http://www.mangakong.com/manga/Berserk/037.047/211 very tender]] [[http://www.mangakong.com/manga/Berserk/037.047/212 and caring]].
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** Hank is an extreme version of this, unwilling to show any more affection than a handshake to his own mother. It's implied that this is due to emotional abuse from his father. Ironically, his greatest fear is that his father will die without ever telling him that he loved him.

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** Hank is an extreme version of this, unwilling to show any more affection than a handshake to his own mother. It's implied that this is due to emotional abuse from his father. Ironically, his greatest fear is that his father will die without ever telling him that he loved him. [[spoiler:Which was exactly what happened.]]
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"Love? What kind of man tells another man that he ''loves'' him?"

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** Hank is an extreme version of this, unwilling to show any more affection than a handshake to his own mother. It's implied that this is due to emotional abuse from his father.

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** Hank is an extreme version of this, unwilling to show any more affection than a handshake to his own mother. It's implied that this is due to emotional abuse from his father. Ironically, his greatest fear is that his father will die without ever telling him that he loved him.
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"Love? What kind of man tells another man that he ''loves'' him?"
-->--'''Cotton Hill''', ''KingOfTheHill''
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* [[ParksAndRecreation Ron F*cking Swanson]]. Full stop.
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* On TheSimpsons episode "Bart the Genius," Bart is shocked when Homer kisses him.
-->'''Bart''': You kissed me.
-->'''Homer''': Now, now, there's nothing wrong with a father kissing his son. I think.
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* In {{Pippin}} when the title charecter returns home from the university of Padua, he and his fahter almost hug, but wind up shaking hands. Pippin then attempts to talk to him about his feelings of emptiness and quest to find something meaningful, but his father fobs him off with cliches and 'well i've got to go.' By the way, his father is Charlemagne. Yes, THAT one.

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* In {{Pippin}} when the title charecter returns home from the university of Padua, he and his fahter almost hug, but wind up shaking hands. Pippin then attempts to talk to him about his feelings of emptiness and quest to find something meaningful, but his father fobs him off with cliches and 'well i've got to go.' By the way, his father is Charlemagne. Yes, THAT ''that'' one.
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** Hank is an extreme version of this, unwilling to show any more affection than a handshake to his own mother. It's implied that this is due to emotional abuse from his father.
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* In {{ Pippin }} when the title charecter returns home from the university of Padua, he and his fahter almost hug, but wind up shaking hands. Pippin then attempts to talk to him about his feelings of emptiness and quest to find something meaningful, but his father fobs him off with cliches and 'well i've got to go.' By the way, his father is Charlemagne. Yes, THAT one.

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* In {{ Pippin }} {{Pippin}} when the title charecter returns home from the university of Padua, he and his fahter almost hug, but wind up shaking hands. Pippin then attempts to talk to him about his feelings of emptiness and quest to find something meaningful, but his father fobs him off with cliches and 'well i've got to go.' By the way, his father is Charlemagne. Yes, THAT one.
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* In [[Pippin]] when the title charecter returns home from the university of Padua, he and his fahter almost hug, but wind up shaking hands. Pippin then attempts to talk to him about his feelings of emptiness and quest to find something meaningful, but his father fobs him off with cliches and 'well i've got to go.' By the way, his father is Charlemagne. Yes, THAT one.

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* In [[Pippin]] {{ Pippin }} when the title charecter returns home from the university of Padua, he and his fahter almost hug, but wind up shaking hands. Pippin then attempts to talk to him about his feelings of emptiness and quest to find something meaningful, but his father fobs him off with cliches and 'well i've got to go.' By the way, his father is Charlemagne. Yes, THAT one.
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* In [[Pippin]] when the title charecter returns home from the university of Padua, he and his fahter almost hug, but wind up shaking hands. Pippin then attempts to talk to him about his feelings of emptiness and quest to find something meaningful, but his father fobs him off with cliches and 'well i've got to go.' By the way, his father is Charlemagne. Yes, THAT one.
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See also ManHug, AccidentalHug, MenDontCry, RatedMForManly, AllTheGoodMenAreGay.

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See also ManHug, AccidentalHug, MenDontCry, RatedMForManly, AllTheGoodMenAreGay.
AllTheGoodMenAreGay, HoYay.
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* The Father and son talk variant is inverted, brilliantly in an episode of ''{{iCarly}}''. Spencer and Carly are both visibly uncomfortable.

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* The Father and son talk variant is inverted, brilliantly in an episode of ''{{iCarly}}''. Spencer and Carly are both visibly uncomfortable.uncomfortable as Spencer tries to give Carly TheTalk.
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See also ManHug, AccidentalHug, Men Dont Cry, RatedMForManly, AllTheGoodMenAreGay.

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See also ManHug, AccidentalHug, Men Dont Cry, MenDontCry, RatedMForManly, AllTheGoodMenAreGay.

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Another rule is that if a friend around you tries to show emotion or affection in any way, you take it the wrong way.

Also, don't expect teenage boys to be sensitive even with their own fathers. After a personal talk, always expect an awkward silence followed by a throat clearing, and a quick mumble of "I gotta go". You can also expect lots of nervous hand shakes. This is a DoubleStandard, as it implies that men who show affection are weak.

This is a relatively recent trope, and of varying geographical distribution. Until around the eighteenth century, it was expected of "men of sensibility" to show their emotions much more openly (as in The Song Of Roland, in which the heroic French weep and faint away in groups of twenty thousand at a time). Even [=PDAs=] between males were much more common as little as a hundred and fifty years ago, though generally more restrained in Anglophone countries (with their Puritan traditions) than elsewhere. (19th century English diarists record their horror at seeing male Frenchmen and Germans kissing each other on the mouth, though this gesture had been actually more common among all genders in England than elsewhere up to the time of the Civil Wars.)

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Another rule is that if a friend around you tries to show emotion or affection in any way, you take it the wrong way.

Also, don't expect teenage boys to be sensitive even with their own fathers. After a rare personal talk, no matter how short, always expect an awkward silence followed by a throat clearing, and a quick mumble of "I gotta go". go" or "that was a good talk, son". You can also expect lots of nervous hand shakes. shakes, but never a hug, [[ManHug at least not any longer than three seconds]]. This is a ''huge'' DoubleStandard, as it implies that men who show affection are weak.weak, but it is normal for women to be affectionate.

This is a relatively recent trope, and of varying geographical distribution. Until around the eighteenth century, it was expected of "men of sensibility" to show their emotions much more openly (as in The Song Of Roland, in which the heroic French weep and faint away in groups of twenty thousand at a time). Even [=PDAs=] PDA between males were was much more common as little as a hundred and fifty years ago, though generally more restrained in Anglophone countries (with their Puritan traditions) than elsewhere. (19th century English diarists record their horror at seeing male Frenchmen and Germans kissing each other on the mouth, though this gesture had been actually more common among all genders in England than elsewhere up to the time of the Civil Wars.)



See also ManHug, AccidentalHug, [=~Men Don't Cry~=], RatedMForManly, AllTheGoodMenAreGay.

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* Kirk and Spock's complete aversion of this trope in ''StarTrekTheOriginalSeries'' led to the creation of the first {{Slash Fic}}s. Particularly interesting since Vulcans dislike showing emotion in general, so Spock's obvious affection for Kirk effectively breaks two sets of social rules.

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* There is a scene in ''{{Merlin}}'' which fits this trope to a tee: Merlin and Arthur have a Friendship Moment, and Merlin moves to hug Arthur, feeling it was the logical follow-up. Arthur doesn't quite see it that way. After an awkward moment, Arthur rolls his eyes and leaves. Merlin just smiles.

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* There is a scene in ''{{Merlin}}'' ''{{Series/Merlin}}'' which fits this trope to a tee: Merlin and Arthur have a Friendship Moment, and Merlin moves to hug Arthur, feeling it was the logical follow-up. Arthur doesn't quite see it that way. After an awkward moment, Arthur rolls his eyes and leaves. Merlin just smiles.
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* {{Friends}} also averted this with Chandler and Joey who were very close, ''did'' talk about their feelings and often engaged in hugging. There were some HoYay jokes at their expense, but not as many as the fandom might have you think.
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* Averted in {{Disney/Aladdin}}, the (arguably) most important relationship in the film is between Aladdin and Genie, two male characters. They are often shown talking about their feelings and hug multiple times, all while averting the trappings of HoYay, and neither coming off as unmanly.
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* There is a scene in ''{{Merlin}}'' which fits this trope to a tee: Merlin and Arthur have a Friendship Moment, and Merlin moves to hug Arthur, feeling it was the logical follow-up. Arthur doesn't quite see it that way. After an awkward moment, they shake hands.

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* There is a scene in ''{{Merlin}}'' which fits this trope to a tee: Merlin and Arthur have a Friendship Moment, and Merlin moves to hug Arthur, feeling it was the logical follow-up. Arthur doesn't quite see it that way. After an awkward moment, they shake hands.Arthur rolls his eyes and leaves. Merlin just smiles.
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* ''[=~The Emperor's New Groove~=]'' has this at the very end. Kuzco and Pacha finally get the potion, embrace... and then separate, looking rather embarrassed because guys don't do this... see it [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjlVRWynkhM here]], at about 2:50.

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* ''[=~The Emperor's New Groove~=]'' ''TheEmperorsNewGroove'' has this at the very end. Kuzco and Pacha finally get the potion, embrace... and then separate, looking rather embarrassed because guys don't do this... see it [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjlVRWynkhM here]], at about 2:50.
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**They do hug in ''Deathly Hallows,'' however, after some intense issues are worked out (including an ImaginaryLoveTriangle with Hermione). J.K. Rowling noted that her American editor (or someone like that) wanted them to hug during a similar but less intense scene in the fourth book, but according to J.K. British men do not show affection that easily.

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