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25th Aug '16 6:30:12 AM StFan
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* The Limper in Glen Cook's ''Literature/BlackCompany'' fits this trope. Even after the Company: killed him twice, live through what seem at the end to be hundreds of attempts to kill them off, and sent the real BigBad back into his hole in the ground, Limper still thinks he has a chance to kill them by following after them after they leave. Needless to say, he failed miserably, and he wasn't even up against the company at the time, just the people who decided not to go with them.

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* The Limper in Glen Cook's ''Literature/BlackCompany'' ''Literature/TheBlackCompany'' fits this trope. Even after the Company: killed him twice, live through what seem at the end to be hundreds of attempts to kill them off, and sent the real BigBad back into his hole in the ground, Limper still thinks he has a chance to kill them by following after them after they leave. Needless to say, he failed fails miserably, and he wasn't isn't even up against the company at the time, just the people who decided not to go with them.
24th Jul '16 5:50:03 PM Teakay
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* Certain stories where the heroine wins wealth and treasure by being nice to a supernatural creature. The WickedStepmother finds out how it happened and sends her own daughter to get some of that... only they invariably leave out the "be nice" part and get nothing -- or worse.
21st Jul '16 3:29:30 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* When Wrestling/VinceMcMahon challenges Wrestling/CMPunk to a match, Punk happily accepts, saying Vince is a feeble, senile old man and beating him will be easy. Especially egregious because Punk is normally a DangerouslyGenreSavvy FourthWallObserver, so he should have known that Vince is a BadassGrandpa.

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* When Wrestling/VinceMcMahon challenges Wrestling/CMPunk to a match, Punk happily accepts, saying Vince is a feeble, senile old man and beating him will be easy. Especially egregious because Punk is normally a DangerouslyGenreSavvy savvy FourthWallObserver, so he should have known that Vince is a BadassGrandpa.



** In the end, it's not Genre Blindness at all. He's DangerouslyGenreSavvy, but covers it with a lot of [[ObfuscatingStupidity Obfuscating Bond]] [[BondVillainStupidity Villain Stupidity]]. [[spoiler: The only reason he left the players alive as long as he did was that he ''wanted'' them to become stronger than he is. The entire fight is Arthas giving more and more to the battle, until he finally holds nothing back and fights with his full strength. If the players die, unfortunate, but still good minions. If they ''don't'', he's found minions that surpass even his ''own'' immense power, which is what he ''wants'', being a necromancer with near-unbreakable control over his resurrected minions, and the ability to trap souls in his blade. The raid can't actually slay him on its own - either you're weaker and he kills you, or you're stronger, [[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment and he]] ''[[FailureIsTheOnlyOption kills you]]''. Knowing that [=NPCs=] are next to useless compared to players, he begins his reanimation ritual, mocking the frozen Tirion while he and the crippled and restrained Bolvar watch helplessly. And, in the end, he only loses because Tirion's rescue subverts every boss battle trope that [=WoW=] has. When, in any other Final Boss Battle, does an ''NPC'' disarm and permanently paralyze the boss, turning him into a glorified ''training dummy''? Arthas, with 10% HP remaining, can actually be struck by weak melee hits until death (which can take something like an hour, if Tirion is the only one doing it). Let's rephrase that: Arthas, the BigBad of an entire expansion, dies because an NPC gets up off the ground after [[TheProtagonist the party]] dies, and [[PrecisionFStrike flipping]] ''solos'' him. '''''[[SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome Outside of a cutscene.]]''''']]

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** In the end, it's not Genre Blindness at all. He's DangerouslyGenreSavvy, smart, but covers it with a lot of [[ObfuscatingStupidity Obfuscating Bond]] [[BondVillainStupidity Villain Stupidity]]. [[spoiler: The only reason he left the players alive as long as he did was that he ''wanted'' them to become stronger than he is. The entire fight is Arthas giving more and more to the battle, until he finally holds nothing back and fights with his full strength. If the players die, unfortunate, but still good minions. If they ''don't'', he's found minions that surpass even his ''own'' immense power, which is what he ''wants'', being a necromancer with near-unbreakable control over his resurrected minions, and the ability to trap souls in his blade. The raid can't actually slay him on its own - either you're weaker and he kills you, or you're stronger, [[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment and he]] ''[[FailureIsTheOnlyOption kills you]]''. Knowing that [=NPCs=] are next to useless compared to players, he begins his reanimation ritual, mocking the frozen Tirion while he and the crippled and restrained Bolvar watch helplessly. And, in the end, he only loses because Tirion's rescue subverts every boss battle trope that [=WoW=] has. When, in any other Final Boss Battle, does an ''NPC'' disarm and permanently paralyze the boss, turning him into a glorified ''training dummy''? Arthas, with 10% HP remaining, can actually be struck by weak melee hits until death (which can take something like an hour, if Tirion is the only one doing it). Let's rephrase that: Arthas, the BigBad of an entire expansion, dies because an NPC gets up off the ground after [[TheProtagonist the party]] dies, and [[PrecisionFStrike flipping]] ''solos'' him. '''''[[SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome Outside of a cutscene.]]''''']]



** Though Lazarevic is DangerouslyGenreSavvy in certain places, like when Nate tries to take one of his men hostage (which he solves by [[ShootTheHostage shooting the hostage]] himself), he really needs to learn that you never pull a NotSoDifferent speech on the hero when there's still monsters crawling about. [[spoiler: Chances are they're right behind you and ready to beat you to death, thus sparing the hero from having to finish you himself.]]

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** Though Lazarevic is DangerouslyGenreSavvy savvy in certain places, like when Nate tries to take one of his men hostage (which he solves by [[ShootTheHostage shooting the hostage]] himself), he really needs to learn that you never pull a NotSoDifferent speech on the hero when there's still monsters crawling about. [[spoiler: Chances are they're right behind you and ready to beat you to death, thus sparing the hero from having to finish you himself.]]



** Despite being practically the patron saint of DangerouslyGenreSavvy, Tarquin has one major weakness. [[BigBadWannabe He]] simply cannot, ''will not'' acknowledge that he isn't the BigBad of the story.

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** Despite being practically the patron saint of DangerouslyGenreSavvy, savvy, Tarquin has one major weakness. [[BigBadWannabe He]] simply cannot, ''will not'' acknowledge that he isn't the BigBad of the story.



** Mynd was this at first. Although he is a smart and dangerous villain, he is handicapped by not actually [[NoFourthWall reading the comic itself]]. [[http://www.bobandgeorge.com/archives/011024 Here is a prime example]], where he recognizes Proto Man as a truly competent fighter, yet could not resist announcing his plans to the audience. [[http://www.bobandgeorge.com/archives/011028 Thus, he is a victim of a]] RunningGag. When he finally attacked, he abruptly became DangerouslyGenreSavvy, heavily following the EvilOverlordList. In fact, there was supposed to be a series of comics before the attack where he finally sat down and went on an ArchiveBinge. [[http://bobandgeorge.com/archives/comics/0111/011101a.html Here]] [[http://bobandgeorge.com/archives/comics/0111/011102a.html are]] [[http://bobandgeorge.com/archives/comics/0111/011103a.html the]] [[http://bobandgeorge.com/archives/comics/0111/011104a.html comics]] [[http://bobandgeorge.com/archives/comics/0111/011105a.html showing]] [[http://bobandgeorge.com/archives/comics/0111/011106a.html this]] [[http://bobandgeorge.com/archives/comics/0111/011107a.html development]].

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** Mynd was this at first. Although he is a smart and dangerous villain, he is handicapped by not actually [[NoFourthWall reading the comic itself]]. [[http://www.bobandgeorge.com/archives/011024 Here is a prime example]], where he recognizes Proto Man as a truly competent fighter, yet could not resist announcing his plans to the audience. [[http://www.bobandgeorge.com/archives/011028 Thus, he is a victim of a]] RunningGag. When he finally attacked, he abruptly became DangerouslyGenreSavvy, savvy, heavily following the EvilOverlordList. In fact, there was supposed to be a series of comics before the attack where he finally sat down and went on an ArchiveBinge. [[http://bobandgeorge.com/archives/comics/0111/011101a.html Here]] [[http://bobandgeorge.com/archives/comics/0111/011102a.html are]] [[http://bobandgeorge.com/archives/comics/0111/011103a.html the]] [[http://bobandgeorge.com/archives/comics/0111/011104a.html comics]] [[http://bobandgeorge.com/archives/comics/0111/011105a.html showing]] [[http://bobandgeorge.com/archives/comics/0111/011106a.html this]] [[http://bobandgeorge.com/archives/comics/0111/011107a.html development]].
19th Jul '16 2:24:39 AM Morgenthaler
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** Maledict [[SubvertedTrope seems to be a cliché evil overlord Bond villain at first]]... until his real DangerouslyGenreSavvy [[TheChessmaster chessmaster]] nature starts showing; [[spoiler:he didn't want to kill Sonic or Shadow because they [[LukeIAmYourFather are his sons]] and he knows just how powerful they are]]. By contrast, Allysion and most of the Angels are quite genre blind, with the notable exception of the very [[GenreSavvy savvy]] Jesus.

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** Maledict [[SubvertedTrope seems to be a cliché evil overlord Bond villain at first]]... until his real DangerouslyGenreSavvy [[TheChessmaster chessmaster]] nature starts showing; [[spoiler:he didn't want to kill Sonic or Shadow because they [[LukeIAmYourFather are his sons]] and he knows just how powerful they are]]. By contrast, Allysion and most of the Angels are quite genre blind, with the notable exception of the very [[GenreSavvy savvy]] Jesus.
17th Jun '16 11:11:30 AM AnonFangeekGirl
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** Averted in the episode ''Mirror, Mirror'', where Spock ''immediately'' notices that something's wrong with Kirk, [=McCoy=], Scotty, and Uhara (because they're the evil alternate dimension counterparts of the originals), and has them tossed in the brig.

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** Averted in the episode ''Mirror, Mirror'', where Spock ''immediately'' immediately notices that something's wrong with Kirk, [=McCoy=], Scotty, and Uhara Uhura (because they're the evil alternate dimension counterparts of the originals), and has them tossed in the brig.
17th Jun '16 11:09:15 AM AnonFangeekGirl
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** Averted in the episode ''Mirror, Mirror'', where Spock ''immediately'' notices that something's wrong with Kirk, [=McCoy=], Scotty, and Uhara (because they're the evil alternate dimension counterparts of the originals), and has them tossed in the brig.
26th May '16 10:25:57 PM C2
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24th Apr '16 7:00:58 AM Pseudoname
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[[caption-width-right:350: At least he knows just enough to realize how screwed he is.]]
16th Apr '16 9:56:22 AM Dechstreme
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* Explained in ''WesternAnimation/KimPossible'' by the Villain Traditions that most of the bad guys follow. These traditions include the villains "making their lame pun and leaving" the heroes in a DeathTrap. Senor Senior Senior [[ContractualGenreBlindness sticks closely to this]], even telling Kim how to escape. Shego, on the other hand: "I prefer [[WhyDontYaJustShootHim the direct approach]], but you know Drakken..." Drakken does start getting better about it by season 3, where he immediately launches the doomsday weapon sans countdown.

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* Explained in ''WesternAnimation/KimPossible'' by the Villain Traditions that most of the bad guys follow. These traditions include the villains "making their lame pun and leaving" the heroes in a DeathTrap. Senor Señor Senior Senior [[ContractualGenreBlindness sticks closely to this]], even telling Kim how to escape. Shego, on the other hand: "I prefer [[WhyDontYaJustShootHim the direct approach]], but you know Drakken..." Drakken does start getting better about it by season 3, where he immediately launches the doomsday weapon sans countdown.
30th Mar '16 10:52:03 PM jameygamer
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* A few chefs on ''Series/HellsKitchen'' had actually served a dish that was not completely fresh for the competition's opening signature dish showcase, using something that is prepackaged or frozen. While one of the first chefs to do this, Rock, was able to bounce back and win his season, the other offenders got an imaginary DunceCap put on their heads along with a tongue-lashing from chef Gordon Ramsay (who threatened to kick a few of these people out), and none of them even made it to the halfway point of the show.
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