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26th Sep '16 6:41:20 PM ANTMuddle
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Heavily overlaps with HermitGuru and StrongerWithAge. See also BadassGrandpa, WhenEldersAttack, and WeakButSkilled. RetiredGunfighter is the western, weaponized version of this. Contrast with OlderIsBetter. In martial arts movies, especially, the Old Master tends to be a MagicalAsian.

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Heavily overlaps with HermitGuru and StrongerWithAge. See also BadassGrandpa, WhenEldersAttack, and WeakButSkilled. RetiredGunfighter is the western, weaponized version of this. Contrast with OlderIsBetter. In martial arts movies, especially, the Old Master tends to be a MagicalAsian.
MagicalAsian. In the CaperCrew makeup, he is the Legendary Thief.
26th Sep '16 6:40:26 PM ANTMuddle
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The Old Master is often the sensei to one of the main characters, training them so they can [[PassingTheTorch pass on the torch]] to the new generation (and maybe earn themselves a break). To do so, the character typically prefers the WaxOnWaxOff approach to education and the WhenYouSnatchThePebble approach to final exams. Crueler or GoodIsNotSoft classes of Old Masters, on the other hand, function as the DrillSergeantNasty, and those who study under him had better be prepared for TrainingFromHell. In short, this character can be of any morality or alignment whatsoever.

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The Old Master is often the sensei to one of the main characters, training them so they can [[PassingTheTorch pass on the torch]] to the new generation (and maybe earn themselves a break). To do so, the character typically prefers the WaxOnWaxOff approach to education and the WhenYouSnatchThePebble approach to final exams. Crueler or GoodIsNotSoft classes of Old Masters, on the other hand, function as the DrillSergeantNasty, and those who study under him had better be prepared for TrainingFromHell. In short, this character can be of any morality morality, alignment, or alignment ''ethnicity'' whatsoever.
19th Sep '16 4:42:20 PM nombretomado
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* ''ArchieComics'': He's not that old, but the students of Riverdale High underestimated Coach Kleats in several sports. The same thing happened, with the ''entire male faculty'' challenging the varsity basketball players to a charity game.

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* ''ArchieComics'': ''Franchise/ArchieComics'':
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He's not that old, but the students of Riverdale High underestimated Coach Kleats in several sports. The same thing happened, with the ''entire male faculty'' challenging the varsity basketball players to a charity game.
15th Sep '16 12:59:23 AM PaulA
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* Mazer Rackham in ''EndersGame'', hero of the second BugWar and Ender's trainer in the third one.
** According to the prequel novels, he was also key in stopping the First Invasion, while still a member of the New Zealand SAS. Interestingly, the novels slightly deconstruct his greatness, showing that he failed his admittance test into the Mobile Operations Police (a multinational task force).

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* Mazer Rackham in ''EndersGame'', ''Literature/EndersGame'', hero of the second BugWar and Ender's trainer in the third one.
** According to [[Literature/FormicWars the prequel novels, novels]], he was also key in stopping the First Invasion, while still a member of the New Zealand SAS. Interestingly, the novels slightly deconstruct his greatness, showing that he failed his admittance test into the Mobile Operations Police (a multinational task force).
6th Sep '16 2:04:33 PM ANTMuddle
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''Don't'' let his age (or [[MiniatureSeniorCitizens his size]]) fool you; this guy is a force to be reckoned with. Despite being at least sixty years old, he (or [[NeverMessWithGranny she]]) is a formidable fighter who can take on several younger opponents at a time, [[CurbStompBattle clean the floor with all of them]] and barely get winded. They may rely on years of [[CharlesAtlasSuperpower training]] and deceptive strength, or [[TryingToCatchMeFightingDirty cunning]], but they get the job done. ObfuscatingStupidity comes as naturally to this guy as breathing.

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''Don't'' let his age (or [[MiniatureSeniorCitizens his size]]) fool you; this guy is a force to be reckoned with. Despite being at least sixty years old, he (or [[NeverMessWithGranny she]]) is a formidable fighter who can take on several younger opponents at a time, [[CurbStompBattle clean the floor with all of them]] them]], and barely get winded. They may rely on years of [[CharlesAtlasSuperpower training]] and deceptive strength, or [[TryingToCatchMeFightingDirty cunning]], but they get the job done. ObfuscatingStupidity comes as naturally to this guy as breathing.
breathing. He might also have been a BadassBookworm on the way there.
24th Jul '16 12:56:18 PM ANTMuddle
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The Old Master is often the sensei to one of the main characters, training them so they can [[PassingTheTorch pass on the torch]] to the new generation (and maybe earn themselves a break). To do so, the character typically prefers the WaxOnWaxOff approach to education and the WhenYouSnatchThePebble approach to final exams. Crueler or GoodIsNotSoft classes of Old Masters, on the other hand, function as the DrillSergeantNasty, and those who study under him had better be prepared for TrainingFromHell.

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The Old Master is often the sensei to one of the main characters, training them so they can [[PassingTheTorch pass on the torch]] to the new generation (and maybe earn themselves a break). To do so, the character typically prefers the WaxOnWaxOff approach to education and the WhenYouSnatchThePebble approach to final exams. Crueler or GoodIsNotSoft classes of Old Masters, on the other hand, function as the DrillSergeantNasty, and those who study under him had better be prepared for TrainingFromHell.
TrainingFromHell. In short, this character can be of any morality or alignment whatsoever.
9th Jul '16 6:49:22 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXI'' has Maat, the old man responsible for raising the level cap from 50 to 75 (or just to 70 on a few expansion jobs). He uses both WaxOnWaxOff and TrainingFromHell methods to raise your limits, but you never take him too seriously, and think he's [[TheObiWan just an advisor]]... then you go to break the 70-75 cap, which has you fight him, and most likely see him gleefully rend you into paste, [[TheComputerIsACheatingBastard even unfairly so.]] Simply put, anyone who's 75 respects him. Or hates him. It kinda varies.

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* ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXI'' has Maat, the old man responsible for raising the level cap from 50 to 75 (or just to 70 on a few expansion jobs). He uses both WaxOnWaxOff and TrainingFromHell methods to raise your limits, but you never take him too seriously, and think he's [[TheObiWan [[TheMentor just an advisor]]... then you go to break the 70-75 cap, which has you fight him, and most likely see him gleefully rend you into paste, [[TheComputerIsACheatingBastard even unfairly so.]] Simply put, anyone who's 75 respects him. Or hates him. It kinda varies.
8th Jul '16 1:45:28 AM Morgenthaler
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** The Mundus Magicus arc introduced a straighter variant in the form of the former [[BadassCrew Ala Rubra]] member [[BadassGrandpa Jack Rackan]], who acts as a somewhat goofy [[TheObiWan Obi-Wan]] towards the Ala Alba. [[spoiler:Of course, the [[ObfuscatingStupidity goofiness is a facade]].]]

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** The Mundus Magicus arc introduced a straighter variant in the form of the former [[BadassCrew Ala Rubra]] member [[BadassGrandpa Jack Rackan]], who acts as a somewhat goofy [[TheObiWan Obi-Wan]] Obi-Wan towards the Ala Alba. [[spoiler:Of course, the [[ObfuscatingStupidity goofiness is a facade]].]]
7th Jul '16 11:41:21 AM enesiirm
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* Jasmine Lee in ''WesternAnimation/TheLifeAndTimesOfJuniperLee'' is the protagonist's grandma (called "Ah Mah" 'literally' grandma in pin yin ) and the previous [[TheChosenOne mantle bearer]] of the Te Xuan Ze role. Having at least sixty years of fighting experience under her belt, she trains Juniper in being a better protector and guardian. Even though she experiences some backlash from her age, she still manages to wipe the floor, whether the enemy is a huge monster or an army of magically-enhanced magic-hating humans.
4th Jul '16 12:56:24 AM Morgenthaler
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Heavily overlaps with HermitGuru and StrongerWithAge. May double as TheObiWan. See also BadassGrandpa, WhenEldersAttack, and WeakButSkilled. RetiredGunfighter is the western, weaponized version of this. Contrast with OlderIsBetter. In martial arts movies, especially, the Old Master tends to be a MagicalAsian.

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Heavily overlaps with HermitGuru and StrongerWithAge. May double as TheObiWan. See also BadassGrandpa, WhenEldersAttack, and WeakButSkilled. RetiredGunfighter is the western, weaponized version of this. Contrast with OlderIsBetter. In martial arts movies, especially, the Old Master tends to be a MagicalAsian.
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