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7th Dec '16 6:25:49 PM merotoker
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** It later gets revealed that a particularly vicious move by [[ThePiedPiperOfHamelin Max Piper]] rendered Fables virtually sterile, meaning that pregnancies are extremely rare. Some fans consider this a RetCon possibly done to soften the UnfortunateImplications of such a harshly condemnatory attitude.

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** It later gets revealed that a particularly vicious move by [[ThePiedPiperOfHamelin [[Literature/ThePiedPiperOfHamelin Max Piper]] rendered Fables virtually sterile, meaning that pregnancies are extremely rare. Some fans consider this a RetCon possibly done to soften the UnfortunateImplications of such a harshly condemnatory attitude.



* Averted in [[http://www.toplessrobot.com/2010/03/fan_fiction_friday_the_other_story.php this]] ''Anime/DragonBallZ'' fanfic, which Topless Robot found so disturbing that they refused to provide running commentary on it. [[spoiler:Videl gets an abortion because she heard it would sexually arouse her, and it's possible that she had sex to get pregnant''for this reason'']].

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* Averted in [[http://www.toplessrobot.com/2010/03/fan_fiction_friday_the_other_story.php this]] ''Anime/DragonBallZ'' fanfic, which Topless Robot found so disturbing that they refused to provide running commentary on it. [[spoiler:Videl gets an abortion because she heard it would sexually arouse her, and it's possible that she had sex to get pregnant''for pregnant ''for this reason'']].



* In ''[[Film/TheFly1986 The Fly]]'', abortion is still depicted with a negative aspect, but the heroine's decision to get an abortion is given the defense that her baby might not be human. In the sequel ''Film/TheFlyII'', she didn't, and it wasn't, but he got better.

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* In ''[[Film/TheFly1986 The Fly]]'', ''Film/{{The Fly|1986}}'', abortion is still depicted with a negative aspect, but the heroine's decision to get an abortion is given the defense that her baby might not be human. In the sequel ''Film/TheFlyII'', she didn't, and it wasn't, but he got better.



* In the movie ''Detective Story'', Kirk Douglas plays Jim [=McLeod=], a police officer with a jones to bust an abortionist (when, being in the '50s, abortion is a criminal offense). The doctor assumes [=McLeod=] is out to get him because the doc once performed an abortion of Mrs. [=McLeod=]. Not so! [=McLeod=] didn't know about that at all. When [=McLeod=] finds out, he's more upset because his wife had the abortion before they met.
** In an example of extreme ValuesDissonance, the head of the Hays Commission tried to rain down hellfire on the film, saying that abortion was such an evil that you couldn't even discuss it in a film, even if you were portraying it in a fairly negative fashion.

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* In the movie ''Detective Story'', Kirk Douglas plays Jim [=McLeod=], a police officer with a jones to bust an abortionist (when, being in the '50s, abortion is a criminal offense). The doctor assumes [=McLeod=] is out to get him because the doc once performed an abortion of Mrs. [=McLeod=]. Not so! [=McLeod=] didn't know about that at all. When [=McLeod=] finds out, he's more upset because his wife had the abortion before they met.
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met. In an example of extreme ValuesDissonance, the head of the Hays Commission tried to rain down hellfire on the film, saying that abortion was such an evil that you couldn't even discuss it in a film, even if you were portraying it in a fairly negative fashion.



* {{Averted|Trope}} in ''Film/TheLastAmericanVirgin''. [[TheCasanova Smooth Operator]] Rick gets titular good-girl Karen pregnant then dumps her. [[OrdinaryHighSchoolStudent Protagonist]] Gary sells his stereo and takes heat from [[BattleaxeNurse Nurse Rached]] to get Karen an abortion, and that's all that's heard regarding pregnancy and procedure. This film is based on the Israeli film [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eskimo_Limon Eskimo Limon]] which features the same pregnancy-abortion plot point.
** Although [[MoodWhiplash the ending]] shows that the 'good' part is rather [[BitchInSheepsClothing debatable]].

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* {{Averted|Trope}} in ''Film/TheLastAmericanVirgin''. [[TheCasanova Smooth Operator]] Rick gets titular good-girl Karen pregnant then dumps her. [[OrdinaryHighSchoolStudent Protagonist]] Gary sells his stereo and takes heat from [[BattleaxeNurse Nurse Rached]] to get Karen an abortion, and that's all that's heard regarding pregnancy and procedure. This film is based on the Israeli film [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eskimo_Limon Eskimo Limon]] which features the same pregnancy-abortion plot point.
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point. Although [[MoodWhiplash the ending]] shows that the 'good' part is rather [[BitchInSheepsClothing debatable]].



* ''Film/Code46'': {{Inverted}}. The authorities give Maria an abortion without her consent because William had got her pregnant, and wipe her memory afterward. [[spoiler: It's because she's a clone of his mother, which violates the "Code 46" of the title.]]

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* ''Film/Code46'': {{Inverted}}.{{Inverted|Trope}}. The authorities give Maria an abortion without her consent because William had got her pregnant, and wipe her memory afterward. [[spoiler: It's because she's a clone of his mother, which violates the "Code 46" of the title.]]



* [[SoapOpera Soap Operas]] like to play this every which way. Of the few characters who ''have'' had abortions, most of them are usually "Good Girls" in very sympathetic situations (rape, teen pregnancy, etc). Those who don't go through with it usually end up having a ConvenientMiscarriage.

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* [[SoapOpera Soap Operas]] {{Soap Opera}}s like to play this every which way. Of the few characters who ''have'' had abortions, most of them are usually "Good Girls" in very sympathetic situations (rape, teen pregnancy, etc). Those who don't go through with it usually end up having a ConvenientMiscarriage.



* Arlene of ''Series/TrueBlood'' finds herself pregnant with [[spoiler: her serial killer ex-husband's baby]], which she decidedly doesn't want. However, she's against abortion, and instead tries to get a witch to do a magical abortion (which she, for some reason, considers OK). [[spoiler: It doesn't work]].

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* Arlene of ''Series/TrueBlood'' finds herself pregnant with [[spoiler: her serial killer ex-husband's baby]], which she decidedly doesn't want. However, she's against abortion, and instead tries to get a witch to do a magical abortion (which she, for some reason, considers OK). [[spoiler: It doesn't work]].work.]]



** Played straight again in another episode, where Gently arrests an abortionist he catches about to begin the procedure. She had previously {{discussed}} it with him, as a hypothetical scenario, and claimed that abortion was for the general good because most of the women coming to her were unable to care for a child, and claimed that abortion would soon be legalized anyway. Unusually Gently, who is for racial tolerance, gay rights, and multiculturalism, is completely opposed to abortion, whereas Bacchus, who would be somewhere between Jack Regan and Gene Hunt if he weren't on a tight leash, is more open to the idea of legalization (perhaps because of his own [[spoiler:ShotgunMarriage]]).

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** Played straight again in another episode, where Gently arrests an abortionist he catches about to begin the procedure. She had previously {{discussed}} {{discussed|Trope}} it with him, as a hypothetical scenario, and claimed that abortion was for the general good because most of the women coming to her were unable to care for a child, and claimed that abortion would soon be legalized anyway. Unusually Gently, who is for racial tolerance, gay rights, and multiculturalism, is completely opposed to abortion, whereas Bacchus, who would be somewhere between Jack Regan and Gene Hunt if he weren't on a tight leash, is more open to the idea of legalization (perhaps because of his own [[spoiler:ShotgunMarriage]]).



* ''WesternAnimation/RickAndMorty'' Beth and Jerry were originally planning on having an abortion after conceiving Summer when they were 17, but blew a tire on the way to the clinic and decided against it.

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* ''WesternAnimation/RickAndMorty'' ''WesternAnimation/RickAndMorty'': Beth and Jerry were originally planning on having an abortion after conceiving Summer when they were 17, but blew a tire on the way to the clinic and decided against it.



** In "Kenny Dies" he convinces a woman who ''wanted'' her baby to get an abortion so the stem cells could be used to save Kenny's life. Except [[spoiler:[[MoralEventHorizon it was actually a plan]] [[ItMakesSenseInContext to get pizza]].]] Though this one could be debated, as he didn't come up with that plan until long after he started getting stem cells to help Kenny.

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** In "Kenny Dies" he convinces a woman who ''wanted'' her baby to get an abortion so the stem cells could be used to save Kenny's life. Except [[spoiler:[[MoralEventHorizon it was actually a plan]] [[ItMakesSenseInContext to get pizza]].]] pizza]]]]. Though this one could be debated, as he didn't come up with that plan until long after he started getting stem cells to help Kenny.
6th Dec '16 7:46:59 PM Fireblood
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* This is the message of ''Film/WhereAreMyChildren'', likely the first film which ever involved abortion, released 1916. It revolves around a prosecutor who, after securing a conviction against a doctor for performing a botched abortion, discovers his wife was one of the man's clients, along with several of her friends. All of them got abortions because having children interferes with their social life. When he confronts his wife, she is remorseful, and they are then shown as a sad, lonely childless couple. On the other hand, it favors contraception, then also illegal and very controversial. Another character who gets an abortion dies from damage suffered from a BackAlleyDoctor.

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* This is the message of ''Film/WhereAreMyChildren'', likely the first film which ever involved abortion, released 1916. It revolves around a prosecutor who, after securing a conviction against a doctor for performing a botched abortion, discovers his wife was one of the man's clients, along with several of her friends. All of them got abortions because having children interferes with their social life. When he confronts his wife, she is remorseful, and they are then shown as a sad, lonely childless couple. On the other hand, it favors contraception, then also illegal and very controversial. abortions at the time were very dangerous given the illegal conditions which existed, although the film portrays them as inherently psychologically damaging too (which is not the case, however [[ScienceMarchesOn no one likely knew this at the time]]). The danger is shown with another woman that Another character who gets an abortion dies from damage suffered from going to a BackAlleyDoctor.BackAlleyDoctor. It was [[BannedInChina banned in Pennsylvania]] for being "indecent".
6th Dec '16 12:34:18 PM jamespolk
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* 1979 Russian film ''Film/SchoolWaltz''--abortions weren't as stigmatized in the UsefulNotes/SovietUnion as they are in some quarters of the United States, and Zolya's mother urges her to get one so as not to be burdened by single motherhood. But after making the appointment and going to the hospital and even laying down on a bed to await her turn, Zolya changes her mind and hurriedly leaves.
3rd Dec '16 10:23:20 AM jamespolk
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* This is the message of ''Film/WhereAreMyChildren?'', likely the first film which ever involved abortion, released 1916. It revolves around a prosecutor who, after securing a conviction against a doctor for performing a botched abortion, discovers his wife was one of the man's clients, along with several of her friends. This is portrayed as solely because having children interferes with their social life. When he confronts his wife, she is remorseful, and they are then shown as a sad, lonely childless couple. On the other hand, it favors contraception, then also illegal and very controversial. To be fair, abortions at the time were very dangerous given the illegal conditions which existed, although the film portrays them as inherently psychologically damaging too (which is not the case, however [[ScienceMarchesOn no one likely knew this at the time]]). The danger is shown with another woman that dies from one. It was [[BannedInChina banned in Pennsylvania]] for being "indecent".

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* This is the message of ''Film/WhereAreMyChildren?'', ''Film/WhereAreMyChildren'', likely the first film which ever involved abortion, released 1916. It revolves around a prosecutor who, after securing a conviction against a doctor for performing a botched abortion, discovers his wife was one of the man's clients, along with several of her friends. This is portrayed as solely All of them got abortions because having children interferes with their social life. When he confronts his wife, she is remorseful, and they are then shown as a sad, lonely childless couple. On the other hand, it favors contraception, then also illegal and very controversial. To be fair, abortions at the time were very dangerous given the illegal conditions which existed, although the film portrays them as inherently psychologically damaging too (which is not the case, however [[ScienceMarchesOn no one likely knew this at the time]]). The danger is shown with another woman that Another character who gets an abortion dies from one. It was [[BannedInChina banned in Pennsylvania]] for being "indecent". damage suffered from a BackAlleyDoctor.



* In ''Love With The Proper Stranger'', Rocky helps Angie by scheduling and paying for an appointment with a BackAlleyDoctor, but when they both see the conditions of the "office", they flee in horror.

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* In ''Love With The Proper Stranger'', ''Film/LoveWithTheProperStranger'', Rocky helps Angie by scheduling and paying for an appointment with a BackAlleyDoctor, but when they both see the conditions of the "office", they flee in horror.
28th Nov '16 10:56:37 AM kyeo
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* In ''Love With The Proper Stranger'', Rocky helps Angie by scheduling and paying for an appointment with a BackAlleyDoctor, but when they both see the conditions of the "office", they flee in horror.
22nd Nov '16 7:17:27 PM Fireblood
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** Peter tells a story about how he and Lois had gone to get an abortion when she was pregnant with Meg, but backed out, when they arrived at the clinic and found out the abortionist had one arm. Another time he mentioned that he could find the black market as an actual store, just like the back alley abortionist, then said that he was glad she changed her mind but the important thing was that he ''found'' the guy.

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** Peter tells a story about how he and Lois had gone to get an abortion when she was pregnant with Meg, but backed out, out when they arrived at the clinic and found out the abortionist had one arm. Another time he mentioned that he could find the black market as an actual store, just like the back alley abortionist, then said that he was glad she changed her mind but the important thing was that he ''found'' the guy.



** In the episode "[[Recap/FamilyGuyS8E21PartialTermsOfEndearment Partial Terms of Endearment]]" Lois agrees to be a surrogate mother for another couple, however, the couple dies and she must decide whether or not to get an abortion. [[spoiler: She does.]] The episode was finished but it was [[BannedEpisode banned from airing on FOX]]; however, it is available on DVD and it is not known if it will air on Creator/AdultSwim.
** Peter's mother tried to get an abortion when she had Peter because it was from an affair. Because it was in Mexico, the abortion process involved hanging from a bar and being beaten like a pinata by a bunch of kids. As she was already full term when she decided to abort, Peter is born full size and healthy. When she sees him, she falls in love and keeps him. Though knowing [[{{Jerkass}} Peter]], he may very well have gotten brain damage from the procedure.
** Also spoofed in a quick gag when the family is watching ''Series/MurderSheWrote'' and Jessica casually mentions that she once had an abortion. "Aha!" says Peter, "So ''she's'' the murderer!"

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** In the episode "[[Recap/FamilyGuyS8E21PartialTermsOfEndearment Partial Terms of Endearment]]" Lois agrees to be a surrogate mother for another couple, however, couple. However, the couple dies and she must decide whether or not to get an abortion. [[spoiler: She does.]] The episode was finished but it was [[BannedEpisode banned from airing on FOX]]; however, it is available on DVD and it is not known if it will air on Creator/AdultSwim.
** Peter's mother tried to get an abortion when before she had Peter because it was from an affair. Because it was in Mexico, the abortion process involved hanging from a bar and being beaten like a pinata by a bunch of kids. As she was already full term when she decided to abort, Peter is born full size and healthy. When she sees him, she falls in love and keeps him. Though knowing [[{{Jerkass}} Peter]], he may very well have gotten brain damage from the procedure.
** Also spoofed in a quick gag when the family is watching ''Series/MurderSheWrote'' and Jessica casually mentions that she once had an abortion. "Aha!" says Peter, Peter. "So ''she's'' the murderer!"



* ''WesternAnimation/RickAndMorty'' Beth and Jerry were originally planning on having an abortion after conceiving Summer when they were 17 but blew a tire on the way to the clinic and decided to keep their daughter Summer.

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20th Nov '16 10:33:48 PM __Vano
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The other 'a' word (adoption) hardly ever enters into consideration even if abortion itself is ruled out. There are several reasons for this. In serial media such as television and comic books, a baby given up for adoption can be seen as a dangling plot thread that the audience will expect to be [[WhatHappenedToTheMouse picked up some day]]. Also, adoption requires carrying the baby to term. If the woman merely needs to figure out what to do with the baby, this is irrelevant, but if she wants to conceal the fact that she was ever pregnant to begin with, it may not suffice. And abortion can be counted on to get a stronger reaction from the audience than adoption. Similar story logic applies to why we rarely see women taking advantage of the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safe-haven_law safe-haven laws]] that exist in all 50 states and simply allow them to "surrender" a child to the state without even contacting an adoption agency.

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The other 'a' word (adoption) hardly ever enters into consideration even if abortion itself is ruled out. There are several reasons for this. In serial media such as television and comic books, a baby given up for adoption can be seen as a dangling plot thread that the audience will expect to be [[WhatHappenedToTheMouse picked up some day]]. Also, adoption requires carrying the baby to term. If the woman merely needs to figure out what to do with the baby, this is irrelevant, but if she wants to conceal the fact that she was ever pregnant to begin with, it may not suffice. And abortion can be counted on to get a stronger reaction from the audience than adoption. Similar story logic applies to why we rarely see women [[SocialServicesDoesNotExist taking advantage of the the]] [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safe-haven_law safe-haven laws]] that exist in all 50 states and simply allow them to "surrender" a child to the state without even contacting an adoption agency.
20th Nov '16 10:15:00 PM __Vano
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Part of the reason for this is to both avoid the wrath of the MoralGuardians, and as well as avoid polarizing the audience (though this can happen anyway if her decision not to abort is made in a hamfisted manner)[[note]]Only 50% of Americans support abortion on demand, with the other 50% either only approving of abortion under severe circumstances or never approving at all. [[/note]], but it's mostly because if the character had an abortion and everyone went home happy, [[RuleOfDrama it would make for an uninteresting and/or short story]]. Writing a character who has an abortion and feels ambivalent or uneasy about her choice is generally verboten. However, if the character decides to keep the child, a large avenue of potential plot lines opens up for the writer to exploit. For example, new Characters, all manner of CharacterDevelopment and WeddingAndEngagementTropes, etc.

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Part of the reason for this is to both avoid the wrath of the MoralGuardians, and as well as avoid polarizing the audience (though this can happen anyway if her decision not to abort is made in a hamfisted manner)[[note]]Only 50% of Americans support abortion on demand, with the other 50% either only approving of abortion under severe circumstances or never approving at all. [[/note]], but it's mostly because if the character had an abortion and everyone went home happy, [[RuleOfDrama it would make for an uninteresting and/or short story]].story]], or worse, [[BrokenAesop imply that abortion is nothing special]]. Writing a character who has an abortion and feels ambivalent or uneasy about her choice is generally verboten. However, if the character decides to keep the child, a large avenue of potential plot lines opens up for the writer to exploit. For example, new Characters, all manner of CharacterDevelopment and WeddingAndEngagementTropes, etc.
20th Nov '16 10:07:28 PM tv1995
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* ''WesternAnimation/RickAndMorty'' Beth and Jerry were originally planning on having an abortion after conceiving Summer when they were 17 but blew a tire on the way to the clinic and decided to keep their daughter Summer.
10th Nov '16 6:45:50 PM DrOO7
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** Subverted with Morgan [=DeWitt=], an ex-girlfriend of Ridge's who came to town still bitter about how the abortion she'd had years ago. Flashbacks indicated that she had in fact ''wanted'' the baby, but had been browbeaten into terminating the pregnancy by Ridge's [[MyBelovedSmother controlling mother]] Stephanie, who didn't feel that Morgan was good enough for Ridge, nor that the two were ready to take on the responsibility of parenthood.

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** *** Subverted with Morgan [=DeWitt=], an ex-girlfriend of Ridge's who came to town still bitter about how the abortion she'd had years ago. Flashbacks indicated that she had in fact ''wanted'' the baby, but had been browbeaten into terminating the pregnancy by Ridge's [[MyBelovedSmother controlling mother]] Stephanie, who didn't feel that Morgan was good enough for Ridge, nor that the two were ready to take on the responsibility of parenthood.
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