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26th Nov '16 8:58:20 AM xelldx
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** This kind of upbringing presented problems for Toph later in her life in the SequelSeries ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra''.

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** This kind of upbringing presented a whole new set of problems for Toph later in her life in the SequelSeries ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra''.
26th Nov '16 8:57:34 AM xelldx
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** This kind of upbringing presented problems for Toph later in her life in the SequelSeries ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra''.
8th Aug '16 7:15:48 PM Tightwire
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* People with epilepsy or similar seizure-inducing disabilities are not legally allowed to drive, or take a wide variety of jobs without undergoing a risk-assessment, in the case that they might have a seizure. It theoretically makes their lives safer, but in practice it severely limits employment options. Also, the less-well-informed sometimes assume that all epileptics should wear protective headgear all the time, and if they don't, they're not 'properly' epileptic.

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* People with epilepsy or similar seizure-inducing disabilities are not legally allowed to drive, or take a wide variety of jobs without undergoing a risk-assessment, in the case event that they might have a seizure. It theoretically makes their lives safer, but in practice it severely limits employment options.options regardless of the severity of their seizures. Also, the less-well-informed sometimes assume that all epileptics should wear protective headgear all the time, and if they don't, they're not 'properly' epileptic.
8th Aug '16 7:13:13 PM Tightwire
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* A common problem for those who are [[TheMentallyDisturbed mentally ill]] in RealLife. Mental and neurological illness can be disabling, sometimes to the point where those who suffer from it cannot work or cannot drive a vehicle. People with these "disabilities" need support and help -- which is why they often seek financial assistance or learn to use public transportation, for example. Having a mental or neurological condition does not, by itself, make someone insane, irrational, intellectually deficient, prone to violence, or in any way not a capable, reasonable adult. Many people who, for example, cannot sustain a job because their depression is too strong, or cannot drive due to epileptic seizures, are in all other ways completely capable of unassisted daily living, relatively normal human social interaction, etc.
* The stereotype of developmental, intellectual, and learning disabilities all gets piled into assuming ''anyone'' with those disabilities is incapable of independent adult functioning and must be treated as a small child or someone at the severest extreme of those disabilities. Almost all ''learning disabled'' people are perfectly capable of independent living as adults, though they may need assistive devices or help with, say, reading or mathematics - dyslexia and dyscalculia, for example, have no impact on intelligence itself, especially if recognized and properly compensated for. Even direct intellectual disability itself doesn't ''necessarily'' mean that someone is "stupid" or legally incompetent - it is quite possible for someone with borderline intellectual disability to be "slow but normal," in that there's really not that much difference from an IQ of 75 (that would be at the low end of "normal" but people with this IQ have gotten high school educations, have, in the absence of other disabilities been employable, etc) and one of 70 (which is considered the starting point for intellectual disability)
* The "invisible" disabilities lend themselves to a cruel irony regarding this: if someone tries to cover up invisible disability to those with no need to know, or if it is one that is only noticeable in aspects most people would not see at first glance (for example, anything from cancer to depression to HIV/AIDS could fall under this), the disabled person gets accused of either faking or lying because they're not helpless and stereotypical, or of being "too private" or similar. Unfortunately, if the person reveals that they have cancer/depression/fibromyalgia/HIV/whatever, they then get hit with ''both'' this and with speculation and stigma in regard to mental health or HIV or such.

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* A common problem for those who are [[TheMentallyDisturbed mentally ill]] in RealLife. Mental and neurological illness can be disabling, sometimes to the point where those who suffer from it cannot work or cannot drive a vehicle. People with these "disabilities" need support and help -- which is why they often seek financial assistance or learn to use public transportation, for example. Having a mental or neurological condition does not, by itself, make someone insane, irrational, intellectually deficient, prone to violence, or in any way not a capable, reasonable adult. Many people who, for example, cannot sustain
* People with epilepsy or similar seizure-inducing disabilities are not legally allowed to drive, or take
a job because wide variety of jobs without undergoing a risk-assessment, in the case that they might have a seizure. It theoretically makes their depression is too strong, or cannot drive due to epileptic seizures, are lives safer, but in practice it severely limits employment options. Also, the less-well-informed sometimes assume that all other ways completely capable of unassisted daily living, relatively normal human social interaction, etc.
epileptics should wear protective headgear all the time, and if they don't, they're not 'properly' epileptic.
* The stereotype of developmental, intellectual, and learning disabilities all gets piled into assuming ''anyone'' with those disabilities is incapable of independent adult functioning and must be treated as a small child or someone at the severest extreme of those disabilities. Almost all ''learning disabled'' people are perfectly capable of independent living as adults, though they may need assistive devices or help with, say, reading or mathematics - dyslexia and dyscalculia, for example, have no impact on intelligence itself, especially if recognized recognised and properly compensated for. Even direct intellectual disability itself doesn't ''necessarily'' mean that someone is "stupid" or legally incompetent - it is quite possible for someone with borderline intellectual disability to be "slow but normal," in that there's really not that much difference from an IQ of 75 (that would be at the low end of "normal" but people with this IQ have gotten high school educations, have, in the absence of other disabilities been employable, etc) and one of 70 (which is considered the starting point for intellectual disability)
* The "invisible" disabilities lend themselves to a cruel irony regarding this: if someone tries to cover up invisible disability to those with no need to know, or if it is one that is only noticeable in aspects most people would not see at first glance (for example, anything from cancer to depression to HIV/AIDS could fall under this), the disabled person gets accused of either faking or lying because they're not helpless and stereotypical, or of being "too private" or similar. Unfortunately, if the person reveals must reveal that they have cancer/depression/fibromyalgia/HIV/whatever, they then get hit with ''both'' this and with speculation and stigma in regard to mental health or HIV or such.
6th Jun '16 11:48:04 AM Someoneman
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* Deaf actress Marlee Matlin once experienced the "one disability = all disabilities" part of this trope when she was on an overnight flight. The flight attendant was passing out menus for dinner, and Matlin began signing what she wanted to her interpreter. The flight attendant saw her, immediately snatched the menu away, went back to her station, and returned, proudly handing Matlin [[CrowningMomentOfFunny a menu in braille.]] Matlin [[FacePalm facepalmed.]]

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* Deaf actress Marlee Matlin once experienced the "one disability = all disabilities" part of this trope when she was on an overnight flight. The flight attendant was passing out menus for dinner, and Matlin began signing what she wanted to her interpreter. The flight attendant saw her, immediately snatched the menu away, went back to her station, and returned, proudly handing Matlin [[CrowningMomentOfFunny a menu in braille.]] braille. Matlin [[FacePalm facepalmed.]]
7th May '16 2:13:16 PM JJHIL325
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* In the ''{{WesternAnimation/Arthur}}'' episode "Prunella Sees the Light", Prunella invites her blind friend Marina over for a [[Franchise/HarryPotter Henry Skreever]] sleepover. However, she worries that Marina may not see the decoration in her room or may get injured because she is blind. Marina doesn't like the special treatment Prunella is giving her, and Prunella learns to treat Marina just like any other friend, although we also see the tricks and methods that Marina uses in her own house, but here they are ''her'' methods and ''her'' choices.
* An episode of ''WesternAnimation/CliffordTheBigRedDog'' has a three-legged dog. Clifford and T-Bone assume the dog needs a lot of help and Cleo believes the dog has, as she put it, "some kind of leg-losing disease" and if they came into contact with him, they too would get it. At the end of the episode, the dog calls them all out on this, explaining that while he appreciates their help, he can do things himself and assuring Cleo he is not at all ill as she thinks.

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* In the ''{{WesternAnimation/Arthur}}'' episode "Prunella Sees the Light", Prunella invites her blind friend Marina over for a [[Franchise/HarryPotter Henry Skreever]] sleepover. However, she worries that Marina may not see the decoration in her room or may get injured because she is blind. Marina doesn't like the special treatment Prunella is giving her, and fortunately Prunella learns to treat Marina just like any other friend, although we friend. We also get see the tricks and methods that Marina uses in her own house, but here they are ''her'' methods and ''her'' choices.
** An [[WholeEpisodeFlashback earlier episode that flashes back to]] everybody finding out that Buster has asthma has all his friends start dusting things off for him, to the point where he skips out on a trip to the nurses office for his inhaler so they don't worry about it anymore. After that backfires on him, Buster decided to explain how asthma works to his class as part of his school project so they aren't so scared of it, teaching everybody a lesson.
* An episode of ''WesternAnimation/CliffordTheBigRedDog'' has a three-legged dog. Clifford and T-Bone assume the dog needs a lot of help and Cleo believes the dog has, as she put it, "some kind of leg-losing disease" and if they came into contact with him, they too would get it. At the end of the episode, the dog calls them all out on this, explaining that while he appreciates their help, help (and sometimes ''does'' need it), he can do a lot of things himself and assuring assures Cleo he is not at all ill as she thinks.
2nd Apr '16 8:02:42 AM Minni128
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** A particular case in point about this occurs in chapter four, as Ragyou notes that Satsuki is prone to wandering off, leaving her to be criticized and being called irresponsible by other parents when the latter does, as they believe she is helpless and shouldn't be left without supervision. Like her daughter, Ragyou has expressed annoyance particularly at this trope and the hypocrisy of the other parents.

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** A particular case in point about this occurs in chapter four, as Ragyou notes that Satsuki is prone to wandering off, leaving her to be criticized and being called irresponsible by other parents when the latter does, as they believe she is helpless and shouldn't be left without supervision. Like her daughter, Ragyou has expressed annoyance particularly at this trope and and, not just this trope, the hypocrisy of the other parents.parents related to this.
1st Apr '16 7:15:05 PM Minni128
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* People generally have this opinion about a blind Satsuki in ''Feel'', however, she is anything but (aside from needing some help crossing the streets at times), as she's demonstrated. Along that line, like the MarleeMatlin example below, people also assumed she was deaf because she doesn't speak (we do hear her thoughts and ruminations on some matters being expressed internally). As to be expected, she has expressed annoyance at this concept. Likewise, this is averted in a wheelchair-bound Mako's case.

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* People generally have this opinion about a blind Satsuki in ''Feel'', however, she is anything but (aside from needing some help crossing the streets at times), as she's demonstrated. Along that line, like the MarleeMatlin example below, people also assumed she was deaf because she doesn't speak (we do hear her thoughts and ruminations on some matters being expressed internally). As to be expected, she has expressed annoyance at this concept. Likewise, concept.
**A particular case in point about
this occurs in chapter four, as Ragyou notes that Satsuki is averted in a wheelchair-bound Mako's case.prone to wandering off, leaving her to be criticized and being called irresponsible by other parents when the latter does, as they believe she is helpless and shouldn't be left without supervision. Like her daughter, Ragyou has expressed annoyance particularly at this trope and the hypocrisy of the other parents.
1st Apr '16 6:49:10 PM Minni128
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** Very decisively zig-zagged in the final episodes. On one hand, [[spoiler:Nunnally ruthlessly, though regretfully, used WMDs against her brother's forces]]. On the other hand, everything about her in the final episode -- from her [[spoiler:confrontation with Lelouch]] to her outfit in the final scene -- suggests helplessness and even objectification.

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** Very decisively zig-zagged in the final episodes. On one hand, [[spoiler:Nunnally ruthlessly, though regretfully, used WMDs [=WMDs=] against her brother's forces]]. On the other hand, everything about her in the final episode -- from her [[spoiler:confrontation with Lelouch]] to her outfit in the final scene -- suggests helplessness and even objectification.



* People generally have this opinion about a blind Satsuki in ''Feel'', however, she is anything but (aside from needing some help crossing the streets at times), as she's demonstrated. Along that line, like the MarleeMatlin example below, people also assumed she was deaf because she doesn't speak (we do hear her thoughts and ruminations on some matters being expressed internally). As to be expected, she has expressed annoyance at this concept.

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* People generally have this opinion about a blind Satsuki in ''Feel'', however, she is anything but (aside from needing some help crossing the streets at times), as she's demonstrated. Along that line, like the MarleeMatlin example below, people also assumed she was deaf because she doesn't speak (we do hear her thoughts and ruminations on some matters being expressed internally). As to be expected, she has expressed annoyance at this concept.
concept. Likewise, this is averted in a wheelchair-bound Mako's case.
23rd Feb '16 5:07:11 AM Yinyang107
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** Very decisively zig-zagged in the final episodes. On one hand, Nunnally ruthlessly, though regretfully, used WMDs against her brother's forces. On the other hand, everything about her in the final episode -- from her confrontation with Lelouch to her outfit in the final scene -- suggests helplessness and even objectification.

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** Very decisively zig-zagged in the final episodes. On one hand, Nunnally [[spoiler:Nunnally ruthlessly, though regretfully, used WMDs against her brother's forces. forces]]. On the other hand, everything about her in the final episode -- from her confrontation [[spoiler:confrontation with Lelouch Lelouch]] to her outfit in the final scene -- suggests helplessness and even objectification.



* For most of the ''Literature/CodexAlera'' series, [[BadassAbnormal Tavi]] cannot [[ElementalPowers furycraft]], an ability everyone else in the world possesses. Even though he is extremely intelligent and otherwise normal, he was treated as disabled and almost helpless when growing up, because of this lack. He eventually turns that to his advantage during his short but eventful career as a spy, a profession where being underestimated is usually beneficial. [[spoiler: Especially when he ''does'' get the hang of furycrafting later on.]]

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* For most of In the ''Literature/CodexAlera'' series, [[BadassAbnormal Tavi]] cannot [[ElementalPowers furycraft]], an ability everyone else in the world possesses. Even though he is extremely intelligent and otherwise normal, he was treated as disabled and almost helpless when growing up, because of this lack. He eventually turns that to his advantage during his short but eventful career as a spy, a profession where being underestimated is usually beneficial. [[spoiler: Especially when he ''does'' get the hang of furycrafting later on.]]
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