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* Anything from the list of things that do qualify, if it's not common or severe enough to significantly bother fans of the work every time it comes up.
* Anything from the list of things that do qualify, if it's not common or severe enough to significantly bother fans of the work every time it comes up.
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* [[StopHavingFunGuys Not playing a video game the proper way]]:
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* One that applies to a lot of the DC fanbase but also specifically for the ''[[Franchise/TheFlash Flash]]'' fanbase is saying Superman is faster than any Flash that's not Jay Garrick. Not that people didn't have fun with the stories where that was a plot point, it's just acknowledged that having the Flash be faster than Superman is just better for the Justice League's dynamic, as well as making Superman less overpowered.
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* One that applies to a lot of the DC fanbase but also specifically for the ''[[Franchise/TheFlash Flash]]'' fanbase is saying Superman is faster than any Flash that's not Jay Garrick. Not that people didn't have fun with the stories where that was a plot point, it's just acknowledged that having the Flash be faster than Superman is just better for the Justice League's dynamic, as well as making Superman less overpowered. (As a ContinuityNod, in Flash:Rebirth, Superman is chasing Flash to stop him from making a Heroic Sacrifice and says "We've raced before, Barry. I even won some of those races." Flash gives him a pitying look and says "Those were for ''charity'', Clark," before leaving Supes in the dust.)
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* Mistaking fanon for canon.
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* ''Theatre/{{Wicked}}'' is ''not'' set in the same canon of ''Film/TheWizardOfOz'' or ''Literature/LandOfOz''. It's not meant to be a canonical story in either universe, but many viewers take it as so. ''Wicked'' is mishmash of canons (MGM's green-skinned Wicked Witch and Oz being in a separate universe from Kansas, several book-only characters and references, etc) set in its own continuities. Fans of all three incarnations get bitter when people mistake them for one and the same.
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[[caption-width-right:238:And no, [[IAmNotShazam his name]] ''isn't'' 'Series/DoctorWho'."Series/DoctorWho".]]
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* Referencing a character with an AmbiguousGender as either gender, or bringing up gender with a character that dresses as the opposite gender.
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* Referencing a character with an AmbiguousGender as either gender, or bringing up gender with a character that dresses as the opposite gender.gender or otherwise has an AmbiguousGenderIdentity.
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* Misspelling a name, whether it belongs to a character, place, concept, the work itself, or the author.
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** Admitting to disliking an EnsembleDarkhorse.
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* Fans of ''[[Literature/TessOfTheDurbervilles Tess of the d'Urbervilles]]'' tend to go ballistic over [[RomanticisedAbuse the way the book was treated]] in ''Literature/FiftyShadesOfGrey''. It is '''not''' recommended to ever try to present the way EL James [[CompletelyMissingThePoint understood]] ''Tess'' as correct.
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* Creator/TerryPratchett fans love discussing the many references and homages in his work, especially the ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'' novels. Using a phrase such as "nicked this bit from..." is another matter, and may result in irony being deployed, especially if you're talking about a work that actually postdates ''Discworld'', or a concept that existed in many forms before Sir Terry used it. If it's ''Series/HarryPotter'', just stop now.
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* Creator/TerryPratchett fans love discussing the many references and homages in his work, especially the ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'' novels. Using a phrase such as "nicked this bit from..." is another matter, and may result in irony being deployed, especially if you're talking about a work that actually postdates ''Discworld'', or a concept that existed in many forms before Sir Terry used it. If it's ''Series/HarryPotter'', ''Franchise/HarryPotter'', just stop now.
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* ''Literature/TheCthulhuMythos'':
** Don't insist there's a good versus evil dichotomy between the [[BlueAndOrangeMorality Outer Gods and Elder Gods]]; while there are some authors (most notably, August Derleth) who use this idea, Lovecraft never intended for the Mythos to be reduced to humanly comprehensible morality, and doing so [[CosmicHorror kind of defeats the purpose.]] Actually... maybe just don't mention Derleth at all, his changes to the Mythos aren't very popular...
** Don't insist there's a good versus evil dichotomy between the [[BlueAndOrangeMorality Outer Gods and Elder Gods]]; while there are some authors (most notably, August Derleth) who use this idea, Lovecraft never intended for the Mythos to be reduced to humanly comprehensible morality, and doing so [[CosmicHorror kind of defeats the purpose.]] Actually... maybe just don't mention Derleth at all, his changes to the Mythos aren't very popular...
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* ''Literature/TheCthulhuMythos'':
''Literature/CthulhuMythos'':
** Don't insist there's a good versus evil dichotomy between the [[BlueAndOrangeMorality Outer Gods and Elder Gods]]; while there are some authors (most notably, August Derleth) who use this idea, Lovecraft never intended for the Mythos to be reduced to humanly comprehensible morality, and doing so [[CosmicHorror kind of defeats the purpose.]] Actually... maybe just don't mention Derleth at all, his changes to the Mythos aren't very popular...]] .
** Don't insist there's a good versus evil dichotomy between the [[BlueAndOrangeMorality Outer Gods and Elder Gods]]; while there are some authors (most notably, August Derleth) who use this idea, Lovecraft never intended for the Mythos to be reduced to humanly comprehensible morality, and doing so [[CosmicHorror kind of defeats the purpose.
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* Fans of Creator/DanteAlighieri (and literature lovers in general) tend to get annoyed at people who refer to his most famous work as ''Dante's Inferno''. For the record: the work in question is called ''Literature/TheDivineComedy'', and "Inferno" is the first part of it (followed by "Purgatorio" and "Paradiso"). Referring to ''The Divine Comedy'' as ''The Inferno'' is a bit like referring to ''Franchise/StarWars'' as ''Film/ThePhantomMenace''.
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* [[ViewerGenderConfusion Getting a character's gender wrong]].
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* Not playing a video game the proper way:
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* [[StopHavingFunGuys Not playing a video game the proper way:way]]:
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* Assuming that fans only like a work due to RuleThirtyFour. [[note]]Note that the mere act of drawing R34 isn't enough. See the folder of things that don't qualify below.[[/note]]
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* Drawing or admitting to having looked at RuleThirtyFour artwork. Not even if said artwork depicts illegal or controversial situations, or if the source material is for kids and fans are worried [[HarmfulToMinors said kids might accidentally stumble upon said artwork]].
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* Drawing or admitting to having looked at RuleThirtyFour or otherwise sexualized artwork. Not even if said artwork depicts illegal or controversial situations, or if the source material is for kids and fans are worried [[HarmfulToMinors said kids might accidentally stumble upon said artwork]].artwork]].
* Not playing a video game the proper way:
** Using the TierInducedScrappy.
** Picking a level outside of the AbridgedArenaArray.
** Using certain cheap strategies to win.
* Not playing a video game the proper way:
** Using the TierInducedScrappy.
** Picking a level outside of the AbridgedArenaArray.
** Using certain cheap strategies to win.
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* Drawing or admitting to having looked at RuleThirtyFour artwork. Not even if said artwork depicts illegal or controversial situations, or if the source material is for kids and fans are worried [[HarmfulToMinors said kids might accidentally stumble upon said artwork]].
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* In works with non-human characters, drawing humanized fanart the "incorrect" way, which generally means drawing them as the "wrong" ethnicity or body type.
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* In works with Drawing fanart that makes cerain changes to the characters. Even if the changes are potentially controversial or offensive, such as altering a character's [[RaceLift ethnicity]] or body type. ''Especially'' not if the fanart is a "humanized" version of a non-human characters, drawing humanized fanart the "incorrect" way, which generally means drawing them as the "wrong" ethnicity or body type.character.
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* Claiming that a work is a rip-off of another due to superficial resemblances.
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* Claiming that a work or character is a rip-off of another due to superficial resemblances.resemblances. Bonus points if [[OlderThanTheyThink the work or character supposedly being ripped off actually debuted years after the so-called "original"]].
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Grammar, and expanding the bullet point explaining how so-called Hatedom Berserk Buttons aren't what this is about
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* [[IAmNotShazam Assuming a character's name based off the work's title]].
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* And most of all, admitting to being a fan of the work or simply mentioning it around [[FanHater non-fans]].
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* And most of all, admitting to being a fan of the work or simply mentioning it around [[FanHater non-fans]]. Non-fans' reactions to anything are outside the scope of ''Fandom'' Berserk Button.
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** G2 never had a cartoon. ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyTales'' is G1. The gens are based off the toys, not how many cartoons are released.
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** G2 never had a cartoon. ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyTales'' is G1. The gens are based off on the toys, not how many cartoons are released.
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* Admitting to having enjoyed certain parts of the work that other fans hate (such as the ''Franchise/StarWars'' prequels)
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* Admitting to having enjoyed certain parts of the work that [[FanonDiscontinuity other fans hate hate]] (such as the ''Franchise/StarWars'' prequels)
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** In the world of ''Hunting of the Snark'', if your snark[[note]]no, not ''[[DeadpanSnarker that]]'' kind[[/note]] happens to be a boojum, "you will softly and ''suddenly'' vanish away, and never be met with again." ''Not'' "softly and ''silently''". This did cause arguments [[OlderThanRadio way back then]], with one fan, [[OnlinePersonas Snarkophilius Snobbs]], becoming infamous for persisting with this misquote.
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** In the world of ''Hunting of the Snark'', ''Literature/TheHuntingOfTheSnark'', if your snark[[note]]no, not ''[[DeadpanSnarker that]]'' kind[[/note]] happens to be a boojum, "you will softly and ''suddenly'' vanish away, and never be met with again." ''Not'' "softly and ''silently''". This did cause arguments [[OlderThanRadio way back then]], with one fan, [[OnlinePersonas Snarkophilius Snobbs]], becoming infamous for persisting with this misquote.
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* Mistaking the work's creator for another one due to similar styles.
* Confusing multiple similar characters for each other, or believing that they are all the same person.
* Confusing multiple similar characters for each other, or believing that they are all the same person.
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* Admitting to liking TheScrappy or a BaseBreakingCharacter, or admitting to disliking a BaseBreakingCharacter.
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'''This AudienceReaction has been subject to some misuse. FandomBerserkButton is for '''''objective''''' mistakes that annoy fans. Please read the following lists to make sure your example actually qualifies.'''
[[folder:Common Fandom Berserk Buttons]]
If you've seen fans get angry when someone does one of these things, chances are it should be added here. Note that this list isn't exhaustive, so even if it's not in there, it might still count. Just make sure it's not in the list of things that don't count.
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* [[IAmNotShazam Assuming a character's name based off the work's title]].
* Misspelling a name, whether it belongs to a character, place, concept, the work itself, or the author.
* Mistaking fanon for canon.
* Claiming that a work is a rip-off of another due to superficial resemblances.
* Assuming that a work is [[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids "for kids"]] due to [[AnimationAgeGhetto its appearance]].
* Mistaking the work's genre, and complaining when it doesn't fit their expectations.
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[[folder:Things that do '''not''' qualify as Fandom Berserk Button]]
The following have frequently been added as examples in the past, despite not being '''objective''' misconceptions about the work. If your example fits one of these, it probably doesn't qualify. If you see an example that fits these, feel free to delete it.
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* Admitting to having enjoyed certain parts of the work that other fans hate (such as the ''Franchise/StarWars'' prequels)
* [[SubbingVsDubbing Admitting to having watched or preferring the dubbed version of a foreign work]].
** Using a [[DubNameChange character's translated name]] instead of the original.
* Mentioning certain unpopular {{fanon}} theories[[note]]''Mistaking'' said theories for official canon can be a valid example, though[[/note]].
* Using a {{discredited| meme}} or [[DudeNotFunny offensive]] {{meme|ticMutation}}.
* Not {{shipping}} the FanPreferredCouple.
** Liking an unpopular pairing.
** Liking controversial pairings, such as [[RomanticizedAbuse an abusive one]] or one that changes a canonically non-straight character's sexual orientation.
* Admitting that you dislike the series or its SacredCow.
* In works with non-human characters, drawing humanized fanart the "incorrect" way, which generally means drawing them as the "wrong" ethnicity or body type.
* And most of all, admitting to being a fan of the work or simply mentioning it around [[FanHater non-fans]].
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* Creator/DonBluth worked at Disney for a while in the 70s, which includes working on the short ''WesternAnimation/TheSmallOne''. However, [[AllAnimationIsDisney call a post-departure Don Bluth movie a Disney movie]] when there are Don Bluth fans around. You'll be sure to irk someone.
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* Creator/DonBluth worked at Disney for a while in the 70s, which includes working on the short ''WesternAnimation/TheSmallOne''.''Disney/TheSmallOne''. However, [[AllAnimationIsDisney call a post-departure Don Bluth movie a Disney movie]] when there are Don Bluth fans around. You'll be sure to irk someone.
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No one disputes the facts, some fans just don't like bringing it up. That's not this trope. It must be an objective, factual mistake.
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* Be very careful when discussing Lovecraft's xenophobia with a [[Literature/TheCthulhuMythos fan of the Cthulhu Mythos]]. Most fans are happy to discuss it, but some of them get very touchy when the subject is broached, mostly because they hear it discussed a lot and the subject itself just opens up too many cans of worms when broached improperly.
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* Be very careful when discussing Lovecraft's xenophobia with a [[Literature/TheCthulhuMythos fan of the Cthulhu Mythos]]. Most fans are happy to discuss it, but some of them get very touchy when the subject is broached, mostly because they hear it discussed a lot and the subject itself just opens up too many cans of worms when broached improperly.''Literature/TheCthulhuMythos'':
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* Be very careful when discussing Lovecraft's xenophobia with a [[Literature/TheCthulhuMythos fan of the Cthulhu Mythos]]. Most fans are happy to discuss it, but some of them get very touchy when the subject is broached, mostly because they hear it discussed a lot and the subject itself just opens up too many cans of worms when broached improperly.
** Don't insist there's a good versus evil dichotomy between the [[BlueAndOrangeMorality Outer Gods and Elder Gods]]; while there are some authors (most notably, August Derleth) who use this idea, Lovecraft never intended for the Mythos to be reduced to humanly comprehensible morality, and doing so [[CosmicHorror kind of defeats the purpose.]] Actually... maybe just don't mention Derleth at all, his changes to the Mythos aren't very popular...
** Really hardcore fans will yell at anyone who calls it "The Cthulhu Mythos", preferring the term "Yog-Sothothery" instead, since the former was coined by Derleth and the latter by Lovecraft's circle.
** Don't insist there's a good versus evil dichotomy between the [[BlueAndOrangeMorality Outer Gods and Elder Gods]]; while there are some authors (most notably, August Derleth) who use this idea, Lovecraft never intended for the Mythos to be reduced to humanly comprehensible morality, and doing so [[CosmicHorror kind of defeats the purpose.]] Actually... maybe just don't mention Derleth at all, his changes to the Mythos aren't very popular...
** Really hardcore fans will yell at anyone who calls it "The Cthulhu Mythos", preferring the term "Yog-Sothothery" instead, since the former was coined by Derleth and the latter by Lovecraft's circle.
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See Also: CowboyBebopAtHisComputer (when media gets the facts wrong), FandomHeresy, IAmNotShazam, InternetBackdraft, RefrainFromAssuming (when a song title is different from its lyrics), SeriousBusiness, FlameBait, and BrokenBase.
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See Also: CowboyBebopAtHisComputer (when media gets the facts wrong), DiscreditedMeme, FandomHeresy, IAmNotShazam, InternetBackdraft, RefrainFromAssuming (when a song title is different from its lyrics), SeriousBusiness, FlameBait, and BrokenBase.
