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26th May '18 10:44:18 PM gophergiggles
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* Black Manta from ''{{WesternAnimation/Young Justice}}'' deserves a place here for using a terrorist mission to teach his son a lesson about honesty.

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* Black Manta from ''{{WesternAnimation/Young Justice}}'' Justice}}'':
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deserves a place here for using a terrorist mission to teach his son a lesson about honesty.honesty.
** The Light strongly approve of family values, albeit in a [[BlueAndOrangeMorality messed up way]] as they praise the aforementioned Black Manta for his desire to bring his son into the fold. They later sympathize with a villain who's heroic daughter was killed by a rival villain and offer him a generous cash compensation, despite said hero being one of their mortal enemies who any of them would have killed in a heartbeat, while simultaneously refusing to let him murder the rival villain's son.
6th May '18 9:00:03 PM ectostar
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->'''Faith:''' Thanks, SugarDaddy!\\
'''The Mayor:''' ''(admonishingly)'' Now, Faith, I don't find that sort of thing amusing. I'm a family man. ''(jovial)'' Now, let's kill your little friend.

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->'''Faith:''' ->'''Faith''': Thanks, SugarDaddy!\\
'''The Mayor:''' Mayor''': ''(admonishingly)'' Now, Faith, I don't find that sort of thing amusing. I'm a family man. ''(jovial)'' Now, let's kill your little friend.



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-->'''Azazel''': How would you feel if I killed your family? [[HypocrisyNod Oh, that's right. I forgot. I did.]] Still, two wrongs don't make a right.

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-->'''Azazel''': --->'''Azazel''': How would you feel if I killed your family? [[HypocrisyNod Oh, that's right. I forgot. I did.]] Still, two wrongs don't make a right.



--->'''Vaarsuvius:''' Have you considered adoption? I'm certain this war climate provides no shortage of orphans.\\
'''Malack:''' It has crossed my mind, but I'm worried about not having, you know, that special bond...

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--->'''Vaarsuvius:''' --->'''Vaarsuvius''': Have you considered adoption? I'm certain this war climate provides no shortage of orphans.\\
'''Malack:''' '''Malack''': It has crossed my mind, but I'm worried about not having, you know, that special bond...



--> '''Scorpio''' ''(while supervising defense against a US Special Forces attack while his doomsday weapon ticks down in the background):'' Well, Homer, I hate to lose you; gonna miss you. But you have to do what's best for your family. And listen, [[MoodWhiplash if you could kill someone on your way out,]] that'd be a big help. ''(picks up a flamethrower)'' Bye now! *Laughs maniacally while he attacks the US troops*

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--> '''Scorpio''' ''(while supervising defense against a US Special Forces attack while his doomsday weapon ticks down in the background):'' background)'': Well, Homer, I hate to lose you; gonna miss you. But you have to do what's best for your family. And listen, [[MoodWhiplash if you could kill someone on your way out,]] that'd be a big help. ''(picks up a flamethrower)'' Bye now! *Laughs maniacally while he attacks the US troops*



** A later example both plays this straight and role-inverts it; in one episode[[note]]The one where the KND is trying to save someone from getting a bad haircut from his dad; long story[[/note]], it's revealed that [[spoiler: [[BadBoss Mr. Boss]] and Numbuh 86 are ''father and daughter.'']] They make it clear that the fact that their respective organizations are perpetually at each other's throats doesn't stop them from loving one another as family.

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** A later example both plays this straight and role-inverts it; in one episode[[note]]The one where the KND is trying to save someone from getting a bad haircut from his dad; long story[[/note]], it's revealed that [[spoiler: [[BadBoss Mr. Boss]] and Numbuh 86 are ''father and daughter.'']] daughter''.]] They make it clear that the fact that their respective organizations are perpetually at each other's throats doesn't stop them from loving one another as family.
28th Mar '18 9:22:15 PM nombretomado
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* This is an interesting secondary [[PlanetOfHats hat]] of the [[ProudWarriorRace Mandalorians]] in the StarWarsExpandedUniverse. The name they call themselves literally translates to "children of Mandalore" and they see all who follow the Mandalorian way as kin in one big, war-mongering family. They are also fanatically family-oriented, and consider getting married and raising children into the Mandalorian life as a sacred tenet (with the father doing the bulk of it). [[note]] Their ''worst'' insult is to call someone "no longer a Mandalorian." Their ''second'' worst insult more or less translates to "deadbeat dad."[[/note]] [[{{Deconstruction}} Part of the reason they have such a long-standing disagreement with Jedi is due to the Jedi policy of separating Force-sensitive children from their families and forbidding them contact]].

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This is an interesting secondary [[PlanetOfHats hat]] of the [[ProudWarriorRace Mandalorians]] in the StarWarsExpandedUniverse.Mandalorians]]. The name they call themselves literally translates to "children of Mandalore" and they see all who follow the Mandalorian way as kin in one big, war-mongering family. They are also fanatically family-oriented, and consider getting married and raising children into the Mandalorian life as a sacred tenet (with the father doing the bulk of it). [[note]] Their ''worst'' insult is to call someone "no longer a Mandalorian." Their ''second'' worst insult more or less translates to "deadbeat dad."[[/note]] [[{{Deconstruction}} Part of the reason they have such a long-standing disagreement with Jedi is due to the Jedi policy of separating Force-sensitive children from their families and forbidding them contact]].



* Also from the StarWarsExpandedUniverse, the Yuuzhan Vong from ''Literature/NewJediOrder'' have a strong streak of this mixed in with being the CombatSadomasochist ScaryDogmaticAliens they're better known as. The fundamental basis of Vong society is the Domain--essentially, clan or extended family. Domain loyalty is a ''huge'' deal (to the extent that the idea of refusing to aid even a member of your Domain that you hate personally is unthinkable), and Vong characters will go to extreme lengths to protect family honor. This is most exemplified by [[TheDragon Warmaster Tsavong Lah]], who greatly reveres his father Czulkang, treats him with utmost respect despite their having once bitterly argued over the direction of Yuuzhan Vong policy, and is utterly devastated when the old man dies in battle (Czulkang returns the favor, reserving his last words for his son's ears alone, and then refusing to speak again even to give his crew final orders so he won't break his promise). Furthermore, when one of Lah's spies reports that Han Solo and Leia Organa are not on speaking terms at the moment despite being married, the Warmaster is stunned--after all, by human standards it's a comparatively mild fight that gets resolved by the end of the book, but to the Vong, that kind of inner-family strife is shockingly dysfunctional. Later in the series, the heroes even note that the Vong's family values may be alien, but they're very strong.

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* Also from the StarWarsExpandedUniverse, the ** The Yuuzhan Vong from ''Literature/NewJediOrder'' have a strong streak of this mixed in with being the CombatSadomasochist ScaryDogmaticAliens they're better known as. The fundamental basis of Vong society is the Domain--essentially, clan or extended family. Domain loyalty is a ''huge'' deal (to the extent that the idea of refusing to aid even a member of your Domain that you hate personally is unthinkable), and Vong characters will go to extreme lengths to protect family honor. This is most exemplified by [[TheDragon Warmaster Tsavong Lah]], who greatly reveres his father Czulkang, treats him with utmost respect despite their having once bitterly argued over the direction of Yuuzhan Vong policy, and is utterly devastated when the old man dies in battle (Czulkang returns the favor, reserving his last words for his son's ears alone, and then refusing to speak again even to give his crew final orders so he won't break his promise). Furthermore, when one of Lah's spies reports that Han Solo and Leia Organa are not on speaking terms at the moment despite being married, the Warmaster is stunned--after all, by human standards it's a comparatively mild fight that gets resolved by the end of the book, but to the Vong, that kind of inner-family strife is shockingly dysfunctional. Later in the series, the heroes even note that the Vong's family values may be alien, but they're very strong.
5th Feb '18 4:19:47 AM Morgenthaler
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9th Jan '18 9:22:09 AM hszmv1
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** This trope is arguably the main theme of BreakingBad. WalterWhite has a number of scenes were he can go from BryanCranston channeling Hal from ''Series/MalcolmInTheMiddle'' to "The Man Who Knocks" in very little time. In fact, the fact that Walter got into his drug making operation to support his family is what endears Gus to working with him, while the murder of family is what motivates the Salamancas' to want to kill both of them. Hank nearly lost his job after he beat up Jesse when Jesse made him fear for his wife's life by calling in a fake life threatening injury to throw Hank off the case. Even the prequel series BetterCallSaul has this as an overarching theme.
8th Nov '17 9:58:24 PM Medinoc
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** Villain Mayor Richard Wilkins III is really the pinnacle of this trope. He's made deals with dozens of different demons, founded a town specifically so he could lure in people to be killed by monsters, orders numerous thefts and assassinations (including against newborn infants), and his master plan is to become a giant demon that will devour everyone in sight. But he still believes in setting a good example for the children, is disgusted by "immoral liaisons" at the local motel, and his last words to his vampire army before the final battle are "And boys? Let's watch the swearing."

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** Villain Mayor Richard Wilkins III is really the pinnacle of this trope. He's made deals with dozens of different demons, founded a town specifically so he could lure in people to be killed by monsters, orders numerous thefts and assassinations (including against newborn infants), infants as payment for a demon), and his master plan is to become a giant demon that will devour everyone in sight. But he still believes in setting a good example for the children, is disgusted by "immoral liaisons" at the local motel, and his last words to his vampire army before the final battle are "And boys? Let's watch the swearing."
9th Aug '17 9:13:00 AM TheUnknownUploader
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** Joe, the leader of the Claimers, is fine with murder and rape, but will not tolerate lying.
19th Mar '17 11:25:36 PM angie710
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* Light Yagami from ''Manga/DeathNote'', who wants to destroy criminals. He normally focuses on those who commit serious crimes like rape and murder, although he does at one point kills a purse snatcher...and eventually planned to kill people for such ''[[SarcasmMode horrible]]'' crimes as being lazy (by [[JapaneseSpirit Japanese standards]], of course). All in the name of creating a "perfect world."
8th Feb '17 2:42:51 PM Scabbard
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** When Jabba the Hutt had captured the Heroes of Yavin and enslaved Leia, [[Literature/TalesOfTheBountyHunters he handed her over to Boba Fett for the night.]] When Leia prepared to defend herself against a rape attempt, Fett all but rolled his eyes, told Leia extramarital sex and rape were immoral, [[DrugsAreBad scolded her for dating a spice smuggler]] like Han Solo. then sat beside the door all night so that Leia could have the bed. He may be the nastiest bounty hunter in the galaxy, but he will not abandon his convictions. Later stories show him as entirely faithful to his wife, even after they've become estranged and lived separately for years (this [[CanonDiscontinuity contradicts earlier material]] where he had never even ''held'' a woman).

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** When Jabba the Hutt had captured the Heroes of Yavin and enslaved Leia, [[Literature/TalesOfTheBountyHunters he handed her over to Boba Fett for the night.]] When Leia prepared to defend herself against a rape attempt, Fett all but rolled his eyes, told Leia extramarital sex and rape were immoral, [[DrugsAreBad scolded her for dating a spice smuggler]] like Han Solo. Solo, then sat beside the door all night so that Leia could have the bed. He may be the nastiest bounty hunter in the galaxy, but he will not abandon his convictions. Later stories show him as entirely faithful to his wife, even after they've become estranged and lived separately for years (this [[CanonDiscontinuity contradicts earlier material]] where he had never even ''held'' a woman).
14th Dec '16 5:42:55 AM TheAmazingBlachman
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'''The Mayor:''' Faith, I don't find that sort of thing amusing, I'm a family man. Now, let's kill your little friend.

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'''The Mayor:''' ''(admonishingly)'' Now, Faith, I don't find that sort of thing amusing, amusing. I'm a family man. ''(jovial)'' Now, let's kill your little friend.
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