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21st Jul '17 1:40:11 PM ironballs16
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** Tim isn't afraid of showing some affection himself. One episode is driven by the fact that his son Brad is embarrassed by Tim telling him "I love you" in front of his friends.

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** Tim isn't afraid of showing some affection himself. One episode is driven by the fact that his son Brad is embarrassed by Tim telling him "I love you" [[AmazinglyEmbarrassingParents in front of his friends.friends]].
25th Apr '17 4:39:57 PM Golondrina
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* ''{{Manga/Berserk}}'': Zigzagged in spades. The main male characters, Guts and Griffith, can be described as ambitious, ruthless, {{Jerk Ass}}es, [[MenAreUncultured uncultured]] in the case of Guts, and a monster in the case of Griffith ([[HeWhoFightsMonsters and almost with Guts]]), but one thing for sure is that they're '''not''' afraid to talk about their feelings in very [[WarriorPoet poetic manners]], especially to one another ([[HoYay making certain implications arise]]). In the case of Guts, he can switch from being [[http://www.mangakong.com/manga/Berserk/037.047/210 a gruff jerk]] to being [[http://www.mangakong.com/manga/Berserk/037.047/211 very tender]] [[http://www.mangakong.com/manga/Berserk/037.047/212 and caring]].

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* ''{{Manga/Berserk}}'': ''Manga/{{Berserk}}'': Zigzagged in spades. The main male characters, Guts and Griffith, can be described as ambitious, ruthless, {{Jerk Ass}}es, [[MenAreUncultured uncultured]] in the case of Guts, and a monster in the case of Griffith ([[HeWhoFightsMonsters and almost with Guts]]), but one thing for sure is that they're '''not''' afraid to talk about their feelings in very [[WarriorPoet poetic manners]], especially to one another ([[HoYay making certain implications arise]]). In the case of Guts, he can switch from being [[http://www.mangakong.com/manga/Berserk/037.047/210 a gruff jerk]] to being [[http://www.mangakong.com/manga/Berserk/037.047/211 very tender]] [[http://www.mangakong.com/manga/Berserk/037.047/212 and caring]].



* ''ComicBook/SoncTheComic'': WordOfGod is that Sonic has trouble expressing his feelings. Case in point: when Porker Lewis quit the Freedom Fighters, Sonic's anger at him for doing so was in fact because he desperately wanted him to stay, but simply [[EmotionallyTongueTied couldn't spit it out]].

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* ''ComicBook/SoncTheComic'': ''ComicBook/SonicTheComic'': WordOfGod is that Sonic has trouble expressing his feelings. Case in point: when Porker Lewis quit the Freedom Fighters, Sonic's anger at him for doing so was in fact because he desperately wanted him to stay, but simply [[EmotionallyTongueTied couldn't spit it out]].
10th Apr '17 10:01:43 AM nombretomado
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* In ''ScoobyDooMysteryIncorporated'', a large portion of Freddy's ObliviousToLove status stems from his mistaken belief in this trope and like Hank above, was due to his father, Mayor Jones, [[spoiler: though the Mayor is not really Fred's father, he still raised him as such.]] [[CharacterDevelopment He gets over it,]] though his obliviousness continues to shine in other respects.

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* In ''ScoobyDooMysteryIncorporated'', ''WesternAnimation/ScoobyDooMysteryIncorporated'', a large portion of Freddy's ObliviousToLove status stems from his mistaken belief in this trope and like Hank above, was due to his father, Mayor Jones, [[spoiler: though the Mayor is not really Fred's father, he still raised him as such.]] [[CharacterDevelopment He gets over it,]] though his obliviousness continues to shine in other respects.
27th Mar '17 3:42:42 AM Nintendoman01
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* ''ComicBook/SoncTheComic'': WordOfGod is that Sonic has trouble expressing his feelings. Case in point: when Porker Lewis quit the Freedom Fighters, Sonic's anger at him for doing so was in fact because he desperately wanted him to stay, but simply [[EmotionallyTongueTied couldn't spit it out]].
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* Discussed in ''WesternAnimatio/IceAge3DawnOfTheDinosaurs'':

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* Discussed in ''WesternAnimatio/IceAge3DawnOfTheDinosaurs'':''WesternAnimation/IceAge3DawnOfTheDinosaurs'':
5th Feb '17 8:05:56 PM animenutcase
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* ''Manga/JojosBizarreAdventure'''s third protagonist, Jotaro Kujo falls firmly into this with his being TheStoic. He loves his family and friends, but that doesn't stop him from being incredibly averse to affection (giving or showing). This gets deconstructed in Part 6, however. You know what happens when you keep being an emotional brick wall that doesn't smile, cry or hug your children, even if you love them? Said children grow up to resent you.

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* ''Manga/JojosBizarreAdventure'''s third protagonist, Jotaro Kujo falls firmly into this with his being TheStoic. He loves his family and friends, but that doesn't stop him from being incredibly averse to affection (giving or showing).receiving). This gets deconstructed in Part 6, however. You know what happens when you keep being an emotional brick wall that doesn't smile, cry or hug your children, even if you love them? Said children grow up to resent you.
26th Jan '17 3:53:02 PM Scabbard
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* In ''ScoobyDooMysteryIncorporated'', a large portion of Freddy's ObliviousToLove status stems from his mistaken belief in this trope and like Hank above, was due to his father, Mayor Jones, [[spoiler: though the Mayor is not really Fred's father, he still raised him as such.]][[CharacterDevelopment He gets over it,]] though his obliviousness continues to shine in other respects.

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* In ''ScoobyDooMysteryIncorporated'', a large portion of Freddy's ObliviousToLove status stems from his mistaken belief in this trope and like Hank above, was due to his father, Mayor Jones, [[spoiler: though the Mayor is not really Fred's father, he still raised him as such.]][[CharacterDevelopment ]] [[CharacterDevelopment He gets over it,]] though his obliviousness continues to shine in other respects.
24th Jan '17 9:39:39 PM animenutcase
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* ''Manga/JojosBizarreAdventure'''s third protagonist, Jotaro Kujo falls firmly into this with his being TheStoic. He loves his family and friends, but that doesn't stop him from being incredibly averse to affection (giving or showing). This gets deconstructed in Part 6, however. You know what happens when you keep being an emotional brick wall that doesn't smile, cry or hug your children, even if you love them? Said children grow up to resent you.
11th Jan '17 11:20:49 AM wootzits
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* Zigzagged in spades in ''{{Manga/Berserk}}''. The main male characters, Guts and Griffith, can be described as ambitious, ruthless, {{Jerk Ass}}es, [[MenAreUncultured uncultured]] in the case of Guts, and a monster in the case of Griffith ([[HeWhoFightsMonsters and almost with Guts]]), but one thing for sure is that they're '''not''' afraid to talk about their feelings in very [[WarriorPoet poetic manners]], especially to one another ([[HoYay making certain implications arise]]). In the case of Guts, he can switch from being [[http://www.mangakong.com/manga/Berserk/037.047/210 a gruff jerk]] to being [[http://www.mangakong.com/manga/Berserk/037.047/211 very tender]] [[http://www.mangakong.com/manga/Berserk/037.047/212 and caring]].
* ''Manga/RanmaOneHalf'': Played straight with Ranma and his father, Genma. They never hug or tell each other that they care; they very rarely have personal talks. The thought of getting parental affection from his dad is so weird to Ranma that Genma once used an attack against him that consisted only of an overly affectionate hug, which totally freaked him out. Growing up with the Real Men Hate Affection mindset could explain why he [[HatesBeingTouched doesn't really like being touched]] and seems to only have love/hate relationships with the people he's closest to. (i.e. [[ThreeAmigos Ryoga, Akane,]] etc.)
* Interestingly inverted in ''Manga/DeathNote'', where [[VillainProtagonist Light Yagami]]'s hatred of ''female'' affection cements his status as AmbiguouslyGay. A SerialKiller BadassGay, but gay nonetheless.

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* ''{{Manga/Berserk}}'': Zigzagged in spades in ''{{Manga/Berserk}}''.spades. The main male characters, Guts and Griffith, can be described as ambitious, ruthless, {{Jerk Ass}}es, [[MenAreUncultured uncultured]] in the case of Guts, and a monster in the case of Griffith ([[HeWhoFightsMonsters and almost with Guts]]), but one thing for sure is that they're '''not''' afraid to talk about their feelings in very [[WarriorPoet poetic manners]], especially to one another ([[HoYay making certain implications arise]]). In the case of Guts, he can switch from being [[http://www.mangakong.com/manga/Berserk/037.047/210 a gruff jerk]] to being [[http://www.mangakong.com/manga/Berserk/037.047/211 very tender]] [[http://www.mangakong.com/manga/Berserk/037.047/212 and caring]].
* ''Manga/RanmaOneHalf'': Played straight with Ranma and his father, Genma. They never hug or tell each other that they care; they very rarely have personal talks. The thought of getting parental affection from his dad is so weird to Ranma that Genma once used an attack against him that consisted only of an overly affectionate hug, which totally freaked him out. Growing up with the Real Men Hate Affection mindset could explain why he [[HatesBeingTouched doesn't really like being touched]] and seems to only have love/hate relationships with the people he's closest to. (i.e. [[ThreeAmigos Ryoga, Akane,]] etc.)
* Interestingly inverted in ''Manga/DeathNote'', where [[VillainProtagonist Light Yagami]]'s hatred of ''female'' affection cements his status as AmbiguouslyGay. A SerialKiller BadassGay, but gay nonetheless.
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* ''Manga/DeathNote'': Interestingly inverted, where [[VillainProtagonist Light Yagami]]'s hatred of ''female'' affection cements his status as AmbiguouslyGay. A SerialKiller BadassGay, but gay nonetheless.
* ''Manga/RanmaOneHalf'': Played straight with Ranma and his father, Genma. They never hug or tell each other that they care; they very rarely have personal talks. The thought of getting parental affection from his dad is so weird to Ranma that Genma once used an attack against him that consisted only of an overly affectionate hug, which totally freaked him out. Growing up with the Real Men Hate Affection mindset could explain why he [[HatesBeingTouched doesn't really like being touched]] and seems to only have love/hate relationships with the people he's closest to. (i.e. [[ThreeAmigos Ryoga, Akane,]] etc.)



* In ''Film/TheHotChick'', the eponymous hot chick's boyfriend describes his feelings for her to a friend, expecting a similar confession from the friend, who calls him [[YouFailLogicForever gay]].

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* In ''Film/TheHotChick'', The two ''Film/BillAndTed'' movies both have moments where the eponymous hot chick's boyfriend describes his feelings for her boys respond to a friend, expecting a similar confession from display of male affection with "Fag!" In the friend, who calls him [[YouFailLogicForever gay]].first, it follows a ManHug between the boys when it turned out that Ted wasn't killed by an evil knight. In the second, the boys say it to their evil robot duplicates to try and stave off death; the robots deliver the line, then [[DisneyDeath throw them off]] KirksRock anyway.



-->Actually, pursuing a woman you have heterosexual feelings for... not gay.
* The two ''Film/BillAndTed'' movies both have moments where the boys respond to a display of male affection with "Fag!" In the first, it follows a ManHug between the boys when it turned out that Ted wasn't killed by an evil knight. In the second, the boys say it to their evil robot duplicates to try and stave off death; the robots deliver the line, then [[DisneyDeath throw them off]] KirksRock anyway.



* In ''Film/TheHotChick'', the eponymous hot chick's boyfriend describes his feelings for her to a friend, expecting a similar confession from the friend, who calls him [[YouFailLogicForever gay]].
-->Actually, pursuing a woman you have heterosexual feelings for... not gay.



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* Inverted in ''Literature/ABrothersPrice''; Eldest Whistler explains to Jerin that she doesn't blame him for being too trusting, as that's how boys are brought up - she notes that his little brother would allow himself to be hugged by a stranger, while the girls would check for weapons, first. Due to male GenderRarityValue, boys are sheltered and cuddled and spoiled, which makes them much more prone to displays of affection than the girls (who are brought up to be able to defend themselves and their brothers).
* In ''Literature/{{Hurog}}'', Ward has an emotional scene with his brother Tosten, and lampshades this trope by pointing out that, thanks to his father (who was an affection-hating real man) he still isn't able to properly show affection to his brother. Averted in other parts of the series, he's very affectionate towards his sister, Ciarra, and occasionally shows his caring side when Oreg is having one of his PTSD-moments.

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* Inverted in ''Literature/ABrothersPrice''; Eldest Whistler explains to Jerin that she doesn't blame him for being too trusting, as that's how boys are brought up - she notes that his little brother would allow himself to be hugged by a stranger, while the girls would check for weapons, first. Due to male GenderRarityValue, boys are sheltered and cuddled and spoiled, which makes them much more prone to displays of affection than the girls (who are brought up to be able to defend themselves and their brothers). \n* In ''Literature/{{Hurog}}'', Ward has an emotional scene with his brother Tosten, and lampshades this trope by pointing out that, thanks to his father (who was an affection-hating real man) he still isn't able to properly show affection to his brother. Averted in other parts of the series, he's very affectionate towards his sister, Ciarra, and occasionally shows his caring side when Oreg is having one of his PTSD-moments.



* In ''Literature/{{Hurog}}'', Ward has an emotional scene with his brother Tosten, and lampshades this trope by pointing out that, thanks to his father (who was an affection-hating real man) he still isn't able to properly show affection to his brother. Averted in other parts of the series, he's very affectionate towards his sister, Ciarra, and occasionally shows his caring side when Oreg is having one of his PTSD-moments.






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* PlayedForLaughs in ''Webcomic/BusterWildeWeerwolf'' when [[http://www.furnation.com/BusterWilde/comics/buster022.gif Hector is slightly disgusted]] by Buster and Gordon's over-the-top reconcilation after Gordon slapped Buster.
* Dave and Dirk Strider in ''WebComic/{{Homestuck}}'' both attempt to maintain their "cool stoic badass" personas by avoiding any open demonstrations of affection. When Dave finally gives in to his emotions and hugs Dirk, he apologizes repeatedly and calls it "fucked up" (Dirk agrees that it's fucked up, but hugs him back anyway).



* Dave and Dirk Strider in ''WebComic/{{Homestuck}}'' both attempt to maintain their "cool stoic badass" personas by avoiding any open demonstrations of affection. When Dave finally gives in to his emotions and hugs Dirk, he apologizes repeatedly and calls it "fucked up" (Dirk agrees that it's fucked up, but hugs him back anyway).
* PlayedForLaughs in ''Webcomic/BusterWildeWeerwolf'' when [[http://www.furnation.com/BusterWilde/comics/buster022.gif Hector is slightly disgusted]] by Buster and Gordon's over-the-top reconcilation after Gordon slapped Buster.



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* On TheSimpsons episode "Bart the Genius," Bart is shocked when Homer kisses him.

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* On TheSimpsons episode ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'': In "Bart the Genius," Genius", Bart is shocked when Homer kisses him.






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26th Dec '16 10:35:57 AM Nintendoman01
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* ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyX'': Jecht, Tidus' [[AbusiveParents emotionally abusive father]], truly ''did'' love his son, but was merely bad at showing it. At one point, the party can find a [[CaptainsLog sphere]] Jecht left behind in which he tries to give a sentimental message to Tidus, but ultimately gives up:
-->'''Jecht''': Remember, you're my son. And... well, uh... never mind. I'm no good at these things.
6th Nov '16 12:24:48 PM Sheady16
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* ''Series/ICarly'': The Father and son talk variant is inverted in an episode. Spencer and Carly are both visibly uncomfortable as Spencer tries to give Carly TheTalk.

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* ''Series/ICarly'': The Father and son talk variant is inverted in an episode. Spencer and his younger sister Carly are both visibly uncomfortable as Spencer tries to give Carly TheTalk.



* ''Series/MyNameIsEarl'': Earl and Randy, despite being unusually close to each other, are embarrassed by the thought of saying "I love you" to each other.

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* ''Series/MyNameIsEarl'': Brothers Earl and Randy, despite being unusually close to each other, are embarrassed by the thought of saying "I love you" to each other.
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