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20th Jan '17 3:58:43 PM SimiOfDoom
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* The Teblor from ''Literature/MalazanBookOfTheFallen'' are a ProudWarriorRace, and Karsa starts as one of the proudest. Even as he moves away from their customs, he doesn't lose his relish for combat, though he is not averse to learning from other people and cultures as time goes on.

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The Teblor from ''Literature/MalazanBookOfTheFallen'' are a ProudWarriorRace, and Karsa starts as one of the proudest. Even as he moves away from their customs, he doesn't lose his relish for combat, though he is not averse to learning from other people and cultures as time goes on.on.
** The Seguleh challenge everyone who they perceive to be a strong fighter. To rise in their society they have to challenge people who are stronger than them. If they win, they will then take that person's place. Indivitual rank is indicated by the number of marks on their masks; the fewer marks, the higher the rank.
14th Jan '17 9:56:40 PM Prometheus117
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** The Sangheili/Elites play up the "Proud" aspects of this trope. Heck, the scientific name for the Sangheili is given as "Macto Cognatus", which means "I glorify my kin" in Latin. In particular, their portrayal in the book ''Literature/HaloTheColtProtocol'' takes this to extremes; think of Imperial Japan on crack.

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** The Sangheili/Elites play up the "Proud" aspects of this trope. Heck, the scientific name for the Sangheili is given as "Macto Cognatus", which means "I glorify my kin" in Latin. In particular, their portrayal in the book ''Literature/HaloTheColtProtocol'' ''Literature/HaloTheColeProtocol'' takes this to extremes; think of Imperial Japan on crack.
14th Jan '17 10:57:19 AM SimiOfDoom
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* The Teblor from ''Literature/MalazanBookOfTheFallen'' are a ProudWarriorRace, and Karsa starts as one of the proudest. Even as he moves away from their customs, he doesn't lose his relish for combat, though he is not averse to learning from other people and cultures as time goes on.
10th Jan '17 6:32:56 PM zarpaulus
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** The Religious caste started the war, but [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone when they had second thoughts]], the Warrior Caste enthusiastically kept it going.
** The Grey Council had just had their leader, as well as who knows how many others, killed in a particularly brutal example of culture shock. It's pretty clear that nobody was thinking clearly at the moment. It makes sense that the hidebound Grey Council would fall back on what they normally do to solve dilemmas.
** Living in the same universe with Centauri, Narn, and now Humans (who have a [[HumansAreWarriors rather interesting history]] to say the least) let alone [[UltimateEvil the Shadows]] is not a thing that tends to make for amiable personality traits. If your mother had told you that the Evil Dark Crab Monsters would get you if you weren't good, what would you be like?
** The Minbari Warrior Caste seemed to act in a [[HeadInTheSandManagement rather wussy]] manner during the Shadow War and let the Religious Caste do their fighting for them.
** Though not considered canon, [[FanWank many B5 fans think the Warrior Caste, like the Clarke Administration and Emperor Cartagia's government, had been infiltrated and influenced by the Shadows]]. Even if this wasn't the case, long-standing tensions between the two castes, exacerbated by the Grey Council's controversial decision to end the war with Earth without telling the warrior caste why they were ordered to surrender at the eve of victory, go a long way toward explaining the Warrior Caste's behavior during the Shadow crisis: they felt betrayed and manipulated by the Religious Caste, and weren't about to let the same thing happen again. Instead, they focused on trying to wrestle political power away from the Religious Caste, and started a Minbari civil war in the process.
* The Narn are this, though mostly by necessity. It's mentioned in-series that before the Centauri occupied Narn, the Narn were a deeply spiritual agrarian people with some Proud Warrior traits, but that the occupation brought the Proud Warrior part of Narn culture to prominence at the expense of all others.

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** *** The Religious caste started the war, but [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone when they had second thoughts]], the Warrior Caste enthusiastically kept it going.
** *** The Grey Council had just had their leader, as well as who knows how many others, killed in a particularly brutal example of culture shock. It's pretty clear that nobody was thinking clearly at the moment. It makes sense that the hidebound Grey Council would fall back on what they normally do to solve dilemmas.
** *** Living in the same universe with Centauri, Narn, and now Humans (who have a [[HumansAreWarriors rather interesting history]] to say the least) let alone [[UltimateEvil the Shadows]] is not a thing that tends to make for amiable personality traits. If your mother had told you that the Evil Dark Crab Monsters would get you if you weren't good, what would you be like?
** *** The Minbari Warrior Caste seemed to act in a [[HeadInTheSandManagement rather wussy]] manner during the Shadow War and let the Religious Caste do their fighting for them.
** *** Though not considered canon, [[FanWank many B5 fans think the Warrior Caste, like the Clarke Administration and Emperor Cartagia's government, had been infiltrated and influenced by the Shadows]]. Even if this wasn't the case, long-standing tensions between the two castes, exacerbated by the Grey Council's controversial decision to end the war with Earth without telling the warrior caste why they were ordered to surrender at the eve of victory, go a long way toward explaining the Warrior Caste's behavior during the Shadow crisis: they felt betrayed and manipulated by the Religious Caste, and weren't about to let the same thing happen again. Instead, they focused on trying to wrestle political power away from the Religious Caste, and started a Minbari civil war in the process.
* ** The Narn are this, though mostly by necessity. It's mentioned in-series that before the Centauri occupied Narn, the Narn were a deeply spiritual agrarian people with some Proud Warrior traits, but that the occupation brought the Proud Warrior part of Narn culture to prominence at the expense of all others.
2nd Jan '17 6:08:21 AM Morgenthaler
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** Drizzt himself is basically a Proud Warrior Race Guy, having grown up for around 30 years in an underground city full of vicious assassins who are trained from birth in the most efficient, vicious ways of killing living things. His homeland is, in essence, a gigantic, sadistic special forces unit (his race possess remarkable prowess in the areas of stealth and unit tactics, while at the same time possessing a huge superiority complex over all other living creatures including each other and having a vicious sadistic streak, making them more Arrogant Warrior Race Guys). It sounds like he's even more noble and sacrifice-loving than any Proud Warrior Race Guy ever, but he possesses a remarkable survival instinct and is portrayed as too BadAss to actually die, even when he tries self-sacrifice. [[spoiler: He does die once, in a duel to the death against his archenemy, but only for one page, not counting the year between the end of the book he dies in and the very first page of the next.]] Then we get into the Arrogant Assassin Race Guys issue, which is quite different. The drow are an example of why AlwaysChaoticEvil doesn't make for good proud warrior races - they have no concept of honour, often even no interest in a good fight, just getting ahead at everyone else's expense at minimum cost. The way Drizzt demonstrates he's (to a small extent) learnt to think like a drow during his training is when he challenges his last remaining opponent in a free-for-all between students to an open, honourable single combat, which he knows he can win - only to have the other step in a trap he has set up, by which Drizzt proves he wouldn't do anything so stupid as to issue an honourable challenge anymore.

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** Drizzt himself is basically a Proud Warrior Race Guy, having grown up for around 30 years in an underground city full of vicious assassins who are trained from birth in the most efficient, vicious ways of killing living things. His homeland is, in essence, a gigantic, sadistic special forces unit (his race possess remarkable prowess in the areas of stealth and unit tactics, while at the same time possessing a huge superiority complex over all other living creatures including each other and having a vicious sadistic streak, making them more Arrogant Warrior Race Guys). It sounds like he's even more noble and sacrifice-loving than any Proud Warrior Race Guy ever, but he possesses a remarkable survival instinct and is portrayed as too BadAss badass to actually die, even when he tries self-sacrifice. [[spoiler: He does die once, in a duel to the death against his archenemy, but only for one page, not counting the year between the end of the book he dies in and the very first page of the next.]] Then we get into the Arrogant Assassin Race Guys issue, which is quite different. The drow are an example of why AlwaysChaoticEvil doesn't make for good proud warrior races - they have no concept of honour, often even no interest in a good fight, just getting ahead at everyone else's expense at minimum cost. The way Drizzt demonstrates he's (to a small extent) learnt to think like a drow during his training is when he challenges his last remaining opponent in a free-for-all between students to an open, honourable single combat, which he knows he can win - only to have the other step in a trap he has set up, by which Drizzt proves he wouldn't do anything so stupid as to issue an honourable challenge anymore.
29th Dec '16 1:22:08 AM Tron80
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* Franchise/WonderWoman is a Themysciran warrior. She gets confronted by the alien Khunds in one comic, and promptly defeats them.
-->'''Kharhi:''' I ask, why do you imagine we would attack you, you in particular, with such a large and mighty force?\\

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* Franchise/WonderWoman Franchise/WonderWoman:
** The titular heroine
is a Themysciran warrior. She gets confronted by the alien Khunds in one comic, and promptly defeats them.
-->'''Kharhi:''' --->'''Kharhi:''' I ask, why do you imagine we would attack you, you in particular, with such a large and mighty force?\\


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** In ''Comicbook/{{Supergirl}}'' story ''Comicbook/TheSupergirlFromKrypton'', when the troops of Darkseid raid Themyscira, the Amazons are eager to engage them.
27th Dec '16 6:59:15 AM Scorntex
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* ''ComicBook/BeastWarsUprising:'' Preditron, the first Predacon, who even wrote up a manifesto for how Predacons were supposed to behave. It follows a lot of the behaviour established by Dinobot of ''WesternAnimation/BeastWars'' fame. Most modern-day Predacons don't follow it, for a variety of reasons.
26th Dec '16 5:52:52 PM PaulA
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* ''ComicStrip/FlashGordon'': Pretty nearly every race on Mongo would qualify. Lion Men, Hawkmen, Arborians, etc. In the [[WesternAnimation/FlashGordon Filmation TV series]], Flash is quick to point out that the only reason Ming can get away with tyrannizing the planet is that all the races are at each others' throats instead of uniting against him. Flash works very hard to help fix that.

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* ''ComicStrip/FlashGordon'': Pretty nearly every race on Mongo would qualify. Lion Men, Hawkmen, Arborians, etc. In the [[WesternAnimation/FlashGordon [[WesternAnimation/FlashGordon1979 Filmation TV series]], Flash is quick to point out that the only reason Ming can get away with tyrannizing the planet is that all the races are at each others' throats instead of uniting against him. Flash works very hard to help fix that.
19th Dec '16 1:31:30 PM Yukianesa
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*** Interestingly despite being the usual candidates, the Orcs of ''Eberron'' are actually an {{Aver|tedTrope}}sion, being peaceful and reclusive humanoids with a {{druid}}ic religion.
13th Dec '16 12:10:53 AM Tron80
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* In Franchise/{{Superman}}/Comicbook/{{Supergirl}} story ''Comicbook/WarWorld'', the Warzoons are an alien race to who fight and conquest is "as important as breathing". They build Warworld, a ''huge'' weapon satellite.
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