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2nd Oct '17 2:11:33 PM I_love_dragons
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The lesser focus on men's internal world may also be why creators tend to make more villains men. If you want an uncomplicated bad guy, it's a lot easier to make him male rather than female because female villains inspire more questions in the audience's mind about why she's evil and who made her that way, all of this being summed by the phrase "Behind every bitch, there's a bastard who made her that way" .[[ForTheEvulz Unconflicted male villains]], on the other hand, feel more believable.

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The lesser focus on men's internal world may also be why creators tend to make more villains men. If you want an uncomplicated bad guy, it's a lot easier to make him male rather than female because female villains inspire more questions in the audience's mind about why she's evil and who made her that way, all of this being summed by the phrase "Behind every bitch, there's a bastard who made her that way" .way". [[ForTheEvulz Unconflicted male villains]], on the other hand, feel more believable.



For male characters characterization focuses on the what the character has accomplished rather than who he's related to or other passive attributes. This is made necessary due to the greater emphasis on male characters taking action in order to create value. Conversely male characters that are completely defined by their relationships to others or passive attributes or fail to live up to a Badass reputation are not usually well received.

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For male characters characterization focuses on the what the character has accomplished rather than who he's related to or other passive attributes. This is made necessary due to the greater emphasis on male characters taking action in order to create value. Conversely male characters that are completely defined by their relationships to others or passive attributes or fail to live up to a Badass reputation are not usually well received.
2nd Oct '17 2:03:17 PM I_love_dragons
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* OverprotectiveDad: Fathers have usually know no other way to show their care for a daughter than being a judgemental obstacle to their love life.

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* OverprotectiveDad: Fathers have usually know no other way to show their care for a daughter than being a judgemental obstacle to their love life.
2nd Oct '17 1:16:18 PM I_love_dragons
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* DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale: The crime of rape is (justifiably considered horrific), but if inflicted by woman on a man, nobody cares.

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* DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale: The crime of rape is (justifiably justifiably considered horrific), horrific, but if inflicted by a woman on a man, nobody cares.
15th Aug '17 7:29:24 AM CorahsUncle
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The emphasis on male character's actions over their attributes may be a contributing factor to the idea that virginity in men is undesirable. Virginity is valuable as a marker of [[VirginPower innocence and newness]] but real men should be taking their value from their actions, not their ''lack'' of action. That and also the fact that male sexuality is considered simple and unworthy of study (why going to a proctologist is still considered shameful even as people get more accepting of women going to gynecologists). In fact, it is rarely ever addressed in as much detail as female sexuality, implying that men have no complexity or nuance in their sexuality, other than [[AllMenArePerverts being sex maniacs]]. Strangely this also holds true for [[AllGaysArePromiscuous gay men]] despite them being depicted as being more cultured then straight men in other areas. When they're not depicted as completely [[ButNotTooGay asexual]], that is.

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The emphasis on male character's characters' actions over their attributes may be a contributing factor to the idea that virginity in men is undesirable. Virginity is valuable as a marker of [[VirginPower innocence and newness]] but real men should be taking their value from their actions, not their ''lack'' of action. That and also the fact that male sexuality is considered simple and unworthy of study (why going to a proctologist is still considered shameful even as people get more accepting of women going to gynecologists). In fact, it is rarely ever addressed in as much detail as female sexuality, implying that men have no complexity or nuance in their sexuality, other than [[AllMenArePerverts being sex maniacs]]. Strangely this also holds true for [[AllGaysArePromiscuous gay men]] despite them being depicted as being more cultured then straight men in other areas. When they're not depicted as completely [[ButNotTooGay asexual]], that is.
14th Jun '17 4:55:40 PM LadyJaneGrey
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* DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale: The crime of rape is (justifiably considered horrific), but if inflicted by woman on a man, nobody cares.
16th May '17 8:24:25 AM MarqFJA
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* DepravedHomosexual: Gay men are perceived as the "natural predators" of straight men, double points if they are of the ManlyGay type.

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* DepravedHomosexual: Gay men are perceived as the "natural predators" of straight men, double points if they are of the ManlyGay ManlyGay type.
16th May '17 5:44:19 AM MarqFJA
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Although seemingly positive, this may, again, be a reflection of ambivalence towards female power. We feel more comfortable examining all aspects of male power, including the negative ones; these examinations make us far more uncomfortable when it comes to female power--this ambivalence in some cultures manifests as portraying female power as all bad and in ours as all good. Perhaps because a balanced portrayal would make female power more grounded and ''real'' rather then stereotypical and unreal thus dismissible as fantasy.

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Although seemingly positive, this may, again, be a reflection of ambivalence towards female power. We feel more comfortable examining all aspects of male power, including the negative ones; these examinations make us far more uncomfortable when it comes to female power--this ambivalence in some cultures manifests as portraying female power as all bad and in ours as all good. Perhaps because a balanced portrayal would make female power more grounded and ''real'' rather then than stereotypical and unreal thus dismissible as fantasy.



A necessary consequence of focusing on female character's motivational qualities rather then their action is:

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A necessary consequence of focusing on female character's motivational qualities rather then than their action is:
15th Jan '17 11:16:58 PM DustSnitch
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* RapeAndRevenge: Rape is often seen as an acceptable in-universe motivation for a female character to become a {{Badass}}--thus embracing greater agency--and avenge herself. In a way, this supports the idea that agency and action are innately male; only women who are deeply wronged by men become active and only then to punish men for their actions against them--being forced into an active role becomes part of the negative emotional fallout of rape for the woman. This is a somewhat old-fashioned trope.

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* RapeAndRevenge: Rape is often seen as an acceptable in-universe motivation for a female character to become a {{Badass}}--thus badass--thus embracing greater agency--and avenge herself. In a way, this supports the idea that agency and action are innately male; only women who are deeply wronged by men become active and only then to punish men for their actions against them--being forced into an active role becomes part of the negative emotional fallout of rape for the woman. This is a somewhat old-fashioned trope.



* WhatMeasureIsANonBadass: The worst offence a man could make is not to live up to the audience's expectations of {{Badass}}ery.

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* WhatMeasureIsANonBadass: The worst offence a man could make is not to live up to the audience's expectations of {{Badass}}ery.badassery.



* PanickyExpectantFather: Men are useless when it comes to childbirth and break down in hilarious hysterics as soon as labor starts. Even more amusing if the man was established as a {{Badass}} and he faints during the delivery.

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* PanickyExpectantFather: Men are useless when it comes to childbirth and break down in hilarious hysterics as soon as labor starts. Even more amusing if the man was established as a {{Badass}} badass and he faints during the delivery.



* IJustWantToBeBadass: {{Badass}}ery being the quintessence of manhood in fictionland, this goes without saying.

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* IJustWantToBeBadass: {{Badass}}ery Badassery being the quintessence of manhood in fictionland, this goes without saying.
11th Nov '16 1:07:50 PM HighCrate
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More recently, creators have attempted to correct the objectification of women as passive objects fought over by male characters by making them even more competent than male characters. However this is [[RuleAbidingRebel exactly the same dynamic]]. The implication is that a woman's femaleness, not her chosen actions, have made her better than men. Girl Power and GirlsNeedRoleModels are additional examples. Telling girls that they have the power to make the world better because they are girls and not because of their personal choices, once again reduces girls' value down to their passive attributes!

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More recently, creators have attempted to correct the objectification of women as passive objects fought over by male characters by making them even more competent than male characters. However this is [[RuleAbidingRebel exactly the same dynamic]]. The implication is that a woman's femaleness, not her chosen actions, have made her better than men. Girl Power and GirlsNeedRoleModels are additional examples. Telling girls that they have the power to make the world better because they are girls and not because of their personal choices, once again reduces girls' value down to their passive attributes!



* GirlsNeedRoleModels: Many of these "role models" are still 2D characters characterised by been female, badass, whether they are the male protagonists LoveInterest and are still inferior to the other, better characterised, male characters. They may also be used as a DamselInDistress when the plot requires the men to save someone or be MsFanservice.
4th Nov '16 7:01:56 PM Willbyr
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* VirginTension: Virginity is highly desirable in a woman for it heightens the "purity" of women's body. [[AManIsNotAVirgin And it's always a woman]].

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* VirginTension: Virginity is highly desirable in a woman for it heightens the "purity" of women's body. [[AManIsNotAVirgin And it's always a woman]].\n



The emphasis on male character's actions over their attributes may be a contributing factor to the idea that virginity in men is undesirable. Virginity is valuable as a marker of [[VirginPower innocence and newness]] but real men should be taking their value from their actions, not their ''lack'' of action. That and also the fact that male sexuality is considered simple and unworthy of study (why going to a proctologist is still considered shameful even as people get more accepting of women going to gynecologists). In fact, it is rarely ever addressed in as much detail as female sexuality, implying that men have no complexity or nuance in their sexuality, other than [[AllMenArePerverts being sex maniacs]]. Strangely this also holds true for [[AllGaysArePromiscuous gay men]] despite them being depicted as being more cultured then straight men in other areas. When they're not depicted as completely [[ButNotTooGay asexual,]] that is.

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The emphasis on male character's actions over their attributes may be a contributing factor to the idea that virginity in men is undesirable. Virginity is valuable as a marker of [[VirginPower innocence and newness]] but real men should be taking their value from their actions, not their ''lack'' of action. That and also the fact that male sexuality is considered simple and unworthy of study (why going to a proctologist is still considered shameful even as people get more accepting of women going to gynecologists). In fact, it is rarely ever addressed in as much detail as female sexuality, implying that men have no complexity or nuance in their sexuality, other than [[AllMenArePerverts being sex maniacs]]. Strangely this also holds true for [[AllGaysArePromiscuous gay men]] despite them being depicted as being more cultured then straight men in other areas. When they're not depicted as completely [[ButNotTooGay asexual,]] asexual]], that is.



* EunuchsAreEvil: The "logical" extreme of the idea that male virginity is a bad thing.
* ImAManICantHelpIt: Probably the sole element of male sexuality to ever be acknowledged to exist.



* AllMenArePerverts: Virility is more about revelling in perversion than just enjoying sexuality.

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* AllMenArePerverts: Virility is more about revelling reveling in perversion than just enjoying sexuality.



* AManIsNotAVirgin: True men must have sex as soon and as often as possible to be considered men.
** EunuchsAreEvil: The "logical" extreme of AManIsNotAVirgin.
** MustNotDieAVirgin: Disproportionately applied to virgin men.
** NatureAbhorsAVirgin: Almost always a man.
* ImAManICantHelpIt: Probably the sole element of male sexuality to ever be acknowledged to exist.

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* AManIsNotAVirgin: True men must have sex as soon and as often as possible to be considered men.
** EunuchsAreEvil: The "logical" extreme of AManIsNotAVirgin.
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MustNotDieAVirgin: Disproportionately applied to virgin men.
** * NatureAbhorsAVirgin: Almost always a man.
* ImAManICantHelpIt: Probably the sole element UnexpectedVirgin: Seen as a negative occurrence when it comes to men.
* VirginShaming: Expect virgin men to be made fun
of male sexuality to ever be acknowledged to exist.and considered weak.



* AManIsNotAVirgin versus MyGirlIsNotASlut: Perhaps the most illogical of all gender dichotomies since it demands men to be promiscuous and women to be virgins. How men are supposed to have sex if women are required not to is never explained.
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