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24th Aug '16 6:04:41 AM TheHeroHartmut
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* The Iop race from ''WesternAnimation/Wakfu'' has a rather scrap-happy culture, to the point that even the deity for which their race was named liked duking out matters on the mortal plane so much that it decided to stay there as a [[PhysicalGod physical incarnation]] [[spoiler:who, as it turns out, was Sadlygrove all along]]. The Iops are often derided by other races for being of limited intellect, and they tend to be delighted to find themselves in fights of even suicidal odds. Adding to this, the fact that Sadlygrove [[spoiler:proposed to Eva with a set of engagement ''knuckledusters'']] seems to place another layer of cultural significance to the Iop's boisterousness.
21st Aug '16 6:14:30 PM thatmadork
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** Most of Westerosi society at its core, and a lot of the DeliberateValuesDissonance comes from their pride as warriors above all else. Women, scholars, artists, and merchants, people who are valued and respected in modern times, are generally disdained because they aren't expected to be warlike, or their trades aren't directly connected to warcraft, [[KlingonScientistsGetNoRespect despite the invaluable service they can and do provide to others and society as a whole]]. Being a Proud Warrior Race also entails a very flippant attitude to war itself, as wars are started over land, wounded pride, and broken marriage contracts, with few of the instigators ever pondering on the human costs involved.
13th Aug '16 2:50:18 PM KEEP_IN
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"Proud", in this case, often means "Psychotically Violent". Critiques of this position will be met with: "[[MySpeciesDothProtestTooMuch You do]] ''[[MySpeciesDothProtestTooMuch not]]'' [[MySpeciesDothProtestTooMuch understand]]". May occasionally overlap with the AlwaysChaoticEvil race, though the two are usually differentiated by the Proud Warrior having a strict Code of Honor (which may include [[DebtDetester paying debts]], [[UndyingLoyalty loyalty to companions and officers]], and [[LetsFightLikeGentlemen fighting with honor]]), while the ChaoticEvil race has no real rules and does cowardly or underhanded things. If the Code of Honor is [[BlueAndOrangeMorality too alien for humans to understand]], or [[OfThePeople too xenophobic to allow cooperation]], then the heroes will treat the two groups as the same. The better sort of Code of Honor will enforce WouldNotShootACivilian, although often because civilians are dismissed as too weak and cowardly to be good fighters, and so they get passed over in the search for worthy enemies.

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"Proud", in this case, often means "Psychotically "Psychopathically Violent". Critiques of this position will be met with: "[[MySpeciesDothProtestTooMuch You do]] ''[[MySpeciesDothProtestTooMuch not]]'' [[MySpeciesDothProtestTooMuch understand]]". May occasionally overlap with the AlwaysChaoticEvil race, though the two are usually differentiated by the Proud Warrior having a strict Code of Honor (which may include [[DebtDetester paying debts]], [[UndyingLoyalty loyalty to companions and officers]], and [[LetsFightLikeGentlemen fighting with honor]]), while the ChaoticEvil race has no real rules and does cowardly or underhanded things. If the Code of Honor is [[BlueAndOrangeMorality too alien for humans to understand]], or [[OfThePeople too xenophobic to allow cooperation]], then the heroes will treat the two groups as the same. The better sort of Code of Honor will enforce WouldNotShootACivilian, although often because civilians are dismissed as too weak and cowardly to be good fighters, and so they get passed over in the search for worthy enemies.
12th Aug '16 8:04:39 PM nombretomado
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* ''{{Albion}}'' has the Kenget Kamulos, an underground-living people that are one branch of the descendants of Celtic humans who mysteriously migrated to another planet long ago. Bordering on [[AlwaysChaoticEvil Always]] [[LawfulEvil Lawful]] [[AlwaysChaoticEvil Evil]], they live in a society entirely dedicated to their god of war, Kamulos, and go on about how warriors are superior to everyone else (especially to women and nonhumans) and, in an interesting twist, how those warriors who need weapons are inferior to those who don't (wizards).

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* ''{{Albion}}'' ''VideoGame/{{Albion}}'' has the Kenget Kamulos, an underground-living people that are one branch of the descendants of Celtic humans who mysteriously migrated to another planet long ago. Bordering on [[AlwaysChaoticEvil Always]] [[LawfulEvil Lawful]] [[AlwaysChaoticEvil Evil]], they live in a society entirely dedicated to their god of war, Kamulos, and go on about how warriors are superior to everyone else (especially to women and nonhumans) and, in an interesting twist, how those warriors who need weapons are inferior to those who don't (wizards).
8th Aug '16 10:38:57 PM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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** As shown in ''VideoGame/Halo5Guardians'' and related media, the Elites of the Arbiter's Swords of Sanghelios are starting to move away from this; they're still quite proud, but many of them are more earnestly pursuing non-warrior pursuits. The Arbiter is even trying to get rid of his people's disdain towards doctors.

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** *** As shown in ''VideoGame/Halo5Guardians'' and related media, the Elites of the Arbiter's Swords of Sanghelios are starting to move away from this; they're still quite proud, but many of them are more earnestly pursuing non-warrior pursuits. The Arbiter is even trying to get rid of his people's disdain towards doctors.
8th Aug '16 10:38:35 PM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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** The Sangheili/Elites play up the "Proud" aspects of this trope. The book ''The Cole Protocol'' plays this up to extremes. Think of imperial Japan on crack. Mind you, the viewpoint character is the equivalent of a shogun, so the ruling classes may just be [[AlwaysChaoticEvil Always Chaotic]] JerkAss.
** Also the Jiralhanae/Brutes, for the "psycho klingon" side of this trope. Think the Turian/Krogan side presented in the ''Franchise/MassEffect'' entry.
** How proud are the Elites you say? Many of them die because they ran out of ammo and refused to use a human weapon, even if it was better than what they had...[[HonorBeforeReason so instead, they just rushed the human front.]]
** In ''Halo: Glasslands'', this trope is {{Deconstructed}}. Now that the Covenant has fallen and the Elites don't have the Prophets to rule them and the Engineers to build/fix stuff for them, their society is having to do some serious reorganization as they try to remember how to self-govern and have a self-sufficient military. It's implied that something similar is happening to the Brutes, who are not dealing with it nearly as well. As said by the main Sangheili character, Jul, "It's easier to vaporize a planet from orbit than to build a society from scratch". Another commented that "You can't expect warriors to stop fighting", in regards to a rebellion they're organizing. Jul also struggles with the whole underhandedness of the rebellion, as it involves lying and treachery when he'd rather run screaming at something with his sword.
** The super-soldier Spartan can also be an example. With many of them being respected by even the supremest-of all supreme commanders. They are not listed as Killed In Action, but only Wounded In Action or Missing In Action to boost morale. People then think they're invincible. But they don't consider themselves as "proud".
** The Sangheili sense of honor is a little skewed, by human standards. While most warrior cultures view battle scars as badges of honor, the Sangheili view them as symbols of ''shame''. Being wounded by an enemy is considered to be dishonorable. A true warrior is able to walk out of a battle without any wounds whatsoever. The scientific name for the Sangheili is given as "Macto Cognatus", which means "I glorify my kin" in Latin.

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** The Sangheili/Elites play up the "Proud" aspects of this trope. The Heck, the scientific name for the Sangheili is given as "Macto Cognatus", which means "I glorify my kin" in Latin. In particular, their portrayal in the book ''The Cole Protocol'' plays ''Literature/HaloTheColtProtocol'' takes this up to extremes. Think extremes; think of imperial Imperial Japan on crack. Mind you, crack.
*** How proud are
the viewpoint character is Elites you say? Many of them die because they ran out of ammo and refused to use a human weapon, even if it was better than what they had...[[HonorBeforeReason so instead, they just rushed the equivalent human front.]]
*** The Sangheili sense of honor is a little skewed, by human standards. While most warrior cultures view battle scars as badges of honor, the Sangheili view them as symbols of ''shame''. Being wounded by an enemy is considered to be dishonorable. A true warrior is able to walk out
of a shogun, so battle without any wounds whatsoever. Sangheili also believe that blood should ''only'' be shed in proper combat; as a result, they tend to really hate doctors.
** As shown in ''VideoGame/Halo5Guardians'' and related media,
the ruling classes may just be [[AlwaysChaoticEvil Always Chaotic]] JerkAss.
Elites of the Arbiter's Swords of Sanghelios are starting to move away from this; they're still quite proud, but many of them are more earnestly pursuing non-warrior pursuits. The Arbiter is even trying to get rid of his people's disdain towards doctors.
** Also the Jiralhanae/Brutes, for the "psycho klingon" side of this trope.trope; they're very much a "might makes right" race who take joy in literally eating their enemies. Think the Turian/Krogan side presented in the ''Franchise/MassEffect'' entry.
** How proud are the Elites you say? Many of them die because they ran out of ammo and refused to use a human weapon, even if it was better than what they had...[[HonorBeforeReason so instead, they just rushed the human front.]]
** In ''Halo: Glasslands'', post-''VideoGame/{{Halo 3}}'' media like ''Literature/HaloGlasslands'', this trope is {{Deconstructed}}. Now that the Covenant has fallen and the Elites don't have the Prophets to rule them and the Engineers to build/fix stuff for them, their society is having to do some serious reorganization as they try to remember how to self-govern and have a self-sufficient military. It's implied that something similar is happening to the Brutes, who many of whom are not having an even harder time dealing with it nearly as well. it. As said by the ''Glasslands''[='s=] main Sangheili character, Jul, character Jul 'Mdama, "It's easier to vaporize a planet from orbit than to build a society from scratch". Another commented comments that "You can't expect warriors to stop fighting", in regards to a rebellion they're organizing. Jul also struggles with the whole underhandedness of the rebellion, as it involves lying and treachery when he'd rather run screaming at something with his sword.
** The super-soldier Spartan can also be an example. With many of them being respected by even the supremest-of all supreme commanders. They are not listed as Killed In Action, but only Wounded In Action or Missing In Action to boost morale. People then think they're invincible. But they don't consider themselves as "proud".
** The Sangheili sense of honor is a little skewed, by human standards. While most warrior cultures view battle scars as badges of honor,
sword. As hinted above, the Sangheili view them as symbols of ''shame''. Being wounded by an enemy is considered to be dishonorable. A true warrior is do adapt pretty quickly; many factions are now able to walk out of design their own technology, and Jul himself becomes by ''VideoGame/{{Halo 4}}'' a battle without any wounds whatsoever. The scientific name for the Sangheili is given as "Macto Cognatus", which means "I glorify my kin" in Latin.ruthless pragmatist more than willing to resort to "dishonorable" means.
6th Aug '16 3:13:49 PM nombretomado
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* The Khunds are basically the [[DCUniverse DCU's]] [[StarTrek Klingons.]]

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* The Khunds are basically the [[DCUniverse DCU's]] Franchise/TheDCU's [[StarTrek Klingons.]]
27th Jul '16 6:11:52 PM nombretomado
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* CyranoDeBergerac presents TruthInTelevision: for centuries, the Gascons have had this reputation among the French, and at the TheCavalierYears they were {{Impoverished Patrician}}s that sought battle and bloodshed because his culture teaches that [[MartyrdomCulture dying in battle is the greatest source of personal honor]] and {{glory|Seeker}}. In the play, all the cadets are Gascons, all of them are poor (except [[NoTrueScotsman De Guiche]]) because they don't plan for the future (they are going to die young), and very "proud" in the usual sense ("psychotically violent"). This trope is ''deconstructed'' because the very traits that make the Gascons ''great warriors'' make them ''poor soldiers'': they don't approve of the use of spies or subterfuges in war, and they don’t want to learn such things like how to use a cannon because they prefer the sword. In literature, authors like Creator/AlexandreDumas (''Literature/TheThreeMusketeers'') and Cervantes (''Literature/DonQuixote'') have recognized Gascuña as home of great warriors… or if you wish, Heroic Sociopaths. This [[http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://www.archive.org/stream/cu31924028418501/cu31924028418501_djvu.txt article in English (A cadet of Gascony)]]. [[http://infokrisis.blogia.com/2006/053001-cyrano-de-bergerac-y-la-tradicion-heroica-de-los-mosqueteros.php and this other in Spanish (Los mosqueteros como herederos de Esparta)]] Cyrano himself, however, is a literal WarriorPoet.

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\n* CyranoDeBergerac ''Theatre/CyranoDeBergerac'' presents TruthInTelevision: for centuries, the Gascons have had this reputation among the French, and at the TheCavalierYears they were {{Impoverished Patrician}}s that sought battle and bloodshed because his culture teaches that [[MartyrdomCulture dying in battle is the greatest source of personal honor]] and {{glory|Seeker}}. In the play, all the cadets are Gascons, all of them are poor (except [[NoTrueScotsman De Guiche]]) because they don't plan for the future (they are going to die young), and very "proud" in the usual sense ("psychotically violent"). This trope is ''deconstructed'' because the very traits that make the Gascons ''great warriors'' make them ''poor soldiers'': they don't approve of the use of spies or subterfuges in war, and they don’t want to learn such things like how to use a cannon because they prefer the sword. In literature, authors like Creator/AlexandreDumas (''Literature/TheThreeMusketeers'') and Cervantes (''Literature/DonQuixote'') have recognized Gascuña as home of great warriors… or if you wish, Heroic Sociopaths. This [[http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://www.archive.org/stream/cu31924028418501/cu31924028418501_djvu.txt article in English (A cadet of Gascony)]]. [[http://infokrisis.blogia.com/2006/053001-cyrano-de-bergerac-y-la-tradicion-heroica-de-los-mosqueteros.php and this other in Spanish (Los mosqueteros como herederos de Esparta)]] Cyrano himself, however, is a literal WarriorPoet.
20th Jul '16 8:17:01 AM DaibhidC
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** The [SdrawkcabName scro]] in ''TabletopGame/{{Spelljammer}}'' are advanced orcs who have developed a regimented military culture. The giff have a fondness for military pomp and powerful explosives that dramatically increases both the absurdity and the danger of a seven-foot humanoid hippo.

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** The [SdrawkcabName [[SdrawkcabName scro]] in ''TabletopGame/{{Spelljammer}}'' are advanced orcs who have developed a regimented military culture. The giff have a fondness for military pomp and powerful explosives that dramatically increases both the absurdity and the danger of a seven-foot humanoid hippo.
20th Jul '16 8:16:38 AM DaibhidC
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** The elves of the Valaes Tairn in {{Eberron}} are essentially what happens when [[Franchise/StarTrek Klingons]], [[FantasyCounterpartCulture Mongols]], and [[VietnamWar the Vietcong]] are given a scimitar and let rip. The literal worst insult in their culture is accusing someone of disgracing the blood of his ancestors - and if you say this to one, ''he will gleefully cut you in half''.

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** The elves of the Valaes Tairn in {{Eberron}} TabletopGame/{{Eberron}} are essentially what happens when [[Franchise/StarTrek Klingons]], [[FantasyCounterpartCulture Mongols]], and [[VietnamWar the Vietcong]] are given a scimitar and let rip. The literal worst insult in their culture is accusing someone of disgracing the blood of his ancestors - and if you say this to one, ''he will gleefully cut you in half''.


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** The [SdrawkcabName scro]] in ''TabletopGame/{{Spelljammer}}'' are advanced orcs who have developed a regimented military culture. The giff have a fondness for military pomp and powerful explosives that dramatically increases both the absurdity and the danger of a seven-foot humanoid hippo.
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