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18th Oct '17 10:15:47 AM xcountryguy
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*** [[spoiler: Of course, since the police had to close the museum to investigate the theft, [[AchievementsInIgnorance Isaac and Miria technically succeeded.]]]]

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*** [[spoiler: Of [[spoiler:Of course, since the police had to close the museum to investigate the theft, [[AchievementsInIgnorance Isaac and Miria technically succeeded.]]]]



** Kururi and Mairu ideas on "twin-ness" are baffling. [[spoiler: Thanks to their big brother, Izaya.]]

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** Kururi and Mairu ideas on "twin-ness" are baffling. [[spoiler: Thanks [[spoiler:Thanks to their big brother, Izaya.]]



** Utilized in one issue where a Skrull [[spoiler: who is secretly Hank Pym]] steals the [=FantastiCar=] and disappears, after calling out the coordinates for sector 1-C, and to scan for Ferric Oxide. According to the Thing, ferric oxide means rust, 1-C means Yan-C, which means Yancey Street, and together they mean the abandoned auto junkyard off of Yancey Street. This is then lampshaded by [[spoiler: Hank Pym revealing that he was hanging out on them the entire time, and if they had gone to a local pizza place, he would have been there]].

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** Utilized in one issue where a Skrull [[spoiler: who [[spoiler:who is secretly Hank Pym]] steals the [=FantastiCar=] and disappears, after calling out the coordinates for sector 1-C, and to scan for Ferric Oxide. According to the Thing, ferric oxide means rust, 1-C means Yan-C, which means Yancey Street, and together they mean the abandoned auto junkyard off of Yancey Street. This is then lampshaded by [[spoiler: Hank [[spoiler:Hank Pym revealing that he was hanging out on them the entire time, and if they had gone to a local pizza place, he would have been there]].



** When Raven and Robin are angsting over [[spoiler: apparently causing Jade's death]], Cyborg's response is to stick them in a crate together, hoping that that much angst will cancel itself out, like how two negatives equal a positive. Surprisingly, he's right.

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** When Raven and Robin are angsting over [[spoiler: apparently [[spoiler:apparently causing Jade's death]], Cyborg's response is to stick them in a crate together, hoping that that much angst will cancel itself out, like how two negatives equal a positive. Surprisingly, he's right.



--> Now, what other types of food are baked? Cakes, cookies and PIZZAS. What do pizzas stand for? [[spoiler:[[ItMakesSenseInContext The combined power of the Elements of Harmony.]]]] What does this mean? The magical power brought about with the [[spoiler: combined strength of the elements is fueled by dark magic]]. To put it in layponys terms, if pizzas are powered by dark magic, then [[spoiler: so are the Elements]].

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--> Now, what other types of food are baked? Cakes, cookies and PIZZAS. What do pizzas stand for? [[spoiler:[[ItMakesSenseInContext The combined power of the Elements of Harmony.]]]] What does this mean? The magical power brought about with the [[spoiler: combined [[spoiler:combined strength of the elements is fueled by dark magic]]. To put it in layponys terms, if pizzas are powered by dark magic, then [[spoiler: so [[spoiler:so are the Elements]].



* In the CrackFic ''FanFic/ACharmedLife'' Ryuk successfully seduces Light by arguing that since (according to an article in Light's porn magazine) "people in power tend to be more submissive in bed" and since it turns out that Light is naturally a twink he's definitely going to become a God now. [[spoiler: It becomes true because Ryuk makes it happen.]]

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* In the CrackFic ''FanFic/ACharmedLife'' Ryuk successfully seduces Light by arguing that since (according to an article in Light's porn magazine) "people in power tend to be more submissive in bed" and since it turns out that Light is naturally a twink he's definitely going to become a God now. [[spoiler: It [[spoiler:It becomes true because Ryuk makes it happen.]]



** Even more troll logic can be seen in Balthandier's plan in the final chapter. Not that it stops the heros from [[NiceJobBreakingItHero going along with it anyway]]. [[spoiler: The fal'Cie want to be reunited with their god. In order to do that a MASSIVE number of humans need to die, as in all of Cocoon. The fal'Cie power Cocoon, and so if they were to die then Cocoon would fall to Pulse, killing all the humans and bringing the gods back to the world. The problem? They cannot self destruct, and no human can harm them, so they create l'Cie to kill them. Okay so far... but then he tells the heros the plan to die at their hands thus killing all humans. Being heros they refuse, so enter the troll logic. If they don't do it then he'll manipulate the human military to do it instead. WAIT A MINUTE! You just told us humans can't hurt you and only we can. What will that accomplish? No matter, we now must stop you from manipulating the human military by killing you! What do you mean it was your plan all along to make us kill you and we just said we wouldn't? YOU HAVE TO BE STOPPED!]]

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** Even more troll logic can be seen in Balthandier's plan in the final chapter. Not that it stops the heros from [[NiceJobBreakingItHero going along with it anyway]]. [[spoiler: The [[spoiler:The fal'Cie want to be reunited with their god. In order to do that a MASSIVE number of humans need to die, as in all of Cocoon. The fal'Cie power Cocoon, and so if they were to die then Cocoon would fall to Pulse, killing all the humans and bringing the gods back to the world. The problem? They cannot self destruct, and no human can harm them, so they create l'Cie to kill them. Okay so far... but then he tells the heros the plan to die at their hands thus killing all humans. Being heros they refuse, so enter the troll logic. If they don't do it then he'll manipulate the human military to do it instead. WAIT A MINUTE! You just told us humans can't hurt you and only we can. What will that accomplish? No matter, we now must stop you from manipulating the human military by killing you! What do you mean it was your plan all along to make us kill you and we just said we wouldn't? YOU HAVE TO BE STOPPED!]]



* In ''VideoGame/DwarfFortress'', it's possible for you to convict a crime victim of the very crime committed upon them -- for example, convicting the dwarf who has had his blood drained of draining his own blood. Your dwarves will actually be 'outraged at the bizarre conviction against all reason of the victim of a crime recently.' When you start looking among the world's events, you seriously have to question certain deities' reasons for [[spoiler: letting a demon out of hell]]. Sure, the more evil gods of misery and blood might just want some more of it, gods of valor might want heroes to have something to destroy, but just about ANY god can do this for reasons concerning ANY part of their sphere, be it youth, knowledge, or ''rainbows''. It's been documented at least one god did this after pondering the ineffable subtleties of ''fish''. Perhaps the gods have their own AnimalWrongsGroup up there...

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* In ''VideoGame/DwarfFortress'', it's possible for you to convict a crime victim of the very crime committed upon them -- for example, convicting the dwarf who has had his blood drained of draining his own blood. Your dwarves will actually be 'outraged at the bizarre conviction against all reason of the victim of a crime recently.' When you start looking among the world's events, you seriously have to question certain deities' reasons for [[spoiler: letting [[spoiler:letting a demon out of hell]]. Sure, the more evil gods of misery and blood might just want some more of it, gods of valor might want heroes to have something to destroy, but just about ANY god can do this for reasons concerning ANY part of their sphere, be it youth, knowledge, or ''rainbows''. It's been documented at least one god did this after pondering the ineffable subtleties of ''fish''. Perhaps the gods have their own AnimalWrongsGroup up there...



* [[spoiler: Alicia's]] breakdown in ''VideoGame/ValkyriaChronicles'' is basically this trope getting out of hand in the mind of one person. She decides she is an inhuman monster, and ultimately tries to kill herself. The girl she used to be is dead, and she can never live a normal life again because her only future is one as a killing machine, exploited for her powers. [[CursedWithAwesome None of this is even slightly true.]]

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* [[spoiler: Alicia's]] [[spoiler:Alicia's]] breakdown in ''VideoGame/ValkyriaChronicles'' is basically this trope getting out of hand in the mind of one person. She decides she is an inhuman monster, and ultimately tries to kill herself. The girl she used to be is dead, and she can never live a normal life again because her only future is one as a killing machine, exploited for her powers. [[CursedWithAwesome None of this is even slightly true.]]



* ''VideoGame/ResidentEvil6'': [[spoiler: Simmons]]'s idea of preventing a disaster that ''might'' have happened should the President make the truth behind the Raccoon City Incident public was to cause an ''actual'' disaster by infecting the entire city of Tall Oaks with the C-Virus, including the President himself, and then nuking it to cover his tracks. Leon and Helena even [[LampshadeHanging lampshade this]].

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* ''VideoGame/ResidentEvil6'': [[spoiler: Simmons]]'s [[spoiler:Simmons]]'s idea of preventing a disaster that ''might'' have happened should the President make the truth behind the Raccoon City Incident public was to cause an ''actual'' disaster by infecting the entire city of Tall Oaks with the C-Virus, including the President himself, and then nuking it to cover his tracks. Leon and Helena even [[LampshadeHanging lampshade this]].



** In ''VisualNovel/ApolloJusticeAceAttorney'', one of the witnesses devolves into this frequently, notably [[spoiler: why he steals large panties (ForScience)]], and if you can actually keep up with his MotorMouth ScrollingText, he somehow manages to take the leap from discussing someone being shot "square in the forehead" to "krypton particles are rare" among other things.

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** In ''VisualNovel/ApolloJusticeAceAttorney'', one of the witnesses devolves into this frequently, notably [[spoiler: why [[spoiler:why he steals large panties (ForScience)]], and if you can actually keep up with his MotorMouth ScrollingText, he somehow manages to take the leap from discussing someone being shot "square in the forehead" to "krypton particles are rare" among other things.



** [[spoiler: Matt Engarde]] also proclaims that he never killed anyone, despite hiring an assassin to commit the case's murder for him, making him indirectly responsible. Either due to using ExactWords or his own warped belief in his own innocence, he actually manages to fool Phoenix's [[LieDetector Magatama]] with this.

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** [[spoiler: Matt [[spoiler:Matt Engarde]] also proclaims that he never killed anyone, despite hiring an assassin to commit the case's murder for him, making him indirectly responsible. Either due to using ExactWords or his own warped belief in his own innocence, he actually manages to fool Phoenix's [[LieDetector Magatama]] with this.
9th Oct '17 4:36:42 PM Josef5678
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* In YJ Abridged Abridged Episode 11 Part 2, Deathstroke is searching for the Lazarus Pit. He deduces that they are on the coast of England by thinking about coconuts, which grow on islands, and Australia is an island where Deathstroke was from when he was on that island with Oliver Queen, and Australia was populated by England's criminals. However, coconuts aren't indigenous to England and must be brought by swallows which stop to rest on the ocean so therefore the pit is off the coast of England.

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* In YJ Abridged Abridged ''WebVideo/YoungJusticeAbridged'' Episode 11 Part 2, Deathstroke is searching for the Lazarus Pit. He deduces that they are on the coast of England by thinking about coconuts, which grow on islands, and Australia is an island where Deathstroke was from when he was on that island with Oliver Queen, and Australia was populated by England's criminals. However, coconuts aren't indigenous to England and must be brought by swallows which stop to rest on the ocean so therefore the pit is off the coast of England.
8th Oct '17 9:29:24 PM darkslash
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* In YJ Abridged Abridged Episode 11 Part 2, Deathstroke is searching for the Lazarus Pit. He deduces that they are on the coast of England by thinking about coconuts, which grow on islands, and Australia is an island where Deathstroke was from when he was on that island with Oliver Queen, and Australia was populated by England's criminals. However, coconuts aren't indigenous to England and must be brought by swallows which stop to rest on the ocean so therefore the pit is off the coast of England.
8th Oct '17 9:48:16 AM nombretomado
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* The Youtube Channel "Spirit Science" is rather infamous for this. He claims that Atlantis was destroyed by martians, that Jews were time-travelling aliens, that the fact that there are no records about Akhenaten's family means he was conceived immaticulately, that under the sphinx is a giant underground city, which was not unveiled to the public because paramount pictures did not have enough money, that a woman in South America used her spirit energy to take a spaceship out of the pyramid to fight grey aliens and many more claims, and that the story of the [[BookOfExodus exodus]] in ''Literature/TheBible'' becomes more believable when people think that the Hebrews came from space.

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* The Youtube Channel "Spirit Science" is rather infamous for this. He claims that Atlantis was destroyed by martians, that Jews were time-travelling aliens, that the fact that there are no records about Akhenaten's family means he was conceived immaticulately, that under the sphinx is a giant underground city, which was not unveiled to the public because paramount pictures did not have enough money, that a woman in South America used her spirit energy to take a spaceship out of the pyramid to fight grey aliens and many more claims, and that the story of the [[BookOfExodus [[Literature/BookOfExodus exodus]] in ''Literature/TheBible'' becomes more believable when people think that the Hebrews came from space.
6th Oct '17 4:31:24 AM TastySauce
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'''Peasant:''' If... she... weighs... the same as a duck... she's made of wood.\\

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'''Peasant:''' If... she... weighs... the She... Weighs... The same as a duck... she's She's made of wood.\\



'''Another Peasant:''' ... a witch!\\

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'''Another Peasant:''' ... a A witch!\\
30th Sep '17 10:14:08 PM Metallix
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** "The Petals" has a great example when Gumball and Darwin try and find Leslie.
-->'''Gumball''': Hmmm...Petals. It's a clue!\\
'''Darwin''': What do you mean?\\
'''Gumball''': Think about it. What is petals? Flowers. What is made of flour? Bread. Who eats bread? Everyone. Apart from people who can't eat gluten. Who doesn't eat gluten? People on a made-up diet! What kind of people are usually on fad diets? Drama queens. Who are usually drama queens? Actors. And what do actors do in real life? They work as waiters in the food industry. And where do they lie about not working in the food industry? In their dressing rooms! ''[Darwin and Gumball open a nearby dressing room to find Leslie inside]'' \\
'''Darwin''': [[LampshadeHanging Huh. You we're right!]]\\
'''Gumball''': You said that like it's a surprise.
13th Sep '17 6:45:04 PM randomtroper89
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--> '''Elan:''' Woo! I'm invisible! You can't see me!\\
'''Roy:''' How I wish that were true...
** This is also [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0206.html his reaction]] when Haley reverses the definitions of adventure and adventur''er'' to make him feel better. Even Miko is weirded out by his brand of Insane Troll Logic.



** [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0700.html Tsukiko's grounds for her conclusion that the undead are nice people.]] Her reasoning is that [[HumansAreBastards the living are bastards]], so as the antithesis of life, the man-eating undead must actually be sweet, innocent, virtuous entities.]]

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** [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0700.html Tsukiko's grounds for her conclusion that the undead are nice people.]] Her reasoning is that [[HumansAreBastards the living are bastards]], so as the antithesis of life, the man-eating undead must actually be sweet, innocent, virtuous entities.]]



--> '''Elan:''' Woo! I'm invisible! You can't see me!
--> '''Roy:''' How I wish that were true...
** This is also [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0206.html his reaction]] when Haley reverses the definitions of adventure and adventur''er'' to make him feel better. Even Miko is weirded out by his brand of Insane Troll Logic.
** This is also the basis for the dwarves' fear of trees. The argument goes something like this:
--> '''Fact:''' Thor is the god of lightning.
--> '''Fact:''' The vast majority of lighting strikes trees.
--> '''Insane Troll Logic:''' Therefore, trees must be evil and/or Thor's sworn enemies, right?? Thor wouldn't waste a perfectly good lightning bolt on a tree just for shits and giggles, right?? (Well, yes, actually he would. But he never told the dwarves that...)

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--> '''Elan:''' Woo! I'm invisible! You can't see me!
--> '''Roy:''' How I wish that were true...
** This is also [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0206.html his reaction]] when Haley reverses the definitions of adventure and adventur''er'' to make him feel better. Even Miko is weirded out by his brand of Insane Troll Logic.
** This is also the basis for the dwarves' fear of trees. The argument goes something like this:
--> '''Fact:''' Thor is the god of lightning.
--> '''Fact:'''
The vast majority of lighting strikes trees.
--> '''Insane Troll Logic:'''
trees, sent by Thor is the god of lightning. Therefore, trees must be evil and/or Thor's sworn enemies, right?? enemies. Thor wouldn't waste a perfectly good lightning bolt on a tree just for shits and giggles, right?? (Well, yes, actually he would. But he never told the dwarves that...)
13th Sep '17 6:42:41 PM randomtroper89
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** [[{{Cloudcuckoolander}} Elan]] learned that Armor counts against Hide checks. This led him to the conclusion that going naked would make him invisible. {{Hilarity Ensue|s}}d.



** Similarly, [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0700.html Tsukiko's grounds for her conclusion that the undead are nice people.]] [[spoiler:For the link-shy, her reasoning is that [[HumansAreBastards the living are bastards]], so as the antithesis of life, the man-eating undead must actually be sweet, innocent, virtuous entities.]]

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** Similarly, [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0700.html Tsukiko's grounds for her conclusion that the undead are nice people.]] [[spoiler:For the link-shy, her Her reasoning is that [[HumansAreBastards the living are bastards]], so as the antithesis of life, the man-eating undead must actually be sweet, innocent, virtuous entities.]]



** [[{{Cloudcuckoolander}} Elan]] learned that Armor counts against Hide checks. This led him to the conclusion that going naked would make him invisible. {{Hilarity Ensue|s}}d.
12th Sep '17 11:30:50 PM randomtroper89
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** In the episode "Your Ed Here," Eddy believed that the things Kevin made him do to keep Kevin from revealing his middle name less embarrassing than his middle name, "Skipper." So Eddy really thinks that dressing up like Jimmy, [[HoYay/EdEddNEddy kissing Edd]], acting like a seal, etc are less embarrassing than his middle name? Seriously?

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** In the episode "Your Ed Here," Eddy believed that the things Kevin made him do to keep Kevin from revealing his [[EmbarrassingMiddleName middle name name]] less embarrassing than his middle name, "Skipper." So Eddy really thinks that dressing up like Jimmy, [[HoYay/EdEddNEddy kissing Edd]], acting like a seal, etc are less embarrassing than his middle name? Seriously?



%% No real life examples. They just degenerate into natter.

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%% No real life examples. They just degenerate into natter.
natter. Natter rhymes with Hatter. The Hatter from Alice in Wonderland is mad. Therefore adding real life examples will make you go mad.
12th Sep '17 10:58:14 PM randomtroper89
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--->'''Dan:''' I'm much smarter than you because scientists have invented many things.\\

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--->'''Dan:''' -->'''Dan:''' I'm much smarter than you because scientists have invented many things.\\
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