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26th Jun '17 12:13:03 PM CV12Hornet
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* In ''Anime/VividredOperation'', the F-35 Lightning [=IIs=] shown are carrier launched, meaning they are the Navy C variant. However, they also appear to have an internal gun, which only the Air Force A variant has. They are also seen trying to attack ground targets with [=AMRAAMs=] rather than Harpoon missiles or laser guided bombs. Also, the military tries attacking ground targets with F-22 Raptors, despite the fact that F-22s are not designed for a ground attack role and can only carry GPS-guided bombs.

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* In ''Anime/VividredOperation'', the F-35 Lightning [=IIs=] shown are carrier launched, meaning they are the Navy C variant. However, they also appear to have an internal gun, which only the Air Force A variant has. They are also seen trying to attack ground targets with [=AMRAAMs=] rather than Harpoon missiles or laser guided bombs. Also, the military tries attacking ground targets with F-22 Raptors, despite the fact that F-22s are not designed for a ground attack role and can only carry GPS-guided bombs.bombs[[note]]The F-22 thing is at least more excusable for the fact that the [[YanksWithTanks US Air Force]] has actually used F-22s in the ground attack role, albeit against almost totally undefended ISIS targets[[/note]].
6th May '17 5:18:32 AM HighCrate
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* In the low-budget film ''American Warship'', CGI of a South Korean fighter desperately evading attack switches repeatedly between being an F-15 and an F-16. Also shown is stock footage of a C-130 Hercules dropping bombs... from a ventral bay. The C-130, is of course a cargo plane and, aside from literally shoving the near-car sized BLU-82 "daisy cutter" directly out the back of its cargo bay, can't drop bombs at all

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* In the low-budget film ''American Warship'', CGI of a South Korean fighter desperately evading attack switches repeatedly between being an F-15 and an F-16. Also shown is stock footage of a C-130 Hercules dropping bombs... from a ventral bay. The C-130, is of course a cargo plane and, aside from literally shoving the near-car sized BLU-82 "daisy cutter" directly out the back of its cargo bay, can't drop bombs at allall.
5th May '17 8:29:25 PM lcmortensen
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* '''ViewersAreMorons:''' As previously stated, most people won't be able to tell the difference between different aircraft types, or don't care. The only commercial aircraft that anyone in the audience can reasonably be expected to recognize is the Boeing 747, which (especially in older films and shows) tends to go to glamorous faraway places; other commercial aircraft are relatively interchangeable, and more likely to be headed somewhere pedestrian. Most of the time, the number of engines, wing configuration, or manufacturer won't even have to match what the actors are calling it—what airplane was in the background shot is not something most viewers are going to question (or are going to care to question).

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* '''ViewersAreMorons:''' As previously stated, most people won't be able to tell the difference between different aircraft types, or don't care. The only commercial aircraft that anyone in the audience can reasonably be expected to recognize is the Boeing 747, 747 and the Airbus A380, which (especially in older films and shows) tends to go to glamorous faraway places; other commercial aircraft are relatively interchangeable, and more likely to be headed somewhere pedestrian. Most of the time, the number of engines, wing configuration, or manufacturer won't even have to match what the actors are calling it—what airplane was in the background shot is not something most viewers are going to question (or are going to care to question).
30th Apr '17 12:49:52 AM Xtifr
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* Elizabeth Bear did not look up the length of transoceanic zeppelin voyages in writing ''New Amsterdam''. She implies one takes two weeks or so; the actual length of such flights was five or six days, and zeppelins purpose-built for transoceanic journeys like the Hindenburg could do a round trip in that time.

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* Elizabeth Bear did not look up the length of transoceanic zeppelin voyages in writing ''New Amsterdam''.''Literature/NewAmsterdam''. She implies one takes two weeks or so; the actual length of such flights was five or six days, and zeppelins purpose-built for transoceanic journeys like the Hindenburg could do a round trip in that time.
1st Apr '17 10:16:18 AM isolato
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*** Apaches ''can'' mount Sidewinders, but they never do because it makes more sense to carry four Stingers instead of two Sidewinders for the type of air-to-air engagement the Apache would likely (if at all) encounter.

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*** Apaches ''can'' mount Sidewinders, but they never do because it makes more sense to carry four Stingers instead of two Sidewinders for the type of air-to-air engagement engagement[[note]]i.e. self-defence against aerial threats[[/note]] the Apache would likely (if at all) encounter.
1st Apr '17 6:23:34 AM Wooboo
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** Lampshaded with the Orks. Their ungainly and dangerous aircraft look like thoroughly un-aerodynamic heaps of spare parts and junk fashioned into the rough shape of a plane, have a wide variety of armaments and features ranging from merely "pointless" to "completely insane" and have other qualities such as their flight dynamics determined by things like the color of their paint schemes. These craft are not only capable of controlled, powered flight, but are capable of competing with the much more high-tech and orderly craft of the other races. This is because Orks have subconscious latent [[RealityWarper reality-warping]] psychic powers, so while they create vehicles and weapons that shouldn't work, they do anyway because the Orks ''[[ClapYourHandsIfYouBelieve believe]]'' they would.
1st Apr '17 6:11:07 AM Wooboo
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* A few films and TV shows tend to depict aircraft and helicopter-mounted rocket pods, especially Russian UB-16-57UMP and UB-32 rocket pods as machine gun pods.
1st Apr '17 5:48:57 AM Wooboo
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*** The Apaches in the film also have longer stub-wing pylons, each with an extra hardpoint mounting two more Hydra rocket pods, as well as a span-like structure going from the engine cowlings to the wing pylons, giving them a rather strange Hind-like front profile.
23rd Mar '17 4:49:45 PM Kadorhal
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** Earlier games in the series utilized a Flanker that was referred to as the original Su-27 but was very clearly not one, having the canards of upgraded models like the Su-33 and original Su-35. Likewise for other planes that were still in development at the time of the games' releases; for instance, the F-22 in every game was not actually an F-22 until ''VideoGame/AceCombat3Electrosphere'', every prior game (released before the production F-22 was finalized) using the YF-22 prototype, of which only two existed, and the Su-47 in ''04'' being noticeably different from the real thing due to a lack of proper sources to model it after, being more of a hybrid between the real Su-47 and the fictional Su-43 from ''Electrosphere''.

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** Earlier games in the series utilized a Flanker that was referred to as the original Su-27 but was very clearly not one, having the canards of upgraded models like the Su-33 and original Su-35. Likewise for other planes that were still in development at the time of the games' releases; for instance, the F-22 in every game was not actually an F-22 until ''VideoGame/AceCombat3Electrosphere'', every prior game (released before the production F-22 was finalized) using the YF-22 prototype, of which only two existed, and the Su-47 in ''04'' being noticeably different from the real thing due to a lack of proper sources to model it after, being more of a hybrid between the real Su-47 and the fictional Su-43 from ''Electrosphere''.



** ''VideoGame/AceCombatInfinity'', set in the real world, has an alternate justification for why there are so many rare or obsolete planes still flying in 2019 - following the Ulysses asteroid impact and most governments' reducing military spending to focus on rebuilding, a company called Wernher and Noah Enterprises have taken up production of military craft, streamlining the process via "Advanced Automated Aviation Plants" to the point that planes can be built quickly, cheaply, and efficiently so long as blueprints for it exist. This makes mercenary squadrons like the players are in a very lucrative business (what with a surplus of planes but a shortage of pilots to fly them), but also allows terrorist groups access to vast amounts of military hardware. That said, it still stretches plausibility when you realize that both planes which didn't exist prior to the Ulysses impact in 1999, such as the Su-35S (first flight in 2008), the T-50 (2010), and the ATD-X (2016) and even fictional designs from the Strangereal universe, up to and including the R-101 Delphinus and X-49 Night Raven from ''Electrosphere'' (set in ''[[TwentyMinutesIntoTheFuture 2040]]'', for context) are available with little explanation other than them coming from an undefined "hostile country" (that or their actual designers from Strangereal suddenly existing in the ''Infinity'' world with no explanation).

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** ''VideoGame/AceCombatInfinity'', set in the real world, has an alternate justification for why there are so many rare or obsolete planes still flying in 2019 - following the Ulysses asteroid impact and most governments' reducing military spending to focus on rebuilding, a company called Wernher and Noah Enterprises have taken up production of military craft, streamlining the process via "Advanced Automated Aviation Plants" to the point that planes can be built quickly, cheaply, and efficiently so long as blueprints for it exist. This makes mercenary squadrons like the players are in a very lucrative business (what with a surplus of planes but a shortage of pilots to fly them), but also allows terrorist groups access to vast amounts of military hardware. That said, it still stretches plausibility when you realize that both planes which didn't exist prior to the Ulysses impact in 1999, such as the Su-35S (first flight in 2008), the T-50 (2010), and the ATD-X (2016) and even fictional designs from the Strangereal universe, up to and including the R-101 Delphinus and X-49 Night Raven from ''Electrosphere'' (set in ''[[TwentyMinutesIntoTheFuture 2040]]'', for context) are available with little explanation other than them coming from an undefined "hostile country" (that or their actual designers from Strangereal suddenly existing descriptions straight-up forgetting this game is set in the ''Infinity'' world with no explanation).an alternate universe).



** They also don't use Blackhawks, so the ubiquitous transports should be upgraded Hueys, or if it's really the future, V-22 Osprey tilt-rotors. There are also, incidentally, no Bradley [=IFVs=] in the Marine inventory. So if they'd just name-swapped the Army for the Marines in dialogue, almost everything except the carrier would work fine.

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** They also don't use Blackhawks, so the ubiquitous transports should be upgraded Hueys, or if it's really the future, V-22 Osprey tilt-rotors. There are also, incidentally, no Bradley [=IFVs=] in the Marine inventory. So if they'd If the developers had just name-swapped the Army for the Marines in dialogue, almost everything except the carrier would work fine.



* In ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid3SnakeEater'' Volgin has a great number of Mi-24 Hind helicopters under his command, but the game takes place in 1964, six years before the helicopter went into production and even the first prototype was still very early in development. To give the designers some credit, the helicopters are the early Hind-A version with the polygonal canopy, instead of the iconic ''bubble canopy'' of the Hind-D and later models, making it an example of [[CoolPlane Rare Helicopters]]. It's also worth noting that the game explains that Volgin has priority access to what was at the time the cutting edge of Soviet equipment, and in an Codec conversation you find out that this is the first time anyone from the West has encountered the design, with Snake being the one who initially suggests the "Hind" callsign based on the fact that it looks to be a sleeker derivative of the Mi-8 Hip (although that potentially opens another can of worms when you consider the Mi-8 wasn't actually adopted by the Soviet military until '67).

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* In ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid3SnakeEater'' Volgin has a great number of Mi-24 Hind helicopters under his command, but the game takes place in 1964, six years before the helicopter went into production and even the first prototype was still very early in development. To give the designers some credit, the helicopters are the early Hind-A version with the polygonal canopy, instead of the iconic ''bubble canopy'' of the Hind-D and later models, making it an example of [[CoolPlane [[RareVehicles Rare Helicopters]]. It's also worth noting that the game explains that Volgin has priority access to what was at the time the cutting edge of Soviet equipment, and in an a Codec conversation you find out that this is the first time anyone from the West has encountered the design, with Snake being the one who initially suggests the "Hind" callsign based on the fact that it looks to be a sleeker derivative of the Mi-8 Hip (although that potentially opens another can of worms when you consider the Mi-8 wasn't actually adopted by the Soviet military until '67).



* Averted by ''X-Plane''. While flight sims are generally pretty good at getting it right ''X-plane'''s attention to detail and real-world flight physics is so incredibly accurate it can be used, along with the right hardware, for getting one's FAA certification. That's right, they've [[ShownTheirWork shown so much work]] that many countries' aviation regulators agree it's just like flying a real airplane.

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* Averted by ''X-Plane''. While flight sims are generally pretty good at getting it right ''X-plane'''s ''X-Plane'''s attention to detail and real-world flight physics is so incredibly accurate it can be used, along with the right hardware, for getting one's FAA certification. That's right, they've [[ShownTheirWork shown so much work]] that many countries' aviation regulators agree it's just like flying a real airplane.
20th Mar '17 2:17:58 PM FordPrefect
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* Finally, the most {{egregious}} offenses committed towards aviation, like everything else, comes from '''not doing the research'''. [[TwentyFourHourNewsNetworks Cable News]], with their need to report on any incident or accident as quickly as possible for the first scoop, will invariably use information gleaned from the most misinformed and unreliable sources and witnesses. This "information" is of course then exaggerated and spun to grab the audience, resulting in reports of 600 dead from a 25-passenger commuter aircraft, or cameras following a plane with a damaged landing gear, [[StuffBlowingUp in the hopes of catching a fireball barreling down the runway]]. Other examples comes from doing half the research, and just shooting off aviation terms to sound technical.

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* Finally, the most {{egregious}} offenses committed towards aviation, like everything else, comes from '''not doing the research'''. [[TwentyFourHourNewsNetworks Cable News]], with their need to report on any incident or accident as quickly as possible for the first scoop, will invariably use information gleaned from the most misinformed and unreliable sources and witnesses. This "information" is of course then exaggerated and spun to grab the audience, resulting in reports of 600 dead from a 25-passenger commuter aircraft, or cameras following a plane with a damaged landing gear, [[StuffBlowingUp in the hopes of catching a fireball barreling down the runway]]. Other examples comes come from doing half the research, and just shooting off aviation terms to sound technical.
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