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30th Apr '16 10:28:59 PM nombretomado
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* In the CaptainPlanetAndThePlaneteers AU/Reboot fic [[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/6434636/1/Heroes_For_Earth Heroes for Earth]], Wheeler gets upgraded into this role due to being the most social-savvy Planeteer; this is particularly interesting when he's talking with Gi who is very eco-savvy but social naive due to having been homeschooled by her parents.

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* In the CaptainPlanetAndThePlaneteers ''WesternAnimation/CaptainPlanetAndThePlaneteers'' AU/Reboot fic [[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/6434636/1/Heroes_For_Earth Heroes for Earth]], Wheeler gets upgraded into this role due to being the most social-savvy Planeteer; this is particularly interesting when he's talking with Gi who is very eco-savvy but social naive due to having been homeschooled by her parents.
19th Apr '16 11:16:24 PM TheShatterer
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Not to be confused with the movie ''Film/TheDevilsAdvocate'', which is about more a literal interpretation of this phrase.

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Not to be confused with the movie ''Film/TheDevilsAdvocate'', which is about more a literal interpretation of this phrase. If you're looking for a trope that's a more literal interpretation, it's probably MouthOfSauron.
24th Jan '16 1:35:15 PM SignSeeker7
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* The Milton Library Assistant aka Milton in ''VideoGame/TheTalosPrinciple''. He frequently questions the player's understanding of philosophy and morality and finds holes in their logic, and he encourages the player to question the nature of the godlike Elohim, who refers to Milton as [[Literature/BookOfGenesis "the serpent"]] spreading doubt. [[spoiler: Being a Devil's Advocate is in fact Milton's purpose within the simulation, testing the AIs independence and willingness to think for themselves]]. Appropriately, he shares a name with Creator/JohnMilton, who was himself [[Literature/ParadiseLost something of a literal Devil's Advocate]].
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20th Jan '16 10:27:50 AM Fireblood
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* As noted above, the Devil's Advocate is the name for a person who argues against the formal recognition of someone as a Saint by the Catholic Church (though it's officially called Promoter of the Faith, but that just doesn't sounds as cool). The job has been taken up on at least one occasion (Mother Theresa) by an outright atheist (Creator/ChristopherHitchens). Its abolition as an official office in 1983 has not coincidentally led to an exponential increase in people accepted for sainthood.
* In Jewish Law, when judging capital cases, if all 23 judges of the Beth Din produces an unanimous guilty verdict, then the accused is immediately declared "not guilty" and freed. The rationale being that there must be something wrong with the court if it cannot produce at least one devil's advocate to defend the accused.

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* As noted above, the Devil's Advocate is the name for a person who argues against the formal recognition of someone as a Saint by the Catholic Church (though it's officially called Promoter of the Faith, but that just doesn't sounds sound as cool). The job has been taken up on at least one occasion (Mother Theresa) by an outright atheist (Creator/ChristopherHitchens). Its abolition as an official office in 1983 has not coincidentally led to an exponential increase in people accepted for sainthood.
* In Jewish Law, when judging capital cases, if all 23 judges of the Beth Din produces an produce a unanimous guilty verdict, then the accused is immediately declared "not guilty" and freed. The rationale being that there must be something wrong with the court if it cannot produce at least one devil's advocate to defend the accused.
7th Dec '15 4:36:03 PM Hossmeister
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* In the ''Franchise/AceAttorney'' games, the rival prosecutors sometimes become this, rather than your true opponent. In [[VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorney the Phoenix Wright trilogy]], once he warms up to Phoenix, Edgeworth isn't acting as a prosecutor because he wants him to fail, but because he wants all the holes in the logic of the case to be filled satisfactorily; and in [[VisualNovel/ApolloJusticeAceAttorney Apollo's arc]], Klavier Gavin is always focused on finding the truth instead of getting a guilty verdict, being the only prosecutor in the series that had this as his goal from the beginning of his career.

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* In the ''Franchise/AceAttorney'' games, the rival prosecutors sometimes become this, rather than your true opponent. In [[VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorney the Phoenix Wright trilogy]], VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightTrilogy, once he warms up to Phoenix, Edgeworth isn't acting as a prosecutor because he wants him to fail, but because he wants all the holes in the logic of the case to be filled satisfactorily; and in [[VisualNovel/ApolloJusticeAceAttorney Apollo's arc]], Klavier Gavin is always focused on finding the truth instead of getting a guilty verdict, being the only prosecutor in the series that had this as his goal from the beginning of his career.
27th Oct '15 3:38:37 PM gemmabeta2
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* In Jewish Law, when judging capital cases, if all 23 judges of the Beth Din produces an unanimous guilty verdict, then the accused is immediately declared "not guilty and let go". The rationale being that there must be something wrong with the court if it cannot produce at least one devil's advocate to defend the accused.

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* In Jewish Law, when judging capital cases, if all 23 judges of the Beth Din produces an unanimous guilty verdict, then the accused is immediately declared "not guilty guilty" and let go".freed. The rationale being that there must be something wrong with the court if it cannot produce at least one devil's advocate to defend the accused.
27th Oct '15 3:38:08 PM gemmabeta2
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* In Jewish Law, when judging capital cases, if all 23 judges of the Beth Din produces an unanimous guilty verdict, then the accused is immediately declared "not guilty and let go". The rationale being that there must be something wrong with the court if it cannot produce at least one devil's advocate to defend the accused.
31st Aug '15 3:08:31 PM MechWarrior
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* In ''TheThrawnTrilogy'', Captain Pellaon acted as this trope to Grand Admiral Thrawn; in ''HandOfThrawn'', he commended his subordinate for doing the same.

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* In ''TheThrawnTrilogy'', ''Literature/TheThrawnTrilogy'', Captain Pellaon acted as this trope to Grand Admiral Thrawn; in ''HandOfThrawn'', ''Literature/HandOfThrawn'', he commended his subordinate for doing the same.



* In ''[[{{Deryni}} The Quest for Saint Camber]]'', Bishop Wolfram de Blanet acts as devil's advocate at the hearing establishing the legitimacy of Duncan [=McLain's=] brief marriage to Maryse [=MacArdry=].TheChurch hierarchy would be happy for Duncan to [[spoiler: have a legitimate heir so that he could]] resign his secular titles and lands, leaving him free to concentrate on his spiritual duties, but they also wish to avoid seeming to bend the rules for one of their own. Using an adversarial proceeding helps them avoid the appearance of favouritism.

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* In ''[[{{Deryni}} ''[[{{Literature/Deryni}} The Quest for Saint Camber]]'', Bishop Wolfram de Blanet acts as devil's advocate at the hearing establishing the legitimacy of Duncan [=McLain's=] brief marriage to Maryse [=MacArdry=].TheChurch hierarchy would be happy for Duncan to [[spoiler: have a legitimate heir so that he could]] resign his secular titles and lands, leaving him free to concentrate on his spiritual duties, but they also wish to avoid seeming to bend the rules for one of their own. Using an adversarial proceeding helps them avoid the appearance of favouritism.



* [[PlayingWithATrope Discussed]] (and sometimes used) in ''QuantumLeap'', between Sam and Al.

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* [[PlayingWithATrope Discussed]] (and sometimes used) in ''QuantumLeap'', ''Series/QuantumLeap'', between Sam and Al.



* In ''{{Exalted}}'', this is The Ebon Dragon's original [[PlanetOfHats Hat]], and it's obvious when you see his character sheet: all beings that exist ([[TheFairFolk and some that don't]]) ''always'' have Virtues, which color their actions and interactions with others. The Ebon Dragon (''nee'' The Dragon's Shadow) is defined by his lack of Virtues, making him an excellent {{foil}} to all the other entities. [[TheSacredDarkness If not for his darkness, Creation would suffer from endless ruinous light of the Holy Tyrant]]. TED used to be genuinely caring of Creation. The Exalts broke the Ebon Dragon by making him an actual being instead of just The Shadow of All Things, turning him from Devil's Advocate into [[NiceJobBreakingItHero just a plain devil.]]

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* In ''{{Exalted}}'', ''{{TabletopGame/Exalted}}'', this is The Ebon Dragon's original [[PlanetOfHats Hat]], and it's obvious when you see his character sheet: all beings that exist ([[TheFairFolk and some that don't]]) ''always'' have Virtues, which color their actions and interactions with others. The Ebon Dragon (''nee'' The Dragon's Shadow) is defined by his lack of Virtues, making him an excellent {{foil}} to all the other entities. [[TheSacredDarkness If not for his darkness, Creation would suffer from endless ruinous light of the Holy Tyrant]]. TED used to be genuinely caring of Creation. The Exalts broke the Ebon Dragon by making him an actual being instead of just The Shadow of All Things, turning him from Devil's Advocate into [[NiceJobBreakingItHero just a plain devil.]]



* Parodied on ''TheSimpsons''; Homer states that he's about to "play devil's advocate" in regards to helping Krusty... it then cuts to him playing a pinball game called "Devil's Advocate".

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* Parodied on ''TheSimpsons''; ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons''; Homer states that he's about to "play devil's advocate" in regards to helping Krusty... it then cuts to him playing a pinball game called "Devil's Advocate".
31st Aug '15 3:07:33 PM MechWarrior
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16th Aug '15 1:09:37 PM DarkHunter
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* In ''Literature/WorldWarZ'', this is stated to be the reason Israel was able to survive the zombie outbreak more or less intact as a nation. After the Yom-Kippur War, the Israelis instituted a system wherein at least one person ''must'' take a threat seriously and dig deeper into the evidence for or against it, no matter how ridiculous it sounded. Thus, while all the world's nations were going "A zombie plague? That's stupid!", Israel's government took a harder look at the evidence, saw the truth of the matter, and took steps to defend the nation ''before'' everything went to hell.
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