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3rd Jul '16 7:04:45 AM Quanyails
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* Most of [[VideoGame/TheForceUnleashed The Force Unleashed's]] missions involve Starkiller cutting down everyone and everything he comes across, including Imperial Stormtroopers who are, at the moment, at least, on his side. [[spoiler: This gets subverted in the second half, though. Once Galen joins the Rebellion, he never has to kill another rebel soldier again.]]

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* Most of [[VideoGame/TheForceUnleashed The Force Unleashed's]] ''VideoGame/TheForceUnleashed''[='=]s missions involve Starkiller cutting down everyone and everything he comes across, including Imperial Stormtroopers who are, at the moment, at least, on his side. [[spoiler: This gets subverted in the second half, though. Once Galen joins the Rebellion, he never has to kill another rebel soldier again.]]
1st Jul '16 6:58:48 AM SANC
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In a world with BlackAndGrayMorality where the [[DesignatedHero "good"]] side isn't much better than the "evil" side, this may be presented as the most idealistic path.

Can also result from an "Evil Path" that involves ICanRuleAlone. The militant form of StupidNeutral. If the whole point is to simply KillEmAll ForTheEvulz, you have OmnicidalManiac.

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In a world with BlackAndGrayMorality where the [[DesignatedHero "good"]] good]] side isn't much better than the "evil" evil side, this may be presented as the most idealistic path.

Can also result from an "Evil Path" Evil Path that involves ICanRuleAlone. The militant form of StupidNeutral. If the whole point is to simply KillEmAll ForTheEvulz, you have OmnicidalManiac.
17th Apr '16 10:02:35 PM AtticusOmundson
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* Booker DeWitt in ''VideoGame/BioShockInfinite'' fights both the militants of Columbia and the Vox Populi rebels with little hesitation, as both are powermad and filled with nothing but bloodlust.

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* Booker DeWitt [=DeWitt=] in ''VideoGame/BioShockInfinite'' fights both the militants of Columbia and the Vox Populi rebels with little hesitation, as both are powermad and filled with nothing but bloodlust.
17th Apr '16 10:02:15 PM AtticusOmundson
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* Booker DeWitt in ''VideoGame/BioShockInfinite'' fights both the militants of Columbia and the Vox Populi rebels with little hesitation, as both are powermad and filled with nothing bloodlust.

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* Booker DeWitt in ''VideoGame/BioShockInfinite'' fights both the militants of Columbia and the Vox Populi rebels with little hesitation, as both are powermad and filled with nothing but bloodlust.
17th Apr '16 10:02:10 PM AtticusOmundson
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* Booker DeWitt in ''VideoGame/BioShockInfinite'' fights both the militants of Columbia and the Vox Populi rebels with little hesitation, as both are powermad and filled with nothing bloodlust.
6th Apr '16 1:28:00 AM WearSystem
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** ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIIINocturne'' has several different neutral endings. In the first, if you fight against all three Reasons, but choose to help Yuko, you will ultimately restore the world to its pre-Conception state. In the second, if you if you fight against Yuko as well, or try to help more than one Reason, the power of Kagutsuchi is wasted by your lack of a vision and the Vortex World is doomed to remain as it is for one thousand years before fading entirely. If you complete the Labyrinth of Amala, then no matter what Reasons you were previously supporting, you officially oppose ''everyone'' now, and the game ends with you ending the cycle of creation and destruction forever and marching at the head of Lucifer's army to face YHVH.

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** ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIIINocturne'' has several different neutral endings. In the first, if you fight against all three Reasons, but choose to help Yuko, you will ultimately restore the world to its pre-Conception state. In the second, if you if you fight against Yuko as well, or try to help more than one Reason, the power of Kagutsuchi is wasted by your lack of a vision and the Vortex World is doomed to remain as it is for one thousand years before fading entirely. If you complete the Labyrinth of Amala, then no matter what Reasons you were previously supporting, you officially oppose ''everyone'' now, and the game ends with you ending the cycle of creation and destruction forever and marching at the head of Lucifer's army to face YHVH.
14th Dec '15 9:53:44 PM Vir
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VideoGames that have MultipleEndings sometimes make you [[FactionSpecificEndings pick a side]]. When they do, sometimes you can choose to [[TakeAThirdOption fight against both (or all) sides]], becoming OmnicidalNeutral.

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VideoGames that have MultipleEndings sometimes make you [[FactionSpecificEndings pick a side]]. When they do, sometimes you can choose to [[TakeAThirdOption fight against both (or all) sides]], becoming OmnicidalNeutral.
Omnicidal Neutral.



* ''{{Darksiders}}'': In the war between Heaven and Hell, you officially serve a council that mediates the two but are ''really'' looking for who set you up and taking down anyone in your way, regardless of side. [[spoiler:At the end you turn against the mediating council as well.]]

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* ''{{Darksiders}}'': ''VideoGame/{{Darksiders}}'': In the war between Heaven and Hell, you officially serve a council that mediates the two but are ''really'' looking for who set you up and taking down anyone in your way, regardless of side. [[spoiler:At the end you turn against the mediating council as well.]]



* In ''TheNamelessMod'' Trestkon can side with the Goat cult, the Llama cult, KO/avoid all cult members he fights, or take the suggestion of Phasmatis (who considers the cult wars a hazard to civilians and compares the two to warring gangs) and just get rid of both.

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* In ''TheNamelessMod'' ''VideoGame/TheNamelessMod'' Trestkon can side with the Goat cult, the Llama cult, KO/avoid all cult members he fights, or take the suggestion of Phasmatis (who considers the cult wars a hazard to civilians and compares the two to warring gangs) and just get rid of both.



* FarCry 2 has you killing both the APR and UFLL forces , and destroying both the factions.
** Mostly because [[spoiler: both sides are headed by [[BlackAndBlackMorality homicidal rapist maniacs and dirty looters]], and the people you're really helping as you progress in the plot are pretty much the only force of good in the game, which of whom includes the guy you were supposed to kill.]]

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* FarCry 2 ''VideoGame/FarCry2'' has you killing both the APR and UFLL forces , and destroying both the factions.
** Mostly because [[spoiler: both sides are headed by [[BlackAndBlackMorality [[EvilVersusEvil homicidal rapist maniacs and dirty looters]], and the people you're really helping as you progress in the plot are pretty much the only force of good in the game, which of whom includes the guy you were supposed to kill.]]



* VideoGame/ArmoredCore 4 Answer has this as one of the endings. Instead of fighting for a cause, you can choose to side with [[OmnicidalManiac Old King]] and just kill everyone who crosses your path. Turns out that the whole genocide thing doesn't really go over too well with... well, everyone. You're so despicable that the other factions pull an EnemyMine to try and get rid of you. [[ThatOneLevel If you can pull it off]], you end up as the last man standing, and go on to commit history's worst atrocities and kill hundreds of millions more than you already have.

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* VideoGame/ArmoredCore ''VideoGame/ArmoredCore 4 Answer Answer'' has this as one of the endings. Instead of fighting for a cause, you can choose to side with [[OmnicidalManiac Old King]] and just kill everyone who crosses your path. Turns out that the whole genocide thing doesn't really go over too well with... well, everyone. You're so despicable that the other factions pull an EnemyMine to try and get rid of you. [[ThatOneLevel If you can pull it off]], you end up as the last man standing, and go on to commit history's worst atrocities and kill hundreds of millions more than you already have.



* The suggested but presumably not realised Ultimate Nihilist Ending for ''[[VideoGame/AncientDomainsOfMystery ADOM]]'', which involves neither saving the world nor becoming the new sUpReMe [=ChAoS=] gOd, but rather destroying all existence. Of course, it might as well be seen as StupidEvil or ChaoticStupid. Or just, you know, incomprehensible.

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* The suggested but presumably not realised realized Ultimate Nihilist Ending for ''[[VideoGame/AncientDomainsOfMystery ADOM]]'', which involves neither saving the world nor becoming the new sUpReMe [=ChAoS=] gOd, but rather destroying all existence. Of course, it might as well be seen as StupidEvil or ChaoticStupid. Or just, you know, incomprehensible.



* ''TheWitcher'' has a side plot pitting the [[KnightTemplar Order of the Flaming Rose]] against the [[TheRevolutionWillNotBeCivilized Scoia'tael]]. [[GreyAndGrayMorality Neither faction is especially nice]], so Geralt can choose to fight both rather than siding with either of them. Just be aware that you'll amass quite a body count if you choose to do this. Hey, it's a dark fantasy game, [[AntiHero what]] [[BlackAndGrayMorality did]] [[CrapsackWorld you]] [[FantasticRacism expect]]?

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* ''TheWitcher'' ''VideoGame/TheWitcher'' has a side plot pitting the [[KnightTemplar Order of the Flaming Rose]] against the [[TheRevolutionWillNotBeCivilized Scoia'tael]]. [[GreyAndGrayMorality Neither faction is especially nice]], so Geralt can choose to fight both rather than siding with either of them. Just be aware that you'll amass quite a body count if you choose to do this. Hey, it's a dark fantasy game, [[AntiHero what]] [[BlackAndGrayMorality did]] [[CrapsackWorld you]] [[FantasticRacism expect]]?



* In ''PlanescapeTorment'', one subquest essentially runs like this... a neighborhood is caught in a war between two street-gangs: The 'evil' gang who take money wherever they can get it, and kill for kicks, and the 'good' gang of Robin Hood Wannabes who protect the locals and look out for one another. You can side with either, and push your KarmaMeter appropriately... or you can have a chat with the True Neutral guy who's standing around in an abandoned building, who asks you to take out BOTH gangs, since 'both extremes are equally dangerous'. Taking his quest-line, you basically wipe out both gangs - at once, or one after the other.

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* In ''PlanescapeTorment'', ''VideoGame/PlanescapeTorment'', one subquest essentially runs like this... a neighborhood is caught in a war between two street-gangs: The 'evil' gang who take money wherever they can get it, and kill for kicks, and the 'good' gang of Robin Hood Wannabes who protect the locals and look out for one another. You can side with either, and push your KarmaMeter appropriately... or you can have a chat with the True Neutral guy who's standing around in an abandoned building, who asks you to take out BOTH gangs, since 'both extremes are equally dangerous'. Taking his quest-line, you basically wipe out both gangs - at once, or one after the other.



* Both ''KnightsOfTheOldRepublic'' games present options like this, although in most cases both sides are "evil", for example, the conflict between Uthar and Yuthura in the first game or between the Exchange and Serroco in the second..

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* Both ''KnightsOfTheOldRepublic'' ''VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic'' games present options like this, although in most cases both sides are "evil", for example, the conflict between Uthar and Yuthura in the first game or between the Exchange and Serroco in the second..



* Remaining unaligned and killing everyone is one of the options in ''{{Geneforge}} 2''. It might actually be one of the happiest endings if you don't trigger the sanity meter..

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* Remaining unaligned and killing everyone is one of the options in ''{{Geneforge}} ''VideoGame/{{Geneforge}} 2''. It might actually be one of the happiest endings if you don't trigger the sanity meter..



*** Just [[StupidNeutral not very well]]

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*** Just [[StupidNeutral not very well]]well]].



* This is what happens in the German RPG-Maker Game VideoGame/VampiresDawn 2 in the Evil/Difficult ending: the hero willingly lets himself get possessed by an evil spirit sent by the BigBad, then slaughters his two teammates (who he holds a grudge against for turning him into a vampire without his consent and who he normally couldn't kill because vampires can't kill their sires), then drives out that spirit by sheer will, takes on the BigBad and his [[TheDragon Dragon]], then claims the ArtifactOfDoom and kills the last of the other three main characters when she attempts to stop him. Then he uses it to travel back in time and start a new life instead. It's generally considered one of the best endings in the game, in part due to being sort-of canon and also featuring TheReveal of NarratorAllAlong

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* This is what happens in the German RPG-Maker Game VideoGame/VampiresDawn 2 ''VideoGame/VampiresDawn 2'' in the Evil/Difficult ending: the hero willingly lets himself get possessed by an evil spirit sent by the BigBad, then slaughters his two teammates (who he holds a grudge against for turning him into a vampire without his consent and who he normally couldn't kill because vampires can't kill their sires), then drives out that spirit by sheer will, takes on the BigBad and his [[TheDragon Dragon]], then claims the ArtifactOfDoom and kills the last of the other three main characters when she attempts to stop him. Then he uses it to travel back in time and start a new life instead. It's generally considered one of the best endings in the game, in part due to being sort-of canon and also featuring TheReveal of NarratorAllAlongNarratorAllAlong.



** The [[TakeAThirdOption "Backpath"]] method to beating [[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind Morrowind's]] main quest allows the player to become this. Instead of [[BecauseDestinySaysSo becoming the hero you are supposed to be]], you can say ScrewDestiny and [[spoiler: kill [[PhysicalGod Vivec]], steal the Wraithguard, have [[TheLastOfHisKind Yagrum Bagarn]] "jury rig" it so you can wear it, acquire Keening and Sunder, and destroy the Heart of Lorkhan yourself.]] The only "side" still standing at that point is Azura.
** For Hircine's quest in ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim'', you are required to either hunt Sinding, a werewolf, then skin him and turn his hide into a suit of armor, or protect Sinding from a group of werewolf hunters, which nets you Hircine's Ring (and lets you tranform into a werewolf without the usual one transformation per day limit). It is possible, due to a bug, to protect Sinding from the hunters, kill him and claim his hide, then receive the ring as though Sinding was still alive.

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** The [[TakeAThirdOption "Backpath"]] method to beating [[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind Morrowind's]] ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind Morrowind]]'''s main quest allows the player to become this. Instead of [[BecauseDestinySaysSo becoming the hero you are supposed to be]], you can say ScrewDestiny and [[spoiler: kill [[PhysicalGod Vivec]], steal the Wraithguard, have [[TheLastOfHisKind Yagrum Bagarn]] "jury rig" it so you can wear it, acquire Keening and Sunder, and destroy the Heart of Lorkhan yourself.]] The only "side" still standing at that point is Azura.
** For Hircine's quest in ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim'', ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim Skyrim]]'', you are required to either hunt Sinding, a werewolf, then skin him and turn his hide into a suit of armor, or protect Sinding from a group of werewolf hunters, which nets you Hircine's Ring (and lets you tranform into a werewolf without the usual one transformation per day limit). It is possible, due to a bug, to protect Sinding from the hunters, kill him and claim his hide, then receive the ring as though Sinding was still alive.



* In the ''Fall Of The Samurai'' expansion for ''VideoGame/TotalWarShogun2'', once your clan crosses a certain fame threshold, you can take the lead of either the shogunate or the imperialist faction...or you can say 'screw it' and proclaim yourself the sole rightful ruler of Japan.

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* In the ''Fall Of The of the Samurai'' expansion for ''VideoGame/TotalWarShogun2'', once your clan crosses a certain fame threshold, you can take the lead of either the shogunate or the imperialist faction...or you can say 'screw it' and proclaim yourself the sole rightful ruler of Japan.



* ''VideoGame/{{inFAMOUS}}'' and ''VideoGame/{{inFAMOUS 2}}'' has a special kind of this. '''Capturing''' bad guys will get your karma-o-meter to hero, killing civilians will make your karma go red and you'll be attacked by both civilians and mooks, but '''killing''' the mooks alongside the civilians will provide you with more bad karma and get you loathed by everyone in the world, making you an omnicidal not-so-neutral.
* In the ''[[Videogame/{{X}} X-Universe]]'', once the player has essentially become a NGOSuperPower, it's possible to effectively wipe out an entire race, though doing so isn't particularly recommended because it brings the game's economy crashing down unless you fill in the eliminated race's lost production. You can wipe out ''everyone'' besides the [[HardCodedHostility Kha'ak]]. On the other hand, the game will slowly try to bring the race back by spawning in space stations and ships, though the Sector Takeover GameMod allows you to truly wipe out a species.

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* ''VideoGame/{{inFAMOUS}}'' ''VideoGame/InFamous'' and ''VideoGame/{{inFAMOUS 2}}'' ''VideoGame/InFamous2'' has a special kind of this. '''Capturing''' bad guys will get your karma-o-meter to hero, killing civilians will make your karma go red and you'll be attacked by both civilians and mooks, but '''killing''' the mooks alongside the civilians will provide you with more bad karma and get you loathed by everyone in the world, making you an omnicidal not-so-neutral.
* In the ''[[Videogame/{{X}} ''[[VideoGame/{{X}} X-Universe]]'', once the player has essentially become a NGOSuperPower, it's possible to effectively wipe out an entire race, though doing so isn't particularly recommended because it brings the game's economy crashing down unless you fill in the eliminated race's lost production. You can wipe out ''everyone'' besides the [[HardCodedHostility Kha'ak]]. On the other hand, the game will slowly try to bring the race back by spawning in space stations and ships, though the Sector Takeover GameMod allows you to truly wipe out a species.



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* Creator/KeithLaumer's ''Dinosaur Beach'' demonstrates an extreme, but [[IDidWhatIHadToDo ultimately heroic]], version of this trope. The setting has been deeply screwed up by the invention of time travel, with each faction trying to prevent any time travel in its "future," but at the same time trying to prevent the prevention of time travel in its "past," since all of them are the futures of factions that were unable to prevent time travel, and none of them wish to be [[{{Retgone}} erased from the timestream]]. Meanwhile, each time trip is making the fabric of reality less and less stable. [[spoiler:The main character's solution is to travel back and prevent the invention of time travel, preventing the collapse of the universe at the cost of the lives and existences of every member of every faction in the book. He's one of only two characters, named or unnamed, who comes from a future timeline but still exists at the story's close.]]

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* Creator/KeithLaumer's ''Dinosaur Beach'' demonstrates an extreme, but [[IDidWhatIHadToDo ultimately heroic]], version of this trope. The setting has been deeply screwed up by the invention of time travel, with each faction trying to prevent any time travel in its "future," but at the same time trying to prevent the prevention of time travel in its "past," since all of them are the futures of factions that were unable to prevent time travel, and none of them wish to be [[{{Retgone}} [[RetGone erased from the timestream]]. Meanwhile, each time trip is making the fabric of reality less and less stable. [[spoiler:The main character's solution is to travel back and prevent the invention of time travel, preventing the collapse of the universe at the cost of the lives and existences of every member of every faction in the book. He's one of only two characters, named or unnamed, who comes from a future timeline but still exists at the story's close.]]



* Equinox from WesternAnimation/BatmanTheBraveAndTheBold eventually graduates from merely StupidNeutral to this when he decides he has to destroy the world so that he can remake it according to his own definition of "balance."
* Near the end of Literature/TheLastBattle, the dwarves attack both sides of the battle, having rejected either ideology and sticking for themselves only. [[spoiler:It doesn't end well for them.]]

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* Equinox from WesternAnimation/BatmanTheBraveAndTheBold ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheBraveAndTheBold'' eventually graduates from merely StupidNeutral to this when he decides he has to destroy the world so that he can remake it according to his own definition of "balance."
* Near the end of Literature/TheLastBattle, ''Literature/TheLastBattle'', the dwarves attack both sides of the battle, having rejected either ideology and sticking for themselves only. [[spoiler:It doesn't end well for them.]]
26th Nov '15 5:27:42 PM nombretomado
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* This tends to be Masamune's story path in the ''SamuraiWarriors'' game - his modus operandi is to show up mid-battle, kick ass on both sides, and the declare himself the winner.

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* This tends to be Masamune's story path in the ''SamuraiWarriors'' ''VideoGame/SamuraiWarriors'' game - his modus operandi is to show up mid-battle, kick ass on both sides, and the declare himself the winner.
25th Jul '15 10:00:29 AM eroock
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->I'm headed for Purgatory when I die. Heaven won't take me, and Hell is afraid I'll take over.
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->I'm ->''"I'm headed for Purgatory when I die. Heaven won't take me, and Hell is afraid I'll take over.
-->'''--Bumper
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-->-- '''Bumper
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2nd Jul '15 3:41:20 AM catmuto
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** In ''VideoGame/DevilSurvivor2'', pretty much no matter what route you pick, you will have to fight against the two other fractions that your team has split up in before proceeding. And picking the [[GuideDangIt fourth route]] pits you against all ''three'' fractions.
*** Particular mention goes to the Liberator Route on [[NeutralGood Daichi]]'s path. In this path, you decide to simply kill [[spoiler: Polaris, without anyone taking Polaris' place as the creator of the universe]] which results in the world being static in its current state. By going this particular path, the black scar that is eating the world disappears, but all that is left is a small piece of land surrounded by an endless ocean with undrinkable water. And there is ''no'' divine deity anymore that can either manipulate or save you from this.
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