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** Biscuit Krueger is a subversion, as she's in her late 50s but [[OlderThanTheyLook uses her powers to resemble a young girl]], and even in her [[AmazonianBeauty true form]] she doesn't look older than mid-30. She was a master of Nen as well as Netero's style of kung-fu, and trained Gon & Killua throughout the Greed Island and Chimera Ant arcs.

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** Biscuit Krueger is a subversion, as she's in her late 50s but [[OlderThanTheyLook [[VainSorceress uses her powers to resemble a young girl]], and even in her [[AmazonianBeauty true form]] form she doesn't look older than mid-30. She was a master of Nen as well as Netero's style of kung-fu, and trained Gon & Killua throughout the Greed Island and Chimera Ant arcs.
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* In ''WesternAnimation/TurningRed'', Mr. Gao has had 50 years of experience as a shaman, and is implied to be the same age as, if not older than, Mei's grandmother.
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* ''Fanfic/VowOfNudity'': The old Firbolg slave who trains Haara in the flashbacks. Haara never learns his full power level, but his daily duties are always finished despite nobody ever seeing him working, he's able to seemingly appear anywhere he wants at any time, and nobody even knows the full roster of disciples he's tutoring at any given time. And this is all *despite* him wearing a magic-nullifying armband for being a known spellcaster.

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* ''Fanfic/VowOfNudity'': The old Firbolg slave who trains Haara in the flashbacks. Haara never learns his full power level, but his daily duties are always finished despite nobody ever seeing him working, he's able to seemingly appear anywhere he wants at any time, and nobody even knows the full roster of disciples he's tutoring at any given time. And this is all *despite* ''despite'' him wearing a magic-nullifying armband for being a known spellcaster.
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* ''Fanfic/VowOfNudity'': The old Firbolg slave who trains Haara in the flashbacks. Haara never learns his full power level, but his daily duties are always finished despite nobody ever seeing him working, he's able to seemingly appear anywhere he wants at any time, and nobody even knows the full roster of disciples he's tutoring at any given time. And this is all *despite* him wearing a magic-nullifying armband for being a known spellcaster.
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* ''Anime/MobileFighterGGundam'': Master Asia's not as old as he looks [[note]] Apparently the IncurableCoughOfDeath somehow makes him look older than his actual age of 50. [[/note]] but he is still past his prime and the Grand Master of the School of the Undefeated of the East. He can effortlessly catch cannonballs and demolish HumongousMecha with his bare hands, and when putting forth some actual effort can punch a ''skyscraper'' hard enough to launch it into the air. While ''G Gundam'' is a WorldOfBadass, virtually no one else is ''that'' badass. In fact, he's ''so badass'' that his use of the Master Gundam is him basically ''[[WillfullyWeak handicapping himself]]''.

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* ''Anime/MobileFighterGGundam'': Master Asia's not as old as he looks [[note]] Apparently the IncurableCoughOfDeath somehow makes him look older than his actual age of 50. [[/note]] but he is still past his prime and the Grand Master of the School of the Undefeated of the East. He can effortlessly catch cannonballs and demolish HumongousMecha with his bare hands, and when putting forth some actual effort can punch a ''skyscraper'' hard enough to launch it into the air. While ''G Gundam'' is a WorldOfBadass, virtually no one else is ''that'' badass. In fact, he's ''so badass'' that his use of the Master Gundam is him basically ''[[WillfullyWeak handicapping himself]]''.[[note]]His real Gundam is an unseen one called the King of Hearts, but he never uses it because if he did, he'd probably be unbeatable.[[/note]]
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** The series has the Greybeards, masters of the [[MakeMeWannaShout Thu'um]] (the [[OurDragonsAreDifferent draconic]] LanguageOfMagic). The Greybeards have trained their voices to such an incredible extent that even a misplaced whisper could kill a person. They play a major part in ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim Skyrim]]'', where they summon the [[PlayerCharacter Dragonborn]] to High Hrothgar, their monastery on the Throat of the World, the tallest mountain in Tamriel, for training in the Thu'um. When they greet the Dragonborn with a politely whispered "Dovahkiin", ''the whole mountain shakes'' from the force of it. Even when they speak in full voice to summon the Dragonborn to High Hrothgar, ''all of Skyrim hears it''. It should be noted that this [[GamePlayAndStoryIntegration isn't just lore fluff]], the four Greybeards are some of the highest level-[=NPCs=] in the game, with Arngeir sitting pretty at level 150.

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** The series has the Greybeards, masters of the [[MakeMeWannaShout Thu'um]] (the [[OurDragonsAreDifferent draconic]] LanguageOfMagic). The Greybeards have trained their voices to such an incredible extent that even a misplaced whisper could kill a person. They play a major part in ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim Skyrim]]'', where they summon the [[PlayerCharacter Dragonborn]] to High Hrothgar, their monastery on the Throat of the World, the tallest mountain in Tamriel, for training in the Thu'um. When they greet the Dragonborn with a politely whispered "Dovahkiin", ''the whole mountain shakes'' from the force of it. Even when When they speak in full voice to summon the Dragonborn to High Hrothgar, ''all of Skyrim hears it''. It should be noted that this [[GamePlayAndStoryIntegration isn't just lore fluff]], the four Greybeards are some of the highest level-[=NPCs=] in the game, with Arngeir sitting pretty at level 150.
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** Granny's grandmother, Alison Weatherwax, is implied to have been as powerful, if not more so - when she was even older than Granny at the time, she went out to Uberwald and encountered the previous Count Magpyr. He was a very old master vampire, the stronger and subtly smarter uncle of the very powerful and dangerously intelligent Count Magpyr of ''Literature/CarpeJugulum''. She beat him in a fair fight and rammed a stake through his heart. She was ''75''. Even Granny is impressed by that, and filled with a certain family pride, implying that he'd have been a far harder opponent than the younger Count. For context, he nearly destroyed her, both physically and mentally, and she had to resort to [[spoiler: putting her mind into her own blood, let the entire clan of vampires drink it, [[MustBeInvited tricking them into inviting her in]]. As she says with some satisfaction - "I ain't been vampired. You've been Weatherwaxed." While brilliant, she admitted she was forced to do it because she couldn't beat him in a straight fight, and she was also backed up by a vengeful [[spoiler: phoenix]] and a priest who'd just become a BadassPreacher. With that in mind, Alison's feat is all the more impressive.

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** Granny's grandmother, Alison Weatherwax, is implied to have been as powerful, if not more so - when she was even older than Granny at the time, she went out to Uberwald and encountered the previous Count Magpyr. He was a very old master vampire, the stronger and subtly smarter uncle of the very powerful and dangerously intelligent Count Magpyr of ''Literature/CarpeJugulum''. She beat him in a fair fight and rammed a stake through his heart. She was ''75''. Even Granny is impressed by that, and filled with a certain family pride, implying that he'd have been a far harder opponent than the younger Count. For context, he nearly destroyed her, both physically and mentally, and she had to resort to [[spoiler: putting her mind into her own blood, let the entire clan of vampires drink it, [[MustBeInvited tricking them into inviting her in]]. As she says with some satisfaction - "I ain't been vampired. You've been Weatherwaxed." "]] While brilliant, she admitted she was forced to do it because she couldn't beat him in a straight fight, and she was also backed up by a vengeful [[spoiler: phoenix]] and a priest who'd just become a BadassPreacher. With that in mind, Alison's feat is all the more impressive.
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* As of ''Film/TopGunMaverick'', Mav has become this. With over forty years of piloting experience under his belt, he's good enough to fly circles around his students, all of whom were top of their class in TOPGUN just like he and Iceman were back in their day.

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* As of ''Film/TopGunMaverick'', Mav has become this. With over forty years of piloting experience under his belt, he's good enough to fly circles around his students, all of whom were top of their class in TOPGUN just like students; after deciding the young hotshots need to be taken down a peg, he proceeds to thrash them two-on-one... again, and Iceman were back in their day.again, and again. All while set to the glorious strains of Music/TheWho's "Won't Get Fooled Again".
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* Maria Calavera frmo ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'' is a very elderly and blind huntress who was once the Grimm Reaper. Through both her skill and her immensely powerful silver eyes, she rose to become a legendary huntress, until she was blinded and went into retirement following an encounter with mercenaries implicitly hired by the BigBad. She doesn't do much fighting, but gives Ruby advice on how to use the power of ''her'' silver eyes. She does eventually fight in volume 8, [[spoiler:taking on Neopolitan, who up until that point has been one of the show's best fighters. Maria fights her off with one arm behind her back, laughing like she's having the time of her life]].

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* Maria Calavera frmo from ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'' is a very elderly and blind huntress who was once the Grimm Reaper. Through both her skill and her immensely powerful silver eyes, she rose to become a legendary huntress, until she was blinded and went into retirement following an encounter with mercenaries implicitly hired by the BigBad. She doesn't do much fighting, but gives Ruby advice on how to use the power of ''her'' silver eyes. She does eventually fight in volume 8, [[spoiler:taking on Neopolitan, who up until that point has been one of the show's best fighters. Maria fights her off with one arm behind her back, laughing like she's having the time of her life]].
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* Maria Calavera frmo ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'' is a very elderly and blind huntress who was once the Grimm Reaper. Through both her skill and her immensely powerful silver eyes, she rose to become a legendary huntress, until she was blinded and went into retirement following an encounter with mercenaries implicitly hired by the BigBad. She doesn't do much fighting, but gives Ruby advice on how to use the power of ''her'' silver eyes. She does eventually fight in volume 8, [[spoiler:taking on Neopolitan, who up until that point has been one of the show's best fighters. Maria fights her off with one arm behind her back, laughing like she's having the time of her life]].
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* Sensei Wu in ''WesternAnimation/{{Ninjago}}''. He can beat up attackers with just an [[SimpleStaff old bamboo staff]] despite his old age. Not to mention that he knows [[FantasticFightingStyle spinjitsu]] better than just about anybody.

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* Sensei Wu in ''WesternAnimation/{{Ninjago}}''. He can beat up attackers with just an [[SimpleStaff [[MartialArtsStaff old bamboo staff]] despite his old age. Not to mention that he knows [[FantasticFightingStyle spinjitsu]] better than just about anybody.
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* Saisyu Kusanagi, Chin Gensai, Takuma Sakazaki, and a number of others from ''VideoGame/TheKingOfFighters''. Several of them got together to form the Old Man Team one year: Saisyu, Takuma and ColonelBadass Heidern (despite them not being ''that'' old, compared to Chin). In ''KOF 2002 Unlimited Match'', Chin joins the team in Saisyu's place, due to the game being a dream match for the ''99'' to ''2002'' editions and Bao occupying his position in the Psycho Soldier team. Lampshaded with their theme song, ''In Spite of One's Age'', a soft and relaxing tune. You may want to hear the [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-ZWxCCkjew '98 version,]] and [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHbjU6D1gcU 2002 Unlimited Match version.]]

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* Saisyu Kusanagi, Chin Gensai, Takuma Sakazaki, and a number of others from ''VideoGame/TheKingOfFighters''. Several Three of them got together even team up in ''98'' to form the Old Man Team one year: Masters Team: Saisyu, Takuma and ColonelBadass Heidern (despite them not being ''that'' old, compared to Chin). In ''KOF 2002 Unlimited Match'', Chin joins the team in Saisyu's place, due to the game being a dream match for the ''99'' to ''2002'' editions and Bao occupying his position in the Psycho Soldier team. Lampshaded with their theme song, ''In Spite of One's Age'', a soft and relaxing tune. You may want to hear the [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-ZWxCCkjew '98 version,]] and [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHbjU6D1gcU 2002 Unlimited Match version.]]

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* The Master from ''VideoGame/PaperMario''. While he appears to be asthmatic and weak, when he goes quite literally Super Saiyan on Mario, he turns out to be quite possibly the game's hardest foe.
* ''VideoGame/ParappaTheRapper'': Chop Chop Master Onion, anyone?

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* In ''VideoGame/PokemonRedAndBlue'', there was originally going to be a battle with Prof. Oak, who apparently keeps the Pokémon neither you nor your rival chooses. He would have been the strongest Trainer in the game - even better than the Champion - but, for some reason, the battle was dummied out. However, using a VideoGame/GameShark, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7u2AbkkJ5I the battle]] can still be accessed.

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In ''VideoGame/PokemonRedAndBlue'', there was originally going to be a battle with Prof. Oak, who apparently keeps the Pokémon neither you nor your rival chooses. He would have been the strongest Trainer in the game - even better than the Champion - but, for some reason, the battle was dummied out. However, using a VideoGame/GameShark, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7u2AbkkJ5I the battle]] can still be accessed.


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** ''VideoGame/PaperMario'': The Master. While he appears to be asthmatic and weak, when he goes quite literally Super Saiyan on Mario, he turns out to be quite possibly the game's hardest foe.
** ''VideoGame/MarioParty7'': The Star Space on Pagoda Peak is overseen by a wise old Koopa kung fu master.
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** The [[''VideoGame/Yakuza2'' sequel]] adds Granny White, an elderly woman who trained (''and''kicked the asses of) Lau Ka Long and the Snake Flower Triad.

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** The [[''VideoGame/Yakuza2'' sequel]] ''VideoGame/Yakuza2'' adds Granny White, an elderly woman who trained (''and''kicked (''and'' kicked the asses of) Lau Ka Long and the Snake Flower Triad.
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*** Also from ''XIV'' is Hamon Holyfist, the leader of the Pugilists' Guild in Ul'dah. While advanced in age and given to lechery, he is guildmaster for a very good reason.
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* ''Anime/MobileFighterGGundam'': Master Asia's not as old as he looks [[note]] Apparently the IncurableCoughOfDeath somehow makes him look older than his actual age of 50. [[/note]] but he is still past his prime and the Grand Master of the School of the Undefeated of the East. He can effortlessly catch cannonballs and demolish HumongousMecha with his bare hands, and when putting forth some actual effort can punch a ''skyscraper'' hard enough to launch it into the air. While ''G Gundam'' is a WorldOfBadass, virtually no one else is ''that'' badass.

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* ''Anime/MobileFighterGGundam'': Master Asia's not as old as he looks [[note]] Apparently the IncurableCoughOfDeath somehow makes him look older than his actual age of 50. [[/note]] but he is still past his prime and the Grand Master of the School of the Undefeated of the East. He can effortlessly catch cannonballs and demolish HumongousMecha with his bare hands, and when putting forth some actual effort can punch a ''skyscraper'' hard enough to launch it into the air. While ''G Gundam'' is a WorldOfBadass, virtually no one else is ''that'' badass. In fact, he's ''so badass'' that his use of the Master Gundam is him basically ''[[WillfullyWeak handicapping himself]]''.
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* ''Film/{{Red}}'' appears to be this, with a team of retired black-ops investigating their former employer. The designation itself stands for '''R'''etired, '''E'''xtremely '''D'''angerous.

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* ''Film/{{Red}}'' ''Film/Red2010'' appears to be this, with a team of retired black-ops investigating their former employer. The designation itself stands for '''R'''etired, '''E'''xtremely '''D'''angerous.
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* As of ''Film/TopGunMaverick'', Mav has become this. With over forty years of piloting experience under his belt, he's good enough to fly circles around his students, all of whom were top of their class in TOPGUN just like he and Iceman were back in their day.
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* ''Film/TheMaskOfZorro'' has Don Diego de la Vega, the original Zorro; he's getting along in years and has spent 20 years in prison by the time of the present events, but he has lost none of his skill, training Alejandro to become the next Zorro and trading blows with his ArchEnemy Don Rafael.
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* TheMaster in ''VideoGame/DestroyAllHumans: Path of the Furon'', who is a parody of [[Series/KungFu Master Po]].

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* TheMaster in ''VideoGame/DestroyAllHumans: Path of the Furon'', who is a parody of [[Series/KungFu [[Series/KungFu1972 Master Po]].
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* Grasshopper, Master Po from ''Series/KungFu'', surely one of the TropeMakers of the Old Master, and owner/operator of a DisabilitySuperpower to boot. Or The Ancient One from ''Kung Fu The Legend Continues'', who might have been several hundred years old.

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* Grasshopper, Master Po from ''Series/KungFu'', ''Series/KungFu1972'', surely one of the TropeMakers of the Old Master, and owner/operator of a DisabilitySuperpower to boot. Or The Ancient One from ''Kung Fu The Legend Continues'', who might have been several hundred years old.

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* Monks in ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'' eventually gain Timeless Body, which means that while they still visibly age they take no penalties for aging and are every bit as physically powerful as they were at their prime. At the level a monk gains that ability he/she is also not to be trifled with, or at least not unless [[TierInducedScrappy you're pretty much any other class at the same level]].
* In ''TabletopGame/{{Exalted}}'', Sidereals will eventually become this, if they aren't already. They know the best SupernaturalMartialArts there are (that ''only'' they can learn), they rely on subtle but masterful measures, their non-martial-arts powers require esoteric wisdom to make good use of, and they keep low profile-- though that last one is a magically enforced rule of reality.
* The Old Master archetype from ''TabletopGame/FengShui'' has the highest starting Martial Arts and Chi scores of the whole archetype list and five Fu Schticks, and though he only starts with a Body score of 4, his Unique Schtick allows him to use unarmed attacks to wallop characters with 10 base damage (equivalent of Body 8 or 9). You just know it's a bad move to mess with him.
* The Archangel Michael is the second or third oldest angel in the universe in ''TabletopGame/InNomine'' -- and since he's also the Archangel of ''War'', he can take down just about any opponent or group of opponents you care to name. After he personally booted his older brother Lucifer out of Heaven, the rest of the demonic army [[OhCrap decided to show itself out.]]
* Sebastian Crenshaw from ''TabletopGame/MutantChronicles''. P55 years old in a universe where average life expectancy is 40, but still the Solar system's most skilled assassin, swordsman and martial artist.

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* ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'': Monks in ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'' eventually gain Timeless Body, which means that that, while they still visibly age age, they take no penalties for aging and are remain every bit as physically powerful as they were at their prime. At the level a monk gains that ability he/she is also not to be trifled with, or at least not unless [[TierInducedScrappy you're pretty much any other class at the same level]].
* In ''TabletopGame/{{Exalted}}'', ''TabletopGame/{{Exalted}}'': Sidereals will eventually become this, if they aren't already. They know the best SupernaturalMartialArts there are (that ''only'' they can learn), they rely on subtle but masterful measures, their non-martial-arts powers require esoteric wisdom to make good use of, and they keep low profile-- though that last one is a magically enforced rule of reality.
* ''TabletopGame/FengShui'': The Old Master archetype from ''TabletopGame/FengShui'' has the highest starting Martial Arts and Chi scores of the whole archetype list and five Fu Schticks, and though he only starts with a Body score of 4, his Unique Schtick allows him to use unarmed attacks to wallop characters with 10 base damage (equivalent of Body 8 or 9). You just know it's a bad move to mess with him.
* ''TabletopGame/InNomine'': The Archangel Michael is the second or third oldest angel in the universe in ''TabletopGame/InNomine'' -- and and, since he's also the Archangel of ''War'', he can take down just about any opponent or group of opponents you care to name. After he personally booted his older brother Lucifer out of Heaven, the rest of the demonic army [[OhCrap decided to show itself out.]]
* ''TabletopGame/MutantChronicles'': Sebastian Crenshaw from ''TabletopGame/MutantChronicles''. P55 is 55 years old in a universe where average life expectancy is 40, but still the Solar system's System's most skilled assassin, swordsman and martial artist.artist.
* ''TabletopGame/SentinelsOfTheMultiverse'':
** Mister Fixer is a devastatingly skilled martial artist who WordOfGod holds is the most skilled martial artist in the setting (other people might hit harder, but they usually use superpowers to do it) - and [[BlindWeaponmaster being blind]] doesn't slow him down. Originally conceived in-universe as a {{Blaxploitation}} / kung fu FadSuper when those were the new hotness, ReimaginingTheArtifact positioned that as the exuberance of youth, with the years since then having left him as a beaten-down old man with a few extra decades of regrets, coming out of retirement to take on the crime syndicate poisoning his city - with his skills as sharp as ever, even though he's set aside his bo staves and nunchaku in favour of [[ImprobableWeaponUser tyre irons, jack handles and crowbars]].
** John Rhodes, aka The Scholar, is a friendly-looking older man who typically wears a bathrobe and gives off strong Creator/JeffBridges vibes. He's over a hundred years old, not that he looks it, and is possibly the most skilled true alchemist in the world.



* ''TabletopGame/SentinelsOfTheMultiverse'':
** Mister Fixer is a devastatingly skilled martial artist who WordOfGod holds is the most skilled martial artist in the setting (other people might hit harder, but they usually use superpowers to do it) - and [[BlindWeaponmaster being blind]] doesn't slow him down. Originally conceived in-universe as a {{Blaxploitation}} / kung fu FadSuper when those were the new hotness, ReimaginingTheArtifact positioned that as the exuberance of youth, with the years since then having left him as a beaten-down old man with a few extra decades of regrets, coming out of retirement to take on the crime syndicate poisoning his city - with his skills as sharp as ever, even though he's set aside his bo staves and nunchaku in favour of [[ImprobableWeaponUser tyre irons, jack handles and crowbars]].
** John Rhodes, aka The Scholar, is a friendly-looking older man who typically wears a bathrobe and gives off strong Creator/JeffBridges vibes. He's over a hundred years old, not that he looks it, and is possibly the most skilled true alchemist in the world.
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* ''Franchise/MassEffect'': Beware of any [[ProudWarriorRace krogan]] who has lived past the age of 1,000. Since krogan are predisposed to spend their lives in combat, very few of them reach old age... and those that ''do'' have probably seen more battles than every human in an army put together. Such krogan are often known as "Battlemasters" and are considered some of the most dangerous warriors in all of existence. Asari matriarchs (from a race that lives just as long as Krogan) tend to also qualify, although they're less likely to be front-line specialists.

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* ''VideoGame/EXTRAPOWERAttackOfDarkforce'': Old man Roshi is an old karate master, now living in hermitage. His guardianship over Kojiro is why he's an excellent, [[ArrogantKungFuGuy if arrogant]], martial artist today, and his skills haven't dulled with age. Unfortunately, [[MentorOccupationalHazard he gets done in]] when an enhanced HalfHumanHybrid is brought into the equation.
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* ''TabletopGame/SentinelsOfTheMultiverse'':
** Mister Fixer is a devastatingly skilled martial artist who WordOfGod holds is the most skilled martial artist in the setting (other people might hit harder, but they usually use superpowers to do it) - and [[BlindWeaponmaster being blind]] doesn't slow him down. Originally conceived in-universe as a {{Blaxploitation}} / kung fu FadSuper when those were the new hotness, ReimaginingTheArtifact positioned that as the exuberance of youth, with the years since then having left him as a beaten-down old man with a few extra decades of regrets, coming out of retirement to take on the crime syndicate poisoning his city - with his skills as sharp as ever, even though he's set aside his bo staves and nunchaku in favour of [[ImprobableWeaponUser tyre irons, jack handles and crowbars]].
** John Rhodes, aka The Scholar, is a friendly-looking older man who typically wears a bathrobe and gives off strong Creator/JeffBridges vibes. He's over a hundred years old, not that he looks it, and is possibly the most skilled true alchemist in the world.

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* ''Literature/TheBelgariad'': Belgarath, sure he looks like a scruffy old vagabond, but he's also [[ReallySevenHundredYearsOld 7000 years old]] and the single most powerful sorcerer EVER. The BigBad's followers consider him to be {{Satan}} and need a change of underwear at the mention of his name.
** The other Disciples of Aldur are no slouches either. Or even the Disciples of Torak. No one with that much power and age (and thus knowledge and, hopefully, wisdom) should be underestimated.

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* ''Literature/TheBelgariad'': Belgarath, sure he looks like a scruffy old vagabond, but he's also [[ReallySevenHundredYearsOld 7000 years old]] and barring TheChosenOne, he's the single most powerful sorcerer EVER.EVER. As in, once, he got annoyed with a hammer and threw it away. Up, up, and away. Into space. That was several thousand years before the story, and apparently it's still going. The BigBad's followers consider him to be {{Satan}} and need a change of underwear at the mention of his name.
** The other Disciples of Aldur are no slouches either. Or even the Disciples of Torak.Torak - Ctuchik managed to go toe to toe with the aforementioned Belgarath and gave him what the prequel reveals to have been the toughest fight in his entire life. No one with that much power and age (and thus knowledge and, hopefully, wisdom) should be underestimated.



** Cohen the Barbarian, the greatest (and oldest) barbarian hero in the world. Those who underestimate him because of his age don't realize that living to be over seventy in a dangerous profession such as barbarian heroism means he's ''good'' at it. The book ''Literature/InterestingTimes'' introduces the Silver Horde, a group consisting of Cohen and some of his fellow elderly barbarians, all of whom are still incredibly dangerous (despite one of them being in a wheelchair). The seven of them conquer a continent roughly analogous to China. This is shown to be a mix of being so experienced that they don't ''have'' to be fast to win and being masters of CombatPragmatism.

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** Cohen the Barbarian, the greatest (and oldest) barbarian hero in the world. Those who underestimate him because of his age don't realize that living to be over seventy in a dangerous profession such as barbarian heroism means he's ''good'' at it. The book ''Literature/InterestingTimes'' introduces the Silver Horde, a group consisting of Cohen and some of his fellow elderly barbarians, all of whom are still incredibly dangerous (despite one of them being in a wheelchair). The seven of them conquer a continent roughly analogous to China. This is shown to be a mix of being so experienced that they don't ''have'' to be fast to win and being masters of CombatPragmatism.CombatPragmatism (though this is later shown to have some limits - especially when forced into a battle of attrition. They can slaughter plenty of {{Mooks}}, but they get tired much faster than they used to).



'''Six Beneficient Winds:''' Oh, my...\\

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'''Six Beneficient Winds:''' *as the penny starts to drop* Oh, my...\\



** Lu-Tze, first appeared in ''Literature/SmallGods'', but really got to strut his stuff in ''Literature/ThiefOfTime''. And Lu-Tze ''mastered'' the technique (mentioned with Cohen earlier) of letting his reputation precede him: particularly ''Rule #1''. Because, although he rarely uses it, Lu-Tze has the capability to knock even [[spoiler:the personification of Time]] for a loop.

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** Lu-Tze, first appeared in ''Literature/SmallGods'', but really got to strut his stuff in ''Literature/ThiefOfTime''. And Lu-Tze ''mastered'' the technique (mentioned with Cohen earlier) of letting his reputation precede him: particularly ''Rule #1''. Because, although he rarely uses it, Lu-Tze has the capability to knock even [[spoiler:the [[spoiler: ''[[PhysicalGod the personification of Time]] Time]]'']] for a loop.



** On another branch is Granny Weatherwax. What she lacks in physical skills ([[BadassBookworm which is less than you might think - she's deadly with a hairpin]]), she more than makes up for in her knowledge of Discworld psychology (or "headology", as she puts it). She is no less a master of reputation than Cohen or Lu-Tze, and reputation and psychology are her primary weapons. Like Lu-Tze, everyone questions whether she is a real witch, but she has shown the ability (if not the eagerness) to perform very powerful magic when she really needs it. Such as when she moved the entire kingdom of Lancre forward in time 15 years (in ''Literature/WyrdSisters'').
** Pretty much any of the wizards (except maybe the Bursar), because while they appear to be old, fat, and a maybe slightly demented, they've all gotten old and fat while surviving the [[KlingonPromotion unbridled ambitions]] of both their companions of age, and much younger, fitter wizards.

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** On another branch is Granny Esmerelda 'Granny' Weatherwax. What she lacks in physical skills ([[BadassBookworm which is less than you might think - she's deadly with a hairpin]]), hatpin]]), she more than makes up for in her knowledge of Discworld psychology (or "headology", as she puts it). She is no less a master of reputation than Cohen or Lu-Tze, and reputation and psychology are her primary weapons. Like Lu-Tze, everyone questions whether she is a real witch, but she has shown the ability (if not the eagerness) to perform very powerful magic when she really needs it. In fact, the main cited reason she doesn't use it is because she knows how good she'd be at it. When she does use magic, it tends to be subtly and turning an enemy's strengths against them - such as when she casually turns a very powerful Voodoo practitioner's [[SympatheticMagic doll]] against her by sticking her hand in a torch, making the effect travel down the link to the doll, which burns up. As the the other witch says, dazed, Lily Weatherwax (Esme's apparently more powerful older sister) spent ten years trying to overpower her - Esme didn't even have to sweat. That being said, when raw power is required, she's more than capable. Such as when she moved the entire kingdom of Lancre forward in time 15 years (in ''Literature/WyrdSisters'').
** Granny's grandmother, Alison Weatherwax, is implied to have been as powerful, if not more so - when she was even older than Granny at the time, she went out to Uberwald and encountered the previous Count Magpyr. He was a very old master vampire, the stronger and subtly smarter uncle of the very powerful and dangerously intelligent Count Magpyr of ''Literature/CarpeJugulum''. She beat him in a fair fight and rammed a stake through his heart. She was ''75''. Even Granny is impressed by that, and filled with a certain family pride, implying that he'd have been a far harder opponent than the younger Count. For context, he nearly destroyed her, both physically and mentally, and she had to resort to [[spoiler: putting her mind into her own blood, let the entire clan of vampires drink it, [[MustBeInvited tricking them into inviting her in]]. As she says with some satisfaction - "I ain't been vampired. You've been Weatherwaxed." While brilliant, she admitted she was forced to do it because she couldn't beat him in a straight fight, and she was also backed up by a vengeful [[spoiler: phoenix]] and a priest who'd just become a BadassPreacher. With that in mind, Alison's feat is all the more impressive.
** Pretty much any of the wizards (except maybe the Bursar), because while they appear to be old, fat, and a maybe slightly demented, they've all gotten old and fat while surviving the [[KlingonPromotion unbridled ambitions]] of both their companions of age, and much younger, fitter wizards. Ridcully is a particular example, having proved to be essentially unkillable (thus ending the habit of KlingonPromotion), as well as being a BoisterousBruiser who does things like go three rounds bare-knuckle boxing with trolls (who are ''made of rock'').



*** The leader, Arthur Langtry, is called the Merlin and is the strongest of the lot. A master of defensive magics, he once created a barrier ward on the fly to hold back [[spoiler:an entire court of evil vampires and monsters from beyond the universe]]. The most impressive aspect is the wards need to be grounded by some threshold, like the one guarding a home. Lacking one means the ward's strength is reduced greatly. So, even without that essential quality to make a good ward, he maintains one against an incredible danger.
*** Ebenezer [=McCoy=] is one of the youngest members. He once nearly killed a vampire by just clutching his fist and Force-choking her with no effort on his part. He destroys enemy bases by [[spoiler:dropping old satellites orbiting in space on them]]. Professional smartass Harry Dresden [[RespectedByTheRespected addresses him as, "sir".]]
*** Ancient Mai, a miniature senior citizen type, has an incredibly sharp intellect and deduction capabilities. What is known is limited, but when the hero Harry Dresden sees her escort of battle harden Wardens, magical soldiers trained to kill other mages and dark things, one is holding her umbrella. She has made guardian statues able to detect dark magic.
*** Joseph "Injun Joe" Listens-to-Winds is a Native American shaman, best healer in the Council, regularly goes back to med school every ten years to see what new things have come about, and is a master of shapeshifting, having once [[spoiler:sent a walking physical god running in fear of its destruction after a shapeshifting battle]].

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*** The leader, Arthur Langtry, is called the Merlin and is the strongest of the lot. A master of defensive magics, he once created a barrier ward on the fly to hold back [[spoiler:an entire court of evil vampires and monsters from beyond the universe]]. The most impressive aspect is the wards need to be grounded by some threshold, like the one guarding a home. Lacking one means the ward's strength is reduced greatly. So, even without that essential quality to make a good ward, he maintains one against a threat that includes multiple beings that successfully [[GodGuise faked godhood for thousands of years through raw power]] leading an incredible danger.
''army'' of monsters and {{Eldritch Abomination}}s.
*** Ebenezer [=McCoy=] is one of the youngest members. He once nearly killed a vampire by just clutching his fist and Force-choking her with no effort on his part. He destroys enemy bases by [[spoiler:dropping old satellites orbiting in space on them]]. Professional smartass Harry Dresden [[RespectedByTheRespected addresses him as, "sir".]]
]] When the two end up in a duel, a much more battle-hardened Dresden, [[spoiler: now the nigh superhumanly strong and resilient Winter Knight]], a OneManArmy who's killed two minor-league {{Physical God}}s in close combat and undergone TrainingFromHell from [[spoiler: Mab herself]], is under no illusions that even under what are - for him - ideal conditions and with Ebenezar not really wanting the fight, he's going to get his ass beaten. And does. [[spoiler: Since he was just stalling for time, it worked out anyway]].
*** Ancient Mai, a miniature senior citizen type, has an incredibly sharp intellect and deduction capabilities. What is known frighteningly good at deucing things. Regarding her magical abilities, what we know is limited, but when the hero Harry Dresden sees her escort of battle harden battle-hardened Wardens, magical soldiers trained to kill other mages and dark things, one is holding her umbrella. She has also made guardian statues able to detect dark magic.
*** Joseph "Injun Joe" Listens-to-Winds is a Native American shaman, best healer in the Council, regularly goes back to med school every ten years to see what new things have come about, and is a master of shapeshifting, having once [[spoiler:sent a walking physical god PhysicalGod running in fear of its destruction after a shapeshifting battle]].battle]]. This is not even the most impressive feat he pulls off in the series.



** Skaldi Skjeldson is one of Odin's Einherjar. He has been around for roughly 2,000 years. While he may look like a middle age man, he is a skilled combat fighter. When one of Harry's friends train against him, Skaldi never loses. At the last moment before Skaldi would lose, he pulls out some new move or trick to secure a victory.

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** Skaldi Skjeldson is one of Odin's Einherjar. He has been around for roughly 2,000 years. While he may look like a middle age aged man, he is a skilled combat fighter. When one of Harry's friends train friends, Murphy, a genuine martial arts master, trains against him, Skaldi never loses. At the last moment before Skaldi would lose, he pulls out some new move or trick to secure a victory.
** Regarding the villains, there's Nicodemus Archleone, leader of the Denarians. 2000 plus years old, we rarely see much of his Fallen, Anduriel, much less of his abilities - all the other Denarians transform in some way. The only visibly odd thing about Nicodemus is that his shadow sometimes takes on a life of its own, and Dresden admits that while all the other Denarians whip their Fallen and powers out all over the place, having fought Nicodemus twice he still barely knows anything about what [[LivingShadow Anduriel]] can do, other than occasionally turning into wings and chauffeuring Nicodemus around. He also explicitly notes that this is because Nicodemus is so dangerous that he's never actually ''had'' to resort to using Anduriel. While the fact he's got Judas' noose as a tie (and thus has a HealingFactor that would make Wolverine blush [[spoiler: except when someone a.k.a. Harry decides to strangle him with it]]) helps, he's also a MasterSwordsman who only feels threatened by Shiro, who's explicitly to swordsmanship what Mozart was to music. When he finally does have to resort to Anduriel in combat, he's able to take on both Michael, Knight of the Cross, a MasterSwordsman wielding ''Amoracchius'' a.k.a. freaking Excalibur, and Harry simultaneously for a fair while, despite being at his psychologically most vulnerable, ''ever''. While he's eventually forced to cut and run, it's impressive as hell.
** The Archive, though not the current possessor - Ivy is a small child when first introduced, and into her late teens by the most recent book. The Archive, meanwhile, is the entire collected written knowledge of humanity over the last five thousand years. When in an environment explicitly designed to make her vulnerable, including cutting off the supply of magic to the area and trapping her there, she casually vaporises a Denarian with a single spell, and takes on about a dozen at once, with Harry awestruck at the sheer precision and magical skill at work. The only one who provides a remote challenge is Tessa, also an example, only being a little younger than Nicodemus (her husband) and a powerful practitioner of magic in her own right - and by 'challenge' we mean, 'has to actually pay attention to her'. This is even more impressive given that magical stamina and strength are heavily tied to age - and for all her ancient knowledge, physically Ivy is ''twelve''. Harry later explicitly states that if it hadn't been for the magic trap, she'd have eaten the Denarians alive, and that the Council's assessment of her as being on par with the Winter and Summer Ladies, minor-league {{Physical God}}s, is a significant underestimate.
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** Tung continues his role as mentor in ''KOF'', forming the new hero team in ''XIV'' with his final two disciples, Shun'ei and Meitenkun.
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* In ''Manga/DemonSlayerKimetsuNoYaiba'', there's a figure of legend who got this close to kill the originator of all demons, a demon slayer samurai who kept his humanity but had skills that practically made him inhumanly strong, almost divine in nature; it turns out he managed to live for 80 years and in his final moments still wanted to dispatch his older twin brother who became a demon, his brother notes than even as an 80 years old man his skills still seemed absurd, something that made a demon who kept his youth feel envious.

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* In ''Manga/DemonSlayerKimetsuNoYaiba'', there's a figure of legend who got this close to kill killing the originator of all demons, a demon slayer samurai who kept his humanity but had skills that practically made him inhumanly strong, almost divine in nature; it turns out he managed to live for 80 years and in his final moments still wanted to dispatch his older twin brother who became a demon, his brother notes than even as an 80 years old man his skills still seemed absurd, something that made a demon who kept his youth feel envious.

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