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** Christianty is shown to have existed in the first series, but this doesn't justify the examples in Brotherhood or the manga.
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* ''FullmetalAlchemist'': As far as it's shown, there's nothing like a benevolent monotheist deity — there's the jerkass god, Truth, and there's Father, who's kind of like {{Satan}}. However, Greed does a SeeYouInHell to his family and Buccaneer references FluffyCloudHeaven.

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* ''FullmetalAlchemist'': As far as it's shown, there's nothing like a benevolent monotheist deity — there's the jerkass god, Truth, and there's Father, who's kind of like {{Satan}}. However, Greed does a SeeYouInHell to his family and Buccaneer references FluffyCloudHeaven. Then again, people are shown to ''believe'' in a variety of religions, so YourMileageMayVary.
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*In an interview Christopher Paolini, author of the InheritanceCycle mentioned this problem, specificially citing "backpedaled" as a word he couldn't use. Too bad he used it anyway.
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** Except cretin didn't come from Cretan. It was originally derived from the French word for Christian. "That poor cretin" used to be something like "that poor guy".

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** Tolkein even [[WordOfGod states]] even the names used for the characters aren't "really" their names, but rather our cultural equivalent. For example, Frodo's "real name" in untranslated Westron (Common speech) is "Maura Labingi."

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** Tolkein Tolkien even [[WordOfGod states]] even the names used for the characters aren't "really" their names, but rather our cultural equivalent. For example, Frodo's "real name" in untranslated Westron (Common speech) is "Maura Labingi."


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* Parodied in ''DaveBarry's Complete Guide to Guys'', where one of the entries in Alexander the Great's diary reads:
-->324 B.C., Jan. 6 - Note: Find out what "B.C." stands for.
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When played straight, this is often an aspect of the TranslationConvention. Ways to [[DefiedTrope defy this trope]] include HoldYourHippogriffs, OhMyGods, or YouMeanXmas.

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When played straight, this is often an aspect of the TranslationConvention. TranslationConvention, in that the phrase is uttered for the viewer's benefit, rather than the characters'. Ways to [[DefiedTrope defy this trope]] include HoldYourHippogriffs, OhMyGods, or YouMeanXmas.
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* In ''HisDarkMaterials'', Lyra refers to uranium mines, but a later chapter refers to "the other five planets," indicating that Uranus hasn't been discovered in her world. (In our world, Uranium was named after Uranus because they were discovered around the same time.)
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The inverse of HoldYourHippogriffs and OhMyGods, it's when someone uses an expression which could not possibly have come into use, due to SpeculativeFiction history preventing the etymology from taking place. "Jeez" or variants are the most commonly seen words which invoke this trope. Another form of this trope happens in HistoricalFiction and the like, with words and phrases that aren't supposed to have come into use yet. This is most often used with words which are NewerThanTheyThink, or when people in the year 700 BC refer to the present time as "700 BC".

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The inverse of HoldYourHippogriffs and OhMyGods, it's when someone uses an expression which could not possibly have come into use, due to SpeculativeFiction history preventing the etymology from taking place.place, making it an instance of InexplicableCulturalTies. "Jeez" or variants are the most commonly seen words which invoke this trope. Another form of this trope happens in HistoricalFiction and the like, with words and phrases that aren't supposed to have come into use yet. This is most often used with words which are NewerThanTheyThink, or when people in the year 700 BC refer to the present time as "700 BC".
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** Tolkein even [[WordOfGod states]] even the names used for the characters aren't "really" their names, but rather our cultural equivalent. For example, Frodo's "real name" in untranslated Westron (Common speech) is "Maura Labingi."
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The inverse of HoldYourHippogriffs and OhMyGods, it's when someone uses an expression which could not possibly have come into use, due to SpeculativeFiction history preventing the etymology from taking place. "Jeez" or variants are the most commonly seen words which invoke this trope. Another form of this trope happens in HistoricalFiction and the like, with words and phrases that aren't supposed to have come in to use yet. This is most often used with words which are NewerThanTheyThink, or when people in the year 700 BC refer to the present time as "700 BC".

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The inverse of HoldYourHippogriffs and OhMyGods, it's when someone uses an expression which could not possibly have come into use, due to SpeculativeFiction history preventing the etymology from taking place. "Jeez" or variants are the most commonly seen words which invoke this trope. Another form of this trope happens in HistoricalFiction and the like, with words and phrases that aren't supposed to have come in to into use yet. This is most often used with words which are NewerThanTheyThink, or when people in the year 700 BC refer to the present time as "700 BC".
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The inverse of HoldYourHippogriffs and OhMyGods, it's when someone uses an expression which could not possibly have come into use, due to SpeculativeFiction history preventing the etymology from taking place. "Jeez" or variants are the most commonly seen words which invoke this trope. Another form of this trope happens in HistoricalFiction and the like, when words and phrases that were never invented are used. This is most often used when {{neologism}}s are used (although depending on the context, it could be PlayedForLaughs), as well as words which are NewerThanTheyThink; or when people in the year 700 BC refer to the present time as "700 BC".

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The inverse of HoldYourHippogriffs and OhMyGods, it's when someone uses an expression which could not possibly have come into use, due to SpeculativeFiction history preventing the etymology from taking place. "Jeez" or variants are the most commonly seen words which invoke this trope. Another form of this trope happens in HistoricalFiction and the like, when with words and phrases that were never invented are used. aren't supposed to have come in to use yet. This is most often used when {{neologism}}s are used (although depending on the context, it could be PlayedForLaughs), as well as with words which are NewerThanTheyThink; NewerThanTheyThink, or when people in the year 700 BC refer to the present time as "700 BC".
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The inverse of HoldYourHippogriffs and OhMyGods, it's when someone uses an expression which could not possibly have come into use, due to SpeculativeFiction history preventing the etymology from taking place. "Jeez" or variants are the most commonly seen words which invoke this trope.

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The inverse of HoldYourHippogriffs and OhMyGods, it's when someone uses an expression which could not possibly have come into use, due to SpeculativeFiction history preventing the etymology from taking place. "Jeez" or variants are the most commonly seen words which invoke this trope.
trope. Another form of this trope happens in HistoricalFiction and the like, when words and phrases that were never invented are used. This is most often used when {{neologism}}s are used (although depending on the context, it could be PlayedForLaughs), as well as words which are NewerThanTheyThink; or when people in the year 700 BC refer to the present time as "700 BC".
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* A translation-created problem in the Spanish version of an ''{{Asterix}}'' comic book: A character sneezes, and Asterix says "Bless you!" — which in this context is translated to Spanish as "¡Jesús!" This raised the question for Spanish readers of how could Asterix say that in the year 50 B.C.

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* A translation-created problem DubInducedPlotHole in the Spanish version of an ''{{Asterix}}'' comic book: A character sneezes, and Asterix says "Bless you!" — which in this context is translated to Spanish as "¡Jesús!" This raised the question for Spanish readers of how could Asterix say that in the year 50 B.C.
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Depending on how deeply and pedantically you're willing to go, this is pretty much unavoidable whenever you're using modern-human language in a time or setting that isn't modern Earth. Because of the way language evolves, it's hard to come out with a sentence or two that doesn't somehow reference some real-life history.


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* Deliberately averted in ''TheLordOfTheRings''. Tolkien, as a linguist, did his best to remove and replace modern English words that derived from languages other than English. For example, "pipe weed," is clearly tobacco, but isn't called such because the word "tobacco" comes from a language native to the Caribbean.
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* ''Film/BattlefieldEarth'' has the alien Psychlos refer to Euclidean geometry, though this might have been TranslationConvention.
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** In ''Discworld/WitchesAbroad'', there's a reference to a christening. By ''Discworld/CarpeJugulum'' he's thought about this, and gone for Naming Ceremony.

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** In ''Discworld/WitchesAbroad'', there's a reference to a christening. By In ''Discworld/CarpeJugulum'' he's thought about this, and gone for ''Nanny Ogg's Cookbook'' this has been replaced with Naming Ceremony.
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**In ''Discworld/WitchesAbroad'', there's a reference to a christening. By ''Discworld/CarpeJugulum'' he's thought about this, and gone for Naming Ceremony.
**Parodied in the ''Assassins' Guild Diary'' which uses the orphaned word "byzantine" ... in explaining that the politics of the Komplezian Empire were the origins of the modern Morporkian word "complex".
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* In DragonBallZ, Buu calls Vegito a cretin, on a planet that has no island of Crete. Also, back in DragonBall, a vampire see's a cross with the words 'Jesus Christ' underneath it.
* In Sonic X, there is a character called 'Black Narcissus' Despite his race never having visited Earth and in fact existing in a whole other universe! (plus Sonic X's earth doesn't appear to have the same countries anyway...)
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* In AdamCadre's ''Shrapnel'', a character fighting in the Civil War calls another "Einstein" -- [[spoiler:which is justified, as he's a time traveller.]]

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* In AdamCadre's ''Shrapnel'', a character fighting in the Civil War calls another "Einstein" -- [[spoiler:which is justified, an in-universe slip up on his part, as he's a time traveller.traveler.]]
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* ''FullmetalAlchemist'': As far as is shown, there's nothing like a benevolent monotheist deity— there's the jerkass god Truth and Father, who is kind of like {{Satan}}. However, Greed does a SeeYouInHell to his family and Buccaneer references FluffyCloudHeaven.

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* ''FullmetalAlchemist'': As far as is it's shown, there's nothing like a benevolent monotheist deity— deity — there's the jerkass god Truth god, Truth, and there's Father, who is who's kind of like {{Satan}}. However, Greed does a SeeYouInHell to his family and Buccaneer references FluffyCloudHeaven.
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Another variant of this trope is used [[PlayedForLaughs for humor]], such as yelling out "Jesus" in front of the real Jesus, who will usually assume that He is being addressed.

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Another variant of this trope is used [[PlayedForLaughs for humor]], such as yelling out "Jesus" "Jesus Christ!" in front of the real Jesus, who will usually assume that He is being addressed.
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* In the ''DragonridersOfPern'' series, Pernese still say "jays" and "by all that's holy" despite having OutgrownSuchSillySuperstitions.

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* In the ''DragonridersOfPern'' series, Pernese still say "jays" and "by all that's holy" despite having OutgrownSuchSillySuperstitions. Mildly justified in that they might just be holdover expressions from the original Terran colonists.

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The inverse of HoldYourHippogriffs and OhMyGods, it's when someone uses an expression which could not possibly have come into use, due to SpeculativeFiction history preventing the etymology from taking place. "Jeez" or variants are the most commonly seen words which invoke this trope. In fact, when HoldYourHippogriffs, OhMyGods, or YouMeanXmas is used, it's to [[DefiedTrope defy this trope]].

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The inverse of HoldYourHippogriffs and OhMyGods, it's when someone uses an expression which could not possibly have come into use, due to SpeculativeFiction history preventing the etymology from taking place. "Jeez" or variants are the most commonly seen words which invoke this trope. In fact, when trope.

When played straight, this is often an aspect of the TranslationConvention. Ways to [[DefiedTrope defy this trope]] include
HoldYourHippogriffs, OhMyGods, or YouMeanXmas is used, it's to [[DefiedTrope defy this trope]].
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* In ''{{StarFox 64}}'', Falco, rather [[MemeticMutation infamously]], sarcastically calls Fox [=McCloud=] "Einstein" if you shoot him. When a reader of ''NintendoPower'' magazine sent in a letter questioning how could a being from another galaxy know about AlbertEinstein, the editors' response was, "Because the game's creators are from this galaxy, Einstein."

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* In ''{{StarFox 64}}'', Falco, rather [[MemeticMutation infamously]], sarcastically calls Fox [=McCloud=] "Einstein" if you shoot him. When a reader of ''NintendoPower'' magazine sent in a letter questioning how could a being from another galaxy know about AlbertEinstein, the editors' response was, "Because [[{{Doylist}} the game's creators are from this galaxy, galaxy]], Einstein."
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* In AdamCadre's ''Shrapnel'', a character fighting in the Civil War calls another "Einstein" -- [[spoiler:which is justified, as he's a time traveller.]]
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* The 1980 ''Film/FlashGordon'' movie has the War Rocket Ajax as part of Ming's fleet. Ajax of course being a famous Greek hero, and Ming has never heard of Earth before the start of the movie.
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The inverse of HoldYourHippogriffs and OhMyGods, it's when someone uses an expression which could not possibly have come into use, due to SpeculativeFiction history preventing the etymology from taking place. "Jeez" or variants are the most commonly seen words which invoke this trope. In fact, when Hold Your Hippogriffs or Oh My Gods is used, it's to defy this trope.

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The inverse of HoldYourHippogriffs and OhMyGods, it's when someone uses an expression which could not possibly have come into use, due to SpeculativeFiction history preventing the etymology from taking place. "Jeez" or variants are the most commonly seen words which invoke this trope. In fact, when Hold Your Hippogriffs HoldYourHippogriffs, OhMyGods, or Oh My Gods YouMeanXmas is used, it's to [[DefiedTrope defy this trope.
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The inverse of HoldYourHippogriffs and OhMyGods, it's when someone uses an expression which could not possibly have come into use, due to SpeculativeFiction history preventing the etymology from taking place. "Jeez" or variants are the most commonly seen words which invoke this trope. In fact, when HoldYourHippogriffs or OhMyGods are used, it's to defy this trope.

Another variant of this trope is used [[PlayedForLaughs for humor,]] such as yelling out "Jesus" in front of the real Jesus, who will usually assume that He is being addressed.

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The inverse of HoldYourHippogriffs and OhMyGods, it's when someone uses an expression which could not possibly have come into use, due to SpeculativeFiction history preventing the etymology from taking place. "Jeez" or variants are the most commonly seen words which invoke this trope. In fact, when HoldYourHippogriffs Hold Your Hippogriffs or OhMyGods are Oh My Gods is used, it's to defy this trope.

Another variant of this trope is used [[PlayedForLaughs for humor,]] humor]], such as yelling out "Jesus" in front of the real Jesus, who will usually assume that He is being addressed.



* In the English dub of ''InuYasha'' there's an episode where he remarks, "we've all got our own cross to bear." This is set before Christianity was introduced to Japan.
* ''FullmetalAlchemist''. As far as is shown, there's nothing like a benevolent monotheist deity- there's the jerkass god Truth and Father, whose kind of like Satan. However, Greed does a SeeYouInHell to his family and Buccaneer references FluffyCloudHeaven.

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* In the English dub of ''InuYasha'' ''InuYasha'', there's an episode where he remarks, "we've "We've all got our own cross to bear." This is set before Christianity was introduced to Japan.
* ''FullmetalAlchemist''. ''FullmetalAlchemist'': As far as is shown, there's nothing like a benevolent monotheist deity- deity— there's the jerkass god Truth and Father, whose who is kind of like Satan.{{Satan}}. However, Greed does a SeeYouInHell to his family and Buccaneer references FluffyCloudHeaven.



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* A translation-created problem in the Spanish version of an ''{{Asterix}}'' comic book: a character sneezes, Asterix says "Bless you!" - which in this context is translated to Spanish as "Jesus!". Raising the question for Spanish readers of how could Asterix say that in the year 50 B.C.

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* A translation-created problem in the Spanish version of an ''{{Asterix}}'' comic book: a A character sneezes, and Asterix says "Bless you!" - which in this context is translated to Spanish as "Jesus!". Raising "¡Jesús!" This raised the question for Spanish readers of how could Asterix say that in the year 50 B.C.



* ''HistoryOfTheWorldPartOne'', Comicus says "Jesus" in exasperation during The Last Supper, causing Jesus to answer, "Yes?" assuming that he was addressing him.

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* In MelBrooks' ''HistoryOfTheWorldPartOne'', Comicus says "Jesus" in exasperation during The Last Supper, causing Jesus to answer, "Yes?" assuming that he Comicus was addressing him.



* One of the earlier {{Discworld}} books references gypsies, which is kind of a problem, since there's no Egypt in the universe to derive that name- the equivalent is called Djelibeybi. So, if there are Roma on the Disc, they should probably be nicknamed Jelibeybs or something like that.

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* One of the earlier {{Discworld}} books references gypsies, which is kind of a problem, since there's no Egypt in the universe to derive that name- name— the equivalent is called Djelibeybi. So, if there are Roma on the Disc, they should probably be nicknamed Jelibeybs or something like that.



* ''{{Dinosaurs}}'' uses the B.C. timeline. {{Lampshaded}} in the first episode when Robbie asks why the dates go backwards. "I mean, what are we counting down for? What are we waiting for?"

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* ''{{Dinosaurs}}'' uses the B.C. timeline. {{Lampshaded}} in the first episode when Robbie asks why the dates go backwards.backward. "I mean, what are we counting down for? What are we waiting for?"



* Falco rather [[MemeticMutation infamously]] sarcastically calls Fox "Einstein" if you shoot him in StarFox64. When a reader of Nintendo Power magazine sent in a letter questioning how could a being from another galaxy know about Einstein, their response was "Because the game's creators are from this galaxy, Einstein."
** Falco not only says "Einstein", but also "Jeez Laweez, what's that?". He really loves this trope.

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* Falco In ''{{StarFox 64}}'', Falco, rather [[MemeticMutation infamously]] infamously]], sarcastically calls Fox [=McCloud=] "Einstein" if you shoot him in StarFox64. him. When a reader of Nintendo Power ''NintendoPower'' magazine sent in a letter questioning how could a being from another galaxy know about Einstein, their AlbertEinstein, the editors' response was was, "Because the game's creators are from this galaxy, Einstein."
** Falco not only says "Einstein", not only, "Einstein," but also also, "Jeez Laweez, what's that?". that?" He really loves this trope.



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* ''{{Exiern}}'', a HighFantasy world with no relation to earth much less Japan apparently has [[http://www.exiern.com/?p=1033 Yaoi Porn]], mentioned by name.

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*In the English dub of ''InuYasha'' there's an episode where he remarks, "we've all got our own cross to bear." This is set before Christianity was introduced to Japan.
*''FullmetalAlchemist''. As far as is shown, there's nothing like a benevolent monotheist deity- there's the jerkass god Truth and Father, whose kind of like Satan. However, Greed does a SeeYouInHell to his family and Buccaneer references FluffyCloudHeaven.
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*A translation-created problem in the Spanish version of an ''{{Asterix}}'' comic book: a character sneezes, Asterix says "Bless you!" - which in this context is translated to Spanish as "Jesus!". Raising the question for Spanish readers of how could Asterix say that in the year 50 B.C.
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*''HistoryOfTheWorldPartOne'', Comicus says "Jesus" in exasperation during The Last Supper, causing Jesus to answer, "Yes?" assuming that he was addressing him.
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*One of the earlier {{Discworld}} books references gypsies, which is kind of a problem, since there's no Egypt in the universe to derive that name- the equivalent is called Djelibeybi. So, if there are Roma on the Disc, they should probably be nicknamed Jelibeybs or something like that.
*In the ''DragonridersOfPern'' series, Pernese still say "jays" and "by all that's holy" despite having OutgrownSuchSillySuperstitions.
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*Thanks to ThrowItIn, ''BattlestarGalactica's'' Colonel Tigh exclaims "Jesus!" in a polytheistic society that's never heard of [[spoiler:and predates]] Abrahamic religions.
*''{{Dinosaurs}}'' uses the B.C. timeline. {{Lampshaded}} in the first episode when Robbie asks why the dates go backwards. "I mean, what are we counting down for? What are we waiting for?"
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*Falco rather [[MemeticMutation infamously]] sarcastically calls Fox "Einstein" if you shoot him in StarFox64. When a reader of Nintendo Power magazine sent in a letter questioning how could a being from another galaxy know about Einstein, their response was "Because the game's creators are from this galaxy, Einstein."
**Falco not only says "Einstein", but also "Jeez Laweez, what's that?". He really loves this trope.
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*''{{Exiern}}'', a HighFantasy world with no relation to earth much less Japan apparently has [[http://www.exiern.com/?p=1033 Yaoi Porn]], mentioned by name.
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*In the animated ''Animated/TheReturnOfTheKing'', Samwise's response to Gollum's final attack is a very animated '''"Gooood''' help us!"
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