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21st Jul '17 10:53:11 AM Madrugada
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To certain fans, this can get annoying. Enough that people that continue to perpetuate it are treated with the same respect as a {{Troll}}, although [[HanlonsRazor many times they merely made an honest mistake]]. As the following examples demonstrate, however, many other times the purists are not railing against mistakes, but against things which are not technically wrong, such as dub names, simply because they happened to dislike the alternate adaptation.

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To certain fans, this can get annoying. Enough that people that continue to perpetuate Sometimes, it are treated with goes further than just "dislike", though. Sometimes it crosses into BerserkButton territory; and the same respect as a {{Troll}}, although [[HanlonsRazor many times they merely made an honest mistake]]. As reaction is disproportionate rage at the following examples demonstrate, however, many other times the purists are not railing against mistakes, but against things which are not technically wrong, such as dub names, simply because they happened to dislike the alternate adaptation.
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** Suggesting that Supergirl is nothing but a "Superman with skirt/boobs" with no distinguishing traits who added nothing to the Superman mythos, she had no good stories prior to ''Comicbook/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths'' or Creator/PeterDavid was the first who wrote the character right will get everyone who actually know Supergirl's character and history laughing their asses off or groaning in exasperation.



* Apple:
** Calling a [[UsefulNotes/AppleMacintosh Mac]] a "MAC" will earn you the ire of Apple fans and network engineers.[[note]] The Mac, short for Macintosh (or used to be at least), is a brand of computer. A [=McIntosh=] is a variety of apple, not a variety of Apple (though it is a variety of expensive audio gear). The pun is intentional, but the distinction is important. A MAC (media access control) is part of a network interface, or a store that sells makeup.[[/note]] Same with calling the iPod "IPOD," "I-POD," or "Ipod."
** Apple never made a product called the "iTouch". What you're looking for is "iPod Touch". Call it the former and any Apple fan will be ready to correct you.
** In an episode of ''Series/{{House}}'', "Coma Guy" (a man who had been in, well, a coma for a long time) once picked up Wilson's and said "What's this? It says Ip-Odd."
** [[IAmNotShazam Don't call the company "Mac"]] or say "Mac" when you meant to say "Apple" (e.g. calling an Apple Store "The Mac Store"). The Mac is a product of a company called Apple.
* Among programmers, making a Perl/PERL/PEARL/Pearl/perl mistake[[note]]Perl is generally preferred for the language itself while perl is sometimes used for the interpreter (UsefulNotes/{{UNIX}} and similar operating systems render program filenames as all lowercase); PEARL regardless of capitalization is just wrong, though that's what the original author wanted to call it until he found out there was already a language by that name[[/note]] can lead to someone losing all credibility. In general, the capitalization thing for computer language names can get sticky. Especially for older languages, which had a tendency to start life as all caps abbreviations and then become mixed case in later standardization efforts. LISP ("[=LISt=] Processing") and FORTRAN ("[=FORmula=] [=TRANslating=] System") are now just Lisp and Fortran.
** Claiming to be proficient in the 'C/C++ language' is a good way to persuade other developers that you have no more than a passing familiarity with at least one of the two. While the languages are legitimately similar, they exhibit very different styles, tend not to get used in the same areas, and have one heck of a FandomRivalry.



* Any real-life incident where a tech support person gets a call that starts out with "We bought the Internet from you", "Is this the Internet?", "I think I need to reboot the Internet", "I deleted the Internet", etc. will lead to ''vicious'' mocking. Ditto referring to "the hard drive" or "the CPU" when you meant the whole computer (as in "Should I take my [hard drive/CPU] for repairs?"). Similarly if asked which browser they're using someone replies with the name of their ISP or preferred search engine.
** If the customer, when asked who their ISP is, responds with "Internet Explorer" you know it's going to be a very long day.
** For a ''very'' long while, customers repeatedly referred to the computer "tower" (that is, the computer itself) as the "modem".
** And may the gods of technology help you if you make the assumption that ComputerEqualsMonitor.
* If you wish to communicate with people in the Free Software Foundation, or Debian users, make sure to call the use of the Linux kernel with the GNU userland tools: [[SpellMyNameWithAnS GNU/Linux]]. Most people don't care, but there are a few that are very serious about it.
** Be very careful about who you talk to. Most other distros' users will get a bit irritated with you if you call the overall operating system GNU/Linux. Some Debian users do too. For further clarification this goes back to a very old argument between Linus Torvalds and Richard Stallman over who should get credit for free operating systems.
** For some people this is [[SeriousBusiness enough of an annoyance]] that there have been serious proposals to actually excise the GNU userland tools from some mainstream distros, notably Gentoo. In practice doing this would be a lot of work just to introduce a bunch of compatibility problems, but [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking at least people would shut up about it]].
* Call Microcomputers such as the UsefulNotes/{{Commodore 64}}, UsefulNotes/ZXSpectrum, and the UsefulNotes/{{Amiga}} "[=PCs=]" in front of Microcomputer fans.
* It's the UsefulNotes/{{Xbox}}. It's just one word, normally capitalized. Not [=XBox=], XBOX, X-box, X-Box, or xBox. The name comes from [=DirectX=]; when Microsoft was creating it, it was codenamed the [=DirectX=] Box, or [=DirectXbox=], and when they were trying to come up with a cool name for it, someone realized, "Why don't we just use it as it is?"
* Website/{{Google}}'s smartphone OS is called Android, not Droid. While there is such a thing as a Droid, it's a ''hardware'' branding for Android-based devices from Verizon Wireless and thus is inaccurate when used to refer to a different kind of phone, such as a Samsung Galaxy.
** If you have friends who are Android enthusiasts, do not mention that your phone isn't rooted[[note]]that is, the Android OS has been modified to allow the user superuser privileges a la Linux[[/note]] or you'll be dismissed as being tech-illiterate. You might get away with it if you're a Google employee, but in all other cases, prepare the heatproof shields.
* The basis of the GUI on UsefulNotes/{{Unix}} and similar operating systems (with the exception of UsefulNotes/MacOS X, which ''can'' use it but primarily uses Quartz) is the X Window System, X, or X11 (after what has been the current major version for some time[[note]]and we mean '''some time'''; X11 debuted in September 1987[[/note]]; the Mac implementation is known as X11.app, for example), not X Windows.
* The argument between binary-based definitions of "kilobyte", "megabyte" and "gigabyte" (etc.) and those arguing for decimal-based versions. Computers use binary (base-2), so powers of 2 (e.g., 1024 = 2[[superscript:10]]) are a more natural fit than powers of 10 (e.g., 1000 = 10[[superscript:3]]). As a result, the definition of a 1024 (not 1000) byte "kilo"-byte and a 1024*1024 (not 1000*1000) byte "mega"-byte became commonly accepted (if not entirely universal). However, some argue that such use of the prefixes is nonstandard, and in 1996 the SI standardised on 1000-based definitions, using the alternate "kibibyte", "mebibyte", "gibibyte", etc. for the 1024-based versions. Others have argued that this went against existing convention, and the argument goes on....
* Find a new thread with no replies on a forum, ''any forum'', and reply "First." Regardless of that thread's original topic, it will decay into a thread dedicated to insulting you and reminding you it isn't ''Website/FourChan''.
** This will even get you flamed to oblivion on 4chan, who equate it to a "bump"[[note]]When a thread gets no replies it slips down the queue of threads until it hits the bottom and is deleted. "Bumping" is when someone replies with absolutely no content (Often by literally typing "bump") to push it back to the top.[[/note]]
* Similar to the above example, slapping "Le" in front of a [[MemeticMutation meme]] on any website that isn't Website/{{Reddit}} and you will drive the other users into a frenzy of insults, rage, and mockery.
** Now on Reddit, the users will descend into the same when you use "Le".
* Referring to the Nook, the e-reader device Barnes & Noble manufacture, as a "Kindle", the rival device made by Amazon, is a perennial one for its employees. Same applies to calling an Android tablet an "[=iPad=]".
* As noted by the Free Software Foundation (the main organization of the free software movement and the maintainer of the UsefulNotes/{{UNIX}}-like GNU operating system), as well as [[http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2327233,00.asp PC Magazine]], the term "PC" does not necessarily mean a computer is running Windows. For one thing, computers that come with Windows are just as capable of running a UNIX-like OS (raising the question of whether dual-boot computers are considered to be "half-PC" by people who use the term "PC" in the aforementioned way), and Macs ended up using roughly the same architecture after abandoning the [=PowerPC=] architecture in favor of x86 (which resulted in systems capable of natively running other x86-based operating systems, including Windows).
* The desktop themes that come with Windows 98 are not the same as the ones that come with Windows 98 Plus!. To clarify, the Windows 98 themes originally came with Windows ''95'' Plus!, with the exception of the ones that came with Microsoft Plus! for Kids. Windows 98 Plus! has its own set of themes, which are completely different from the ones that come with the stand-alone OS (and by extension, Plus! 95). Regarding the themes themselves, Jungle theme's sound scheme is not the same as the stand-alone sound scheme of the same name.
* Internet Rule #219: Don't call something a "meme" when it's an image macro. Memes are ideas that replicate themselves through people, image macros are pictures with a top text and a bottom text. If you confuse them on sites like Reddit or 4chan, you will get ridiculed for trying to join a culture without researching anything about it. If you confuse them on an online newspaper, where research is really important, chances are you're gonna become a meme yourself.
* Mentioning Windows 10, let around saying it's ''good'', around longtime Windows users is pretty much asking for trouble. Also, pointing out that people passed up a free upgrade is bound to draw a lot of anger, even if you do acknowledge Microsoft's [[UnwantedAssistance nagging users to upgrade]].
** The same applies to every generation of Windows for at least a small portion of the community.



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* ''Never'' mention Milanoo ''(sic)''. Even if you ordered something from them and liked it, fellow cosplayers don't care.
* Around many cosplay communities, cosplaying the trolls from ''Webcomic/{{Homestuck}}'' is a very sore point, due to ''Homestuck'' being infamous for its very...vocal fandom, to say the least, and people who paint their skin but don't bother to seal it, causing whatever they touch to be smeared with grey. Needless to say, those cosplayers, often the VocalMinority, have ruined ''Homestuck'' cosplay for people who do want to cosplay trolls but are more professional about it.
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* The goth, punk, and emo subcultures tend to be ''very'' particular about what is and isn't goth, punk, or emo. All of them look disdainfully on middle-school goth kids whom they refer to as "vampires". Bonus points for referring to modern "emo" music and fashion among emo fans from TheEighties.
* Any hint of AnachronismStew, save for gadgets, on a completely accurate [[DecadeThemedParty decade-themed costume party]] can make everyone bat an eye on you for [[OutdatedOutfit wearing fashion statements that were completely outdated or nonexistent from its respective decade]] or depending too much on PopularHistory from searching vague results online or from renting costumes. Examples of these are: Wearing bustles on an [[TheGayNineties 1890s]] party can be compared to as donning [[EightiesHair gigantic hair]] and [[ShouldersOfDoom gigantic shoulder pads]] in [[TheNineties 1995]], or wearing fringed "flapper" minidresses with platform stilettos on a [[Literature/TheGreatGatsby Great Gatsby]]-themed party can give the onlookers the "you're a slut" look; or wearing peacock fashions or [[DangerouslyShortSkirt miniskirts]] or [[NewAgeRetroHippie hippie smocks]] in a ''Series/MadMen''-themed party can give you that "This is Mad Men not ''Mod Men''" look.
* A common pet peeve for anyone in the fashion industry: Mentioning the fact UsefulNotes/CocoChanel created and/or popularized the LittleBlackDress in 1926 while displaying the one Creator/AudreyHepburn wore in the 1961 film ''Film/BreakfastAtTiffanys''.
* [[http://woodworking.formeremortals.net/wwmm-apparel/ The "Battlestar Galactica"]] T-shirt manages to include all of the above with, well, its name listing.
* Do not wear socks with sandals.
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* Hold your chopsticks crossed; it's a quick way to stand out as a tourist in countries that primarily use chopsticks for utensils. Don't ask for Western utensils either, for the same reasons, unless a particular dish does call for their use (such as curry rice in Japan, which is always served with a spoon).
21st Jul '17 10:15:53 AM DoctorCooper
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* {{Lolicon}}. Bring it up around members of the LolitaFashion subculture, and hope to escape alive and unscathed.
* Saying or implying that a roller coaster is dangerous will earn you a rebuke from any coaster enthusiast who happens to hear you. Yes, your car really is 10,000 times more dangerous than the coaster.
** The majority of the posts in [[http://www.themeparkreview.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=605 this thread]] on a popular theme park site has its users cringe every time a user posts someone calling a coaster dangerous online.
* Referring to science fiction not as "SF" but as SciFi will brand you as a complete mundane. Someone who would be lost at a con, probably looks down his nose at zines, and wouldn't know real fanac if he fell over it. (Or at the very least, pronounce it "skiffy").
** Though admittedly the above is mostly restricted to the [[{{pun}} purist]] of the pure.
** At the 1977 Worldcon, Gary Kurtz said "We hope that [Franchise/StarWars] will lead to many more sci-fi films...." Two thousand fans went "BOOOOOOO!", as Creator/RobertSilverberg gently explained "You aren't supposed to say that."
** Much worse would be considering franchises like ''Franchise/StarTrek'' or ''Franchise/StarWars'' as "hard" Sci-Fi, when in reality they're the softest of the soft, and Sci-Fi/SF fans ''will'' let you have it with both barrels for it. Let alone actually [[GeekReferencePool EQUATING SF fandom with "Star Trek" fandom or "Star Wars" fandom]]. It happens.
* If you are visiting Victoria, the capital of the province of British Columbia, you are on Vancouver Island, not "Victoria Island". The city of UsefulNotes/{{Vancouver}} is ''not'' located on this island (they are just named for the same guy). Mildly confusing to an outsider, but not actually any harder than, say, Kansas City being in Missouri. Yet this frequent tourist error has become the bane of many a BC tourism worker.
** While you're on the island, swing by Mount Washington and ask if it was named after a certain U.S. president. It's an honest mistake, but in reality it was named after Rear Admiral John Washington and you'd ''better believe you'll be corrected''.
** Some folks in B.C. are also rather sensitive about the renaming of the Queen Charlotte Islands to "Haida Gwaii" in 2010. Just mention an opinion on it (for or against the name change; it really doesn't matter), and brace for an argument.
* When speaking or writing English using pretentious plurals can bring you a lot of grief. Viruses being pluralized to viri (or worse, "virii"), for instance, is incorrect as "virus" is of neuter, not masculine, gender and moreover, viruses is commonly acknowledged as the correct plural. Because most words in English, whether borrowed or not, have a simple plural case of -s, even you are using the technically correct plural (by the grammar of the root language[[note]]the Latin word ''virus'', however, is a "mass noun"; it doesn't have a plural form, and trying to make one with the usual rules is a bit like claiming "furnitures" is the plural of "furniture" in English[[/note]]); like Forum/Fora, Octopus/Octopodes, Cherub/Cherubim you risk sounding deliberately obtuse or desperate to show you have a education. Either way you can expect someone to be annoyed.
* Another one when writing English -- use apostrophes correctly. They are to be used to indicate contractions or the possessive form of nouns -- ''not'' the plural form of a noun. You like pizzas and [=CDs=], not pizza's and CD's.
** In a similar vein, learn the difference between to/two/too, they're/there/their, and -- most especially -- your/you're. Using the wrong one will irritate English grammar fans, many of whom can be quite vocal about it.
** Take note, however, that only possessive ''nouns'' have apostrophes; possessive ''pronouns'' never do. Do not confuse "it's" (contraction of "it is") with "its" (the possessive form of "it") around GrammarNazi types (for that matter, be careful calling people Grammar Nazis - some resent the comparison to Nazi Germany, some resent the notion that good grammar is unimportant and they're just being pedantic, and some [[TakeAThirdOption are apparently just looking for something else to chew you out about]]). And ''certainly'' don't use "your's", "her's", "our's", or "their's", because these are ''never'' right.
*** To a lesser degree, this is the source of the your/you're and their/they're (but not "there") confusion, as these are also cases where the possessive pronoun and the contraction of the pronoun with its proper conjugation of "to be" ("are" for both you and they; "is" for it) sound the same. The other pronouns have no such problem ("I'm" versus "my/mine", "he's" versus "his", "we're" vs. "our/ours").
* Practitioners of Middle Eastern dance forms vary in their reaction to the appellation "belly dance". Some will jump down your throat over the "misnomer". (Just quoting, Rocky!) Others have given up trying, or value the recognition factor more. See the [[http://www.gildedserpent.com/articles6/ezburnsrants.htm Dead Horse Derby.]]
** What will really bring down wrath from all, without exception, is implying that their art form is to be identified with, similar to, derived from or in any way connected with stripping. Just don't, on pain of pain. "Exotic dance" is best avoided for that reason.
* Followers of Leon Trotsky react badly to being called "Trotskyites". Even the most vitriolic Stalinist propaganda didn't call them that. It's "[=TrotskyISTS=]".
* Mention that sharing art (e.g. from Website/{{Pixiv}}) without permission is okay, and you'll get a huge mouthful from the artist community for disrespecting copyright. Mention that it's not okay, and you'll incur the wrath of those who feel that artists are way too sensitive about how their art is promoted. In other words [[BrokenBase there's no safe opinion on this matter]].
* Aficionados of the pre-1980 Volkswagen Type 2 do not take kindly to it being called a "van." It's the Bus, thankyouverymuch.
* Try calling the Willis Tower by that name around Chicagoans; it is still the Sears Tower, thank you. The big department store on State Street is still Marshall Field's, not Macy's. And it's ''O'Hare'' International Airport, not O'Hara.
* Something really fun to do, if you're wearing a helmet and a sports cup, is to tell someone who just got a piercing or tattoo or some such body modification, "Oh, but you looked so pretty/handsome."
* It's Or-uh-gun, nor Ory-gone. It's the Will-AM-ette River, not the WILL-am-ette River. Not every Oregonian is from Portland, and Portland is not, not, not Seattle. Also, be careful when mentioning ''{{Series/Portlandia}}''-- some Portlanders may love it, some may hate it, and some may feel it falls under NWordPrivileges.
** Similarly, the ''de facto'' official pronunciation of Nevada (as practiced by the state legislature and most locals) is "Neh-VA-duh," with the A in the second syllable pronounced like that in "bad," and locals will [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nevada#Etymology_and_pronunciation get quite irate]] if it's pronounced "Nuh-VAH-duh," as is common among outsiders. Etymologically, both are wrong: the name comes from the Spanish "nevada" meaning "snow-covered" (after the Sierra Nevada mountains), which is pronounced "neh-VAH-dah."
** And for people in Kentucky, Louisville can be pronounced as "Loo-a-vull" "Lool-vull" or "Loo-ee-vill" (although the latter will give away that you're not from the area), but if you pronounce the "S", you will receive [[DeathGlare death glares.]]
*** Similarly, Illinois is pronounced "IL-i-NOY" not "IL-i-NOISE"
*** On the flip side, The "S" in St. Louis '''is''' pronounced. Calling it "St. Louie" will immediately brand you as an outsider.
** There are ten cities called Prescott in the United States, two in Canada, and one in the UK (two if you count the one spelled with only one T). Of them, all are pronounced "press-caught"... except for Prescott, Arizona, which is pronounced "press-kit" after the Civil War-era author from which the city takes its name. Pronounce it wrong and mark yourself immediately as an out-of-towner.
** Mobile, Alabama pronounced moe-beel, not moe-bile. It hasn't moved in a long time.
* Mentioning that San Francisco is in "northern California" will earn the ire of anyone who lives in the northernmost third of California. However, people elsewhere define "[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_California central California]]" differently (for them San Francisco is north of it) and also see it as a sub-section of "[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_California northern California]]". Also, as far as the American federal court system is concerned, ''Los Angeles'' is in the ''[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_District_Court_for_the_Central_District_of_California Central]]'' District of California and San Francisco in the Northern (San Diego has the Southern District and Sacramento the Eastern).
** Try saying "hella" (a Northern California VerbalTic) in Southern California and see what happens.
** In Northern California, don't precede highway numbers with [[SpellMyNameWithAThe "The"]] (a Southern California practice). Don't do it in any of the other 49 states, either, unless you want to immediately mark yourself as someone [[SoCalization whose only concept of America comes from Hollywood]].
* Don't confuse magazines for clips in front of a firearm enthusiast. That rectangular box that's filled with cartridges that slides into the bottom of a pistol? That's called a magazine, not a clip. Any spring loaded apparatus that feeds ammunition into the gun's chamber is a magazine. Clips do not have springs and do not feed the rounds directly into the gun. Most clips are used to load rounds into magazines, some clips are fed into a gun's chamber and are ejected one all the rounds are fired. Most gun enthusiasts have heard the whole magazine/clip thing at least once and will be ready to give you a long lecture on the differences between the two if you dare get them wrong.
* Bashing a show simply because it aired on a network or block after most consider it to have JumpedTheShark or undergone NetworkDecay, [[ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontWatch without judging it by its own merits]], is a good way to ignite entire countries on fire from the show's {{Fandom}}.
* You know that puzzle where you put numbers in squares? It's pronounced "Sudoku", not "Suduko".[[note]]As a bonus, the Japanese language has no native ''du'' sound.[[/note]]
* Lawyers (as one might expect) have a few of these, and (also as you might expect) a lot of these are even language-based:
** For American administrative lawyers, the primary statute about the work of federal administrative agencies is the "Administrative Procedure Act." Note that it is ''not'' the "Administrative Procedure''s'' Act."
** For American securities lawyers, the statute passed in 1934 regulating the buying and selling of securities on the open market is the "Securities Exchange Act." It is not the "Securities ''and'' Exchange Act", even though the administrative agency tasked with enforcing the statute is the "Securities ''and'' Exchange Commission." (It can also be called the "Exchange Act" or the "(19)34 Act".)
* People in Arkansas hate when people pronounce their state's name as Ar-Kansas. They got so fed up with it that they actually made it illegal. On the other hand, the river of the same name ''is'' pronounced Ar-Kansas.
* Pronouncing the S at the end of Illinois tends to annoy the people who live there, especially if it's done by someone from a state that borders Illinois.
* Not using the Oxford comma will cause many English speakers to ask if you're going to [[SelfDemonstrating invite the strippers, JFK and Stalin]][[note]]Putting a comma after "JFK" makes it clear that JFK and Stalin are ''not'' strippers.[[/note]] to your next birthday party.
* If you are in Kiribati, make sure you pronounce the name as "Kiri-bass". Pronouncing it as "Kiri-bat-ti" will make its people drown you into the country's surrounding waters.
* "Animal welfare" and "animal rights" are two very different concepts. Calling an animal welfare activist an animal rights activist, and ''especially'' mentioning PETA (which most welfare activists loathe), is a lose-lose situation.
* Pet owners being passionate as they are, there are plenty of ways to get on their bad side and get hair flying. In general, feeding your pets a vegan diet or overfeeding them, even unintentionally, is a quick way to get yourself branded as an animal abuser in some circles. And you ''better'' spay and neuter your pets if you aren't a breeder.
** Amongst dog owners: Never say pit bulls are violent, aggressive, owned by criminals, or any other of the breed's stereotypes. Adopting a purebred from anywhere but an animal shelter will get you much scorn for supporting puppy mills (even if the purebred was from a respectable breeder) and not giving shelter dogs a home. Docking ears and tails is cruelty to some. Depending on where you go, saying you like pugs is a great way to get a rant about inbreeding and unhealthiness.
** Amongst cat owners: '''Never''' support declawing.
** Amongst rabbit owners (or any small pet, for that matter): Do ''not'', under ''any'' circumstances, flip your rabbit on its back and then say that it "looks so cute when sleeping like that." Rabbits are prey animals, and when faced with danger will roll over and play dead. Being in this state is very stressful and unhealthy, not to mention that you're scaring the poor thing. One [=YouTuber=] found this out the hard way.
** For reptile owners, saying that an animal is dangerous and shouldn't be kept in captivity. You'll quickly be told that the people who care for these animals are almost always hobbyists with many years of experience, and that people only get hurt when they handle the animals improperly and irresponsibly. Owners of venomous species and large snakes like anacondas and reticulated pythons hear this the most.
*** Live-feeding is also quick to incite criticism, mainly because it creates unnecessary suffering for the prey animal and risks injury for the reptile if it isn't hungry.
* Please do not mix up Switzerland and Sweden. The former is famous for cheese, chocolate and watches; the latter, for Vikings, meatballs and IKEA. Similarly, do not mix up the Dutch with the Danes: The former are from the Netherlands, the latter are from Denmark. (It is true, however, that they are famous for similar things: Both produce lots of dairy, both have a lot of stoners, and both really like bicycles).
* Confusing Iceland with Ireland will have Icelandic people or fans of Iceland throw you into the island nation's volcanoes.
* In Brazil, '''DO NOT''' state that Dilma Rosseff is a good president.
** Do not also lie about an event that is ongoing. Lying is considered a taboo in their culture. Four American Olympic athletes learn the lesson the hard way.
** Also, don't mention the fact the the Wright Brothers invented the airplane. They were just trying to steal Alberto Santos-Dumont's thunder.
* Some people insist that referring to only citizens of the United States as "Americans" is wrong because people living in other nations in North and South America could be referred to as "Americans" as well. Just don't try to make that argument ''to'' people from said aforementioned countries, such as Canada.
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* Not knowing which characters are Marvel and which characters are DC is a huge one. Go ahead and ask why Batman isn't in the Avengers. See what happens.
* Mistaking other media as canon with the comics is a big one. Worse still, ''thinking they're in the same continuity''.



* ''Franchise/SpiderMan'''s title gets this a lot. As ''Series/{{Friends}}'' helpfully explains:
--->'''Phoebe:''' "Why isn't it 'Spiderman'? You know, like Goldman, Silverman?"\\
'''Chandler:''' "Because it's not his last name."\\
'''Phoebe:''' "It isn't?"\\
'''Chandler:''' "No, it's not like he's Phil Spiderman. He's a SPIDER MAN. You know, like 'Goldman' is a last name, but there's no '[[ChromeChampion Gold-man]]'."
** It should be noted that in this scene it is a matter of pronunciation (Phoebe wonders why it isn't pronounced "Spiderm'n" in the way "Silverman" is pronounced "Silverm'n"), not of spelling the name with or without a hyphen (it also would have applied, for example, to the names "Superman" and "Batman"). However, most Spider-Man fans, taking the cue from Creator/StanLee, will complain if you spell the name of the hero as one hyphen-less word. In fact, Stan Lee added the hyphen to set Spidey apart from Superman et al. This isn't helped by the fact that "Spiderman" is the actual name of the official newspaper comic.
** Professing fondness for ''ComicBook/OneMoreDay'' will get you lynched.
** Professing fondness for ''ComicBook/SuperiorSpiderMan'' may also get you lynched, and will most definitely start a massive argument between those who loved it and its vigorous Hatedom - a sizeable section of which was less angry at the story itself, more at its execution.



* In any incarnation of the ComicBook/XMen, misspelling "Rogue" as "[[RougeAnglesOfSatin Rouge]]".
** More recently, the Inhumans in general have become this for X-Fans.



* Saying "Franchise/{{Batman}} could beat [x]", especially "Batman can beat Superman" or "Batman can beat Wonder Woman". Batman's ability to beat superheroes [[DependingOnTheWriter varies heavily]] but many Batman fans like to claim he could beat anyone if he prepares enough. This causes trouble on both sides of the argument.



* Don't use your natural hair instead of a wig.



* Having an American character [[UsefulNotes/BritishEnglish refer to their mother as "Mum"]] will anger a lot of people, as will a British character saying "Mom".
* Spelling a major character's name wrong is probably the worst sin a fanfiction can make according to some people and can ruin a well-written story.



* Don't base customs of any institution set in another country or world on how things are in your own country. For example, summer vacation in Japan is much shorter than in America and does not coincide with the interlude between school years. The latter takes place exclusively within March, and graduation ceremonies are held in April.
** This holds also true for holidays and traditions associated with it. July 4th isn't a holiday in the UK, Germany's Thanksgiving is on a different date and celebrated differently, and so on.



* Do '''''not''''' suggest that Lolita fashion has any sexual connotations.
** Don't confuse Lolita for Fairy Kei or similar styles.



* (T-shirt with a picture of a Dalek) Caption:"OMG! [=R2D2=]! I loved him in Star Trek!" Manages to pull off a triple-threat!!



* Mistaking a CGI Creator/{{Disney}} film like ''Disney/WreckItRalph'' or ''Disney/{{Bolt}}'' for a Disney-Creator/{{Pixar}} film is not wise around animation fans.
** Also, do '''not''' refer to Pixar films as "Disney films". Ever. Pixar fans insist that Pixar movies are a separate group, and some hand-drawn-Disney fans absolutely ''hate'' Pixar.
** In particular, ''WesternAnimation/{{Planes}}'' is a {{spinoff}} created by Disney Toon Studios (mostly known for their direct-to-video sequels, prequels, and midquels) and is ''not'' a Pixar movie - but it doesn't stop many people from mistakenly blaming Pixar for it.

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* Mistaking a CGI Creator/{{Disney}} film like ''Disney/WreckItRalph'' or ''Disney/{{Bolt}}'' for a Disney-Creator/{{Pixar}} film is not wise around animation fans.
** Also, do '''not''' refer to Pixar films as "Disney films". Ever. Pixar fans insist that Pixar movies are a separate group, and some hand-drawn-Disney fans absolutely ''hate'' Pixar.
**
fans. In particular, ''WesternAnimation/{{Planes}}'' is a {{spinoff}} created by Disney Toon Studios (mostly known for their direct-to-video sequels, prequels, and midquels) and is ''not'' a Pixar movie - but it doesn't stop many people from mistakenly blaming Pixar for it.



* Unless you are specifically aiming to torpedo your credibility, don't dismiss the Theory of Evolution as "[[GravityIsOnlyATheory just a theory]]", oversimplify it as "survival of the fittest", or ask "If humans evolved from apes, why are there still apes?" as if you have single-handedly posed The Question That Will Once And For All Destroy Darwinism.[[note]] You haven't, and you won't. Opinions of a plurality of the American people (and other societies in which certain religions have a deep foothold, such as Russian) aside, there is ''zero'' doubt among the scientific community that evolution is a thing that exists.[[/note]]
** Additionally, don't confuse the Theory of Evolution with the Big Bang, or any theories about the origins of life, neither of which it has anything to do with directly. Also, evolution in ''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}'' has nothing to do with real evolution except the name (it's really more like metamorphosis/an organism's life cycle). Certain extremists have been railing on this one for a long time.
** Also, don't say "humans evolved directly from monkeys" unless you want to hear a rant about how humans actually evolved from ape-like hominids.
** Furthermore, do not put Theory of Evolution and Christianity into the same sentence, otherwise it'll at best start an endless debate, or at worse, a flat out FlameWar.
* When you enter any online science discussion, take note of the most widely quoted sources and experts and refrain from questioning them unless you want your opinion to be dismissed out of hand, even if you have legitimate grouses.



* Most physicists ''despise'' the term "God Particle" often used by the media to refer to the Higgs Boson, not the least because it gets certain religious types upset for no good reason.[[note]]It was originally nicknamed the God''damn'' Particle, but it got [[{{Bowdlerise}} truncated]] when publicized.[[/note]]
* Do ''not' speak seriously of the Nibiru conspiracy theory when there are astronomers around, or even astronomy enthusiasts.
* Also, don't claim that the Sun will explode, go supernova -- or worse, nova -- around astronomers. It's a ''red giant'', and it's not an explosion, it's a ''slow burn''. The Sun is not anywhere close to massive enough to go supernova, while a nova is a different thing altogether that only occurs to stars that have ''already'' collapsed into white dwarfs.
* Don't call astronomers "astrologers". And please don't ask them if they can tell your fortune.
* Never ask an archaeologist if they dig up dinosaur bones. That's what a paleontologist does.
* Be careful when talking about languages and language policies around sociolinguists. Considering there have been entire separationist groups based on language issues, it's not too surprising many sociolinguists are really sensitive (and may take major offense if you're not careful) to this kind of thing.
* If you're going to argue with a scientist about a subject that has some controversy attached (global warming, evolution, vaccinations...) then you'd better do your homework. Trying to compare the work done by real scientists with the writings of a random person on a conspiracy website will not go over well. Scientists will and have refused to debate people who have no qualifications to challenge scientific theories but claim to have knowledge in the field that matches or exceeds that of someone who has dedicated their life to studying it.
* Generally speaking, people in the "softer" sciences don't like it if you [[HardOnSoftScience imply that their field isn't true science]].
* [[AncientAstronauts Ancient Aliens]].



* Never use a VirusMisnomer around microbiologists. They'll be quick to point out which diseases are viral, bacterial, or parasitic in nature. Especially because confusing a bacterium for a virus physiologically would be like confusing a bear with a flea, except an order of magnitude worse.



* Never, ever, say UsefulNotes/ThomasEdison was the inventor of the incandescent light bulb - he didn't invent it, but only revised an existing design (the revision made it a useful, mass-marketable household product rather than a one-off curiosity, but he was far from the first person to make an electric light). Also, unless you are criticising his business ethics, good luck mentioning Edison in front of [[UsefulNotes/NikolaTesla Tesla]] fans without having a Tesla Coil shoved in your face.
* Linguists study how languages work, and though they may understand how a certain part of a language works (such as Hebrew verbs or Tibetan numerals) work, they will often not be fluent in that language. Please don't ask a linguist how many languages they speak.
16th Jul '17 3:44:03 PM LucaEarlgrey
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* Mentioning Windows 10, let around saying it's ''good'', around longtime Windows users is pretty much asking for trouble.

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* Mentioning Windows 10, let around saying it's ''good'', around longtime Windows users is pretty much asking for trouble. Also, pointing out that people passed up a free upgrade is bound to draw a lot of anger, even if you do acknowledge Microsoft's [[UnwantedAssistance nagging users to upgrade]].
16th Jul '17 3:42:43 PM LucaEarlgrey
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* Around many cosplay communities, cosplaying the trolls from ''Webcomic/{{Homestuck}}'' is a very sore point, due to ''Homestuck'' being infamous for its very...vocal fandom, to say the least, and people who paint their skin but don't bother to seal it, causing whatever they touch to be smeared with grey. Needless to say, those cosplayers, often the VocalMajority, have ruined ''Homestuck'' cosplay for people who do want to cosplay trolls but are more professional about it.

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* Around many cosplay communities, cosplaying the trolls from ''Webcomic/{{Homestuck}}'' is a very sore point, due to ''Homestuck'' being infamous for its very...vocal fandom, to say the least, and people who paint their skin but don't bother to seal it, causing whatever they touch to be smeared with grey. Needless to say, those cosplayers, often the VocalMajority, VocalMinority, have ruined ''Homestuck'' cosplay for people who do want to cosplay trolls but are more professional about it.
16th Jul '17 11:43:40 AM Madrugada
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%% As an addition to the above, please don't list your personal pet peeves related to works here. Only list something if the majority of the fanbase is thrown into a rage/annoyed by it.

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%% As an addition to the above, please don't list your personal pet peeves related to works here. Only list something if the majority of the fanbase is thrown into a rage/annoyed rage by it.
16th Jul '17 11:33:11 AM Madrugada
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* If you want your companions to sneer at you, add sugar to your tea in a Chinese or Japanese restaurant.
** In the southern US, it's the opposite: don't ask for unsweetened iced tea.
* Do not cut whole pizza using scissors, unless you're in Rome and run a parlor for ''pizza al taglio'', in which case why are you reading this?
* Pineapple on pizza is a big no-no for some.
* Don't hold your chopsticks crossed; it's a quick way to stand out as a tourist in countries that primarily use chopsticks for utensils. Don't ask for Western utensils either, for the same reasons, unless a particular dish does call for their use (such as curry rice in Japan, which is always served with a spoon).
* If you are discussing UsefulNotes/RamenAsDehydratedNoodles, note that it is a sore point amongst fresh ramen enthusiasts to call it just "ramen" and not something like "instant ramen" or "instant noodles".
** At a FanConvention, don't thrive off of instant noodles unless you want nutrition-conscious folks to give you the stink-eye. Perhaps justified, as doing so is a good way to get sick from dehydration.
* Steeping tea in teabags and not loose-leaf in pots will get you weird looks in parts of the world where tea is a major commodity.
* Asking for ketchup on your hot dog in Chicago can get you plenty of dirty looks from the local populace, especially if you look like an adult, as ketchup, as a hot dog topping, is viewed as kids' food there. (Ketchup is perfectly acceptable to use with French fries, hamburgers, or any other food the rest of the world associates with ketchup though.) Detroit has a milder form of this: you can put ketchup on your hot dog, but ''not'' on a coney dog. Outside of these places, however, no one really cares.
** Somewhat more complex are the people who object to ketchup being put in anything, such as some food-lovers and some chefs. Even French fries will cause them to throw a fit. At Father's Office, for instance, no ketchup is served whatsoever, despite being a hamburger restaurant, because the head chef, Yang Soon, loathes ketchup's very existence. Fries are served with garlic aioli. Ketchup is confiscated if smuggled in.
* Do you enjoy milk? Do not consume any sort of reduced/low-fat milk. Consuming fat-free skim milk may as well be a capital offense.
* For that matter, consuming low-fat or zero-fat ''anything'' will draw ire from fans of those foods.
* Coffee? Never, ''ever'' order it decaf, or you will lose all of your friends. Don't let them catch you putting milk/cream or sugar in your coffee, either. Unless the coffee is espresso and you're in Italy, in which case ''do'' put sugar in, if you don't want your friends to think you are clinically insane.
* Don't admit to enjoying Starbucks in front of serious coffee lovers, either.
* Don't try to talk vegans or vegetarians out of their diets by pointing to burgers or bacon, especially if people are following these diets for ethical reasons. Vegans are also tired of being asked where they get their protein. At the same time, meat eaters are perfectly aware that an animal had to die to give them the chicken or steak on their plates.

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* If you want your companions to sneer at you, add sugar to your tea in a Chinese or Japanese restaurant.
** In the southern US, it's the opposite: don't ask for unsweetened iced tea.
* Do not cut whole pizza using scissors, unless you're in Rome and run a parlor for ''pizza al taglio'', in which case why are you reading this?
* Pineapple on pizza is a big no-no for some.
* Don't hold
Hold your chopsticks crossed; it's a quick way to stand out as a tourist in countries that primarily use chopsticks for utensils. Don't ask for Western utensils either, for the same reasons, unless a particular dish does call for their use (such as curry rice in Japan, which is always served with a spoon).
* If you are discussing UsefulNotes/RamenAsDehydratedNoodles, note that it is a sore point amongst fresh ramen enthusiasts to call it just "ramen" and not something like "instant ramen" or "instant noodles".
** At a FanConvention, don't thrive off of instant noodles unless you want nutrition-conscious folks to give you
*At the stink-eye. Perhaps justified, as doing so is a good way to get sick from dehydration.
* Steeping tea in teabags and not loose-leaf in pots will get you weird looks in parts of the world where tea is a major commodity.
* Asking for ketchup on your hot dog in Chicago can get you plenty of dirty looks from the local populace, especially if you look like an adult, as ketchup, as a hot dog topping, is viewed as kids' food there. (Ketchup is perfectly acceptable to use with French fries, hamburgers, or any other food the rest of the world associates with ketchup though.) Detroit has a milder form of this: you can put ketchup on your hot dog, but ''not'' on a coney dog. Outside of these places, however, no one really cares.
** Somewhat more complex are the people who object to ketchup being put in anything, such as some food-lovers and some chefs. Even French fries will cause them to throw a fit. At Father's Office, for instance,
restaurant "Father's Office", no ketchup is served whatsoever, despite being a hamburger restaurant, because the head chef, Yang Soon, loathes ketchup's very existence. Fries are served with garlic aioli. Ketchup is confiscated if smuggled in. \n* Do you enjoy milk? Do not consume any sort of reduced/low-fat milk. Consuming fat-free skim milk may as well be a capital offense.\n* For that matter, consuming low-fat or zero-fat ''anything'' will draw ire from fans of those foods.\n* Coffee? Never, ''ever'' order it decaf, or you will lose all of your friends. Don't let them catch you putting milk/cream or sugar in your coffee, either. Unless the coffee is espresso and you're in Italy, in which case ''do'' put sugar in, if you don't want your friends to think you are clinically insane.\n* Don't admit to enjoying Starbucks in front of serious coffee lovers, either.\n* Don't try to talk vegans or vegetarians out of their diets by pointing to burgers or bacon, especially if people are following these diets for ethical reasons. Vegans are also tired of being asked where they get their protein. At the same time, meat eaters are perfectly aware that an animal had to die to give them the chicken or steak on their plates.



* Eating curry? The only acceptable spiciness level is the highest one offered for whatever eatery you're at or whatever brand you're eating. Going for a "mild" level will illicit accusations of missing the point of curry.
* For that matter, if a dish is known for spiciness, you must ALWAYS go for the highest level of spiciness. Anything less is a sign of weakness to your spice-loving for friends, especially ANYTHING labeled "mild".
* Are you a man at a bar with your male friends? Beer is the only acceptable kind of beverage. Anything with sweetness apparently is [[NoTrueScotsman grounds for losing your man license]].

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* Eating curry? The only acceptable spiciness level is the highest one offered for whatever eatery you're at or whatever brand you're eating. Going for a "mild" level will illicit accusations of missing the point of curry.
* For that matter, if a dish is known for spiciness, you must ALWAYS go for the highest level of spiciness. Anything less is a sign of weakness to your spice-loving for friends, especially ANYTHING labeled "mild".
* Are you a man at a bar with your male friends? Beer is the only acceptable kind of beverage. Anything with sweetness apparently is [[NoTrueScotsman grounds for losing your man license]].
12th Jul '17 2:39:37 PM LucaEarlgrey
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* Around many cosplay communities, cosplaying the trolls from ''Webcomic/{{Homestuck}}'' is a very sore point, due to ''Homestuck'' being infamous for its very...vocal fandom, to say the least, and people who paint their skin but don't bother to seal it, causing whatever they touch to be smeared with grey.

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* Around many cosplay communities, cosplaying the trolls from ''Webcomic/{{Homestuck}}'' is a very sore point, due to ''Homestuck'' being infamous for its very...vocal fandom, to say the least, and people who paint their skin but don't bother to seal it, causing whatever they touch to be smeared with grey. Needless to say, those cosplayers, often the VocalMajority, have ruined ''Homestuck'' cosplay for people who do want to cosplay trolls but are more professional about it.
12th Jul '17 2:33:18 PM LucaEarlgrey
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* ''Never'' mention Milanoo ''(sic)''. Even if you ordered something from them and liked it, fellow cosplayers don't care.
* Don't use your natural hair instead of a wig.
* Around many cosplay communities, cosplaying the trolls from ''Webcomic/{{Homestuck}}'' is a very sore point, due to ''Homestuck'' being infamous for its very...vocal fandom, to say the least, and people who paint their skin but don't bother to seal it, causing whatever they touch to be smeared with grey.
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* Do not wear socks with sandals.
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