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**Despite being a prolific composer of symphonies, chamber music, and choral works, the only music of Music/JohannesBrahms most people know is his lullaby (''Wiegenlied'').


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**Music/RichardWagner is widely known for his wedding procession from 'Theatre/Lohengrin'' and "Ride of the Valkyries" from ''Theatre/TheRingOfTheNibelung'', but not from having seen or heard the operas. The former is widely used in weddings to this day, while the latter has appeared in dozens of films, perhaps most notably the Air Cavalry scene in ''Film/ApocalypseNow'' (as well as the [[WesternAnimation/LooneyTunes Bugs Bunny and Elmer Fudd Cartoon "What's Opera Doc"]]
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* Music/HollywoodUndead is very well-known for their creepy masks, the fact that they combine [[RapRock rap with rock]], being a Website/MySpace band, and for making party tracks. But not too many people can actually name any of their songs, nor will they know about their [[MoodWhiplash serious tracks in their later albums]] that go hand-in-hand with the party tracks. The fact is, they haven't had any hit on any format, but are still well-known for their appearances.

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* Music/HollywoodUndead is very well-known for their creepy masks, the fact that they combine [[RapRock [[RapMetal rap with rock]], metal]], being a Website/MySpace band, and for making party tracks. But not too many people can actually name any of their songs, nor will they know about their [[MoodWhiplash serious tracks in their later albums]] that go hand-in-hand with the party tracks. The fact is, they haven't had any hit on any format, but are still well-known for their appearances.

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* The ''VideoGame/MarioAndSonicAtTheOlympicGames'' and ''VideoGame/NewSuperMarioBros'' series sell better than "core" ''[[Franchise/SuperMarioBros Super Mario]]'' and ''Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog'' games, but you wouldn't know it from how gamers discuss them. The ''Olympic'' spinoff only gets discussed in passing or for laughs, while most discussions on the ''NSMB'' series come down to complaints that it's too stagnant or that it's inferior to the 3D ''Mario'' games like ''VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy'' or ''VideoGame/SuperMarioOdyssey''.

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The ''VideoGame/MarioAndSonicAtTheOlympicGames'' and ''VideoGame/NewSuperMarioBros'' series sell better than "core" ''[[Franchise/SuperMarioBros Super Mario]]'' and ''Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog'' games, but you wouldn't know it from how gamers discuss them. The ''Olympic'' spinoff only gets discussed in passing or for laughs, while most discussions on the ''NSMB'' series come down to complaints that it's too stagnant or that it's inferior to the 3D ''Mario'' games like ''VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy'' or ''VideoGame/SuperMarioOdyssey''.''VideoGame/SuperMarioOdyssey''.
** Wario is well known by the general public thanks to being a playable character in games such as ''VideoGame/MarioParty'' or ''VideoGame/MarioKart'', which are selling even better than mainline Mario games. Despite this, Wario's ''actual'' games, the ''VideoGame/WarioLand'' and ''VideoGame/WarioWare'' series are relatively niche.
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** Music/{{Radiohead}}'s ''Music/OKComputer'' has been named the best album of the '90s, but, again, few people can name a single track from it except "Karma Police", "Paranoid Android" and "No Surprises"". It remains fashionable to list ''Music/KidA'' as one of the best albums of the 2000s, yet nobody comments on that many of the tracks.

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** Music/{{Radiohead}}'s ''Music/OKComputer'' has been named the best album of the '90s, but, again, few people can name a single track from it except "Karma Police", "Paranoid Android" and "No Surprises"". It remains fashionable to list ''Music/KidA'' as one of the best albums of the 2000s, yet nobody comments on that many of the tracks.tracks, though in fairness, the latter album had no singles released for it.
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* Creator/HarryHoudini is still relevant in modern popular culture thanks to his name being synonymous with "escape". For example, ''VideoGame/BioShock'' has a type of enemy called "Houdini Splicer" known for [[TeleportSpam being hard to catch]] and ThisVeryWiki use him as the TropeNamer for KarmaHoudini and more...Despite this, very few people know anything about his life and stage performances beyond that point.
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* On that same note, Music/{{Deadmau5}}. He's very well-known to the public for his iconic mask, being [[CanadaEh Canadian]], and well, being a DJ. Most people, however, can't even name one of his songs.

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* On that same note, Music/{{Deadmau5}}. He's very well-known to the public for his iconic mask, being [[CanadaEh Canadian]], Canadian, and well, being a DJ. Most people, however, can't even name one of his songs.
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** What little most people know of Wagner's music is because it's been used in other places--''Film/ApocalypseNow'' and the ''WesternAnimation/LooneyTunes'' cartoon "WesternAnimation/WhatsOperaDoc" for "Music/RideOfTheValkyries," and weddings for the "Bridal Chorus". Check out the Classics section of StandardSnippet for these and other bits of Wagner that you never knew you knew.

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** What little most people know of Wagner's music is because it's been used in other places--''Film/ApocalypseNow'' and the ''WesternAnimation/LooneyTunes'' cartoon "WesternAnimation/WhatsOperaDoc" for "Music/RideOfTheValkyries," "Music/RideOfTheValkyries", and weddings for the "Bridal Chorus". Check out the Classics section of StandardSnippet for these and other bits of Wagner that you never knew you knew.



* Music/HankWilliams: the most important and influential country musician before Music/JohnnyCash, but how many music fans are familiar with his work? Magazine/TimeMagazine even put a compilation album by him, ''Music/TurnBackTheYearsTheEssentialHankWilliamsCollection'' in their ''All-Time 100 Albums'' list, which praises the most essential and timeless music albums of all time. Yet outside the USA and country music fan circles most people don't know anything about his work.

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* Music/HankWilliams: the most important and influential country musician before Music/JohnnyCash, but how many music fans are familiar with his work? Magazine/TimeMagazine even put a compilation album by him, ''Music/TurnBackTheYearsTheEssentialHankWilliamsCollection'' in their ''All-Time 100 Albums'' list, which praises the most essential and timeless music albums of all time. Yet outside the USA and country music fan circles most people don't know anything about his work.work, mention the name "Hank Williams" and people will probably think you're talking about his son, Hank Williams Jr. Who is himself an example of this, despite a long career of his own he's best known for being the guy from the ''[[UsefulNotes/{{NFL}} Monday Night Football]]'' song.[[note]]Or for losing that gig after making some ''really'' ignorant comments about UsefulNotes/BarackObama.[[/note]]



* The Music/WuTangClan is a unique kind of band where the general public is more likely to be familiar with their logo and for being influential to HipHop than they are with any of their songs.

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* The Music/WuTangClan is a unique kind of band where the general public is more likely to be familiar with their logo and for being influential to HipHop than they are with any of their songs. Many people don't realize that RZA (better known today as a director) and Method Man (better known as an actor) are members.



* Music/WillieNelson is an American cultural icon widely known for his hippie appearance, distinctive vocals, and predilection for marijuana. However, the only songs of his most people can name (assuming they can name any) are "Always on My Mind", a polished pop ballad that's something of a BlackSheepHit, and SignatureSong "On the Road Again." Almost no one outside of hardcore country fans has heard the landmark '70s albums like ''Phases and Stages'', ''Shotgun Willie'', and ''Red Headed Stranger'' that made him an outlaw legend.

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* Music/WillieNelson is an American cultural icon widely known for his hippie appearance, distinctive vocals, and predilection for marijuana. However, the only songs of his most people can name (assuming they can name any) are "Always on My Mind", a polished pop ballad that's something of a BlackSheepHit, and SignatureSong "On the Road Again." Almost no one outside of hardcore country fans has heard the landmark '70s albums like ''Phases and Stages'', ''Shotgun Willie'', and ''Red Headed Stranger'' that made him an outlaw legend. Younger people mainly know him as the country music singer that [[TheStoner really loves weed]].
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* Wrestling/{{WCW}} was once on par with WWE (then WWF) on the mainstream pro wrestling scene, but then they went out of business in 2001. While some things about it are common knowledge, such as Hulk Hogan's FaceHeelTurn, the Wrestling/NewWorldOrder storyline, a few high-profile matches, and the catastrophic mismanagement that caused it to go out of business in the first place, there probably aren't very many people born after the mid-1990s who have actually watched a WCW match.

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* Wrestling/{{WCW}} was once on par with WWE (then WWF) on the mainstream pro wrestling scene, but then they went out of business in 2001. While some things about it are common knowledge, such as Hulk Hogan's FaceHeelTurn, the Wrestling/NewWorldOrder storyline, a few high-profile matches, and the catastrophic mismanagement that caused it to go out of business in the first place, there probably aren't very many people born after the mid-1990s who have actually watched a WCW match. (Though this has changed somewhat with the introduction of the WWE Network, which in the U.S. has been absorbed into [=NBC's=] Peacock streaming service, and has a large portion of the WCW video library available on demand.)
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** And while we're in the same universe, ''VisualNovel/{{Clannad}} ~After Story~''. How many people can mention anything other than [[spoiler:Nagisa's and Ushio's deaths]]?

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** And while we're in the same universe, ''VisualNovel/{{Clannad}} ~After Story~''. How many people can mention anything other than [[spoiler:Nagisa's [[spoiler:[[ItWasHisSled Nagisa's and Ushio's deaths]]?deaths]]]]?
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Works from obscure fields or appealing to a rarefied demographic such as exploitation films, children's cartoons, LeFilmArtistique are likewise not intended for mainstream appeal. The fact that some works become famous and known outside their intended audience is a case of coming [[OutOfTheGhetto out of the ghetto]] or having a MultipleDemographicAppeal rather than truly being obscure. Likewise, UsefulNotes/SchoolStudyMedia features works and authors include bestselling authors from the 19th Century, and while many of them were once mainstream and obscure today, their appeal is strictly TrueArtIsAncient.

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Works from obscure fields or appealing to a rarefied demographic such as exploitation films, children's cartoons, LeFilmArtistique are likewise not intended for mainstream appeal. The fact that some works become famous and known outside their intended audience is a case of coming [[OutOfTheGhetto out of the ghetto]] or having a MultipleDemographicAppeal rather than truly being obscure. Likewise, UsefulNotes/SchoolStudyMedia MediaNotes/SchoolStudyMedia features works and authors include bestselling authors from the 19th Century, and while many of them were once mainstream and obscure today, their appeal is strictly TrueArtIsAncient.



* ''Literature/{{Frankenstein}}; or, The Modern Prometheus''. Although [[UsefulNotes/SchoolStudyMedia the book is sometimes read in schools]], most people know so little about the original story that they [[IAmNotShazam confuse the names of the creator and the creature.]] Many people would be surprised to learn that Frankenstein's monster is actually a genius, or that the original text is much more tragedy than horror, or -- most startlingly of all -- that there is no [[TheIgor Igor.]]

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* ''Literature/{{Frankenstein}}; or, The Modern Prometheus''. Although [[UsefulNotes/SchoolStudyMedia [[MediaNotes/SchoolStudyMedia the book is sometimes read in schools]], most people know so little about the original story that they [[IAmNotShazam confuse the names of the creator and the creature.]] Many people would be surprised to learn that Frankenstein's monster is actually a genius, or that the original text is much more tragedy than horror, or -- most startlingly of all -- that there is no [[TheIgor Igor.]]
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* Creator/RobertCrumb is widely considered to be one of the most influential and important comic strip artists in the world and by far the only ''underground comics'' artist to still be a household name. That said, most of the general audience knows him more as that geeky DirtyOldMan in the hat and glasses, an image mostly derived from his comics. In the documentary ''Crumb'' (1994) the man himself is giving a slideshow explaining to a college audience the three things he is most famous for, all of them not indicative of the entire scope of his personality and oeuvre: ComicBook/FritzTheCat, the album cover of ''Music/CheapThrills'' and the ''Keep On Truckin'' emblem. Fritz the Cat is better known nowadays for Creator/RalphBakshi's film adaptation ''WesternAnimation/FritzTheCat'', which Crumb hated and caused him to kill Fritz off permanently in his next comic strip. ''Cheap Thrills'' has led him to be associated with the hippie culture, a subculture he never liked, especially not the music. And ''Keep On Truckin'' also gave him legal problems because tax administrators thought he held the copyright, which he didn't. Needless to say: all these three things are more indicative of Crumb's work in TheSixties than the more mature and personal, autobiographical work he has made since TheSeventies.

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* Creator/RobertCrumb is widely considered to be one of the most influential and important comic strip artists in the world and by far the only ''underground comics'' artist to still be a household name.{{household name|s}}. That said, most of the general audience knows him more as that geeky DirtyOldMan in the hat and glasses, an image mostly derived from his comics. In the documentary ''Crumb'' (1994) the man himself is giving a slideshow explaining to a college audience the three things he is most famous for, all of them not indicative of the entire scope of his personality and oeuvre: ComicBook/FritzTheCat, the album cover of ''Music/CheapThrills'' and the ''Keep On Truckin'' emblem. Fritz the Cat is better known nowadays for Creator/RalphBakshi's film adaptation ''WesternAnimation/FritzTheCat'', which Crumb hated and caused him to kill Fritz off permanently in his next comic strip. ''Cheap Thrills'' has led him to be associated with the hippie culture, a subculture he never liked, especially not the music. And ''Keep On Truckin'' also gave him legal problems because tax administrators thought he held the copyright, which he didn't. Needless to say: all these three things are more indicative of Crumb's work in TheSixties than the more mature and personal, autobiographical work he has made since TheSeventies.
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** Within the ''Digimon'' franchise itself is [[Anime/DigimonTamers Renamon]], [[PopularWithFurries who is extremely popular in furry fanart]], but many of these fanartists haven't actually seen ''Tamers'' or even any ''Digimon'' series.

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** Within the ''Digimon'' franchise itself is [[Anime/DigimonTamers Renamon]], [[PopularWithFurries who is extremely popular in furry fanart]], but many of these fanartists [[FanworkOnlyFans haven't actually seen ''Tamers'' or even any ''Digimon'' series.series]].
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* Similarly, ''MOON'', starring ''VideoGame/EternalFighterZero'''s Ikumi Amasawa, is the one EFZ-related visual novel that doesn't have an anime adaptation (or TV Tropes page, for that matter). It's easy to see why - ''MOON'' is a hentai so dark, disgusting, and graphic that no one ever gets around to playing it.

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* Similarly, ''MOON'', starring ''VideoGame/EternalFighterZero'''s Ikumi Amasawa, is the one EFZ-related visual novel that doesn't have an anime adaptation (or TV Tropes page, for that matter). It's easy to see why - ''MOON'' is a hentai an HGame so dark, disgusting, and graphic that no one ever gets around to playing it.it. An anime perhaps could be done, but it would take dedication and no regards for censors.
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** People who know about ''WesternAnimation/CaptainNTheGameMaster'' typically know it's about an Earth kid getting [[TrappedInAnotherWorld sucked into a world]] where all his favorite NES games are real, and that it's full of wacky inaccuracies and creative liberties in characterization and designs (green Mega Man, the hero of ''VideoGame/KidIcarus'' being named "Kid Icarus" instead of Pit, "Metroid" being the name of a planet instead of a species, and ''everything'' about the show's take on Simon Belmont), and... that's it.

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** People who know about ''WesternAnimation/CaptainNTheGameMaster'' typically know it's about an Earth kid getting [[TrappedInAnotherWorld sucked into a world]] where all his favorite NES games are real, and that it's full of wacky inaccuracies and creative liberties in characterization and designs (green Mega Man, the hero of ''VideoGame/KidIcarus'' ''VideoGame/KidIcarus1986'' being named "Kid Icarus" instead of Pit, "Metroid" being the name of a planet instead of a species, and ''everything'' about the show's take on Simon Belmont), and... that's it.
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* Many UsefulNotes/AcademyAward-nominated films are like this, particularly ones nominated for Best Picture. The titles and (usually) the premises become known in the American conscience when they're nominated, and yet, few people can say they've seen more than a couple, maybe even ''any''. This results in many people buzzing about films they have never seen, and probably never will, and this carries on into a new batch of films the following year as the previous winners and nominees are largely forgotten. ''Then'', a few years later, rarely anyone can even list the nominees, or who won and why in that particular year.

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* Many UsefulNotes/AcademyAward-nominated MediaNotes/AcademyAward-nominated films are like this, particularly ones nominated for Best Picture. The titles and (usually) the premises become known in the American conscience when they're nominated, and yet, few people can say they've seen more than a couple, maybe even ''any''. This results in many people buzzing about films they have never seen, and probably never will, and this carries on into a new batch of films the following year as the previous winners and nominees are largely forgotten. ''Then'', a few years later, rarely anyone can even list the nominees, or who won and why in that particular year.



* Certain actors from UsefulNotes/TheGoldenAgeOfHollywood were once so ubiquitous that they are little seen by the general public but remain famous on account of countless imitators of their voices, personas, and references to their famous roles:

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* ''Film/MidnightCowboy'' received much acclaim upon release, including the Academy Award for Best Picture, and is considered to be such an iconic and classic piece of film the United States government has it preserved (among with many others) in the National Film Registry. Its biggest impact upon the greater public? Being the source of the quote "Hey, I'm walkin' here!". Even then, the average person has no idea the quote even came from a film, only knowing it as a StockPhrase associated with [[BrooklynRage stereotypical New Yorkers]]. It's also known by a lesser number of people as an example of a movie released with the former [[UsefulNotes/MediaClassifications X rating]], who then assume it must have been earned through being exceptionally lurid and/or pornographic. In reality, the film's content isn't anything more extreme than what falls under an R rating, the X rating being [[RatedMForMoney requested by the distributor]] due to the LGBT themes.

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* ''Film/MidnightCowboy'' received much acclaim upon release, including the Academy Award for Best Picture, and is considered to be such an iconic and classic piece of film the United States government has it preserved (among with many others) in the National Film Registry. Its biggest impact upon the greater public? Being the source of the quote "Hey, I'm walkin' here!". Even then, the average person has no idea the quote even came from a film, only knowing it as a StockPhrase associated with [[BrooklynRage stereotypical New Yorkers]]. It's also known by a lesser number of people as an example of a movie released with the former [[UsefulNotes/MediaClassifications [[MediaNotes/MediaClassifications X rating]], who then assume it must have been earned through being exceptionally lurid and/or pornographic. In reality, the film's content isn't anything more extreme than what falls under an R rating, the X rating being [[RatedMForMoney requested by the distributor]] due to the LGBT themes.



* This applies to famous comedians from UsefulNotes/TheSilentAgeOfHollywood, many of whom originated iconic bits of slapsticks and visual gags that ''still'' get laughs decades and a century after they are introduced. These gags are reused in countless movies and TV shows, but few have seen the originals:

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* This applies to famous comedians from UsefulNotes/TheSilentAgeOfHollywood, MediaNotes/TheSilentAgeOfHollywood, many of whom originated iconic bits of slapsticks and visual gags that ''still'' get laughs decades and a century after they are introduced. These gags are reused in countless movies and TV shows, but few have seen the originals:



* Creator/{{Sega}} suffered from this for a while, as their attempts to counter Nintendo's monopoly in the US with the UsefulNotes/SegaMasterSystem failed (as compared to [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff Europe and South America, where they had much more success]]). Even the UsefulNotes/SegaGenesis struggled for a time until ''VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog1'' debuted in 1991. Sega then suffered from this again with the UsefulNotes/SegaSaturn as Sega fumbled repeatedly with everything from marketing to distribution; many of the greatest games on the Saturn (such as the first game in the ''Videogame/SakuraWars'' series) never reached North America thanks to Bernie Stolar's "no 2D" policies. The UsefulNotes/SegaDreamcast only ran from 1998 to early 2001, but conversely many of its' games are still well-remembered and the console has a devoted cult following. Even today, many people only know about Sega for ''Sonic'', the Genesis, the [=Dreamcast=], and the ''VideoGame/LikeADragon'' series than anything else they've worked on outside of those.

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* Creator/{{Sega}} suffered from this for a while, as their attempts to counter Nintendo's monopoly in the US with the UsefulNotes/SegaMasterSystem Platform/SegaMasterSystem failed (as compared to [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff Europe and South America, where they had much more success]]). Even the UsefulNotes/SegaGenesis Platform/SegaGenesis struggled for a time until ''VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog1'' debuted in 1991. Sega then suffered from this again with the UsefulNotes/SegaSaturn Platform/SegaSaturn as Sega fumbled repeatedly with everything from marketing to distribution; many of the greatest games on the Saturn (such as the first game in the ''Videogame/SakuraWars'' series) never reached North America thanks to Bernie Stolar's "no 2D" policies. The UsefulNotes/SegaDreamcast Platform/SegaDreamcast only ran from 1998 to early 2001, but conversely many of its' games are still well-remembered and the console has a devoted cult following. Even today, many people only know about Sega for ''Sonic'', the Genesis, the [=Dreamcast=], and the ''VideoGame/LikeADragon'' series than anything else they've worked on outside of those.



* The ''VideoGame/{{Ys}}'' series is one of the oldest, most long-running and most-distinguished series of [=JRPGs=] ever made, with ''VideoGame/YsIAncientYsVanishedOmen'' being released in 1987 and is still ongoing with countless ports, remakes, and a prequel, ''Ys Origin''. But until the UsefulNotes/Playstation2 port of ''VideoGame/YsVITheArkOfNapishtim'' was released in 2005, the games were practically unknown in the West. Only 3 prior games (the UsefulNotes/SegaMasterSystem port of ''Ys I,'' the UsefulNotes/TurboGrafx16 port of the first game and ''[[VideoGame/YsIIAncientYsVanishedTheFinalChapter Ys II]]'' compiled and ''Ys III'' on the [[UsefulNotes/SuperNintendoEntertainmentSystem SNES]], UsefulNotes/SegaGenesis and [=TurboGrafx=]) had been released in English at all before ''Napishtim'', none of which had particularly set the sales charts on fire, leaving the series only known to die-hard import and fan-translation fans for 14 years. While it's somewhat better-known now, it's still considered a CultClassic series, despite a long and storied pedigree that puts it in the same conversation as the likes of ''Franchise/FinalFantasy, VideoGame/DragonQuest'' and particularly ''Franchise/TheLegendOfZelda,'' which ''Ys'' was once considered a serious rival to in the field of {{Action RPG}}s.
* As of the late 2010s, ''[[VideoGame/DokiDokiPanic Yume Kōjō: Doki Doki Panic]]'' has become this. It is no longer obscure information that ''VideoGame/SuperMarioBros2'' is a DolledUpInstallment of ''Panic'', to the point that those who still think otherwise have become a source of mockery; but good luck finding someone who has actually played the original game[[labelnote:note 1]]The UsefulNotes/{{emulation}} community is a good place to start[[/labelnote]], what with being Famicom Disk System-exclusive[[labelnote:note 2]]An add-on to the Famicom--itself the Japanese version of the [[UsefulNotes/NintendoEntertainmentSystem NES]]--that was [[NoExportForYou never released outside Japan]][[/labelnote]] and all.

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* The ''VideoGame/{{Ys}}'' series is one of the oldest, most long-running and most-distinguished series of [=JRPGs=] ever made, with ''VideoGame/YsIAncientYsVanishedOmen'' being released in 1987 and is still ongoing with countless ports, remakes, and a prequel, ''Ys Origin''. But until the UsefulNotes/Playstation2 Platform/Playstation2 port of ''VideoGame/YsVITheArkOfNapishtim'' was released in 2005, the games were practically unknown in the West. Only 3 prior games (the UsefulNotes/SegaMasterSystem Platform/SegaMasterSystem port of ''Ys I,'' the UsefulNotes/TurboGrafx16 Platform/TurboGrafx16 port of the first game and ''[[VideoGame/YsIIAncientYsVanishedTheFinalChapter Ys II]]'' compiled and ''Ys III'' on the [[UsefulNotes/SuperNintendoEntertainmentSystem [[Platform/SuperNintendoEntertainmentSystem SNES]], UsefulNotes/SegaGenesis Platform/SegaGenesis and [=TurboGrafx=]) had been released in English at all before ''Napishtim'', none of which had particularly set the sales charts on fire, leaving the series only known to die-hard import and fan-translation fans for 14 years. While it's somewhat better-known now, it's still considered a CultClassic series, despite a long and storied pedigree that puts it in the same conversation as the likes of ''Franchise/FinalFantasy, VideoGame/DragonQuest'' and particularly ''Franchise/TheLegendOfZelda,'' which ''Ys'' was once considered a serious rival to in the field of {{Action RPG}}s.
* As of the late 2010s, ''[[VideoGame/DokiDokiPanic Yume Kōjō: Doki Doki Panic]]'' has become this. It is no longer obscure information that ''VideoGame/SuperMarioBros2'' is a DolledUpInstallment of ''Panic'', to the point that those who still think otherwise have become a source of mockery; but good luck finding someone who has actually played the original game[[labelnote:note 1]]The UsefulNotes/{{emulation}} community is a good place to start[[/labelnote]], what with being Famicom Disk System-exclusive[[labelnote:note 2]]An add-on to the Famicom--itself the Japanese version of the [[UsefulNotes/NintendoEntertainmentSystem [[Platform/NintendoEntertainmentSystem NES]]--that was [[NoExportForYou never released outside Japan]][[/labelnote]] and all.



** ''WesternAnimation/WoodyWoodpecker'': Everyone recognizes the character and can mimic his SignatureLaugh, but actually being able to name any of the side characters or stories is less easy. Many kids today seem to know him more from his association with the Ride/UniversalStudios theme parks than from having watched his short films (though he is ''not'' subject to this in [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff Brazil, where he is that country's equivalent to]] ''WesternAnimation/SpongeBobSquarePants''). It doesn't really help that unlike many other characters from UsefulNotes/TheGoldenAgeOfAnimation, only one of his cartoons is in the PublicDomain.

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** ''WesternAnimation/WoodyWoodpecker'': Everyone recognizes the character and can mimic his SignatureLaugh, but actually being able to name any of the side characters or stories is less easy. Many kids today seem to know him more from his association with the Ride/UniversalStudios theme parks than from having watched his short films (though he is ''not'' subject to this in [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff Brazil, where he is that country's equivalent to]] ''WesternAnimation/SpongeBobSquarePants''). It doesn't really help that unlike many other characters from UsefulNotes/TheGoldenAgeOfAnimation, MediaNotes/TheGoldenAgeOfAnimation, only one of his cartoons is in the PublicDomain.
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* Creator/BenjaminFranklin is absolutely a household name and is known as one of the United States' founding fathers, but most people would be hard-pressed to come up with any specifics other than "He's on the $100 bill", "He flew a kite in a thunderstorm and discovered electricity", and "He wanted the turkey to be the national bird instead of the eagle." More than a few people, especially non-Americans, mistake him for a former president.

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* Creator/BenjaminFranklin is absolutely a household name and is known as one of the United States' founding fathers, but most people would be hard-pressed to come up with any specifics other than "He's on the $100 bill", "He flew a kite in a thunderstorm and discovered electricity", and "He wanted the turkey to be the national bird instead of the eagle." More than a few people, especially non-Americans, mistake him for a former president. The same goes for UsefulNotes/AlexanderHamilton, who's mostly known as the guy on the $10 and for getting killed in a duel. He also wasn't a President (and wasn't even eligible for the ballot because he wasn't born on U.S. soil), but earned his spot on the $10 by being the first Secretary of the Treasury and the guy that created the Federal Reserve Bank.

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** You'd also be hard-pressed to find someone who doesn't read comics that knows that Alfred isn't Batman's only ParentalSubstitute. His parents' friend, Dr. Leslie Thompkins, is his maternal figure who helped Alfred raise him after their death. Like the al Ghuls, Leslie is a relatively recent addition from the 70s and she's only ever appeared in the flesh in one "mainstream" adaption, ''Series/{{Gotham}}''. Even that is a pretty different take on the character. She is YoungerAndHipper and [[PromotedToLoveInterest Jim Gordon's love interest]]. She's also not the pacifist she is in the comics and spends some time as a mob boss. Leslie has been referenced in some mainstream adaptations like the ''[[Franchise/BatmanArkhamSeries Arkham]]'' games but she's only ever appeared physically in two other adaptations, a few episodes of ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'' and the ''WesternAnimation/BatmanGothamByGaslight'' animated film. The former is still popular but she's not in any of the famous episodes and the latter is something that's marketed at existing fans. It doesn't help that she has a particularly (in)famous NeverLiveItDown moment in the comics that required an AuthorsSavingThrow. [[note]] [[ComicBook/BatmanWarGames She let a teenager die to teach Batman a lesson about how kids shouldn't be fighting crime]] [[/note]]
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* ''Anime/TheBraveFighterOfSunFighbird'' spawned the [[MemeticMutation meme]] "Is this a pigeon''?...which very few even know is actually from something.
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** ''WesternAnimation/TheFlintstones'': Everyone can recognize this Stone Age family, and most people can also recognize the Rubbles (sometimes also the Great Gazoo). Most people also know Fred's catchphrase, "Yabba Dabba Doo!" But with the show being off the air for years, how many younger people have watched a single episode of the show, or can name any of the secondary characters? Nowadays, they're mostly known for their breakfast cereals (Fruity Pebbles and Cocoa Pebbles), children's vitamins, or for the fact that shows like ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'' wouldn't exist without it.

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** ''WesternAnimation/TheFlintstones'': Everyone can recognize this Stone Age family, and most people can also recognize the Rubbles (sometimes also the Great Gazoo). Most people also know Fred's catchphrase, "Yabba Dabba Doo!" But with the show being off the air for years, how many younger people have watched a single episode of the show, or can name any of the secondary characters? Nowadays, they're mostly known for their breakfast cereals (Fruity Pebbles and Cocoa Pebbles), children's vitamins, or for the fact that shows like ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'' wouldn't exist without it. To a lesser extent, there's also their infamous cigarette commercial from the 50s pushing Winston cigarettes.
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** Most people know that ''WesternAnimation/SteamboatWillie'' is WesternAnimation/MickeyMouse's first sound cartoon and the film that launched the Creator/{{Disney}} empire. The opening SignatureScene of Mickey whistling and steering the boat is considered one of the most iconic scenes in the history of animation and has since become the ident for Walt Disney Feature Animation early in the 21st century, but how many are familiar with the rest of the plot?

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** Most people know that ''WesternAnimation/SteamboatWillie'' is WesternAnimation/MickeyMouse's first sound cartoon and the film that launched the Creator/{{Disney}} empire. The opening SignatureScene of Mickey whistling and steering the boat is considered one of the most iconic scenes in the history of animation and has since become the ident for Walt Disney Feature Animation early in the 21st century, but how many are familiar with the rest of the plot?plot? Funnily enough, when the cartoon finally went into the public domain in 2024, many modern viewers watched it for the first time out of curiosity and were surprised by the amount of cartoon animal cruelty involved to the point it became [[MemeticPsychopath memetic]].[[note]]Nothing graphic happens, Mickey plays a bunch of animals like instruments (playing a duck like a trumpet, pulling piglet tails and then poking their mother's nipples, pulling on a cat's tail and swinging the cat away, etc.) Then at the end of the short he throws a potato at a parrot laughing at him.[[/note]]

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* While it's popular with kids and has a sizeable adult fanbase, go up to any fan of ''other'' girls' series who whine about MoeAnthropomorphism, {{High School AU}}s, or [[WorldOfPun puns]] infecting their series with [[WesternAnimation/EquestriaGirls spin]][[Toys/DCSuperHeroGirls offs]], and ask them if they've ever actually seen ''Toys/MonsterHigh'' -- whether it's generation 1, generation 2, generation 3, retconned material, or even the reviled Lisi Harrison books -- or even read the back of a doll box. The answer is usually no.

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* While it's popular with kids and has a sizeable adult fanbase, go up to any fan of ''other'' girls' series who whine about MoeAnthropomorphism, {{High School AU}}s, or [[WorldOfPun puns]] infecting their series with [[WesternAnimation/EquestriaGirls spin]][[Toys/DCSuperHeroGirls offs]], and ask them if they've ever actually seen ''Toys/MonsterHigh'' -- whether it's generation 1, generation 2, generation 3, retconned material, or even the reviled Lisi Harrison books -- or even read the back of a doll box. The answer is usually no.


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* ''Literature/RaggedyAnn'' was one of the earliest big merchandising successes, dating back to 1915, and has had numerous adaptations throughout the numerous decades that followed, including storybooks, animated shorts by the Fleischer brothers, [[WesternAnimation/RaggedyAnnAndAndyAMusicalAdventure a feature-length animated movie]] which featured the voice of Creator/DidiConn, a stage musical, animated TV specials produced by Creator/ChuckJones, and a short-lived animated TV series. However, most people under a certain age only know of the dolls, and maybe the aforementioned movie as well. It doesn't help that the property is also associated with things such as the Annabelle doll (a supposedly haunted Raggedy Ann doll that inspired a series of films).
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* ''Literature/TheColorPurple'' has won several awards and has a {{memetic|Mutation}} reputation especially amongst black Americans, yet the actual book itself doesn't get discussed much besides everyone knowing it's a tearjerker. Due to AdaptationDisplacement with its more family-friendly 1980s film, most don't realize that the original book is actually a quite adult story with ''heavy'' QueerRomance elements.

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* ''Literature/TheColorPurple'' has won several awards and has a {{memetic|Mutation}} reputation especially amongst black Americans, yet the actual book itself doesn't get discussed much besides everyone knowing it's a tearjerker. Due to AdaptationDisplacement with its more family-friendly [[Film/TheColorPurple1985 1980s film, film]], most don't realize that the original book is actually a quite adult story with ''heavy'' QueerRomance elements.
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* ''WesternAnimation/AmericanDad'' has been around for two decades, gets consistently high ratings on television, and is one of the more recognizable adult animated series out there. But while most people have heard of it, very few are dedicated fans and if asked, most non-fans couldn't tell you anything about the characters (apart from maybe Roger the alien) or what the episodes are about. It's mainly just known for being Creator/SethMacFarlane's other long-running show that's not ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy''.

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* ''WesternAnimation/AmericanDad'' has been around running for two decades, gets consistently high ratings on television, and is one of the more recognizable adult animated series out there. But while most people have heard of it, ''American Dad!'', very few are dedicated fans of it and if asked, most non-fans couldn't tell you anything about the characters (apart from maybe Roger the alien) or what the episodes are about. It's mainly just known for being Creator/SethMacFarlane's other long-running adult animated show that's not ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy''.
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* ''WesternAnimation/AmericanDad'' has been around for two decades, gets consistently high ratings on television, and is one of the more recognizable adult animated series out there. But while most people have heard of it, very few are dedicated fans and if asked, most people couldn't tell you anything about the characters (apart from maybe Roger the alien) or what the episodes are about. It's mainly just known for being Creator/SethMacFarlane's other long-running show that's not ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy''.

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* ''WesternAnimation/AmericanDad'' has been around for two decades, gets consistently high ratings on television, and is one of the more recognizable adult animated series out there. But while most people have heard of it, very few are dedicated fans and if asked, most people non-fans couldn't tell you anything about the characters (apart from maybe Roger the alien) or what the episodes are about. It's mainly just known for being Creator/SethMacFarlane's other long-running show that's not ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy''.
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* ''Anime/TheBraveFighterOfSunFighbird'' spawned the [[MemeticMutation meme]] "Is this a pigeon''?...which very few even know is actually from something.
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* ''WesternAnimation/AmericanDad'' has been around for two decades, gets consistently high ratings on television, and is one of the more recognizable adult animated series out there. But while people have heard of it, very few are dedicated fans and if asked, most people couldn't tell you anything about the characters (apart from maybe Roger the alien) or what the episodes are about. It's mainly just known for being Creator/SethMacFarlane's other long-running show that's not ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy''.

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* ''WesternAnimation/AmericanDad'' has been around for two decades, gets consistently high ratings on television, and is one of the more recognizable adult animated series out there. But while most people have heard of it, very few are dedicated fans and if asked, most people couldn't tell you anything about the characters (apart from maybe Roger the alien) or what the episodes are about. It's mainly just known for being Creator/SethMacFarlane's other long-running show that's not ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy''.
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* ''WesternAnimation/AmericanDad'' has been around for two decades, gets consistently high ratings on television, and is one of the more recognizable adult animated series out there. But while people have heard of it, very few are dedicated fans or can tell you what any episodes are about, and it's mainly just known for being Creator/SethMacFarlane's other long-running show that's not ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy''.

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* ''WesternAnimation/AmericanDad'' has been around for two decades, gets consistently high ratings on television, and is one of the more recognizable adult animated series out there. But while people have heard of it, very few are dedicated fans or can and if asked, most people couldn't tell you anything about the characters (apart from maybe Roger the alien) or what any the episodes are about, and it's about. It's mainly just known for being Creator/SethMacFarlane's other long-running show that's not ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy''.
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* If you ask any random person on the street across the English-speaking world to name a superhero, most could identify Characters/{{Batman|TheCharacter}}, Characters/{{Superman|TheCharacter}} and [[Characters/SpiderManPeterParker Spider-Man]]. The fact that the latter belongs to a different company and universe (Creator/MarvelComics) was not a widely known fact (at least until the ''Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse''). Indeed, non-comic fans will often wonder why Batman can't team up with Spider-Man. A lot of superhero comics like ''Fantastic Four'', ''X-Men'', ''The Avengers'', ''Captain America'', ''Captain Marvel'' (the original, now ''Shazam''), ''The Flash'', ''Wonder Woman'', ''Buck Rogers'', ''Flash Gordon'', ''Judge Dredd''... are better known through their movie and TV series adaptations than the comics they originally appeared in. Most of the general audience - especially outside North America - knows up to nothing about these characters but: "yeah, they are superheroes who fight crime, I guess." Compare them to series like Superman, Batman, and Spider-Man, where a majority can at least tell you something about the characters or the backstory.
* ''Amazing Fantasy'' issue 15 featured the very first appearance of [[Characters/SpiderManPeterParker Spider-Man]] ever, and it's one of the three most famous comic book issues in the history of superhero comics. However, most people who've heard of it don't know that it contained several back-up one-shot stories apart from the Spider-Man adventure, and fewer have read any of them.

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* If you ask any random person on the street across the English-speaking world to name a superhero, most could identify Characters/{{Batman|TheCharacter}}, Characters/{{Superman|TheCharacter}} and [[Characters/SpiderManPeterParker [[Characters/MarvelComicsPeterParker Spider-Man]]. The fact that the latter belongs to a different company and universe (Creator/MarvelComics) was not a widely known fact (at least until the ''Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse''). Indeed, non-comic fans will often wonder why Batman can't team up with Spider-Man. A lot of superhero comics like ''Fantastic Four'', ''X-Men'', ''The Avengers'', ''Captain America'', ''Captain Marvel'' (the original, now ''Shazam''), ''The Flash'', ''Wonder Woman'', ''Buck Rogers'', ''Flash Gordon'', ''Judge Dredd''... are better known through their movie and TV series adaptations than the comics they originally appeared in. Most of the general audience - especially outside North America - knows up to nothing about these characters but: "yeah, they are superheroes who fight crime, I guess." Compare them to series like Superman, Batman, and Spider-Man, where a majority can at least tell you something about the characters or the backstory.
* ''Amazing Fantasy'' issue 15 ''ComicBook/SpiderMan'': ''ComicBook/AmazingFantasyNumber15'' featured the very first appearance of [[Characters/SpiderManPeterParker [[Characters/MarvelComicsPeterParker Spider-Man]] ever, and it's one of the three most famous comic book issues in the history of superhero comics. However, most people who've heard of it don't know that it contained several back-up one-shot stories apart from the Spider-Man adventure, and fewer have read any of them.



* If you ask a random person who the quintessential ''[[ComicBook/TheAvengers Avengers]]'' are, you'll probably be told ComicBook/IronMan, [[Characters/TheMightyThorThorOdinson Thor]], [[Characters/MarvelComicsSteveRogers Captain America]], and [[Characters/IncredibleHulkBruceBanner The Incredible Hulk]].

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* If you ask a random person who the quintessential ''[[ComicBook/TheAvengers Avengers]]'' are, you'll probably be told ComicBook/IronMan, [[Characters/TheMightyThorThorOdinson [[Characters/MarvelComicsTonyStark Iron Man]], [[Characters/MarvelComicsThorOdinson Thor]], [[Characters/MarvelComicsSteveRogers Captain America]], and [[Characters/IncredibleHulkBruceBanner [[Characters/MarvelComicsBruceBanner The Incredible Hulk]].



** A weird reversal of this occurred when ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}'' was released. A large number of fans believed that the film was odd for not featuring Characters/{{Wolverine|JamesLoganHowlett}} or [[Characters/SpiderManPeterParker Spider-Man]], even saying it's not the Avengers without them. Despite the fact that they were largely the two Marvel heroes most recognizable to the general public, both of them had only been full-time Avengers since 2005, and in fact, a good 40 years of Avengers history barely included either of them (Spider-Man became a reserve member in the early '90s but was rarely used unless all team members were being called in).

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** A weird reversal of this occurred when ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}'' was released. A large number of fans believed that the film was odd for not featuring Characters/{{Wolverine|JamesLoganHowlett}} [[Characters/MarvelComicsLogan Wolverine]] or [[Characters/SpiderManPeterParker [[Characters/MarvelComicsPeterParker Spider-Man]], even saying it's not the Avengers without them. Despite the fact that they were largely the two Marvel heroes most recognizable to the general public, both of them had only been full-time Avengers since 2005, and in fact, a good 40 years of Avengers history barely included either of them (Spider-Man became a reserve member in the early '90s but was rarely used unless all team members were being called in).



* Speaking of [[Characters/IncredibleHulkBruceBanner the Hulk]], the character had fallen into this for most of his early history, up until 1986. While he did have his own successful [[Series/TheIncredibleHulk1977 television series]] and became something of a counter-cultural icon during [[UsefulNotes/TheSixties the '60s]], [[http://ew.com/article/2013/01/10/peter-david-the-incredible-hulk/ according to]] Creator/PeterDavid, the comics themselves suffered from very low sales to the point that the editor Bob Harras told him that Hulk was the book nobody wanted to write and handed it over to David out of desperation. It wasn't until David's landmark run on the title that Hulk comics started selling really well. That said, there are still readers today who feel that Hulk works better as part of an ensemble and that the number of stories he can carry by himself is limited. Truth be told, it still ''does'' apply to the Hulk, as there's little knowledge of what his comics version is like outside the fandom. Most people don't know Bruce can turn into a variety of Hulks due to his [[SplitPersonality multiple personality disorder]], only one of which has the traditional HulkSpeak and childlike intellect (the Savage Hulk), that Bruce/Hulk has been married a few times, or that they've had two sons and a daughter (Skaar, Hiro-Kala, and Lyra, though Hiro-Kala isn't in any position to turn up easily). People who know the Hulk may not be able to mention one single villain from his RoguesGallery, or just the Abomination.

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* Speaking of [[Characters/IncredibleHulkBruceBanner [[Characters/MarvelComicsBruceBanner the Hulk]], the character had fallen into this for most of his early history, up until 1986. While he did have his own successful [[Series/TheIncredibleHulk1977 television series]] and became something of a counter-cultural icon during [[UsefulNotes/TheSixties the '60s]], [[http://ew.com/article/2013/01/10/peter-david-the-incredible-hulk/ according to]] Creator/PeterDavid, the comics themselves suffered from very low sales to the point that the editor Bob Harras told him that Hulk was the book nobody wanted to write and handed it over to David out of desperation. It wasn't until David's landmark run on the title that Hulk comics started selling really well. That said, there are still readers today who feel that Hulk works better as part of an ensemble and that the number of stories he can carry by himself is limited. Truth be told, it still ''does'' apply to the Hulk, as there's little knowledge of what his comics version is like outside the fandom. Most people don't know Bruce can turn into a variety of Hulks due to his [[SplitPersonality multiple personality disorder]], only one of which has the traditional HulkSpeak and childlike intellect (the Savage Hulk), that Bruce/Hulk has been married a few times, or that they've had two sons and a daughter (Skaar, Hiro-Kala, and Lyra, though Hiro-Kala isn't in any position to turn up easily). People who know the Hulk may not be able to mention one single villain from his RoguesGallery, or just the Abomination.
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Literally mentioning Lovecraft to anyone my entire life has immediately garnered a "Lovecraft was racist" in response. Everyone knows about that.


* There are a lot of fans of the general [[CosmicHorrorStory style of horror]] Creator/HPLovecraft pioneered, but most peoples' knowledge ends with knowing the names of a few of his more famous monsters, like Cthulhu, the Deep Ones, and Shoggoths. Ask many fans of Lovecraftian horror about the Dreamlands, the Cats of Ulthar, [[Literature/CoolAir the air-conditioning zombie]], and other more obscure elements of his work, and you'll get a lot of blank stares. And that's not getting into the severe racism and classism he expressed in most of his works...

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* There are a lot of fans of the general [[CosmicHorrorStory style of horror]] Creator/HPLovecraft pioneered, but most peoples' knowledge ends with knowing the names of a few of his more famous monsters, like Cthulhu, the Deep Ones, and Shoggoths.Shoggoths, and that many of his works contain blatant and extreme racism to the point where many think it permeates his entire bibliography (It doesn't). Ask many fans of Lovecraftian horror about the Dreamlands, the Cats of Ulthar, [[Literature/CoolAir the air-conditioning zombie]], and other more obscure elements of his work, and you'll get a lot of blank stares. And that's not getting into the severe racism and classism he expressed in most of his works...
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** The idea that the X-Men are students being trained by Professor Xavier pretty much died in the late 70's when the team was separated from the Professor, learned to function as a team of adults without him, and later stated when he returned that they did not consider themselves to be students any longer. If you only saw the films, this might lead you to believe they transitioned into becoming teachers instead, but this did not happen until 1991 in the comics, over a decade after leaving the "student" label behind. Instead, the 80's introduced a new generation of students and called them ''ComicBook/TheNewMutants'' to distinguish them from the X-Men. For most of the 1980's, the X-Men weren't associated with the school at all, and when they were, it was as a "graduate" team.

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** The idea that the X-Men are students being trained by Professor Xavier pretty much died in the late 70's 70s when the team was separated from the Professor, learned to function as a team of adults without him, and later stated when he returned that they did not consider themselves to be students any longer. If you only saw the films, this might lead you to believe they transitioned into becoming teachers instead, but this did not happen until 1991 in the comics, over a decade after leaving the "student" label behind. Instead, the 80's 80s introduced a new generation of students and called them ''ComicBook/TheNewMutants'' to distinguish them from the X-Men. For most of the 1980's, 1980s, the X-Men weren't associated with the school at all, and when they were, it was as a "graduate" team.



* Speaking of Deathstroke, Marvel's {{ComicBook/Deadpool}} has surpassed him in popularity to such a degree that even Deadpool fans might not know who Deathstroke even is. It doesn't help that Deadpool has since far surpassed his relatively generic villain persona from the early 90's, and most people don't even know that he didn't develop his "merc-with-a-mouth" antihero reputation, as well as his fourth-wall breaking (his best known attribute), until much later.

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* Speaking of Deathstroke, Marvel's {{ComicBook/Deadpool}} has surpassed him in popularity to such a degree that even Deadpool fans might not know who Deathstroke even is. It doesn't help that Deadpool has since far surpassed his relatively generic villain persona from the early 90's, 90s, and most people don't even know that he didn't develop his "merc-with-a-mouth" antihero reputation, as well as his fourth-wall breaking (his best known attribute), until much later.



* The ''Literature/SherlockHolmes'' stories. Plenty of people have read them, but far, far more people are aware of him than have read any of them, or get the wrong impressions from adaptations and sundry works that make him a Victorian superhero. The original Sherlock was a SmallStepsHero who largely tackled small cases rather than solving murder mysteries. Someone like UsefulNotes/JackTheRipper is far above his pay grade. Likewise, TheWatson is the true protagonist of the books, not Sherlock, and the original Holmes was an asexual cocaine addict. Not to mention, nearly every element that people associate with Holmes, such as his trademark Deerstalker cap and Inverness cape, his gourd calabash pipe, and Watson's status as a clumsy, cowardly [[TheLoad load]], all come from adaptations of the character, likely the old 30's and 40's films starring Creator/BasilRathbone.

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* The ''Literature/SherlockHolmes'' stories. Plenty of people have read them, but far, far more people are aware of him than have read any of them, or get the wrong impressions from adaptations and sundry works that make him a Victorian superhero. The original Sherlock was a SmallStepsHero who largely tackled small cases rather than solving murder mysteries. Someone like UsefulNotes/JackTheRipper is far above his pay grade. Likewise, TheWatson is the true protagonist of the books, not Sherlock, and the original Holmes was an asexual cocaine addict. Not to mention, nearly every element that people associate with Holmes, such as his trademark Deerstalker cap and Inverness cape, his gourd calabash pipe, and Watson's status as a clumsy, cowardly [[TheLoad load]], all come from adaptations of the character, likely the old 30's 3's and 40's 40s films starring Creator/BasilRathbone.



* ''{{Series/Benson}}'' was a spin-off of one of the most renowned sitcoms of the 1970's (''{{Series/Soap}}''), and starred Robert Guillaume, an actor nearly anyone over the age of 45 will recognize. It was a regular Emmy nominee, with Guillaume winning once for Outstanding Lead Actor, and ran for five seasons. It's barely remembered in any capacity, other than perhaps to be mentioned as the sitcom that gave Creator/JerrySeinfeld his start, as well as featuring two future ''Franchise/StarTrek'' actors in very different roles from how Trekkies know them.

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* ''{{Series/Benson}}'' was a spin-off of one of the most renowned sitcoms of the 1970's 1970s (''{{Series/Soap}}''), and starred Robert Guillaume, an actor nearly anyone over the age of 45 will recognize. It was a regular Emmy nominee, with Guillaume winning once for Outstanding Lead Actor, and ran for five seasons. It's barely remembered in any capacity, other than perhaps to be mentioned as the sitcom that gave Creator/JerrySeinfeld his start, as well as featuring two future ''Franchise/StarTrek'' actors in very different roles from how Trekkies know them.



* Look through the series that dominated the Emmys during their day. Some are still well-remembered like ''Series/{{MASH}}'', ''Series/AllInTheFamily'', ''Series/{{Friends}}'', etc., but for the most part, your average Emmy-nominated series from the 60's, 70's, 80's and even 90's are hardly even remembered to ''exist'', never mind any specifics about them.

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* Look through the series that dominated the Emmys during their day. Some are still well-remembered like ''Series/{{MASH}}'', ''Series/AllInTheFamily'', ''Series/{{Friends}}'', etc., but for the most part, your average Emmy-nominated series from the 60's, 70's, 80's 60s, 70s, 80s and even 90's 90s are hardly even remembered to ''exist'', never mind any specifics about them.



** Public knowledge of practices of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints and other branches of Mormonism in general fall under this. The association of the faith with polygamy is a good example, as the largest branches of the faith (the Utah based Church and the Missouri based Community of Christ) both abandoned the practice at various points in the 1800's.[[note]]The Community of Christ (then known as the Reformed Church) abandoned the practice at the point it split from the mainline religion in the 1840s. After a severe campaign of oppression from the US Government, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints would abandoned the practice in two stages by outlawing new polygamists relationships within the United states in the "Manifesto" in the late 1800's, and a few years later announcing the end of polygamy church-wide in a second Manifesto which also proclaimed the faith would excommunicate anybody who attempted to practice polygamy going onwards.[[/note]] Only various splinter groups such as the Fundamentalist church have continued the practice of polygamy, but the main branches of the faith excommunicate anybody attempting to practice polygamy. However, it still causes a lot of painful eyerolls for members of the mainstream faith when the news reports on arrests of Fundamentalist leaders as "Mormon Prophet ARRESTED" over stock footage of Temple Square, or podcaster Creator/JoeRogan asking why people haven't stormed the Salt Lake City headquarters of the mainstream faith to stop crimes actually committed by the [[MistakenIdentity Fundamentalists]], and other similar misconceptions.

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** Public knowledge of practices of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints and other branches of Mormonism in general fall under this. The association of the faith with polygamy is a good example, as the largest branches of the faith (the Utah based Church and the Missouri based Community of Christ) both abandoned the practice at various points in the 1800's.1800s.[[note]]The Community of Christ (then known as the Reformed Church) abandoned the practice at the point it split from the mainline religion in the 1840s. After a severe campaign of oppression from the US Government, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints would abandoned the practice in two stages by outlawing new polygamists relationships within the United states in the "Manifesto" in the late 1800's, 1800s, and a few years later announcing the end of polygamy church-wide in a second Manifesto which also proclaimed the faith would excommunicate anybody who attempted to practice polygamy going onwards.[[/note]] Only various splinter groups such as the Fundamentalist church have continued the practice of polygamy, but the main branches of the faith excommunicate anybody attempting to practice polygamy. However, it still causes a lot of painful eyerolls for members of the mainstream faith when the news reports on arrests of Fundamentalist leaders as "Mormon Prophet ARRESTED" over stock footage of Temple Square, or podcaster Creator/JoeRogan asking why people haven't stormed the Salt Lake City headquarters of the mainstream faith to stop crimes actually committed by the [[MistakenIdentity Fundamentalists]], and other similar misconceptions.

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