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28th Apr '16 6:43:32 PM Josef5678
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* Players of ''VideoGame/LeagueOfLegends'' can be prone to this. For example it's not unheard of for people to report players with high bounty for dying and "feeding the enemy" as a result. This of course ignores the fact that, to get the bounty in the first place, you have to **kill enemy team members** numerous times, making whatever extra gold you give on dying just a drop in the water compared to what you earned.
28th Apr '16 6:42:22 PM Josef5678
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* In ''Franchise/MassEffect'' a [[SociopathicHero Renegade]] [[PlayerCharacter Shepard]] can say:

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* In ''Franchise/MassEffect'' a ''Franchise/MassEffect'':
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* According to [[VideoGame/{{Portal2}} Cave Johnson]], you don't need lemons from life to make lemonade.

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* ''VideoGame/{{Portal 2}}'': According to [[VideoGame/{{Portal2}} Cave Johnson]], Johnson, you don't need lemons from life to make lemonade.
28th Apr '16 6:40:24 PM Josef5678
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* In ''VideoGame/DwarfFortress'', it's possible for you to convict a crime victim of the very crime committed upon them -- for example, convicting the dwarf who has had his blood drained of draining his own blood. Your dwarves will actually be 'outraged at the bizarre conviction against all reason of the victim of a crime recently.'
** A Fridge variety, but when you start looking among the world's events, [[spoiler: you seriously have to question certain deities' reasons for letting a demon out of hell. Sure, the more evil gods of misery and blood might just want some more of it, gods of valor might want heroes to have something to destroy, but just about ANY god can bring out a demon for reasons concerning ANY part of their sphere, be it youth, knowledge, or ''rainbows''. It's been documented at least one god brought a demon into Earth after pondering the ineffable subtleties of ''fish''. Perhaps the gods have their own AnimalWrongsGroup up there...]]

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* In ''VideoGame/DwarfFortress'', it's possible for you to convict a crime victim of the very crime committed upon them -- for example, convicting the dwarf who has had his blood drained of draining his own blood. Your dwarves will actually be 'outraged at the bizarre conviction against all reason of the victim of a crime recently.'
** A Fridge variety, but when
' When you start looking among the world's events, [[spoiler: you seriously have to question certain deities' reasons for letting a demon out of hell. Sure, the more evil gods of misery and blood might just want some more of it, gods of valor might want heroes to have something to destroy, but just about ANY god can bring out a demon for reasons concerning ANY part of their sphere, be it youth, knowledge, or ''rainbows''. It's been documented at least one god brought a demon into Earth after pondering the ineffable subtleties of ''fish''. Perhaps the gods have their own AnimalWrongsGroup up there...]]



* ''VideoGame/KidIcarusUprising'': [[spoiler:[[TheManBehindTheMan Hades]]]] manages to twist Pit [[spoiler:not wanting to get out of the WombLevel 'the old fashioned way']] into meaning ''Pit hates life''.

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* ''VideoGame/KidIcarusUprising'': [[spoiler:[[TheManBehindTheMan Hades]]]] manages One of [[spoiler:Hades']] many uses of insane troll logic is to twist Pit [[spoiler:not wanting [[spoiler:saying how he doesn't want to get out of the WombLevel 'the old fashioned way']] into meaning ''Pit hates life''.



** Really, this is fitting. [[spoiler:Hades]] is not only certifiably insane, but also a ''massive'' {{Troll}}, and this is just one of the many, many tricks pulled on poor Pit.
25th Apr '16 8:54:13 PM Josef5678
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* Many of Ernie and Bert's routines on ''Series/SesameStreet'' are variations on this.

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* %%* Many of Ernie and Bert's routines on ''Series/SesameStreet'' are variations on this.



* This is a madness talent in ''TabletopGame/DontRestYourHead''.

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* %%* This is a madness talent in ''TabletopGame/DontRestYourHead''.
25th Apr '16 8:53:25 PM Josef5678
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* An episode of ''Series/{{Charmed}}'' opened with [[MarySue Billie]] coming up with a completely logical plan to find her sister, Christy, who'd been abducted as a child: the demonic forces who likely abducted her would need a powerful agent to move through in the mortal world, and who's more powerful than corporate America? So, she found a guy who was abducted as a kid -- just like Christy -- and now works for "corporate America" (which part? [=GlaxoSmithKline=]? [=WalMart=]? Vivid Video?), and she's meeting with him for lunch to see if there's any trace of demonic residue. It says a lot about the general quality of the episode that this plan ''actually scores results''. Also keep in mind that in ''Charmed'' demons can teleport at their leisure, making their "powerful agent" completely unnecessary in the first place. Thus this is a case of PoesLaw, since its not meant to be a parody but it's taken seriously. Now you understand why in [[Website/TelevisionWithoutPity certain circles]] ''Charmed'' writers were known as 'Crack Monkeys'.

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* An episode of ''Series/{{Charmed}}'' opened with [[MarySue Billie]] Billie coming up with a completely logical plan to find her sister, Christy, who'd been abducted as a child: the demonic forces who likely abducted her would need a powerful agent to move through in the mortal world, and who's more powerful than corporate America? So, she found a guy who was abducted as a kid -- just like Christy -- and now works for "corporate America" (which part? [=GlaxoSmithKline=]? [=WalMart=]? Vivid Video?), and she's meeting with him for lunch to see if there's any trace of demonic residue. It says a lot about the general quality of the episode that this plan ''actually scores results''. Also keep in mind that in ''Charmed'' demons can teleport at their leisure, making their "powerful agent" completely unnecessary in the first place. Thus this is a case of PoesLaw, since its not meant to be a parody but it's taken seriously. Now you understand why in [[Website/TelevisionWithoutPity certain circles]] ''Charmed'' writers were known as 'Crack Monkeys'.
25th Apr '16 8:52:57 PM Josef5678
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* Hawkfrost from ''Literature/WarriorCats'' wants to kill Firestar because he couldn't save Tigerstar from Scourge's claws. Ignoring the fact that no one could do anything out of shock, and Scourge was [[LightningBruiser too fast]] for anyone to stop him.

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* ''Literature/WarriorCats'':
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Hawkfrost from ''Literature/WarriorCats'' wants to kill Firestar because he couldn't save Tigerstar from Scourge's claws. Ignoring the fact that no one could do anything out of shock, and Scourge was [[LightningBruiser too fast]] for anyone to stop him.



* Played for laughs when interviewing the main "The LHC will kill us all!" proponent on ''Series/TheDailyShow'', whose logic on giving it a 50/50 chance of destroying the world was "It'll either happen or it won't, thus there are two possibilities, and since it can be either one, it has to be 50/50."

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* ''Series/TheDailyShow'':
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Played for laughs when interviewing the main "The LHC will kill us all!" proponent on ''Series/TheDailyShow'', proponent, whose logic on giving it a 50/50 chance of destroying the world was "It'll either happen or it won't, thus there are two possibilities, and since it can be either one, it has to be 50/50."



* [[http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/1989-05-28/ This]] early ''ComicStrip/{{Dilbert}}'' strip:

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* ''ComicStrip/{{Dilbert}}:
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[[http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/1989-05-28/ This]] early ''ComicStrip/{{Dilbert}}'' strip:
25th Apr '16 8:50:13 PM Josef5678
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* The ''StarWars'' short story anthology ''TalesFromJabbasPalace'' has one story about Gartogg the Gamorrean. Even among the other [[SurroundedByIdiots not too bright guards]], he is considered [[ImprobablyLowIQ incredibly dumb]]. In his attempt to solve two murders so that he could be assigned the best jobs, he concluded that [[BrainFood snot vampire Dannik Jerriko]] must be the killer because there was no evidence to find and his species never leaves evidence when they kill someone. [[BatDeduction He turns out to be right after all.]]

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* The ''StarWars'' ''Franchise/StarWarsLegends'' short story anthology ''TalesFromJabbasPalace'' ''Literature/TalesFromJabbasPalace'' has one story about Gartogg the Gamorrean. Even among the other [[SurroundedByIdiots not too bright guards]], he is considered [[ImprobablyLowIQ incredibly dumb]]. In his attempt to solve two murders so that he could be assigned the best jobs, he concluded that [[BrainFood snot vampire Dannik Jerriko]] must be the killer because there was no evidence to find and his species never leaves evidence when they kill someone. [[BatDeduction He turns out to be right after all.]]



* In the Franchise/ResidentEvil novel ''City of the Dead'', Chief Irons holds Claire Redfield at gunpoint and demands to know why she's there. When she tries to explain that she only wants to finds her brother, Chris Redfield, Irons comes to the conclusion that since Chris had worked against him that Chris worked for Umbrella -- and by extension thus ''Claire'' works for Umbrella and was sent by Umbrella to kill Irons. And no amount of explaining on Claire's part can convince him otherwise, as he takes her complete and utter bewilderment of his accusations as an admission of guilt.

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* In the Franchise/ResidentEvil ''Franchise/ResidentEvil'' novel ''City of the Dead'', Chief Irons holds Claire Redfield at gunpoint and demands to know why she's there. When she tries to explain that she only wants to finds her brother, Chris Redfield, Irons comes to the conclusion that since Chris had worked against him that Chris worked for Umbrella -- and by extension thus ''Claire'' works for Umbrella and was sent by Umbrella to kill Irons. And no amount of explaining on Claire's part can convince him otherwise, as he takes her complete and utter bewilderment of his accusations as an admission of guilt.



* One ''{{Garfield}}'' strip has him [[NoFourthWall speaking to the readers]]:

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* One ''{{Garfield}}'' ''ComicStrip/{{Garfield}}'' strip has him [[NoFourthWall speaking to the readers]]:
25th Apr '16 8:49:00 PM Josef5678
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* In Literature/TheQuran Abu Lahab doesn't believe and staunchly opposes UsefulNotes/TheProphetMuhammad -- to the point where the latter prophesies that Lahab will eventually burn in hellfire as an unbeliever. Of course, Lahab not believing in such things is unmoved by such a threat. The IST / Catch-22 comes when some use this passage to reason that Lahab could have easily have proven Muhammad's prophecy wrong and thereby scored further points by simply converting to Islam -- as it would thereby let him avoid going to hell (as according to Islam). Yes, Lahab ought to have debunked the teachings and inspiredness of Muhammad by accepting the teachings and inspiredness of Muhammad, according to the DaRules as dictated by teachings and inspiredness of Muhammad...

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* In Literature/TheQuran Abu Lahab doesn't believe and staunchly opposes UsefulNotes/TheProphetMuhammad -- to the point where the latter prophesies that Lahab will eventually burn in hellfire as an unbeliever. Of course, Lahab not believing in such things is unmoved by such a threat. The IST / Catch-22 comes when some use this passage to reason that Lahab could have easily have proven Muhammad's prophecy wrong and thereby scored further points by simply converting to Islam -- as it would thereby let him avoid going to hell (as according to Islam). Yes, Lahab ought to have debunked the teachings and inspiredness of Muhammad by accepting the teachings and inspiredness of Muhammad, according to the DaRules rules as dictated by teachings and inspiredness of Muhammad...



* In ''A Study in Pink'', the first episode of ''Series/{{Sherlock}}'', the killer tells the eponymous detective that he committed no murders and that his victims all committed suicide because he gave them two pills: one poisoned, one not, and forced them at gunpoint to choose one, and every victim chose wrong. In a later episode, Sherlock apparently indulged in this during a game of Cluedo.

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* In ''A "[[Recap/SherlockS01E01AStudyInPink A Study in Pink'', Pink]]", the first episode of ''Series/{{Sherlock}}'', the killer tells the eponymous detective that he committed no murders and that his victims all committed suicide because he gave them two pills: one poisoned, one not, and forced them at gunpoint to choose one, and every victim chose wrong. In a later episode, Sherlock apparently indulged in this during a game of Cluedo.
22nd Apr '16 3:43:38 PM Josef5678
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* In Peter Jackson's ''Film/TheLordOfTheRings'' trilogy, Pippin argues to Treebeard that they'll be safer going ''toward'' Isengard rather than away from it. Subverted because he's talking out his ass and just wants Treebeard to see what Saruman has done to the nearby forest.
** Doubly subverted in that what he says actually ''does'' make a kind of sense, but Treebeard would never have thought so.
* Shaw's plan in ''Film/XMenFirstClass'' is built on this: mutants are "the children of the atom" (even though he and at least three other mutants manifested their mutations ''before'' the Trinity test, let alone Hiroshima), so starting a nuclear war would increase their power and allow them to rule the world (even though most mutants don't have powers that would allow them to survive either a nuclear strike or the resulting fallout).
** Subverted in that [[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation it's possible]] he's actually [[ItsAllAboutMe looking out for himself]], and only using that argument to convince people to help him. He, after all, would be perfectly suited to surviving a nuclear war.

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* In Peter Jackson's ''Film/TheLordOfTheRings'' trilogy, Pippin argues to Treebeard that they'll be safer going ''toward'' Isengard rather than away from it. Subverted because he's talking out his ass and just wants Treebeard to see what Saruman has done to the nearby forest.
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forest. Doubly subverted in that what he says actually ''does'' make a kind of sense, but Treebeard would never have thought so.
* Shaw's plan in ''Film/XMenFirstClass'' is built on this: mutants are "the children of the atom" (even though he and at least three other mutants manifested their mutations ''before'' the Trinity test, let alone Hiroshima), so starting a nuclear war would increase their power and allow them to rule the world (even though most mutants don't have powers that would allow them to survive either a nuclear strike or the resulting fallout).
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fallout). Subverted in that [[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation it's possible]] he's actually [[ItsAllAboutMe looking out for himself]], and only using that argument to convince people to help him. He, after all, would be perfectly suited to surviving a nuclear war.
22nd Apr '16 3:42:58 PM Josef5678
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* Justin Playfair makes all of his "deductions" this way in ''Film/TheyMightBeGiants''.

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* %%* Justin Playfair makes all of his "deductions" this way in ''Film/TheyMightBeGiants''.
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