History Main / PingPongNaivete

23rd Feb '18 2:28:41 PM AmuckCricetine
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** His naivité to Earth pop-culture in general, as well. In his earlier incarnations, he was definitely a FishOutOfWater, so that's fine. But now he's on his Eleventh incarnation, fanboys over famous human artists, and has made references to everything from ''Franchise/{{Ghostbusters}}'' to ''Disney/TheLionKing''. Which makes you wonder ''how'' he forgot what football/soccer was.

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** His naivité to Earth pop-culture in general, as well. In his earlier incarnations, he was definitely a FishOutOfWater, so that's fine. But now he's on his Eleventh incarnation, come the modern series, he fanboys over famous human artists, and has made references to everything from ''Franchise/{{Ghostbusters}}'' to ''Disney/TheLionKing''. Which makes you wonder ''how'' he forgot what football/soccer was.
17th Feb '18 4:02:29 PM AmuckCricetine
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* The Doctor from ''Series/DoctorWho'', as a character trait. Even the Tenth Doctor, considerably more sexually/romantically inclined than most of them, had moments of being ObliviousToLove (sharing the bed with Martha in "The Shakespeare Code," being offered a phone number in "Partners in Crime").

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* The Doctor from ''Series/DoctorWho'', as a character trait. Even the Tenth Doctor, considerably more sexually/romantically inclined than most of them, had moments of being ObliviousToLove (sharing the bed with Martha in "The "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS29E2TheShakespeareCode The Shakespeare Code," Code]]", being offered a phone number in "Partners "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS30E1PartnersInCrime Partners in Crime").Crime]]").



** The Eleventh Doctor's sexuality is all over the place in particular. When Amy and Rory kiss in front of him, he acts grossed out, like a child, and when River kisses him through the bars of her prison he flails his arms around and looks intensely confused. But there's also SomethingElseAlsoRises jokes in "Pond Life" and "The Crimson Horror", he non-consensually snogs both Tasha Lem and Jenny (when Jenny slaps him for it, he just laughs and says that her slap felt good; and when Tasha protests, he flirts and it's clear she secretly liked it), and then there's the parts in "Time of the Doctor" where in the same scene he has forgotten that nudity is socially inappropriate, and slaps Clara on the bum in front of her parents as part of their UndercoverAsLovers scheme.
** The Fourth Doctor is known for veering wildly between being quite a sexual character and a very asexual one. He has trouble understanding what features are supposed to make women beautiful in "City of Death" and seems sexually oblivious to the gorgeous, ludicrously underdressed NubileSavage he has following him around for a while, except to remind her that her style of dress is inappropriate on modern-day Earth or Victorian London. Yet he gets dialogue with Romana that is clearly intended to be flirtatious, makes [[GettingCrapPastTheRadar double-entendres and even blowjob jokes]], and sometimes flirts with side characters. Sometimes he treats Sarah Jane very sensually, [[{{UST}} touching her face gently, talking to her in a sultry voice, sniffing her hair while hiding behind her and even spooning her on one occasion]] - wheras at other times he looks at her like a thing. While carrying Eldraad in "The Hand of Fear", he uses a delicate touch, parts of the action choreographed like a dance; but notice how he manhandles Sarah Jane in "The Ark in Space" and "The Android Invasion", in a way intended to give the impression he had no understanding of handling women.
** Strax's gimmick is that he doesn't understand gender or human appearance in general, and his grasp gets better or worse depending on what's funnier. "Deep Breath" is internally inconsistent about whether he knows what clothes are.
** The Twelfth Doctor is even more socially alien than the Eleventh and has so little regard for social mores that he steals clothes from tramps, has no understanding of what makes people look different to each other, doesn't understand dating, thinks he is unrecognizable if he changes his coat, writes on walls and doesn't understand why putting a sign on his door reading 'GO AWAY HUMANS' is a bad idea. Occasionally, though, he's able to be incredibly socially manipulative - see "Time Heist", "Kill the Moon" and "Into the Dalek" for him forming subtle plans around reading other people.

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** The Eleventh Doctor's sexuality is all over the place in particular. When Amy and Rory kiss in front of him, he acts grossed out, like a child, and when River kisses him through the bars of her prison he flails his arms around and looks intensely confused. But there's also SomethingElseAlsoRises jokes in "Pond Life" and "The "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS33E11TheCrimsonHorror The Crimson Horror", Horror]]", he non-consensually snogs both Tasha Lem and Jenny (when Jenny slaps him for it, he just laughs and says that her slap felt good; and when Tasha protests, he flirts and it's clear she secretly liked it), and then there's the parts in "Time "[[Recap/DoctorWho2013CSTheTimeOfTheDoctor The Time of the Doctor" Doctor]]" where in the same scene he has forgotten that nudity is socially inappropriate, and slaps Clara on the bum in front of her parents as part of their UndercoverAsLovers scheme.
** The Fourth Doctor is known for veering wildly between being quite a sexual character and a very asexual one. He has trouble understanding what features are supposed to make women beautiful in "City "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS17E2CityOfDeath City of Death" Death]]" and seems sexually oblivious to the gorgeous, ludicrously underdressed NubileSavage he has following him around for a while, except to remind her that her style of dress is inappropriate on modern-day Earth or Victorian London. Yet he gets dialogue with Romana that is clearly intended to be flirtatious, makes [[GettingCrapPastTheRadar double-entendres and even blowjob jokes]], and sometimes flirts with side characters. Sometimes he treats Sarah Jane very sensually, [[{{UST}} touching her face gently, talking to her in a sultry voice, sniffing her hair while hiding behind her and even spooning her on one occasion]] - wheras at other times he looks at her like a thing. While carrying Eldraad in "The "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS14E2TheHandOfFear The Hand of Fear", Fear]]", he uses a delicate touch, parts of the action choreographed like a dance; but notice how he manhandles Sarah Jane in "The "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS12E2TheArkInSpace The Ark in Space" Space]]" and "The "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS13E4TheAndroidInvasion The Android Invasion", Invasion]]", in a way intended to give the impression he had no understanding of handling women.
** Strax's gimmick is that he doesn't understand gender or human appearance in general, and his grasp gets better or worse depending on what's funnier. "Deep Breath" "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS34E1DeepBreath Deep Breath]]" is internally inconsistent about whether he knows what clothes are.
** The Twelfth Doctor is even more socially alien than the Eleventh and has so little regard for social mores that he steals clothes from tramps, has no understanding of what makes people look different to each other, doesn't understand dating, thinks he is unrecognizable if he changes his coat, writes on walls and doesn't understand why putting a sign on his door reading 'GO AWAY HUMANS' is a bad idea. Occasionally, though, he's able to be incredibly socially manipulative - see "Time Heist", "Kill "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS34E5TimeHeist Time Heist]]", "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS34E7KillTheMoon Kill the Moon" Moon]]" and "Into "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS34E2IntoTheDalek Into the Dalek" Dalek]]" for him forming subtle plans around reading other people.



** In "Halloween on Spooner Street," Brian discovers Stewie shooting at "monsters" with an assault rifle, only to ask him how he doesn't know what trick-or-treating is. Stewie then asks Brian how he doesn't know that his reflection in the patio window isn't another dog.

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** In "Halloween "[[Recap/FamilyGuyS9E4HalloweenOnSpoonerStreet Halloween on Spooner Street," Street]]", Brian discovers Stewie shooting at "monsters" with an assault rifle, only to ask him how he doesn't know what trick-or-treating is. Stewie then asks Brian how he doesn't know that his reflection in the patio window isn't another dog.
16th Feb '18 10:36:48 AM HighCrate
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Compare IdiotBall, SmartBall, and AesopAmnesia. See also DependingOnTheWriter. Usually justified by RuleOfFunny. Can be considered a subtrope of {{Cloudcuckoolander}}.

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Compare IdiotBall, SmartBall, and AesopAmnesia. See also DependingOnTheWriter. Usually justified by RuleOfFunny. Can be considered a subtrope of {{Cloudcuckoolander}}.
13th Feb '18 6:41:55 AM Piterpicher
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* Jason Fox of ''ComicStrip/FoxTrot'' was once seen to comment that Miss October sure had big hooters ([[TheInternetIsForPorn during a storyline where the Fox family discovered Internet access]]), but also believes GirlsHaveCooties and has been known to drool over the centerfold... of a Magazine/NationalGeographic moon map. [[http://penny-arcade.com/comic/2014/07/28/the-talk-by-bill-amend And then there's this guest strip]] for PennyArcade...

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* Jason Fox of ''ComicStrip/FoxTrot'' was once seen to comment that Miss October sure had big hooters ([[TheInternetIsForPorn during a storyline where the Fox family discovered Internet access]]), but also believes GirlsHaveCooties and has been known to drool over the centerfold... of a Magazine/NationalGeographic moon map. [[http://penny-arcade.com/comic/2014/07/28/the-talk-by-bill-amend And then there's this guest strip]] for PennyArcade...''Webcomic/PennyArcade''...
7th Feb '18 4:58:14 PM nombretomado
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* Comicbook/HarleyQuinn goes from being a skilled criminal and TheDragon to TheJoker to a naive, childlike DumbBlonde DependingOnTheWriter. This applies to her personality as well. She can go from being a cruel, sociopathic killer one day, to suddenly getting EvenEvilHasStandards and PetTheDog moments the next.

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* Comicbook/HarleyQuinn goes from being a skilled criminal and TheDragon to TheJoker ComicBook/TheJoker to a naive, childlike DumbBlonde DependingOnTheWriter. This applies to her personality as well. She can go from being a cruel, sociopathic killer one day, to suddenly getting EvenEvilHasStandards and PetTheDog moments the next.
25th Dec '17 9:17:07 PM Kid
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** Occasionally happens within reviews, with him foreshadowing a twist for the audience earlier in a review and then acting surprised when it happens later on. A good example is in the review of ''BridgeToTerabithia'', where he makes a joke about [[spoiler:Leslie's death]] earlier on and then acts surprised when it happens later on.
21st Dec '17 6:21:45 AM Troperinik
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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Kaeloo}}'': Stumpy is incredibly naïve at times, such as believing Mr. Cat when the latter told him that the way to make a baby was to hold your breath for two days, but one episode of Season 2 showed him to be extremely perverted.

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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Kaeloo}}'': ''WesternAnimation/{{Kaeloo}}'':
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Stumpy is incredibly naïve at times, such as believing Mr. Cat when the latter told him that the way to make a baby was to hold your breath for two days, but one episode of Season 2 showed him to be extremely perverted.perverted.
** Kaeloo counts as well. One episode showed her having an excited and turned on reaction to seeing... certain parts of Mr. Cat's anatomy, but in another episode where he asks her for sex, she has no idea what he's talking about.
14th Sep '17 12:07:11 AM trixus
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** Due to being a 10-year-old boy, Bart fits the trope when it comes to things like sex, but that doesn't stop him from constantly making crude jokes and innuendo.

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** Due to being a 10-year-old boy, Bart fits the trope when it comes to things like sex, but that doesn't stop him from constantly making crude jokes and innuendo. There is even a joke about him freaking out when Homer gave him TheTalk in one episode but it is not carried over.
29th Apr '17 12:47:56 AM annette12
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** Likewise, Lisa switches between world-weary cynicism and childlike naivete as the plot demands. In one instance, within seconds - she hurls a bucket of red paint at Krusty (who's wearing a coat made from some kind of animal skins), screams "Fur is murder!" then follows it with "When's the Krusty movie coming out?"
** And of course, there's Homer, whose borderline retardation is seasoned with odd AuthorFilibuster moments of uncharacteristic eloquence.

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** Likewise, Lisa switches between world-weary cynicism and childlike naivete as the plot demands. In one instance, within seconds - she hurls a bucket of red paint at Krusty (who's wearing a coat made from some kind of animal skins), screams "Fur is murder!" then follows it with "When's the Krusty movie coming out?"
** And of course, there's Homer, whose borderline retardation stupidity is seasoned with odd AuthorFilibuster moments of uncharacteristic eloquence.
8th Apr '17 9:55:20 PM nombretomado
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* Otto and Twister from RocketPower, with Twister being more the naive one. One particular episode [[LampshadeHanging lampshades]] this in effect; the gang convince Eddie (Prince of The Netherworld) to skate in his empty pool as long as they keep it to themselves and leave before his parents get home. Twister, for his part, keeps quiet, even when his brother Lars comes to make mischief. Otto on the other hand, kept bragging about it to strangers like it was a party, even to Lars. Reggie's WhatTheHellHero one liner sums it up perfectly.

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* Otto and Twister from RocketPower, ''WesternAnimation/RocketPower'', with Twister being more the naive one. One particular episode [[LampshadeHanging lampshades]] this in effect; the gang convince Eddie (Prince of The Netherworld) to skate in his empty pool as long as they keep it to themselves and leave before his parents get home. Twister, for his part, keeps quiet, even when his brother Lars comes to make mischief. Otto on the other hand, kept bragging about it to strangers like it was a party, even to Lars. Reggie's WhatTheHellHero one liner sums it up perfectly.
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