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** [[spoiler:Rather subverted, as in the Mythos of the Universe in question, Humans are considered EQUAL in threat and relative power level to the Angels in question. Since Humans ARE Cthulhu then it's not that surprisingly they can scam the Angels. Afterall, Humans can be seen as an Angel of Knowledge...]]

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** [[spoiler:Rather subverted, as in the Mythos of the Universe in question, Humans are considered EQUAL in threat and relative power level to the Angels in question. Since [[HumansAreCthulhu Humans ARE Cthulhu Cthulhu]] then it's not not surprising that surprisingly they can scam the Angels. Afterall, Humans can After all, in [[NeonGenesisEvangelion NGE]] Humanity [[WMG/NeonGenesisEvangelion could be seen described as an the Angel of Knowledge...Knowledge]]...]]
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[[caption-width:360:I am Tzeentch, Lord of Change, Changer of the Ways, Master of Destinies. No mere mortal can... what is that pawn doing there?!]]

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[[caption-width:360:I am Tzeentch, Lord of Change, Changer of the Ways, Master of Destinies. No mere mortal can... what is that pawn [[ChessWithDeath pawn]] doing there?!]]
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* The Title Image can be attributed to a plausibly exploitable rule in Warhammer40K that may be interpreted so that a certain Creed ''can hide heavy equipment in ridiculously implausible locations'' due to his Tactical Genius. Such as heavy tanks behind a light post. Or heavy infantry in ''the enemy leader's bathroom''.

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* The Title Image can be attributed to a plausibly exploitable rule in Warhammer40K that may be interpreted so that a certain Creed [[MaryTzu Creed]] ''can hide heavy equipment in ridiculously implausible locations'' due to his Tactical Genius. Such as heavy tanks behind a light post. Or heavy infantry in ''the enemy leader's bathroom''.

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* ''{{Gargoyles}}:'' [[XanatosPlannedThisIndex Xanatos]] (of course) did that to [[TricksterGod Puck]], when he chose Owen Burnett, instead of a wish, forcing Puck to play human for the rest of Xanatos' life. [[hottip:*: Not that Puck/Owen has any problem with this.]]

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* ''{{Gargoyles}}:'' [[XanatosPlannedThisIndex Xanatos]] (of course) did that this to [[TricksterGod Puck]], when he chose Owen Burnett, instead of a wish, forcing Puck to play human for the rest of Xanatos' life. [[hottip:*: Not that Puck/Owen has any problem with this.]]]]
** Xanatos' plan with Thailog [[GoneHorriblyRight goes horribly right]] when Thailog successfully scams him in a complex "Macchiavellian" scheme that Sevarius was sure was Xanatos' idea!
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* Mai of ''AvatarTheLastAirbender is the first person -- possibly ''ever'' -- to fool the [[MagnificentBastard Magnificent]] [[ManipulativeBastard Manipulative Bitch]] Azula (enough to [[spoiler:send her into a VillainousBreakdown]]) because EvilCannotComprehendGood.

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* Mai of ''AvatarTheLastAirbender ''AvatarTheLastAirbender'' is the first person -- possibly ''ever'' -- to fool the [[MagnificentBastard Magnificent]] [[ManipulativeBastard Manipulative Bitch]] Azula (enough to [[spoiler:send her into a VillainousBreakdown]]) because EvilCannotComprehendGood.

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* In LordOfTheRings: Sauron the [[TheChessmaster chess GRANDmaster]] of Middle Earth was outwitted by the XanatosGambit directing him away from Frodo. It helped that EvilCannotComprehendGood.

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* In LordOfTheRings: ''LordOfTheRings'': Sauron the [[TheChessmaster chess GRANDmaster]] of Middle Earth was outwitted by the XanatosGambit directing him away from Frodo. It helped that EvilCannotComprehendGood.




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* Lyra successfully lying to and tricking the usurper king of the Armored Bears is seen as this ''in universe'' in ''[[HisDarkMaterials Northern Lights]]''.



* ''{{Gargoyles}}:'' [[XanatosPlannedThisIndex Xanatos]] (of course) did that to [[TricksterGod Puck]], when he chose Owen Burnett, instead of a wish, forcing Puck to play human for the rest of Xanatos' life.
** Of course, Puck himself seems impressed that Xanatos chose Owen instead of, say, immortality, and overall is quite content with his lot. It's also worth noting that he offered Xanatos the option of choosing Owen deliberately, more to see what he would do than anything else. And it's said explicitly that Puck only stays because he was impressed and amused by the choice.
*** Puck pretty much shot himself in the foot with that one; why did he think a MagnificentBastard like Xanatos would even consider taking a wish from a LiteralGenie when he could have an AlmightyJanitor as his [[HappinessInSlavery 100% loyal servant]] for ''life''?
*** Puck seems to enjoy a chance to try PlayingAgainstType as Owen. As he said himself: "The Puck has played many roles, but never before the StraightMan."
**** This troper always got the impression that Puck wanted Xanatos to choose Owen. That way, Puck wouldn't be required to return to Avalon for Oberon's Gathering and could remain in the mortal world doing what he did best...causing mischief. He didn't seem terribly broken up when Oberon and Titania exile him from Avalon, after all.
**** Well, if Xanatos becomes immortal without the help of Puck, he gets Owen eternally.
* I believe the defeat of the Robot Devil in {{Futurama}} should be considered partly this, and partly DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu.
* In {{Metalocalypse}}, the boys encounter the Devil (well, the Blues Devil) and sell their souls to him for Blues talent. Except they negotiate it all the way down to little more than a $5 Hot Topic giftcard.
* "You wanted to be a genie, and you got it... and everything that goes with it. Phenomenal cosmic powers. Itty-bitty living space."

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* ''{{Gargoyles}}:'' [[XanatosPlannedThisIndex Xanatos]] (of course) did that to [[TricksterGod Puck]], when he chose Owen Burnett, instead of a wish, forcing Puck to play human for the rest of Xanatos' life.
** Of course, Puck himself seems impressed
life. [[hottip:*: Not that Xanatos chose Owen instead of, say, immortality, and overall is quite content Puck/Owen has any problem with his lot. It's also worth noting that he offered Xanatos the option of choosing Owen deliberately, more to see what he would do than anything else. And it's said explicitly that Puck only stays because he was impressed and amused by the choice.
*** Puck pretty much shot himself in the foot with that one; why did he think a MagnificentBastard like Xanatos would even consider taking a wish from a LiteralGenie when he could have an AlmightyJanitor as his [[HappinessInSlavery 100% loyal servant]] for ''life''?
*** Puck seems to enjoy a chance to try PlayingAgainstType as Owen. As he said himself: "The Puck has played many roles, but never before the StraightMan."
**** This troper always got the impression that Puck wanted Xanatos to choose Owen. That way, Puck wouldn't be required to return to Avalon for Oberon's Gathering and could remain in the mortal world doing what he did best...causing mischief. He didn't seem terribly broken up when Oberon and Titania exile him from Avalon, after all.
**** Well, if Xanatos becomes immortal without the help of Puck, he gets Owen eternally.
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* I believe the The defeat of the Robot Devil in {{Futurama}} ''{{Futurama}}'' should be considered partly this, and partly DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu.
* In {{Metalocalypse}}, ''{{Metalocalypse}}'', the boys encounter the Devil (well, the Blues Devil) and sell their souls to him for Blues talent. Except they negotiate it all the way down to little more than a $5 Hot Topic giftcard.
* "You wanted {{Aladdin}}'s CrowningMomentOfAwesome:
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to be a genie, and you genie? You got it... and everything that goes with it. it! Phenomenal cosmic powers. Itty-bitty living space."
* Mai of ''AvatarTheLastAirbender is the first person -- possibly ''ever'' -- to fool the [[MagnificentBastard Magnificent]] [[ManipulativeBastard Manipulative Bitch]] Azula (enough to [[spoiler:send her into a VillainousBreakdown]]) because EvilCannotComprehendGood.

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** On the other hand, because [[ViewersAreGeniuses viewers generally aren't geniuses]] they tend to have SmallReferencePools. Whilst Fermat's Theorem is quite famous, many other complex mathematical questions are not. Some are sufficiently esoteric that even establishing whether they have a definite answer let alone working out what the answer would be might be impossible. Asking the Devil to prove or disprove P=NP might be a good start, but there are still things like the Millenium Prize problems which may be more than fiendishly difficult.
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**** Well, if Xanatos becomes immortal without the help of Puck, he gets Owen eternally.
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* In ''{{Homestuck}}'', Terezi [[spoiler: pulls this on the supernatural Doc Scratch in order to bait him into enacting her revenge on Vriska]]. Nobody out-manipulates Terezi. She is simply the best there is.

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* In ''{{Homestuck}}'', Terezi [[spoiler: pulls this on the supernatural Doc Scratch in order to bait him into enacting her revenge on Vriska]]. Nobody out-manipulates Terezi. [[RunningGag She is simply the best there is.
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* John Constantine from ''{{Hellblazer}}'' is a master of this trope. In what's possibly his CrowningMomentOfAwesome, he sells his soul to the three most powerful demons in Hell at once, which would force them into a war with each other, leaving them no choice but to cure his terminal lung cancer and keep him alive. And then he [[DidYouJustFlipOffCthulhu flips them off]].
** Why don't they just kill him, and keep him trapped for having the insolence to try and play them against each other?
*** Because by the laws of Hell, ''someone'' has to claim him, and since each of the Fallen has a claim to his soul, just giving it up to one of the other would be a sign of weakness. And if they actually went to war with each other over it, Heaven would take advantage of the chaos and invade. Mind you, this whole thing backfires when the First of the Fallen just decides to kill his fellow rulers and come after Constantine...

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* John Constantine from ''{{Hellblazer}}'' is a master of this trope. In what's possibly his CrowningMomentOfAwesome, he sells his soul to the three most powerful demons in Hell at once, which would force them into a war with each other, leaving them no choice but to cure his terminal lung cancer and keep him alive. And then he [[DidYouJustFlipOffCthulhu flips them off]].
** Why don't they just kill him, and keep him trapped for having the insolence to try and play them against each other?
*** Because by the laws of Hell,
off]]. The logic being that if he dies ''someone'' has to claim him, and since each of the Fallen has a claim to his soul, just giving it up to one of the other would be a sign of weakness. And if they actually went to war with each other over it, Heaven would take advantage of the chaos and invade. Mind you, this whole thing backfires when the First of the Fallen just decides to kill his fellow rulers and come after Constantine...
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**[[spoiler:Rather subverted, as in the Mythos of the Universe in question, Humans are considered EQUAL in threat and relative power level to the Angels in question. Since Humans ARE Cthulhu then it's not that surprisingly they can scam the Angels. Afterall, Humans can be seen as an Angel of Knowledge...]]
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* In {{Fables}}, Jack Horner played poker with the Devil during the Revolutionary War. He cheated and won, keeping his soul and winning the Devil's BagOfHolding.

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* In {{Fables}}, Jack Horner played poker with the Devil during the Revolutionary Civil War. He cheated and won, keeping his soul and winning the Devil's BagOfHolding.
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* Happens to an extent in TheSilmarillion- specifically, the story of the Downfall of Numenor, where [[MagnificentBastard Sauron]] essentially manipulates [[{{God}} Eru Iluvatar]] into destroying the Numenorean empire for him. Also subverted in that Sauron only intended for [[CouncilOfAngels the Valar]] to get involved, and the amount of power Iluvatar was packing was enough to kill Sauron as well. Of course as anyone who's read TheLordOfTheRings could tell you, Sauron came BackFromTheDead, and at any rate it's impressive to make God into your XanatosSucker in a 'verse where God is both competent and good.

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* Happens to an extent in TheSilmarillion- specifically, the story of the Downfall of Numenor, where [[MagnificentBastard Sauron]] essentially manipulates [[{{God}} Eru Iluvatar]] into destroying the Numenorean empire for him. Also subverted in that Sauron only intended for [[CouncilOfAngels the Valar]] to get involved, and the amount of power Iluvatar was packing was enough to kill Sauron as well. Of course as anyone who's read TheLordOfTheRings could tell you, Sauron came BackFromTheDead, and at any rate it's impressive to make God into your XanatosSucker UnwittingPawn in a 'verse where God is both competent and good.
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* [[{{TheCharlieDanielsBand}} The Devil Went Down to Georgia...]]
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It's funny. We throuw around "Subverted" as if it meant "whatever I want it to", but an actual, almost textbook subversion isn't called one.


* Jonouchi of ''{{Yu-Gi-Oh}}'' survives a blow from the Egyptian god Ra during the Battle City semifinals, which, given the Dark Duel he is in with Yami Malik, is enough to kill an ordinary human, and yet still stands when Ra returns to the graveyard. [[spoiler:He manages to draw and summon Gearfried, and... [[YankTheDogsChain collapses from shock]]]], ultimately making this a [[AvertedTrope half-averted trope]].

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* Jonouchi of ''{{Yu-Gi-Oh}}'' survives a blow from the Egyptian god Ra during the Battle City semifinals, which, given the Dark Duel he is in with Yami Malik, is enough to kill an ordinary human, and yet still stands when Ra returns to the graveyard. [[spoiler:He manages to draw and summon Gearfried, and... [[YankTheDogsChain collapses from shock]]]], ultimately making this a [[AvertedTrope half-averted trope]].{{Subversion}}.
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* {{Wolverine}}, of all people, arguably outdoes them both in a WhatIf issue, "Newer Fantastic Four". Thanos is in possession of the [[CosmicKeystone Infinity Gauntlet]], with Mephisto as his advisor, and Wolverine outwits them both by manipulating Thanos' love of [[TheGrimReaper Death]] against him.
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* In HerculesTheLegendaryJourneys, Autocolyes, King of Thieves, once managed to steal Hermes's winged sandals right off of his feet.
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*"You wanted to be a genie, and you got it... and everything that goes with it. Phenomenal cosmic powers. Itty-bitty living space."
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** Then there's the precursor to the deal: John finds out his dying friend Brendan sold his soul to the First of the Fallen. Five minutes before Brendan's soul ends up in the First's clutches, John suggests they share a toast; Brendan's had this magical working going that turns an underground spring into pure stout. John and the First share a drink, then John reveals the spring was blessed by a saint, so technically, the base of what the First just drank was ''holy water''. And then the spell expires, and the First has a glassful of holy water in his gut, disrupting his body long enough for Brendan to slip away to Heaven.
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** Which makes it fitting when Superman defeats him by turning Batman into a MindVirus (the Joker's obsession with Batman keeps bringing him back and his fear when Superman points out he can't control it makes Batman ever larger and more ominous until the Joker is overwhelmed.)
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* Jonouchi of {{Yu-Gi-Oh}} survives a blow from the Egyptian god Ra during the Battle City semifinals, which, given the Dark Duel he is in with Yami Malik, is enough to kill an ordinary human, and yet still stands when Ra returns to the graveyard. [[spoiler:He manages to draw and summon Gearfried, and... [[YankTheDogsChain collapses from shock]]]], ultimately making this a [[AvertedTrope half-averted trope]].

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* Jonouchi of {{Yu-Gi-Oh}} ''{{Yu-Gi-Oh}}'' survives a blow from the Egyptian god Ra during the Battle City semifinals, which, given the Dark Duel he is in with Yami Malik, is enough to kill an ordinary human, and yet still stands when Ra returns to the graveyard. [[spoiler:He manages to draw and summon Gearfried, and... [[YankTheDogsChain collapses from shock]]]], ultimately making this a [[AvertedTrope half-averted trope]].
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* In ''Triumph and Torment'', DoctorDoom manages to trick Mephisto into doing what he wants.
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* In ''{{Watchmen}}'', [[spoiler:Veidt]]'s master plan involves the manipulation of pretty much the entire rest of the cast, up to and including Dr. Manhattan, an energy being of unimaginable power who can normally see the future as clearly as he can see the present. This is justified, as Veidt used [[{{Handwavium}} tachyons]] to block Manhattan's sight.

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* In ''{{Watchmen}}'', [[spoiler:Veidt]]'s master plan involves the manipulation of pretty much the entire rest of the cast, up to and including Dr. Manhattan, an energy being of unimaginable power who can normally see the future as clearly as he can see the present. This is justified, as Veidt [[spoiler:Veidt]] used [[{{Handwavium}} tachyons]] to block Manhattan's sight.
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* [[{{Disney/Aladdin}} Aladdin]] manages to trick his newfound genie servant into freeing him from a sealed cavern without making a wish by prodding the genie's ego, and gets away with. The second time, however, when Aladdin is drowning and couldn't reasonably wish for rescue, the genie just takes it for granted and does so.
* In the film version of ''{{Coraline}}'', the eponymous character does this to the Beldam; the demonic master of a pocket universe who needs to consume the souls of children to live. Frustrated with a boring life and uncaring parents, Coraline is enticed into the Beldam's world which appears as an ideal version of her own home and family. The kicker comes when [[spoiler:she is prevented from leaving and imprisoned when she refuses to give up her soul (by having buttons sewed onto her eyes, like all creatures in the Beldam's world) and her real parents are captured and held hostage by the Beldam to force Coraline to give in. Coraline makes a deal with the Beldam to play a game by betting she can find the souls of three previous children taken by the Beldam along with her parents. Knowing the Beldam won't concede if Coraline wins, she pretends to lose before stealing the key back to her own world and escaping with her parents to safety.]]

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* [[{{Disney/Aladdin}} Aladdin]] manages to trick his newfound genie servant into freeing him from a sealed cavern without making a wish by prodding the genie's ego, and gets away with.with it. The second time, however, when Aladdin is drowning and couldn't reasonably wish for rescue, the genie just takes it for granted and does so.
* In the film version of ''{{Coraline}}'', the eponymous character does this to the Beldam; Beldam, the demonic master of a pocket universe who needs to consume the souls of children to live. Frustrated with a boring life and uncaring parents, Coraline is enticed into the Beldam's world which appears as an ideal version of her own home and family. The kicker comes when [[spoiler:she is prevented from leaving and imprisoned when she refuses to give up her soul (by having buttons sewed onto her eyes, like all creatures in the Beldam's world) and her real parents are captured and held hostage by the Beldam to force Coraline to give in. Coraline makes a deal with the Beldam to play a game by betting she can find the souls of three previous children taken by the Beldam along with her parents. Knowing the Beldam won't concede if Coraline wins, she pretends to lose before stealing the key back to her own world and escaping with her parents to safety.]]
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* [[{{Disney/Aladdin}} Aladdin]] manages to trick his newfound genie servant into freeing him from a sealed cavern without making a wish by prodding the genie's ego, and gets away with. The second time, however, when Aladdin is drowning and couldn't reasonably wish for rescue, the genie just takes it for granted and does so.
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* ''[[ChangelingTheLost Changeling: the Lost]]'' features an [[PrestigeClass Entitlement]] known as the Legates of the Black Apple. When TheFairFolk come barging into the freehold, it's the job of the Legates to try and figure out what they want and how to get them to go away. Mind you, this doesn't necessary involve ''giving'' them exactly what they want, and negotiations can involve intimidation just as well as diplomacy. Mind you, being a member of the Entitlement is quite risky -- you don't want to know what the Gentry did to the guy who preferred to use intimidation tactics once they found out his [[WeaksauceWeakness frailty]].
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**** This troper always got the impression that Puck wanted Xanatos to choose Owen. That way, Puck wouldn't be required to return to Avalon for Oberon's Gathering and could remain in the mortal world doing what he did best...causing mischief. He didn't seem terribly broken up when Oberon and Titania exile him from Avalon, after all.
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* In {{Preacher}}, Cassidy pulls of a clever scam, which results in [[spoiler:him getting cured of his vampirism]] and [[spoiler:God getting killed]]. Yes, [[spoiler:that means the Christian God, who is essentially the BigBad of the series]].

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* In {{Preacher}}, Cassidy pulls of off a clever scam, scam which results in [[spoiler:him getting cured of his vampirism]] and [[spoiler:God getting killed]]. Yes, [[spoiler:that means the Christian God, who is essentially the BigBad of the series]].



* ''2000 AD'': Cassandra Anderson manages to make Satan ''blow himself up'' by forcing himself into a [[LogicBomb Douglas Adams-style self-contradiction]].

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* ''2000 AD'': ''[[{{ptitley5d4ry61}} 2000 AD]]'': Cassandra Anderson manages to make Satan ''blow himself up'' by forcing himself into a [[LogicBomb Douglas Adams-style self-contradiction]].



* In ''{{Watchmen}}'', [[spoiler:Veidt]]'s master plan involves the manipulation of pretty much the entire rest of the cast, up to and including Dr. Manhattan, an energy being of unimaginable power who can normally see the future as clearly as he can see the present. This is justified, as Veidt used [[Handwavium tachyons]] to block Manhattan's sight.

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* In ''{{Watchmen}}'', [[spoiler:Veidt]]'s master plan involves the manipulation of pretty much the entire rest of the cast, up to and including Dr. Manhattan, an energy being of unimaginable power who can normally see the future as clearly as he can see the present. This is justified, as Veidt used [[Handwavium [[{{Handwavium}} tachyons]] to block Manhattan's sight.



* In ''Emperor: Joker'', Mr. Mxyzptlk decides to give TheJoker 1% of his power to see what he would do with it, but Joker tricks him into giving ''99.99%''.

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* In ''Emperor: ''Emperor Joker'', Mr. Mxyzptlk decides to give TheJoker 1% of his power to see what he would do with it, but Joker tricks him into giving ''99.99%''.



* In LegendOfTheFiveRings, the big bad evil god, Fu Leng, fell to this at the hands of Naseru, who eventually became the Emperor. When Naseru and his siblings lead a BigDamnHeroes moment in an attack on Fu Leng's stronghold in the Shadowlands to prevent him from taking over the heavens, while his uber-powered brothers and sister were slaying abominations left and right, Naseru, being a courtier, walked up to Daigotsu, leader of Fu Leng's forces in the material world, and began talking to him. The resulting conversation allowed Naseru to trick Fu Leng into temporarily withdrawing his dependence on Daigotsu, which gave the other gods and dead heroes enough time to take him down and send him back to hell.

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* In LegendOfTheFiveRings, the big bad evil god, Fu Leng, fell to this at the hands of Naseru, who eventually became the Emperor. When Naseru and his siblings lead led a BigDamnHeroes moment in an attack on Fu Leng's stronghold in the Shadowlands to prevent him from taking over the heavens, while his uber-powered brothers and sister were slaying abominations left and right, Naseru, being a courtier, walked up to Daigotsu, leader of Fu Leng's forces in the material world, and began talking to him. The resulting conversation allowed Naseru to trick Fu Leng into temporarily withdrawing his dependence on Daigotsu, which gave the other gods and dead heroes enough time to take him down and send him back to hell.



* The Title Image can be attributed to a plausibly exploitable rule in Warhammer 40k that may be interpreted so that a certain Creed ''can hide heavy equipment in ridiculously implausible locations'' due to his Tactical Genius. Such as heavy tanks behind a light post. Or heavy infantry in ''the enemy leader's bathroom''.

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* The Title Image can be attributed to a plausibly exploitable rule in Warhammer 40k Warhammer40K that may be interpreted so that a certain Creed ''can hide heavy equipment in ridiculously implausible locations'' due to his Tactical Genius. Such as heavy tanks behind a light post. Or heavy infantry in ''the enemy leader's bathroom''.
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* ''NeonGenesisEvangelion'' executes this beautifully. The [[CosmicHorror Angels]] are coming to merge with [[EldritchAbomination Adam]] and wipe out humanity. However, [[OmniscientCouncilOfVagueness SEELE]] cloned Adam to [[OrganicTechnology make]] the [[HumongousMecha Evas]] and kill off the Angels so that they can [[AssimilationPlot merge with Adam themselves, elevating humanity into a God]]. [[ThirtyXanatosPileup At the same time]], [[MagnificentBastard Gendo]] is scheming to kill off the Angels then screw over SEELE by having [[TenchiSolution Rei]] merge with both Adam and [[CapturedSuperEntity Lilith]] so that he can [[WellIntentionedExtremist get his wife back]]. And the Angels are none-the-wiser...

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