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9th Jul '16 6:49:22 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXI'' has Maat, the old man responsible for raising the level cap from 50 to 75 (or just to 70 on a few expansion jobs). He uses both WaxOnWaxOff and TrainingFromHell methods to raise your limits, but you never take him too seriously, and think he's [[TheObiWan just an advisor]]... then you go to break the 70-75 cap, which has you fight him, and most likely see him gleefully rend you into paste, [[TheComputerIsACheatingBastard even unfairly so.]] Simply put, anyone who's 75 respects him. Or hates him. It kinda varies.

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* ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXI'' has Maat, the old man responsible for raising the level cap from 50 to 75 (or just to 70 on a few expansion jobs). He uses both WaxOnWaxOff and TrainingFromHell methods to raise your limits, but you never take him too seriously, and think he's [[TheObiWan [[TheMentor just an advisor]]... then you go to break the 70-75 cap, which has you fight him, and most likely see him gleefully rend you into paste, [[TheComputerIsACheatingBastard even unfairly so.]] Simply put, anyone who's 75 respects him. Or hates him. It kinda varies.
8th Jul '16 1:45:28 AM Morgenthaler
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** The Mundus Magicus arc introduced a straighter variant in the form of the former [[BadassCrew Ala Rubra]] member [[BadassGrandpa Jack Rackan]], who acts as a somewhat goofy [[TheObiWan Obi-Wan]] towards the Ala Alba. [[spoiler:Of course, the [[ObfuscatingStupidity goofiness is a facade]].]]

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** The Mundus Magicus arc introduced a straighter variant in the form of the former [[BadassCrew Ala Rubra]] member [[BadassGrandpa Jack Rackan]], who acts as a somewhat goofy [[TheObiWan Obi-Wan]] Obi-Wan towards the Ala Alba. [[spoiler:Of course, the [[ObfuscatingStupidity goofiness is a facade]].]]
7th Jul '16 11:41:21 AM enesiirm
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* Jasmine Lee in ''WesternAnimation/TheLifeAndTimesOfJuniperLee'' is the protagonist's grandma (called "Ah Mah" 'literally' grandma in pin yin ) and the previous [[TheChosenOne mantle bearer]] of the Te Xuan Ze role. Having at least sixty years of fighting experience under her belt, she trains Juniper in being a better protector and guardian. Even though she experiences some backlash from her age, she still manages to wipe the floor, whether the enemy is a huge monster or an army of magically-enhanced magic-hating humans.
4th Jul '16 12:56:24 AM Morgenthaler
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Heavily overlaps with HermitGuru and StrongerWithAge. May double as TheObiWan. See also BadassGrandpa, WhenEldersAttack, and WeakButSkilled. RetiredGunfighter is the western, weaponized version of this. Contrast with OlderIsBetter. In martial arts movies, especially, the Old Master tends to be a MagicalAsian.

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Heavily overlaps with HermitGuru and StrongerWithAge. May double as TheObiWan. See also BadassGrandpa, WhenEldersAttack, and WeakButSkilled. RetiredGunfighter is the western, weaponized version of this. Contrast with OlderIsBetter. In martial arts movies, especially, the Old Master tends to be a MagicalAsian.
17th Jun '16 2:47:04 AM Morgenthaler
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* Spoofed in the ''GeorgeOfTheJungle'' episode "Still Got It", in the form of Grouch-Mouth. He's an elderly tiger who gets picked on at first but," You're forgeting that Ol' Grouch-Mouth is the king of the pranks." He then gets in his scooter and goes on a pranking rampage, until the now-decrepit "Mighty Berment" (who originally defeated him) arrives. The two fight. While the fight was anticlimactic, [[spoiler: it turns out the two are old friends and join forces to show how pranks are really done. They go on an even bigger pranking rampage, which was a CrowningMomentOfFunny. George ends up sending Berments Wife, Mighty Mary, to save the day and the two pranksters leave.]]

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* Spoofed in the ''GeorgeOfTheJungle'' ''WesternAnimation/GeorgeOfTheJungle'' episode "Still Got It", in the form of Grouch-Mouth. He's an elderly tiger who gets picked on at first but," You're forgeting that Ol' Grouch-Mouth is the king of the pranks." He then gets in his scooter and goes on a pranking rampage, until the now-decrepit "Mighty Berment" (who originally defeated him) arrives. The two fight. While the fight was anticlimactic, [[spoiler: it turns out the two are old friends and join forces to show how pranks are really done. They go on an even bigger pranking rampage, which was a CrowningMomentOfFunny. George ends up sending Berments Wife, Mighty Mary, to save the day and the two pranksters leave.]]



* Master Panda of ''SkunkFu'' is a textbook example of this.

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* Master Panda of ''SkunkFu'' ''WesternAnimation/SkunkFu'' is a textbook example of this.
9th Jun '16 2:54:24 PM LentilSandEater
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* Played a bit in ''WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda'' where Shifu is the old master to the Furious Five and Po, but he himself has more to learn from both his own mentor, Master Oogway, and from Po's own insight.
** Played completely straight with extremely pacifist and soft-spoken Oogway himself (Who is about ''1000 years old''), to the point that he was originally able to take down the undefeatable BigBad in less than a second.
*** According to Shifu, Oogway is the one who invented kung-fu, so it'd make sense for him to know more than anyone else about it.

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* Played ''WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda'':
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a bit in ''WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda'' in where Shifu is the old master to the Furious Five and Po, but he himself has more to learn from both his own mentor, Master Oogway, and from Po's own insight.
** Played completely straight with extremely pacifist and soft-spoken Oogway himself (Who is about ''1000 years old''), to the point that he was originally able to take down the undefeatable BigBad in less than a second.
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second. According to Shifu, Oogway is the one who invented kung-fu, so it'd make sense for him to know more than anyone else about it.it. We see more of his badassery in the TV series, such as when he [[DeadlyDodging completely floors]] the incredibly agile Monkey
9th Jun '16 2:51:44 PM LentilSandEater
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* [[HermitGuru Jolee]] [[DeadpanSnarker Bindo]] in ''KnightsOfTheOldRepublic'', who is old enough to be starting to lose his memory and for the little hair he has left to be completely white, and yet with the proper build and gear is a contender for the title of most powerful character (including the ''player'') in the game at high levels.

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* [[HermitGuru Jolee]] [[DeadpanSnarker Bindo]] in ''KnightsOfTheOldRepublic'', who is old enough to be starting to lose his memory and for the little hair he has left to be completely white, and yet with the proper build and gear is a contender for the title of most powerful character (including the ''player'') in the game at high levels. On the other hand he dismisses the idea of being a teacher and claims just to be travelling with you for fun.
4th Jun '16 7:43:57 PM nombretomado
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** Also Tung Fu-Rue and Jubei Yamada from the ''VideoGame/FatalFury'' series, along with Lee Pai-Long from ''VideoGame/ArtOfFighting''. Tung even made it as a bonus character in the PS2 version of ''KOF XI''. Makes you wonder why they didn't form a BadassGrandpa team in ''KOF''.

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** Also Tung Fu-Rue and Jubei Yamada from the ''VideoGame/FatalFury'' series, along with Lee Pai-Long from ''VideoGame/ArtOfFighting''. Tung even made it as a bonus character in the PS2 [=PS2=] version of ''KOF XI''. Makes you wonder why they didn't form a BadassGrandpa team in ''KOF''.
30th May '16 8:39:30 AM TheOneWhoTropes
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* Scavenger in ''TransformersArmada''. Not only is he the kind of fighter badass enough to catch a blow from an unstoppably powerful sword ''with his arm'', but he [[spoiler: makes a pretty good double agent.]]

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* Scavenger in ''TransformersArmada''.''Anime/TransformersArmada''. Not only is he the kind of fighter badass enough to catch a blow from an unstoppably powerful sword ''with his arm'', but he [[spoiler: makes a pretty good double agent.]]
30th May '16 5:09:11 AM TheOneWhoTropes
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* Eda Bell, one of the two teachers of hand-to-hand combat in TamoraPierce's ''Literature/ProtectorOfTheSmall'' books says something to the effect of 'I may look like someone's grandmother, but some grandchildren require more raising than others.'

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* Eda Bell, one of the two teachers of hand-to-hand combat in TamoraPierce's Creator/TamoraPierce's ''Literature/ProtectorOfTheSmall'' books says something to the effect of 'I may look like someone's grandmother, but some grandchildren require more raising than others.'
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