History Main / RealMenHateAffection

11th Aug '16 9:20:00 AM jayoungr
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This is a relatively recent trope, and of varying geographical distribution. Until around the eighteenth century, it was expected of "men of sensibility"[[labelnote:*]]until some time in the 19th century, "sensibility" meant something rather more like what we would call "sensitivity"[[/labelnote]] to show their emotions much more openly (as in The Song Of Roland, in which the heroic French weep and faint away in groups of twenty thousand at a time). Even PDA between males was much more common as little as a hundred and fifty years ago, though generally more restrained in Anglophone countries (with their Puritan traditions) than elsewhere. (19th century English diarists record their horror at seeing male Frenchmen and Germans kissing each other on the mouth, though this gesture had been actually more common among all genders in England than elsewhere up to the time of the Civil Wars.)

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This is a relatively recent trope, and of varying geographical distribution. Until around the eighteenth century, it was expected of "men of sensibility"[[labelnote:*]]until some time in the 19th century, "sensibility" meant something rather more like what we would call "sensitivity"[[/labelnote]] to show their emotions much more openly (as in The Song Of Roland, Literature/TheSongOfRoland, in which the heroic French weep and faint away in groups of twenty thousand at a time). Even PDA between males was much more common as little as a hundred and fifty years ago, though generally more restrained in Anglophone countries (with their Puritan traditions) than elsewhere. (19th (Nineteenth century English diarists record their horror at seeing male Frenchmen and Germans kissing each other on the mouth, though this gesture had been actually more common among all genders in England than elsewhere up to the time of the Civil Wars.)



See also ManHug, AccidentalHug, MenDontCry, RatedMForManly, AllTheGoodMenAreGay, HoYay.

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See also ManHug, AccidentalHug, MenDontCry, RatedMForManly, SensitiveGuyAndManlyMan, AllTheGoodMenAreGay, HoYay.
7th Aug '16 1:26:30 AM rafi
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* Averted in Disney/{{Aladdin}}, the (arguably) most important relationship in the film is between Aladdin and Genie, two male characters. They are often shown talking about their feelings and hug multiple times, all while averting the trappings of HoYay, and neither coming off as unmanly.


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* In ''WesternAnimation/WereBackADinosaursStory'', Louie believes this at first, as he leaves home because his mother embarrasses him by slobbering kisses all over him, and refuses to kiss or show affection to Cecelia because he's been led to believe that showing any sentimentality is "unmanly."
18th May '16 2:10:04 PM nombretomado
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* One season 1 ''{{CSI NY}}'' ep has the group questioning someone at a 'cuddle party'. Danny makes it clear that he does not cuddle. (although it's quite likely that's changed by now, between Lindsay and Lucy lol)

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* One season 1 ''{{CSI NY}}'' ''Series/{{CSINY}}'' ep has the group questioning someone at a 'cuddle party'. Danny makes it clear that he does not cuddle. (although it's quite likely that's changed by now, between Lindsay and Lucy lol)
3rd Apr '16 10:45:12 AM nombretomado
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* ''{{Friends}}'' also averted this with Chandler and Joey who were very close, ''did'' talk about their feelings and often engaged in hugging. Chandler even lampshades this trope, joking "Do you think we do this too much?" but they rarely let it bother them.

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* ''{{Friends}}'' ''Series/{{Friends}}'' also averted this with Chandler and Joey who were very close, ''did'' talk about their feelings and often engaged in hugging. Chandler even lampshades this trope, joking "Do you think we do this too much?" but they rarely let it bother them.



* In ''That70sShow'', Red and Hyde both hate to express any kind of affection. Hyde actually denies even having feelings.
* Ray in ''EverybodyLovesRaymond.'' In one episode he seems ''incapable'' of understanding his wife's need for affection, almost convinced she does it [[ItsAllAboutMe just to annoy him.]] He even states that [[NoTrueScotsman no man]] enjoys cuddling, they only put up with it to [[AllMenArePerverts get sex.]]
* In ''TheOffice'', Jim [[spoiler: post marriage to Pam]] gets mocked by Dwight for openly showing affection.

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* In ''That70sShow'', ''Series/That70sShow'', Red and Hyde both hate to express any kind of affection. Hyde actually denies even having feelings.
* Ray in ''EverybodyLovesRaymond.''Series/EverybodyLovesRaymond.'' In one episode he seems ''incapable'' of understanding his wife's need for affection, almost convinced she does it [[ItsAllAboutMe just to annoy him.]] He even states that [[NoTrueScotsman no man]] enjoys cuddling, they only put up with it to [[AllMenArePerverts get sex.]]
* In ''TheOffice'', ''Series/TheOfficeUS'':
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Jim [[spoiler: post marriage to Pam]] gets mocked by Dwight for openly showing affection.



* Addressed more than once on ''HomeImprovement'', as it tackles a lot of "man stuff".

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* Addressed more than once on ''HomeImprovement'', ''Series/HomeImprovement'', as it tackles a lot of "man stuff".
19th Mar '16 4:22:17 AM Hossmeister
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5th Mar '16 7:58:51 AM ironballs16
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* This was mockingly invoked by WebVideo/TheNostalgiaCritic and [[WebVideo/FamiliarFaces CR]] when they examined [[WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries Baby Doll]], and see her VillainousBSOD at the end of the episode, bringing them both to the verge of tears... before brushing it off as [[BlatantLies making them want to lift weights]].
16th Jan '16 11:58:06 PM Chabal2
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* A repeated gag in the works of Creator/DaveBarry. Just as men cannot comprehend why women would buy entirely useless gifts for people they met maybe once, so women will never understand that men do not need to talk at length about their feelings even among friends ([[WomenAreWiser since they function at a more basic level]]).
13th Jan '16 5:46:30 AM REV6Pilot
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Also, don't expect teenage boys to be sensitive even with their own fathers. After a rare personal talk, no matter how short, always expect an awkward silence followed by a throat clearing, and a quick mumble of "I gotta go" or "that was a good talk, son". You can also expect lots of nervous hand shakes, but never a hug, [[ManHug at least not any longer than three seconds]]. This is a ''huge'' DoubleStandard, as it implies that men who show affection are weak, but it is normal for women to be affectionate.

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Also, don't expect teenage boys to be sensitive even with their own fathers. After a rare personal talk, no matter how short, always expect an awkward silence followed by a throat clearing, and a quick mumble of "I gotta go" or "that was a good talk, son". You can also expect lots of nervous hand shakes, but never a hug, [[ManHug at least not any longer than three seconds]]. This is a ''huge'' DoubleStandard, as it implies that men who show affection are weak, but it is normal for women to be affectionate.\n


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This is a ''huge'' DoubleStandard, as it implies that men who show affection are weak, but it is normal for women to be affectionate.
21st Dec '15 11:52:16 AM eroock
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-->--'''Cotton Hill'''[[hottip:*:to ''his son'' Hank]], ''WesternAnimation/KingOfTheHill''

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-->--'''Cotton -->-- '''Cotton Hill'''[[hottip:*:to ''his son'' Hank]], ''WesternAnimation/KingOfTheHill''
6th Dec '15 8:40:13 PM N1KF
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See also ManHug, AccidentalHug, MenDontCry, RatedMForManly, AllTheGoodMenAreGay, HoYay. Contrast {{Asexuality}}.

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See also ManHug, AccidentalHug, MenDontCry, RatedMForManly, AllTheGoodMenAreGay, HoYay. Contrast {{Asexuality}}.
HoYay.
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