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17th Aug '16 12:09:42 PM erforce
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* Deconstructed slightly in ''Film/{{Scarface}}''. Tony ''tries'' to be a FamilyValuesVillain who's concerned with his long-suffering mother and baby sister, though it turns out they don't quite appreciate it. His mother is fully aware of what Tony did to become "a success" and is openly ashamed of his gangster lifestyle. His sister keeps an open mind and loves Tony in spite of his faults [[spoiler: but her relationship with Tony winds up costing her her life. Tony attempts to play this Trope straight by refusing to kill a politician while he's riding in a car with his children, only to find the cartel he's allied himself with aren't pleased with this arbitrary sense of morality and promptly gun him down.]]

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* Deconstructed slightly in ''Film/{{Scarface}}''.''Film/{{Scarface 1983}}''. Tony ''tries'' to be a FamilyValuesVillain who's concerned with his long-suffering mother and baby sister, though it turns out they don't quite appreciate it. His mother is fully aware of what Tony did to become "a success" and is openly ashamed of his gangster lifestyle. His sister keeps an open mind and loves Tony in spite of his faults [[spoiler: but her relationship with Tony winds up costing her her life. Tony attempts to play this Trope straight by refusing to kill a politician while he's riding in a car with his children, only to find the cartel he's allied himself with aren't pleased with this arbitrary sense of morality and promptly gun him down.]]
24th Jul '16 3:29:21 PM nombretomado
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* The snobs who run the kids' summer camp in ''Film/AddamsFamilyValues'' are [[FauxAffablyEvil smarmily intolerant]] of anyone who doesn't measure up to their [[DarkSkinnedBlond blond-haired, tanned,]] country-club ideal, which leads them to persecute Wednesday and Puggsley and their AmbiguouslyJewish friend, as well as to slip some [[CondescendingCompassion Condescendingly Compassionate]] rhetoric about Native Americans into a camp skit about the first Thanksgiving. They also believe in being outwardly wholesome ''all the time'', [[StepfordSmiler smiling nonstop]] and encouraging children to enjoy "clean" entertainment like ''TheBradyBunch''. An AlternateCharacterInterpretation is that they're not actually villainous and really ''try'' to be compassionate, but [[ObliviouslyEvil they're so clueless about anyone who is different from them that their efforts come across as awkward at best]].

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* The snobs who run the kids' summer camp in ''Film/AddamsFamilyValues'' are [[FauxAffablyEvil smarmily intolerant]] of anyone who doesn't measure up to their [[DarkSkinnedBlond blond-haired, tanned,]] country-club ideal, which leads them to persecute Wednesday and Puggsley and their AmbiguouslyJewish friend, as well as to slip some [[CondescendingCompassion Condescendingly Compassionate]] rhetoric about Native Americans into a camp skit about the first Thanksgiving. They also believe in being outwardly wholesome ''all the time'', [[StepfordSmiler smiling nonstop]] and encouraging children to enjoy "clean" entertainment like ''TheBradyBunch''.''Series/TheBradyBunch''. An AlternateCharacterInterpretation is that they're not actually villainous and really ''try'' to be compassionate, but [[ObliviouslyEvil they're so clueless about anyone who is different from them that their efforts come across as awkward at best]].
9th Jun '16 5:18:56 PM nighttrainfm
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** Villain Mayor Richard Wilkins III is really the pinnacle of this trope. He's made deals with dozens of different demons, founded a town specifically so he could lure in people to be killed by monsters, orders numerous thefts and assassinations (including against newborn infants), and his master plan is to become a giant demon that will devour everyone in sight. But he still believes in setting a good example for the children, is disgusted by "immoral liaisons" at the local motel, and his last words to his vampire army before the final battle are, "And boys? Let's watch the swearing." Really, what makes the Mayor interesting is that there's never really ''any'' hint that his personality is the mask--it remains consistent throughout, except for a brief, understandable VillainousBreakdown after Buffy puts his MoralityPet [[LikeASonToMe Faith]] into a coma. Unlike many examples of this trope he's not really a KnightTemplar ''or'' a hypocrite--he's just [[AffablyEvil a generally nice guy whose chief ambition]], incongruously, is [[ScaledUp turning into a gigantic demon snake]]. In one episode he celebrates an evil scheme well done with a hearty "Gosh I'm feeling chipper! ''Who's for a root beer!?''" When he realizes his plan's gone amok [[spoiler:after ascending to demonhood and finding himself face-to-face with a room full of high explosives, his last words]] and only response is, "Well, gosh."

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** Villain Mayor Richard Wilkins III is really the pinnacle of this trope. He's made deals with dozens of different demons, founded a town specifically so he could lure in people to be killed by monsters, orders numerous thefts and assassinations (including against newborn infants), and his master plan is to become a giant demon that will devour everyone in sight. But he still believes in setting a good example for the children, is disgusted by "immoral liaisons" at the local motel, and his last words to his vampire army before the final battle are, "And boys? Let's watch the swearing." Really, what "
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makes the Mayor interesting is that there's never really ''any'' hint that his personality is the mask--it remains consistent throughout, except for a brief, understandable VillainousBreakdown after Buffy puts his MoralityPet [[LikeASonToMe Faith]] into a coma. Unlike many examples of this trope he's not really a KnightTemplar ''or'' a hypocrite--he's just [[AffablyEvil a generally nice guy whose chief ambition]], incongruously, is [[ScaledUp turning into a gigantic demon snake]]. In one episode he celebrates an evil scheme well done with a hearty "Gosh I'm feeling chipper! ''Who's for a root beer!?''" When he realizes his plan's gone amok [[spoiler:after ascending to demonhood and finding himself face-to-face with a room full of high explosives, his last words]] and only response is, "Well, gosh."
9th Jun '16 5:16:24 PM nighttrainfm
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** Malack himself easily qualifies. Just watch him discuss parenthood with Vaarsuvius, pursue vengeance against Nale for the death of his children, and [[spoiler: forcibly turn Durkon into a new member of his [[ILoveYouVampireSon vampiric "family"]] when their moral differences prove insurmountable]].

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** Malack himself easily qualifies. Just watch him discuss parenthood with Vaarsuvius, pursue vengeance against Nale for the death of his children, and [[spoiler: forcibly turn Durkon into a new member of his [[ILoveYouVampireSon vampiric "family"]] when their moral differences prove insurmountable]].insurmountable.]]
9th Jun '16 5:16:16 PM nighttrainfm
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* General Tarquin of ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick''. He puts a "Baby on Board" sign on his war chariot, offers heartfelt apologizes to his partner in crime [[EvilChancellor Malack]] when Tarquin upsets him, is unfailing polite, and a devoted father. But he also leads a militaristic nation, burns escaped slaves alive. In a comic that sums up his relationship perfectly, he is laughing heartily eating ice cream with his son, while walking past a statue of Tarquin beheading someone.

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General Tarquin of ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick''. He puts a "Baby on Board" sign on his war chariot, offers heartfelt apologizes apologies to his partner in crime [[EvilChancellor [[SinisterMinister Malack]] when Tarquin upsets him, is unfailing polite, and a devoted father. But he also leads a militaristic nation, burns has escaped slaves alive.burned alive as punishment, and regularly forces women to marry him through torture. In a comic that sums up his relationship perfectly, he is laughing heartily eating ice cream with his son, while walking past a statue of Tarquin beheading someone.
9th Jun '16 5:14:35 PM nighttrainfm
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* In ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'', this is the Cardassians' [[PlanetOfHats Hat]], best exemplified by Gul Dukat.

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* In ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'', this is the Cardassians' [[PlanetOfHats Hat]], best exemplified by Gul Dukat.Dukat - husband, father and totally unrepentant imperialist.
14th May '16 3:37:40 PM AdamC
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* Deconstructed slightly in ''Film/{{Scarface}}''. Tony ''tries'' to be a FamilyValuesVillain who's concerned with his long-suffering mother and baby sister, though it turns out they don't quite appreciate it. His mother is fully aware of what Tony did to become "a success" and is openly ashamed of his gangster lifestyle. His sister keeps an open mind and loves Tony in spite of his faults [[spoiler: but her relationship with Tony winds up costing her her life. Tony attempts to play this Trope straight by refusing to kill a politician while he's riding in a car with his children, only to find the cartel he's allied himself with aren't pleased with this arbitrary sense of morality and promptly gun him down.]]
4th May '16 11:05:15 AM MsChibi
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Compare StraightEdgeEvil, EvilVirtues, and ChurchgoingVillain. Contrast with MoralDissonance or ValuesDissonance, where an ostensibly family-friendly character can ''unintentionally'' appear villainous to some. Almost always certain to be AffablyEvil. Occasionally overlaps with HeteronormativeCrusader and HonorRelatedAbuse.

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Compare StraightEdgeEvil, EvilVirtues, and ChurchgoingVillain. Contrast with MoralDissonance or ValuesDissonance, where an ostensibly family-friendly character can ''unintentionally'' appear villainous to some. Almost always certain to be AffablyEvil. Occasionally overlaps with HeteronormativeCrusader HeteronormativeCrusader, NewMediaAreEvil, and HonorRelatedAbuse.HonorRelatedAbuse. See also TheWarOnStraw.
4th May '16 11:03:32 AM MsChibi
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And for a handful of villains, that line is, "Anything [[Series/TheBradyBunch the Brady kids]] learned AnAesop about." Yes, these are bad guys who believe in good old fashioned family values. Being a kingpin in the international drug trade might be fine, but giving alcohol to minors, most certainly not! It's their duty as a loyal citizen to show respect and admiration for the local police, but nothing says they can't do that ''and'' bribe the cops into murdering their enemies. [[SexIsEvilAndIAmHorny And, of course]], sexual intercourse outside of marriage is strictly prohibitedů unless it's non-consensual, then they can just go wild.

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And for a handful of villains, that line is, "Anything [[Series/TheBradyBunch the Brady kids]] learned AnAesop about." Yes, these are bad guys who believe in good old fashioned family values. Being a kingpin in the international drug trade might be fine, but giving alcohol to minors, most certainly not! It's their duty as a loyal citizen to show respect and admiration for the local police, but nothing says they can't do that ''and'' bribe the cops into murdering their enemies. [[SexIsEvilAndIAmHorny And, of course]], sexual intercourse outside of marriage (especially if it's not done with the intention of baby-making) is strictly prohibitedů unless it's non-consensual, then they can just go wild.



Compare StraightEdgeEvil, EvilVirtues, and ChurchgoingVillain. Contrast with MoralDissonance or ValuesDissonance, where an ostensibly family-friendly character can ''unintentionally'' appear villainous to some. Almost always certain to be AffablyEvil.

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Compare StraightEdgeEvil, EvilVirtues, and ChurchgoingVillain. Contrast with MoralDissonance or ValuesDissonance, where an ostensibly family-friendly character can ''unintentionally'' appear villainous to some. Almost always certain to be AffablyEvil.
AffablyEvil. Occasionally overlaps with HeteronormativeCrusader and HonorRelatedAbuse.
30th Apr '16 3:01:20 AM Fireblood
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** When Jabba the Hutt had captured the Heroes of Yavin and enslaved Leia, he handed her over to Boba Fett for the night. When Leia prepared to defend herself against a rape attempt, Fett all but rolled his eyes, gave Leia a lecture on the wrongs of premarital sex, and sat beside the door all night so that Leia could have the bed. He may be the nastiest bounty hunter in the galaxy, but he will not abandon his convictions.

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** When Jabba the Hutt had captured the Heroes of Yavin and enslaved Leia, he handed her over to Boba Fett for the night. When Leia prepared to defend herself against a rape attempt, Fett all but rolled his eyes, gave Leia a lecture on the wrongs of premarital sex, and sat beside the door all night so that Leia could have the bed. He may be the nastiest bounty hunter in the galaxy, but he will not abandon his convictions. Later stories show him as entirely faithful to his wife, even after they've become estranged and lived separately for years (this [[CanonDiscontinuity contradicts earlier material]] where he had never even ''held'' a woman).



** All of Baltimore's gangsters can be taken into consideration since they all abide to the "Sunday Truce" in which all beef is put aside so the people of west Baltimore (gangsters and citizens alike) can attend church with no fear of violence. When the truce is violated, the two shooters are chewed out and ridiculed mercilessly for such a shame.

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** All of Baltimore's gangsters can be taken into consideration since they all abide to by the "Sunday Truce" in which all beef is put aside so the people of west Baltimore (gangsters and citizens alike) can attend church with no fear of violence. When the truce is violated, the two shooters are chewed out and ridiculed mercilessly for such a shame.



* The Governor from ''Series/TheWalkingDead'' is this. He hides his villainy behind a facade of Southern charm, and seems at time to genuinely care about the people living in the town. He is, however, not averse to committing acts of violence.

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* The Governor from ''Series/TheWalkingDead'' is this. He hides his villainy behind a facade of Southern charm, and seems at time times to genuinely care about the people living in the town. He is, however, not averse to committing acts of violence.



--> '''Scorpio''' ''(while supervising defense against a Special Forces attack while his doomsday weapon ticks down in the background):'' Well, Homer, I hate to lose you; gonna miss you. But you have to do what's best for your family. And listen, [[MoodWhiplash if you could kill someone on your way out,]] that'd be a big help. ''(picks up a flamethrower)'' Bye now!

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--> '''Scorpio''' ''(while supervising defense against a US Special Forces attack while his doomsday weapon ticks down in the background):'' Well, Homer, I hate to lose you; gonna miss you. But you have to do what's best for your family. And listen, [[MoodWhiplash if you could kill someone on your way out,]] that'd be a big help. ''(picks up a flamethrower)'' Bye now!
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