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28th Sep '16 7:31:59 AM JamesAustin
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The Bigger Bad variety is somewhat more common than the new Hero variety. Crossovers with new Heroes, however, have a tendency to become a series in their own right, a SpinOff that just happens to have crossover origins.

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The Bigger Bad Greater Scope Villain variety is somewhat more common than the new Hero variety. Crossovers with new Heroes, however, have a tendency to become a series in their own right, a SpinOff that just happens to have crossover origins.



* A well known BiggerBad example is the Anti-Monitor from DC's ''ComicBook/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths''. There were some new heroes as well--Pariah, Harbinger, the Monitor, Alex Luthor, Superboy-Prime, Lady Quark, and Doctor Light--but, with the exception of Doctor Light, they faded quickly after the event ended, only brought up when the writer wished to remind the readers of ''Crisis''. Or in the case of Superboy-Prime, to make a FaceHeelTurn and become a recurring BigBad in his own right.
** Similiar with 90's Bigger Bads - DC's [[ComicBook/OurWorldsAtWar Imperiex]] and Marvel's ComicBook/{{Onslaught}}.

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* A well known BiggerBad GreaterScopeVillain example is the Anti-Monitor from DC's ''ComicBook/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths''. There were some new heroes as well--Pariah, Harbinger, the Monitor, Alex Luthor, Superboy-Prime, Lady Quark, and Doctor Light--but, with the exception of Doctor Light, they faded quickly after the event ended, only brought up when the writer wished to remind the readers of ''Crisis''. Or in the case of Superboy-Prime, to make a FaceHeelTurn and become a recurring BigBad in his own right.
** Similiar with 90's Bigger Bads Greater Scope Villains - DC's [[ComicBook/OurWorldsAtWar Imperiex]] and Marvel's ComicBook/{{Onslaught}}.



* In ''VideoGame/KingdomHearts'', you have Sora and his friends to make the Heroes. There are a few other side characters, and then the Bigger Bads: the various incarnations of Xehanort, Organization XIII, and of course in general, TheHeartless.

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* In ''VideoGame/KingdomHearts'', you have Sora and his friends to make the Heroes. There are a few other side characters, and then the Bigger Bads: Greater Scope Villains: the various incarnations of Xehanort, Organization XIII, and of course in general, TheHeartless.



* ''VideoGame/MortalKombatVsDCUniverse'' has Dark Khan, a Bigger Bad who could only be created due to the crossover, being the result of {{ComicBook/Darkseid}} and Shao Kahn being struck down by Franchise/{{Superman}} and Raiden respectively as they were going to escape into dimensional portals while the universes were seperate. All this happening at ''the exact same spot in time and space'', thus merging them ''and'' the two universes.

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* ''VideoGame/MortalKombatVsDCUniverse'' has Dark Khan, a Bigger Bad Greater Scope Villain who could only be created due to the crossover, being the result of {{ComicBook/Darkseid}} and Shao Kahn being struck down by Franchise/{{Superman}} and Raiden respectively as they were going to escape into dimensional portals while the universes were seperate. All this happening at ''the exact same spot in time and space'', thus merging them ''and'' the two universes.



* ''VideoGame/DissidiaFinalFantasy'' has Cosmos as the BigGood and the guiding force driving the heroes to defeat Chaos. Chaos himself ''sorta'' counts as this too, as he's from ''Final Fantasy I'' originally, but has been [[AdaptationalBadass reinvented]] [[SuddenlyVoiced to]] [[AdaptationExpansion the]] [[BiggerBad point]] the only real similarities between his original incarnation and his ''Dissidia'' incarnation is their physical appearances and name. The ''Final Fantasy I'' Chaos was a generic demon OneWingedAngel transformation for Garland--''Dissidia's'' Chaos is a PhysicalGod and the BiggerBad to all previous Big Bads. Note that it's still implied that he is in fact the Chaos from ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyI'' seeing as rigorous time-and-dimension travel is explained to come into play through the reports in 012. Garland says that he and Chaos are the same thing in a cutsceen anyway. Despite Garland being TheDragon to Chaos in this game.

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* ''VideoGame/DissidiaFinalFantasy'' has Cosmos as the BigGood and the guiding force driving the heroes to defeat Chaos. Chaos himself ''sorta'' counts as this too, as he's from ''Final Fantasy I'' originally, but has been [[AdaptationalBadass reinvented]] [[SuddenlyVoiced to]] [[AdaptationExpansion the]] [[BiggerBad [[GreaterScopeVillain point]] the only real similarities between his original incarnation and his ''Dissidia'' incarnation is their physical appearances and name. The ''Final Fantasy I'' Chaos was a generic demon OneWingedAngel transformation for Garland--''Dissidia's'' Chaos is a PhysicalGod and the BiggerBad GreaterScopeVillain to all previous Big Bads. Note that it's still implied that he is in fact the Chaos from ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyI'' seeing as rigorous time-and-dimension travel is explained to come into play through the reports in 012. Garland says that he and Chaos are the same thing in a cutsceen anyway. Despite Garland being TheDragon to Chaos in this game.
28th Sep '16 7:07:09 AM JamesAustin
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When you have a CrisisCrossover or a MassiveMultiplayerCrossover, you'll need something in order to motivate the heroes into action. While having the {{Big Bad}}s of the series [[VillainTeamUp team]] [[LegionOfDoom up]] can work, sometimes you want a new, even BiggerBad. One that requires such a massive team up of heroism.

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When you have a CrisisCrossover or a MassiveMultiplayerCrossover, you'll need something in order to motivate the heroes into action. While having the {{Big Bad}}s of the series [[VillainTeamUp team]] [[LegionOfDoom up]] can work, sometimes you want a new, even BiggerBad.GreaterScopeVillain. One that requires such a massive team up of heroism.
24th Sep '16 12:28:00 PM nombretomado
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* Most of [[CapcomVsWhatever the Capcom vs. series]] avoided this trope, except for:

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* Most of [[CapcomVsWhatever [[VideoGame/CapcomVsWhatever the Capcom vs. series]] avoided this trope, except for:
19th Sep '16 7:03:56 AM MarcoPolo250
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* The ''Videogame/MarioGolf'' and ''VideoGame/MarioTennis'' series included original characters in the N64 Mario Golf, GBC Mario Golf and Tennis, and the GBA Mario Golf and Tennis versions, so that players would have a decent selection of characters to choose between in the former, and enough rivals and opponents, as well as as Playable {{OC Stand In}}s, in the latter four. Both GBC games can [[OneGameForThePriceOfTwo transfer their playable characters and their stats]] to their respective N64 versions, and the GBA and GC Mario Golf games follow in their footsteps.

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* The ''Videogame/MarioGolf'' and ''VideoGame/MarioTennis'' series included original characters in the N64 Mario Golf, GBC Mario Golf Nintendo64 version of ''Mario Golf'', the GameBoyColor versions of ''Mario Golf'' & ''Mario Tennis'', and Tennis, and the GBA Mario Golf and Tennis versions, so that ''Mario Golf: Advance Tour'' & ''Mario Tennis: Power Tour'' on GameBoyAdvance. This allows players would to have a decent selection of characters to choose between in the former, and enough rivals and rivals, opponents, as well as as Playable {{OC Stand In}}s, In}}s in the latter four. Both GBC games can [[OneGameForThePriceOfTwo transfer their playable characters and their stats]] to their respective N64 versions, and the GBA and GC Mario Golf golf games follow in their footsteps.
19th Sep '16 6:50:15 AM MarcoPolo250
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* ''VideoGame/TheKingOfFighters'' started as a MassiveMultiplayerCrossover with a handful of original characters, but has slowly evolved to the point that the originals nearly outnumber the crossover characters. It's gotten to the point that most fans don't complain about the ''VideoGame/FatalFury'' cast being downplayed in what used to be their tournament, but that the preceding original protagonist characters have always had the spotlight stolen from them by ''another'' original, since every major story arc so far has a different protagonist.

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* ''VideoGame/TheKingOfFighters'' started as a MassiveMultiplayerCrossover with a handful of original characters, but has slowly evolved to the point that the originals nearly outnumber the crossover characters. It's gotten to the point that most fans don't complain about the ''VideoGame/FatalFury'' cast being downplayed in what used to be their tournament, but that the preceding original protagonist characters have always had the spotlight stolen from them by ''another'' original, ''other'' original characters, since every major story arc so far has a different protagonist.
19th Sep '16 6:48:07 AM MarcoPolo250
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* ''VideoGame/TheKingOfFighters'' started as a MassiveMultiplayerCrossover with a handful of original characters, but has slowly evolved to the point that the originals nearly outnumber the crossover characters. To the point that what most fans complain about is not that the ''VideoGame/FatalFury'' cast have been downplayed in what used to be their tournament, but that one original character (Ash Crimson) has stolen the spotlight from ''another'' original (Kyo Kusanagi).
** Kyo Kusanagi actually had the spotlight stolen from him years earlier in KOF '99, with K'Dash, who in turn got it stolen by Ash Crimson It seems that every major story arc has a different protagonist, though Ash Crimson is definitely a VillainProtagonist, as well as rather effeminate, which would explain his unpopularity. [[spoiler: Until it was revealed that Ash was always on the side of the heroes, but had a very risky plan that ''relied on him pretending to be a VillainProtagonist'' and on ultimately ''causing his own death''. [[AlasPoorScrappy A good part of the fandom forgave him]].]]
*** The 3D Maximum Impact Series take this further by having different protagonists, Alba and Soiree Meira.

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* ''VideoGame/TheKingOfFighters'' started as a MassiveMultiplayerCrossover with a handful of original characters, but has slowly evolved to the point that the originals nearly outnumber the crossover characters. To It's gotten to the point that what most fans don't complain about is not that the ''VideoGame/FatalFury'' cast have been being downplayed in what used to be their tournament, but that one the preceding original character (Ash Crimson) has stolen protagonist characters have always had the spotlight stolen from them by ''another'' original (Kyo Kusanagi).
original, since every major story arc so far has a different protagonist.
** In the case of the main games, Kyo Kusanagi actually had the spotlight stolen from him years earlier in KOF '99, with K'Dash, who in turn got it stolen by Ash Crimson It seems that every major story arc has a different protagonist, though Crimson. Since Ash Crimson is definitely was a VillainProtagonist, as well as rather effeminate, which would explain it only added to his unpopularity. unpopularity [[spoiler: Until until it was revealed that Ash was always on the side of the heroes, but had a very risky plan that ''relied on him pretending to be a VillainProtagonist'' and on ultimately ''causing his own death''. heroes. [[AlasPoorScrappy A good part of the fandom forgave him]].him after that]].]]
*** ** The 3D Maximum Impact Series take this further by having different protagonists, Alba and Soiree Meira.
14th Aug '16 12:11:23 PM nombretomado
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* Dante and Beatrice from the DivineComedy. A SelfInsert of the author meets the souls of [[HistoricalDomainCharacter historical people]] and [[PublicDomainCharacter fictional characters]] and eventually meets his UnrequitedLove.

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* Dante and Beatrice from the DivineComedy.''Literature/TheDivineComedy''. A SelfInsert of the author meets the souls of [[HistoricalDomainCharacter historical people]] and [[PublicDomainCharacter fictional characters]] and eventually meets his UnrequitedLove.
30th Jul '16 2:11:13 AM Morgenthaler
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* Roger Rabbit interacted with various comic strip characters in the novel ''WhoCensoredRogerRabbit'', which loosely inspired a [[Film/WhoFramedRogerRabbit film]].

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* Roger Rabbit interacted with various comic strip characters in the novel ''WhoCensoredRogerRabbit'', ''Literature/WhoCensoredRogerRabbit'', which loosely inspired a [[Film/WhoFramedRogerRabbit film]].
5th Jul '16 10:45:35 PM WolfThunder
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** Technically, the first Original Generation game was ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsGaiden'', which ''[[UrExample predates]]'' ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsOriginalGeneration'' by eight years. Unfortunately, its rather racy, risque dialogue sadly made this a NoExportForYou, though with a NintendoDS VideoGameRemake recently released, it might get a second chance.

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** Technically, the first Original Generation game was ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsGaiden'', which ''[[UrExample predates]]'' ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsOriginalGeneration'' by eight years. Unfortunately, its rather racy, risque dialogue sadly made this a NoExportForYou, though with a NintendoDS VideoGameRemake recently released, it might get a second chance.NoExportForYou.
4th Jul '16 3:34:08 AM chibibo
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* The crossover game ''VideoGame/LegoDimensions'' gives us Lord Vortech, whose goal is to smash together the various LEGO universes to create his vision of a "perfect" world. We also get his former assistant X-PO and their homeworld Vorton, which contains portals to all the licensed universes.
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