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17th Aug '16 2:42:25 AM VVK
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* ''Webcomic/{{xkcd}}'' invokes this trope, but does not actually use it [[http://xkcd.com/164/ here]]. The trope itself is used without NameDrop in [[http://xkcd.com/106/ the Wright Brothers example]]. Used and namedropped [[http://xkcd.com/1432/ here]], with a character getting LiteralMinded about it [[{{Troll}} just to be annoying]].

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* ''Webcomic/{{xkcd}}'' invokes this trope, but does not actually use it [[http://xkcd.com/164/ here]]. The trope itself is used without NameDrop in [[http://xkcd.com/106/ the Wright Brothers example]]. Used and namedropped [[http://xkcd.com/1432/ here]], with a character getting LiteralMinded about it to prove it's bad practice or maybe [[{{Troll}} just to be annoying]].
5th Aug '16 8:35:32 AM WM-R
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* During the [[UsefulNotes/ThreeKingdomsShuWeiWu Three Kingdoms]], the Jin empire prepared for an invasion of the rival state of Wu (the last of the titular Three Kingdoms, as Shu was destroyed in 263/264 and Jin itself was the successor state to Wei). The high official Jia Chong opposed the invasion, believing that it was too risky and would take too many resources to pull off. When the Jin Emperor Sima Yan commanded the invasion begin in 279, Jia Chong was chosen to handle the logistics of the operation, and despite his personal opposition he successfully carried out his duties, leading to Jin's complete victory over Wu and Wu's destruction. His opposition may actually have helped him in his work, as he was so focused on the ways the invasion could fail that there was no problem he hadn't accounted for.
27th Jul '16 5:46:54 AM Kakai
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* In ''ComicBook/WhiteSand'', when Kenton tries to figure out how the plot of poisoning the Sand Masters was enacted, Aarik helps him by pointing out holes in his logic and offering opposing viewpoint whenever necessary.
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30th Apr '16 10:28:59 PM nombretomado
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* In the CaptainPlanetAndThePlaneteers AU/Reboot fic [[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/6434636/1/Heroes_For_Earth Heroes for Earth]], Wheeler gets upgraded into this role due to being the most social-savvy Planeteer; this is particularly interesting when he's talking with Gi who is very eco-savvy but social naive due to having been homeschooled by her parents.

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* In the CaptainPlanetAndThePlaneteers ''WesternAnimation/CaptainPlanetAndThePlaneteers'' AU/Reboot fic [[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/6434636/1/Heroes_For_Earth Heroes for Earth]], Wheeler gets upgraded into this role due to being the most social-savvy Planeteer; this is particularly interesting when he's talking with Gi who is very eco-savvy but social naive due to having been homeschooled by her parents.
19th Apr '16 11:16:24 PM TheShatterer
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Not to be confused with the movie ''Film/TheDevilsAdvocate'', which is about more a literal interpretation of this phrase.

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Not to be confused with the movie ''Film/TheDevilsAdvocate'', which is about more a literal interpretation of this phrase. If you're looking for a trope that's a more literal interpretation, it's probably MouthOfSauron.
24th Jan '16 1:35:15 PM SignSeeker7
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* The Milton Library Assistant aka Milton in ''VideoGame/TheTalosPrinciple''. He frequently questions the player's understanding of philosophy and morality and finds holes in their logic, and he encourages the player to question the nature of the godlike Elohim, who refers to Milton as [[Literature/BookOfGenesis "the serpent"]] spreading doubt. [[spoiler: Being a Devil's Advocate is in fact Milton's purpose within the simulation, testing the AIs independence and willingness to think for themselves]]. Appropriately, he shares a name with Creator/JohnMilton, who was himself [[Literature/ParadiseLost something of a literal Devil's Advocate]].
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20th Jan '16 10:27:50 AM Fireblood
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* As noted above, the Devil's Advocate is the name for a person who argues against the formal recognition of someone as a Saint by the Catholic Church (though it's officially called Promoter of the Faith, but that just doesn't sounds as cool). The job has been taken up on at least one occasion (Mother Theresa) by an outright atheist (Creator/ChristopherHitchens). Its abolition as an official office in 1983 has not coincidentally led to an exponential increase in people accepted for sainthood.
* In Jewish Law, when judging capital cases, if all 23 judges of the Beth Din produces an unanimous guilty verdict, then the accused is immediately declared "not guilty" and freed. The rationale being that there must be something wrong with the court if it cannot produce at least one devil's advocate to defend the accused.

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* As noted above, the Devil's Advocate is the name for a person who argues against the formal recognition of someone as a Saint by the Catholic Church (though it's officially called Promoter of the Faith, but that just doesn't sounds sound as cool). The job has been taken up on at least one occasion (Mother Theresa) by an outright atheist (Creator/ChristopherHitchens). Its abolition as an official office in 1983 has not coincidentally led to an exponential increase in people accepted for sainthood.
* In Jewish Law, when judging capital cases, if all 23 judges of the Beth Din produces an produce a unanimous guilty verdict, then the accused is immediately declared "not guilty" and freed. The rationale being that there must be something wrong with the court if it cannot produce at least one devil's advocate to defend the accused.
7th Dec '15 4:36:03 PM Hossmeister
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* In the ''Franchise/AceAttorney'' games, the rival prosecutors sometimes become this, rather than your true opponent. In [[VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorney the Phoenix Wright trilogy]], once he warms up to Phoenix, Edgeworth isn't acting as a prosecutor because he wants him to fail, but because he wants all the holes in the logic of the case to be filled satisfactorily; and in [[VisualNovel/ApolloJusticeAceAttorney Apollo's arc]], Klavier Gavin is always focused on finding the truth instead of getting a guilty verdict, being the only prosecutor in the series that had this as his goal from the beginning of his career.

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* In the ''Franchise/AceAttorney'' games, the rival prosecutors sometimes become this, rather than your true opponent. In [[VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorney the Phoenix Wright trilogy]], VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightTrilogy, once he warms up to Phoenix, Edgeworth isn't acting as a prosecutor because he wants him to fail, but because he wants all the holes in the logic of the case to be filled satisfactorily; and in [[VisualNovel/ApolloJusticeAceAttorney Apollo's arc]], Klavier Gavin is always focused on finding the truth instead of getting a guilty verdict, being the only prosecutor in the series that had this as his goal from the beginning of his career.
27th Oct '15 3:38:37 PM gemmabeta2
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* In Jewish Law, when judging capital cases, if all 23 judges of the Beth Din produces an unanimous guilty verdict, then the accused is immediately declared "not guilty and let go". The rationale being that there must be something wrong with the court if it cannot produce at least one devil's advocate to defend the accused.

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* In Jewish Law, when judging capital cases, if all 23 judges of the Beth Din produces an unanimous guilty verdict, then the accused is immediately declared "not guilty guilty" and let go".freed. The rationale being that there must be something wrong with the court if it cannot produce at least one devil's advocate to defend the accused.
27th Oct '15 3:38:08 PM gemmabeta2
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* In Jewish Law, when judging capital cases, if all 23 judges of the Beth Din produces an unanimous guilty verdict, then the accused is immediately declared "not guilty and let go". The rationale being that there must be something wrong with the court if it cannot produce at least one devil's advocate to defend the accused.
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