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Thought I\'d point out something that might be good for discussing a clarification of this trope. Shouldn\'t blatent editing of the product be categorized as something else?

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**)This example sounds more like a blatent altering of the product than a flaw in the remastering process.)


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**(This example sounds more like a blatent altering of the product than a flaw in the remastering process.)
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For the video game equivilent, see PortingDisaster.
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* Another infamous case of DVNR would be the Eastern-Only DVD release of "The Complete Tex Avery"--almost all of the shorts have been ravaged with horrible line thinning and erasing, almost making one wonder if the price of this import only set is worth it, especially when it costs more than just getting a laserdisc player and a laserdisc copy of the released in US, un-DVNRed "Complete Tex Avery" set.

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* Another infamous case of DVNR would be the Eastern-Only DVD release of "The Complete Tex Avery"--almost all of the shorts have been ravaged with horrible line thinning and erasing, almost making one wonder if the price of this import only set is worth it, especially when it costs more than just getting a laserdisc player and a laserdisc copy of the released in US, un-DVNRed "Complete "Compleat Tex Avery" set.
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* One particularly notorious example of Digital Destruction would be the infamous Betty Boop: The Definitive Collection series of VHS tapes. One only needs sit through one tape to tell that TheyJustDidntCare-- In ''every single short'', there is blatantly obvious, horrendous line thinning and erasing--this is Digital Destruction at its apitimy, and its enough to make a grown man cry--especially when you consider this is the only official home video releases of all of the Betty Boop shorts! Oddly, the Laserdisc version of The Definitive Collection has no such DVNR damage, with good restorations.

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* One particularly notorious example of Digital Destruction would be the infamous Betty Boop: The Definitive Collection series of VHS tapes. tapes and Laserdiscs. One only needs sit through one tape to tell that TheyJustDidntCare-- In ''every single short'', there is blatantly obvious, horrendous line thinning and erasing--this is Digital Destruction at its apitimy, and its enough to make a grown man cry--especially when you consider this is the only official home video releases of all of the Betty Boop shorts! Oddly, the Laserdisc version of The Definitive Collection has no such DVNR damage, with good restorations.shorts!
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* StarWars has this in spades.



** I don't know about mild really, the whole "remastered" thing is quite bad to be honest. From the obviously low budget, meaning many of the replacement CGI actually looks worse than the original models and effects, to some quite bizarre decisions of what to remove, and some bizarre additions (such as the CGI scutter, and the sound effect of Rimmer crashing into pots and pans in the first episode) just make the whole remastered venture a complete mess and joke. If they had to do it, they should at least have waited until technology let them do it properly, and not make such poor decisions on what to change.

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* Curiously, in the 2009 DVD release of Disney's Pinocchio, Jiminy's line "Look out, Pinoc!" from the end of the "Give a Little Whistle" song has been edited out. Not an atrocity by any means, but anyone who was seen earlier prints of the film will take notice of this.

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** The single-disc "Super Stars" [=DVDs=] include cropped widescreen versions of shorts originally animated in the squarish aspect ratio of 1.37:1.
* Curiously, in the 2009 DVD release of Disney's Pinocchio, ''[[{{Disney/Pinocchio}} Pinocchio]]'', Jiminy's line "Look out, Pinoc!" from the end of the "Give a Little Whistle" song has been edited out. Not an atrocity by any means, but anyone who was seen earlier prints of the film will take notice of this.



* A stunning aversion of this trope would be the first official Popeye the Sailor DVD set, almost completely averting this trope. Yes, ''almost''--if one looks very carefully in certain bits of the shorts, there is some very mild line thinning and or erasing that you would usually need to purposely look for in order to spot. And as John K pointed out in his blog, the color specials have had some bizarre altering--"Popeye Meets Sindbad" has had the pink turned up considerably, and while "Popeye Meets Ali Baba" is very close to actual 1930's colors, the purple bits in the cave have been pulled up.

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* A stunning aversion of this trope would be the first official Popeye the Sailor PopeyeTheSailor DVD set, almost completely averting this trope. Yes, ''almost''--if one looks very carefully in certain bits of the shorts, there is some very mild line thinning and or erasing that you would usually need to purposely look for in order to spot. And as John K pointed out in his blog, the color specials have had some bizarre altering--"Popeye Meets Sindbad" has had the pink turned up considerably, and while "Popeye Meets Ali Baba" is very close to actual 1930's colors, the purple bits in the cave have been pulled up.
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* The original ''{{Predator}}'' received a new Blu-Ray release around the time ''{{Predators}}'' came out in theaters. Consensus among viewers of the re-release is that the restoration has so much DNR, ArnoldSchwarzenegger looks more like a [[http://www.avpgalaxy.net/website/articles/predator-blu-ray-comparison/ wax statue]] than a human soldier.

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* The original ''{{Predator}}'' received a new Blu-Ray release around the time ''{{Predators}}'' came out in theaters. Consensus among viewers of the re-release is that the restoration has so much DNR, people restoring the movie for this release relied too heavily on DNR. A commonly used example shows that ArnoldSchwarzenegger looks more like a [[http://www.avpgalaxy.net/website/articles/predator-blu-ray-comparison/ wax statue]] than a human soldier.
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* The original ''{{Predator}}'' received a new Blu-Ray release around the time ''{{Predators}}'' came out in theaters. Consensus among viewers of the re-release is that the restoration has so much DNR, ArnoldSchwarzenegger looks more like a [[http://www.avpgalaxy.net/website/articles/predator-blu-ray-comparison/ wax statue]] than a human soldier.
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** I don't know about mild really, the whole "remastered" thing is quite bad to be honest. From the obviously low budget, meaning many of the replacement CGI actually looks worse than the original models and effects, to some quite bizarre decisions of what to remove, and some bizarre additions (such as the CGI scutter, and the sound effect of Rimmer crashing into pots and pans in the first episode) just make the whole remastered venture a complete mess and joke. if they had to do it, they should at least have waiting until technology let them do it properly, and not make just bad decisions on what to change.

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** I don't know about mild really, the whole "remastered" thing is quite bad to be honest. From the obviously low budget, meaning many of the replacement CGI actually looks worse than the original models and effects, to some quite bizarre decisions of what to remove, and some bizarre additions (such as the CGI scutter, and the sound effect of Rimmer crashing into pots and pans in the first episode) just make the whole remastered venture a complete mess and joke. if If they had to do it, they should at least have waiting waited until technology let them do it properly, and not make just bad such poor decisions on what to change.
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** I don't know about mild really, the whole "remastered" thing is quite bad to be honest. From the obviously low budget, meaning many of the replacement CGI actually looks worse than the original models and effects, to some quite bizarre decisions of what to remove, and some bizarre additions (such as the CGI scutter, and the sound effect of Rimmer crashing into pots and pans in the first episode) just make the whole remastered venture a complete mess and joke. if they had to do it, they should at least have waiting until technology let them do it properly, and not make just bad decisions on what to change.
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* StarWars has this in spades.

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Music is not exempt. With today's popular music lacking on dynamic range even outside of radio (stonewalling), remasterings of old classic pop music may be adjusted to be at equal volume to new pop music, losing the original dynamic range. The result sounds bland and has less information than the original.

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Music is not exempt. With today's popular music lacking on dynamic range even outside of radio (stonewalling), remasterings of old classic pop music may be adjusted to be at equal volume to new pop music, losing the original dynamic range. The result sounds bland and has less information than the original.
original. We have a separate page for that: RecordOfLoudnessWar.
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** Arguably, the digital destruction of his own work may be a big part of the reason John K. got on this soapbox in the first place.
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* Generally, any show featuring music most likely taken from an old 78 RPM record (such as anything from the History Channel about the 1920s) might have gone overboard with the noise reduction on the music. If a 80-year-old performance sounds like it was recorded in the past 30 years, chances are half the band has been erased from the recording.
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* The Blu-Ray release of ''{{Thunderbirds}}'' cropped the episodes into widescreen.
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* The recent DVD and Blu-Ray release of Max Fleischer's Gulliver's Travels--it was "restored" by ''cropping the footage into widescreen'', and using a deplorable, blurry transfer! The 60th Anniversary Winstar DVD release uses a much, much better transfer, thankfully.

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* The recent DVD and Blu-Ray release of Max Fleischer's Gulliver's Travels--it MaxFleischersGulliversTravels--it was "restored" by ''cropping the footage into widescreen'', and using a deplorable, blurry transfer! The 60th Anniversary Winstar DVD release uses a much, much better transfer, thankfully.
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Y'see, digital restoration is an expensive, time consuming process. It takes a long time, it requires careful attention and care, [[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment and did we mention it was expensive?]]

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Y'see, digital restoration is an expensive, time consuming process. It is [[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment expensive]], takes a long time, it requires careful attention and care, [[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment [[RuleOfThree and did we mention it was expensive?]]
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Music is not exempt. With today's popular music lacking on dynamic range even outside of radio (stonewalling), remasterings of old classic pop music may be adjusted to be at equal volume to new pop music, losing the original dynamic range. The result sounds bland and has less information than the original.
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* Happy about your LooneyTunes [[LimitedSpecialCollectorsUltimateEdition Golden Collection sets]] and [[ClassicDisneyShorts Walt Disney Treasures]] stuff, as well as Disney's restorations of their films? If you're a hardcore animation fan, you probably aren't. The short collections by both studios frequently abuse the infamous DVNR process (Digital Video Noise Reduction, for the unenglightened) which either thins out or erases lines of artwork, and oversaturates the colors to the point where they lose their original contrast and/or start bleeding into each other. And while Disney's films do not use the DVNR process, they do have many noticable problems-{{Bambi}} in particular has had it's colors greatly increased, which destroys much of the original color contrasts, and if one looks carefully enough, you can actually see ''strobing'' in the animation of the "restored" version.

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* Happy about your LooneyTunes [[LimitedSpecialCollectorsUltimateEdition Golden Collection sets]] and [[ClassicDisneyShorts Walt Disney Treasures]] stuff, as well as Disney's restorations of their films? If you're a hardcore animation fan, you probably aren't. The short collections by both studios frequently abuse the infamous DVNR process (Digital Video Noise Reduction, for the unenglightened) which either thins out or erases lines of artwork, and oversaturates the colors to the point where they lose their original contrast and/or start bleeding into each other. And while Disney's films do not use the DVNR process, they do have many noticable problems-{{Bambi}} in particular has had it's colors greatly increased, which destroys much of the original color contrasts, and if one looks carefully enough, you can actually see ''strobing'' in the animation of the "restored" version. version.
** The Looney Tunes sets have a lot of issues with line thinning, and the colors are ''way'' too saturated. The few shorts that seemed to remotely escape this are "Translyvania 6-5000" and "Whats Opera Doc?" (and the latter still suffers from line thinning and horribly compressed sound).
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Also see ExecutiveMeddling and TheyJustDidntCare.

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Also see ExecutiveMeddling and TheyJustDidntCare.
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* The recent DVD and Blu-Ray release of Max Fleischer's Gulliver's Travels--it was "restored" by ''cropping the footage into widescreen'', and using a deplorable, blurry transfer! The 60th Anniversary Winstar DVD release uses a much, much better transfer, thankfully.
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TropeNamer is this article from John Kricfalusi's Blog (to the unenlightened, he's the creator of TheRenAndStimpyShow and is notorious for his [[SmallNameBigEgo big ego]]) , which goes into how the so-called "Restorations" of old cartoons are actually ruining them, rather than making them better. [[http://johnkstuff.blogspot.com/search/label/digital%20destruction]]

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TropeNamer is this article from John Kricfalusi's Blog (to the unenlightened, he's the creator of TheRenAndStimpyShow and is notorious for his [[SmallNameBigEgo big ego]]) TheRenAndStimpyShow) , which goes into how the so-called "Restorations" of old cartoons are actually ruining them, rather than making them better. [[http://johnkstuff.blogspot.com/search/label/digital%20destruction]]
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* Also, even John K apparently couldn't avoid DVNR completely with the DVD release of RenAndStimpy--there is some noticable line thinning and art erasing in bits of the episodes.
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* Curiously, in the 2009 DVD released of Disney's Pinocchio, Jiminy's line "Look out, Pinoc!" from the end of the "Give a Little Whistle" song has been edited out. Not an atrocity by any means, but anyone who was seen earlier prints of the film will take notice of this.

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* Curiously, in the 2009 DVD released release of Disney's Pinocchio, Jiminy's line "Look out, Pinoc!" from the end of the "Give a Little Whistle" song has been edited out. Not an atrocity by any means, but anyone who was seen earlier prints of the film will take notice of this.
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** On a side note, the Tex Avery's Droopy DVD has some DVNR damage in four of the shorts, and it's only truly noticable in two of them--although the collection shuns this trope for the most part with the other shorts.

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* The WoodyWoodpecker collections (the two official sets, anyways) got a pretty nasty case of DVNR treatment. The unofficial Columbia House mail order DVD sets use the unaltered prints, however.

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* The WoodyWoodpecker collections (the two official sets, anyways) got a pretty very nasty case of DVNR treatment. treatment--the ones that get hit the worst by it are sadly the best shorts-the ones directed by Dick Lundy. Curiously, the earlier, sloppier shorts were considerably less ravaged. The unofficial Columbia House mail order DVD sets use the unaltered prints, however.however.
* A stunning aversion of this trope would be the first official Popeye the Sailor DVD set, almost completely averting this trope. Yes, ''almost''--if one looks very carefully in certain bits of the shorts, there is some very mild line thinning and or erasing that you would usually need to purposely look for in order to spot. And as John K pointed out in his blog, the color specials have had some bizarre altering--"Popeye Meets Sindbad" has had the pink turned up considerably, and while "Popeye Meets Ali Baba" is very close to actual 1930's colors, the purple bits in the cave have been pulled up.
* One particularly notorious example of Digital Destruction would be the infamous Betty Boop: The Definitive Collection series of VHS tapes. One only needs sit through one tape to tell that TheyJustDidntCare-- In ''every single short'', there is blatantly obvious, horrendous line thinning and erasing--this is Digital Destruction at its apitimy, and its enough to make a grown man cry--especially when you consider this is the only official home video releases of all of the Betty Boop shorts! Oddly, the Laserdisc version of The Definitive Collection has no such DVNR damage, with good restorations.
* Another infamous case of DVNR would be the Eastern-Only DVD release of "The Complete Tex Avery"--almost all of the shorts have been ravaged with horrible line thinning and erasing, almost making one wonder if the price of this import only set is worth it, especially when it costs more than just getting a laserdisc player and a laserdisc copy of the released in US, un-DVNRed "Complete Tex Avery" set.

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* The WoodyWoodpecker collections (the two official sets, anyways) got a pretty nasty case of DVNR treatment. The unofficial Columbia House mail order DVD sets use the unaltered prints, however.
* This article here )which is also linked at the top of this page) goes more into use of DVNR on cartoons both old and new: [[http://www.awn.com/mag/issue3.12/3.12pages/amididvnr.php3]]

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* The WoodyWoodpecker collections (the two official sets, anyways) got a pretty nasty case of DVNR treatment. The unofficial Columbia House mail order DVD sets use the unaltered prints, however. \n* This article here )which is also linked at the top of this page) goes more into use of DVNR on cartoons both old and new: [[http://www.awn.com/mag/issue3.12/3.12pages/amididvnr.php3]]
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* A related phenomenon in the comic book industry was Theakstonization. To do reprints of pre-computer comics, you want the original black-n-white line art (so you can recolor using modern techniques). For many old comics, that art no longer exists -- the only thing available is the actual comics. Therefore, you have to copy one of the comics and remove the color. Prior to the 90s, the only economic way of doing this was to cut the pages out of an original comic, and bleach the color out, thus producing black-n-white art. Unlike Digital Destruction, this ''actually destroyed the originals.'' This process was called Theakstonization, and apparently could reduce grown men to tears.
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* The DVD release of ''AnAmericanTail'' was horribly tampered with, as is discussed on [[http://donbluthanimation.com/forum/showthread.php?t=991 this forum]]. Background music and sound effects were changed or added, new voice-overs were inserted, and the orphans who bully Fievel near the end had their voices re-dubbed for unknown reasons.

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