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* After the 1937 UsefulNotes/{{Paris}} World's Fair pavilion of the [[UsefulNotes/SovietRussiaUkraineAndSoOn Soviet Union]], the sculpture ''Art/WorkerAndKolkhozWoman'' was installed in UsefulNotes/{{Moscow}} in its present location, but without the original building-pedestal, which artist Vera Mukhina considered integral to the monument. She even described the new pedestal as a 'stump'. It stood here until it was dismantled in 2003 for restoration work. It was then fully restored in 2009, with a new pedestal more resembling the original World's Fair pavilion.
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* Parenting blogger Jenna Karvunidis, who created (or at least popularized) gender-reveal parties, has come to regret starting the trend. Karvunidis threw one in 2008 because she had miscarriages in the past, so she wanted to celebrate her first pregnancy happening long enough to have the fetus' sex determined. She realized it's unfair to a child to place so much emphasis on their biological sex instead of letting them develop as individuals when her eldest daughter (for whom Karvunidis threw the first of these parties and blogged about it) started exhibiting tomboyish traits like a preference for suits and later came out as gender non-conforming. Not helping matters are the increasingly over-the-top acts parents have decided to take on to celebrate the sex of their offspring, including pyrotechnic displays that have caused [[https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/arizona-breaking/2018/11/26/sawmill-fire-explosion-caught-camera-during-gender-reveal-party/2121802002/ two]] [[https://www.desertsun.com/story/news/environment/wildfires/2020/09/06/el-dorado-fire-grows-2-727-acres-containment-remains-5/5734173002/ wildfires]] and the death of at least one firefighter. All Karvunidis ever did was bake a pink cake. She ''never'' suggested the more outlandish reveals people have done, causing her to put this line in her Twitter profile so that it's the first thing everyone sees on it:

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* Parenting blogger Jenna Karvunidis, who created (or at least popularized) gender-reveal parties, has come to regret starting the trend.[[https://www.today.com/parents/mom-who-popularized-gender-reveals-regrets-it-now-t159796 regretted popularizing them]]. Karvunidis threw one in 2008 because she had miscarriages in the past, so she wanted to celebrate her first pregnancy happening long enough to have the fetus' sex determined. She realized it's unfair to a child to place so much emphasis on their biological sex instead of letting them develop as individuals when her eldest daughter (for whom Karvunidis threw the first of these parties and blogged about it) started exhibiting tomboyish traits like a preference for suits and later came out as gender non-conforming. Not helping matters are the increasingly over-the-top acts parents have decided to take on to celebrate the sex of their offspring, including pyrotechnic displays that have caused [[https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/arizona-breaking/2018/11/26/sawmill-fire-explosion-caught-camera-during-gender-reveal-party/2121802002/ two]] [[https://www.desertsun.com/story/news/environment/wildfires/2020/09/06/el-dorado-fire-grows-2-727-acres-containment-remains-5/5734173002/ wildfires]] and the death of at least one firefighter. All Karvunidis ever did was bake cut a cake filled with pink cake.icing. She ''never'' suggested the more outlandish reveals people have done, causing her to put this line in her Twitter profile so that it's the first thing everyone sees on it:
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* Parenting blogger Jenna Karvunidis, who created (or at least popularized) gender-reveal parties, has come to regret starting the trend. Karvunidis realized it's unfair to a child to place so much emphasis on their biological sex instead of letting them develop as individuals when her eldest daughter (for whom Karvunidis threw the first of these parties and blogged about it) started exhibiting tomboyish traits like a preference for suits and later came out as gender non-conforming. Not helping matters are the increasingly over-the-top acts parents have decided to take on to celebrate the sex of their offspring, including pyrotechnic displays that have caused [[https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/arizona-breaking/2018/11/26/sawmill-fire-explosion-caught-camera-during-gender-reveal-party/2121802002/ two]] [[https://www.desertsun.com/story/news/environment/wildfires/2020/09/06/el-dorado-fire-grows-2-727-acres-containment-remains-5/5734173002/ wildfires]] and the death of at least one firefighter. All Karvunidis ever did was bake a pink cake. In fact, Karvunidas threw the party in 2008 because she had miscarriages in the past, so she wanted to celebrate her first pregnancy happening long enough to have the fetus' sex determined. She ''never'' suggested the more outlandish reveals people have done, causing her to put this line in her Twitter profile so that it's the first thing everyone sees on it:

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* Parenting blogger Jenna Karvunidis, who created (or at least popularized) gender-reveal parties, has come to regret starting the trend. Karvunidis threw one in 2008 because she had miscarriages in the past, so she wanted to celebrate her first pregnancy happening long enough to have the fetus' sex determined. She realized it's unfair to a child to place so much emphasis on their biological sex instead of letting them develop as individuals when her eldest daughter (for whom Karvunidis threw the first of these parties and blogged about it) started exhibiting tomboyish traits like a preference for suits and later came out as gender non-conforming. Not helping matters are the increasingly over-the-top acts parents have decided to take on to celebrate the sex of their offspring, including pyrotechnic displays that have caused [[https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/arizona-breaking/2018/11/26/sawmill-fire-explosion-caught-camera-during-gender-reveal-party/2121802002/ two]] [[https://www.desertsun.com/story/news/environment/wildfires/2020/09/06/el-dorado-fire-grows-2-727-acres-containment-remains-5/5734173002/ wildfires]] and the death of at least one firefighter. All Karvunidis ever did was bake a pink cake. In fact, Karvunidas threw the party in 2008 because she had miscarriages in the past, so she wanted to celebrate her first pregnancy happening long enough to have the fetus' sex determined. She ''never'' suggested the more outlandish reveals people have done, causing her to put this line in her Twitter profile so that it's the first thing everyone sees on it:
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* Parenting blogger Jenna Karvunidis, who created (or at least popularized) gender-reveal parties, has come to regret starting the trend. Karvunidis realized it's unfair to a child to place so much emphasis on their biological sex instead of letting them develop as individuals when her eldest daughter (for whom Karvunidis threw the first of these parties and blogged about it) started exhibiting tomboyish traits like a preference for suits and later came out as gender non-conforming. Not helping matters are the increasingly over-the-top acts parents have decided to take on to celebrate the sex of their unborn babies, including pyrotechnic displays that have caused [[https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/arizona-breaking/2018/11/26/sawmill-fire-explosion-caught-camera-during-gender-reveal-party/2121802002/ two]] [[https://www.desertsun.com/story/news/environment/wildfires/2020/09/06/el-dorado-fire-grows-2-727-acres-containment-remains-5/5734173002/ wildfires]] and the death of at least one firefighter. All Karvunidis ever did was bake a pink cake. In fact, Karvunidas threw the party because she had miscarriages in the past, so she wanted to celebrate her first offspring developing long enough to have their sex determined. She ''never'' suggested the more outlandish reveals people have done, causing her to put this line in her Twitter profile so that it's the first thing everyone sees on it:

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* Parenting blogger Jenna Karvunidis, who created (or at least popularized) gender-reveal parties, has come to regret starting the trend. Karvunidis realized it's unfair to a child to place so much emphasis on their biological sex instead of letting them develop as individuals when her eldest daughter (for whom Karvunidis threw the first of these parties and blogged about it) started exhibiting tomboyish traits like a preference for suits and later came out as gender non-conforming. Not helping matters are the increasingly over-the-top acts parents have decided to take on to celebrate the sex of their unborn babies, offspring, including pyrotechnic displays that have caused [[https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/arizona-breaking/2018/11/26/sawmill-fire-explosion-caught-camera-during-gender-reveal-party/2121802002/ two]] [[https://www.desertsun.com/story/news/environment/wildfires/2020/09/06/el-dorado-fire-grows-2-727-acres-containment-remains-5/5734173002/ wildfires]] and the death of at least one firefighter. All Karvunidis ever did was bake a pink cake. In fact, Karvunidas threw the party in 2008 because she had miscarriages in the past, so she wanted to celebrate her first offspring developing pregnancy happening long enough to have their the fetus' sex determined. She ''never'' suggested the more outlandish reveals people have done, causing her to put this line in her Twitter profile so that it's the first thing everyone sees on it:
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* Parenting blogger Jenna Karvunidis, who created (or at least popularized) gender-reveal parties, has come to regret her contribution to pop culture. When her eldest daughter (for whom Karvunidis threw the first of these parties and blogged about it) started exhibiting tomboyish traits including a preference for suits, Karvunidis realized it's unfair to a child to place so much emphasis on their biological sex instead of letting them develop as individuals. Not helping matters are the increasingly over-the-top acts parents have decided to take on to celebrate the sex of their unborn babies, including pyrotechnic displays that have caused [[https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/arizona-breaking/2018/11/26/sawmill-fire-explosion-caught-camera-during-gender-reveal-party/2121802002/ two]] [[https://www.desertsun.com/story/news/environment/wildfires/2020/09/06/el-dorado-fire-grows-2-727-acres-containment-remains-5/5734173002/ wildfires]] and the death of at least one firefighter. All Karvunidis herself ever did was bake a cake that was pink on the inside. She ''never'' suggested the more outlandish reveals people have done, causing her to put this line in her Twitter profile so that it's the first thing everyone sees on it:

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* Parenting blogger Jenna Karvunidis, who created (or at least popularized) gender-reveal parties, has come to regret her contribution to pop culture. When her eldest daughter (for whom Karvunidis threw starting the first of these parties and blogged about it) started exhibiting tomboyish traits including a preference for suits, trend. Karvunidis realized it's unfair to a child to place so much emphasis on their biological sex instead of letting them develop as individuals.individuals when her eldest daughter (for whom Karvunidis threw the first of these parties and blogged about it) started exhibiting tomboyish traits like a preference for suits and later came out as gender non-conforming. Not helping matters are the increasingly over-the-top acts parents have decided to take on to celebrate the sex of their unborn babies, including pyrotechnic displays that have caused [[https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/arizona-breaking/2018/11/26/sawmill-fire-explosion-caught-camera-during-gender-reveal-party/2121802002/ two]] [[https://www.desertsun.com/story/news/environment/wildfires/2020/09/06/el-dorado-fire-grows-2-727-acres-containment-remains-5/5734173002/ wildfires]] and the death of at least one firefighter. All Karvunidis herself ever did was bake a cake that was pink on cake. In fact, Karvunidas threw the inside.party because she had miscarriages in the past, so she wanted to celebrate her first offspring developing long enough to have their sex determined. She ''never'' suggested the more outlandish reveals people have done, causing her to put this line in her Twitter profile so that it's the first thing everyone sees on it:

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* Voice actor Creator/MatthewMercer [[https://youtu.be/q0rdH3pehS4?t=3992 said in an interview]] that he has gotten tired of being TheOtherDarrin for many of Creator/TroyBaker's old roles. After Baker became high in demand, Mercer took over for him in many instances since the two have a similar vocal range. He was offered to replace Baker as Yuri Lowell in ''VideoGame/TalesOfVesperia: Definitive Edition'', but turned it down, feeling that someone else should have the role instead.
** And then there's [[https://screenrant.com/critical-role-dnd-mercer-effect-dungeons-dragons-expectations/ the Mercer effect]], where people introduced to ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'' via his being the DM on ''WebVideo/CriticalRole'' expect ''every'' campaign to be like his (and the DM to provide different voices on par with a professional voice actor) and complain about their DM "not doing it right. As you can imagine, he's not happy about being associated with it.

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[[https://youtu.be/q0rdH3pehS4?t=3992 said in an interview]] that he has gotten tired of being TheOtherDarrin for many of Creator/TroyBaker's old roles. After Baker became high in demand, Mercer took over for him in many instances since the two have a similar vocal range. He was offered to replace Baker as Yuri Lowell in ''VideoGame/TalesOfVesperia: Definitive Edition'', but turned it down, feeling that someone else should have the role instead.
** And then there's The [[https://screenrant.com/critical-role-dnd-mercer-effect-dungeons-dragons-expectations/ the Matt Mercer effect]], where people introduced to ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'' via his being the DM on ''WebVideo/CriticalRole'' expect ''every'' campaign to be like his (and the DM to provide different voices on par with a professional voice actor) and complain about their DM "not doing it right. right." As you can imagine, he's not happy about being associated with it.
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* Inventor Alfred Nobel is perhaps best-known for his invention of dynamite, which he created as a way to help mining and construction projects. Later in his life, he was visiting Europe when he was shocked to hear that [[ReportsOfMyDeathWereGreatlyExaggerated he'd recently died]]; it was actually his brother who'd passed away, but somehow the wires got crossed. Nobel decided to see what people had to say in their obituaries of him...and was absolutely horrified to see himself painted as a "merchant of death" because of how armies around the world appropriated dynamite and nitroglycerin for weapons. The inventor was determined to leave a legacy of unquestionably positive change instead and so established a series of annual awards to be given to people who bettered humanity in areas of science, the arts, and, most importantly, peace. You probably know those awards better as the Nobel Prize.

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* Inventor Alfred Nobel is perhaps best-known for his invention of dynamite, which he created as a way to help mining and construction projects. Later in his life, he was visiting Europe when he was shocked to hear that [[ReportsOfMyDeathWereGreatlyExaggerated he'd recently died]]; it was actually his brother who'd passed away, but somehow the wires got crossed. Nobel decided to see what people had to say in their obituaries of him... and was absolutely horrified to see himself painted as a "merchant of death" because of how armies around the world appropriated dynamite and nitroglycerin for weapons. The inventor was determined to leave a legacy of unquestionably positive change instead and so established a series of annual awards to be given to people who bettered humanity in areas of science, the arts, and, most importantly, peace. You probably know those awards better as the Nobel Prize.
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Compare OldShame, for when a character in a work of fiction regrets something they did in their past, which may include an in-universe case of Creator Backlash. Compare and contrast BleachedUnderpants (where the work in question has ''[[{{NSFW}} questionable]]'' history which its creators would like to dispose of) and see also MagnumOpusDissonance and DisownedAdaptation. Overlaps with CanonDiscontinuity if the creator removes a disliked work from the series canon entirely. In the most extreme cases, the creator will attempt to BuryYourArt, in which they hate a work so much that they go the lengths to make sure it isn’t publicly available.

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Compare OldShame, for when a character in a work of fiction regrets something they did in their past, which may include an in-universe case of Creator Backlash. Compare and contrast BleachedUnderpants SelfCensoredRelease (where the work in question has ''[[{{NSFW}} questionable]]'' history which its creators would like to dispose of) and see also MagnumOpusDissonance and DisownedAdaptation. Overlaps with CanonDiscontinuity if the creator removes a disliked work from the series canon entirely. In the most extreme cases, the creator will attempt to BuryYourArt, in which they hate a work so much that they go the lengths to make sure it isn’t publicly available.
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** Alison Bechdel, namesake of UsefulNotes/TheBechdelTest, has expressed reservations with the way that it's taken as a simplistic measure of whether or not a work is sexist.

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** Alison Bechdel, Creator/AlisonBechdel, namesake of UsefulNotes/TheBechdelTest, has expressed reservations with the way that it's taken as a simplistic measure of whether or not a work is sexist.
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It can take on many forms and for many reasons. Perhaps an obscure work they made before becoming famous left a bad taste in their mouth. In addition, creators may feel their work has been ruined by ExecutiveMeddling. Another reason could be that the creator didn't really intend for it to become so popular, only making it to [[MoneyDearBoy pay the bills]] and [[OneForTheMoneyOneForTheArt fund their more serious work]] (perhaps even [[FranchiseZombie getting forced into continuing it]]). Perhaps people [[MisaimedFandom completely miss the point]]. Perhaps [[IAmNotSpock it has them typecast to a sickening level]]. Perhaps the [[MagnumOpusDissonance project that he puts a lot of effort on gets pathetic reactions from fans]]. Perhaps they [[CreatorBreakdown were going through a rough time while making it]]. Perhaps they thought it was great at the time but, in hindsight and with a more "mature" perspective, think otherwise. Perhaps it has become their only work that is generally known, casting them as a "OneHitWonder" in the eyes of the majority. Maybe they thought they could have done better. Maybe they begin to think TheWorldIsNotReady.

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It can take on many forms and for many reasons. Perhaps an obscure work they made before becoming famous left a bad taste in their mouth. In addition, creators may feel their work has been ruined by ExecutiveMeddling. Another reason could be that the creator didn't really intend for it to become so popular, only making it to [[MoneyDearBoy pay the bills]] and [[OneForTheMoneyOneForTheArt fund their more serious work]] (perhaps even [[FranchiseZombie getting forced into continuing it]]). Perhaps people [[MisaimedFandom completely miss the point]]. Perhaps [[IAmNotSpock it has them typecast to a sickening level]]. Perhaps the [[MagnumOpusDissonance project that he puts they put a lot of effort on in gets pathetic reactions from fans]]. Perhaps they [[CreatorBreakdown were going through a rough time while making it]]. Perhaps they thought it was great at the time but, in hindsight and with a more "mature" perspective, think otherwise. Perhaps it has become their only work that is generally known, casting them as a "OneHitWonder" in the eyes of the majority. Maybe they thought they could have done better. Maybe they begin to think TheWorldIsNotReady.
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** And then there's [[https://screenrant.com/critical-role-dnd-mercer-effect-dungeons-dragons-expectations/ the Mercer effect]], where people introduced to ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'' via his being the DM on ''WebVideo/CriticalRole'' expect ''every'' campaign to be like his (and the DM to provide different voices on par with a professional voice actor) and complain about their DM "not doing it right" when SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome occurs. As you can imagine, he's not happy about being associated with it.

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** And then there's [[https://screenrant.com/critical-role-dnd-mercer-effect-dungeons-dragons-expectations/ the Mercer effect]], where people introduced to ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'' via his being the DM on ''WebVideo/CriticalRole'' expect ''every'' campaign to be like his (and the DM to provide different voices on par with a professional voice actor) and complain about their DM "not doing it right" when SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome occurs.right. As you can imagine, he's not happy about being associated with it.
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* Just about all the creatives involved in the ''Franchise/MastersOfTheUniverse'' toyline despised the name "Masters of the Universe." They initially wanted a ProtagonistTitle, but switched to the name "Lords of Power" due to believing they needed to sell the other characters. Then ExecutiveMeddling demanded a switch away from that name, due to believing it sounded "religious." "Masters of the Universe" was a name they came up basically last-minute, and they felt it sounded terrible.

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* [[Webcomic/BooksOfAdam Adam Ellis]] drew a comic of himself killing off one of his earlier comics, currently the page image. In said comic, someone told their annoying friend to "let people enjoy things". This was often used about perfectly innocent stuff, like the ''Franchise/StarWars'' Prequels, but many also used it to promote hate and racism and act hyper-defensive of legitimate or constructive criticism. [[https://www.twitter.com/adamtotscomix/status/1644752595662131200 On his Twitter]], Adam has also stated that it was being used by pedophiles.

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* [[Webcomic/BooksOfAdam Adam Ellis]] drew a comic of himself killing off one of his earlier comics, currently the page image.comics. In said comic, someone told their annoying friend to "let people enjoy things". This was often used about perfectly innocent stuff, like the ''Franchise/StarWars'' Prequels, but many also used it to promote hate and racism and act hyper-defensive of legitimate or constructive criticism. [[https://www.twitter.com/adamtotscomix/status/1644752595662131200 On his Twitter]], Adam has also stated that it was being used by pedophiles.

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* When Creator/{{TSR}} began expanding the ''TabletopGame/ForgottenRealms'' setting for ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'', one of their major pushes for doing so were "Ethnic Fantasy" focused--taking {{Fantasy Counterpart Culture}} and HistoricalFantasy to the level of using them as the basis for entire new continents on the planet. This gave players the settings of ''TabletopGame/KaraTur'', ''TabletopGame/TheHordelands'' and ''TabletopGame/{{Maztica}}''. Ed Greenwood was a very vocal opponent of this decision, and his players have gone on record noting that he felt such additions were entirely missing the point of the Realms in general. He likewise opposed the general push of the Realms towards a more HistoricalFantasy or SwordsAndSorcery flavor, similar to that of ''TabletopGame/{{Greyhawk}}''. [[BrokenBase Fans are split]] on whether or not they agree with him, and not helping is the ValuesDissonance behind such settings.
* ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}} / TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}}'' isn't immune. GW regards the Squats and Zoats as [[CanonDiscontinuity "things better left forgotten"]]. However, hints of them do pop up in new material from time to time...
** In the now-defunct official Games Workshop webboard, posting anything about the Squats would typicaly result in the thread being deleted, and the thread-starter banhammered. It's a common joke that there is a special clock in GW's office counting down to a Squats re-release, but anytime someone asks the GW team to bring back Squats, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oc0-8BBkkq4 they have to reset the clock.]]
*** Predictably, a segment of the fanbase has decided that Squats and Zoats were the bestest thing since sliced squig, and mourn their disappearance as further evidence of GW having lost their soul.

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* ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'':
** Gary Gygax said that he regretted a number of rules that he felt pressured to put in various versions of ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'', singling out psionics, the monk class and weapon speeds and effects versus armor as JustForFun/{{egregious}} examples.
** The sexism of 1st Edition AD&D (the most infamously memetic being the lower strength caps for women rule) is likewise something which later editions' designers would like everyone to forget.
** Colin [=McComb=] has said as much of [[OurElvesAreDifferent The Complete Book of Elves]], and [[http://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?626446-Let-s-Read-The-Complete-Book-of-Elves/page32&p=16158533#post16158533 personally apologized for it on RPGNet]]. Though, for the record, he says the elves coming off as racist jerks [[DeliberateValuesDissonance was intentional.]]
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When Creator/{{TSR}} began expanding the ''TabletopGame/ForgottenRealms'' setting for ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'', setting, one of their major pushes for doing so were "Ethnic Fantasy" focused--taking {{Fantasy Counterpart Culture}} and HistoricalFantasy to the level of using them as the basis for entire new continents on the planet. This gave players the settings of ''TabletopGame/KaraTur'', ''TabletopGame/TheHordelands'' and ''TabletopGame/{{Maztica}}''. Ed Greenwood was a very vocal opponent of this decision, and his players have gone on record noting that he felt such additions were entirely missing the point of the Realms in general. He likewise opposed the general push of the Realms towards a more HistoricalFantasy or SwordsAndSorcery flavor, similar to that of ''TabletopGame/{{Greyhawk}}''. [[BrokenBase Fans are split]] on whether or not they agree with him, and not helping is the ValuesDissonance behind such settings.
* ''Franchise/{{Warhammer}}'':
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''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}} / TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}}'' isn't immune. GW regards the Squats and Zoats as [[CanonDiscontinuity "things better left forgotten"]]. However, hints of them do pop up in new material from time to time...
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In the now-defunct official Games Workshop webboard, posting anything about the Squats would typicaly result in the thread being deleted, and the thread-starter banhammered. It's a common joke that there is a special clock in GW's office counting down to a Squats re-release, but anytime someone asks the GW team to bring back Squats, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oc0-8BBkkq4 they have to reset the clock.]]
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]] Predictably, a segment of the fanbase has decided that Squats and Zoats were the bestest thing since sliced squig, and mourn their disappearance as further evidence of GW having lost their soul.



** Warhammer Fantasy also has the Firmir, a race of Cyclopean monsters that were essentially entirely excised from the fluff and had their army discontinued. Much of this might have to do with the questionable way they [[RapeAsDrama reproduce]]. Recently they've gotten little minor references in the rulebook, a summoned monster in Storm of Magic and a few Forge World models, but a new book is highly unlikely. Chaos Dwarves also seemed to be going that way, but they recently started get large amounts of reference in the fluff, mostly due to their proximity to the Ogre Kingdoms and their popularity with older players. Every time there's even a hint of something new coming, everyone will declare it's the Chaos Dwarves.

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** Warhammer Fantasy also has the ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}}'':
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Firmir, a race of Cyclopean monsters that were essentially entirely excised from the fluff and had their army discontinued. Much of this might have to do with the questionable way they [[RapeAsDrama reproduce]]. Recently they've gotten little minor references in the rulebook, a summoned monster in Storm of Magic and a few Forge World models, but a new book is highly unlikely. Chaos Dwarves also seemed to be going that way, but they recently started get large amounts of reference in the fluff, mostly due to their proximity to the Ogre Kingdoms and their popularity with older players. Every time there's even a hint of something new coming, everyone will declare it's the Chaos Dwarves.



** In ''TabletopGame/WerewolfTheApocalypse'', it's probably easier to list the various Tribes who ''weren't'' this at some point, to the fans if not the producers, given how much of them tended to rely on ethnic or subculture stereotypes. In fact, more than one fan has suggested that this is precisely ''why'' the SpiritualSuccessor, ''TabletopGame/WerewolfTheForsaken'', cast out all ideas of using ethnicity or subculture (feminists, the homeless, etc) as a basis for werewolf tribal cultures.

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** In ''TabletopGame/WerewolfTheApocalypse'', it's ''TabletopGame/WerewolfTheApocalypse'':
*** It's
probably easier to list the various Tribes who ''weren't'' this at some point, to the fans if not the producers, given how much of them tended to rely on ethnic or subculture stereotypes. In fact, more than one fan has suggested that this is precisely ''why'' the SpiritualSuccessor, ''TabletopGame/WerewolfTheForsaken'', cast out all ideas of using ethnicity or subculture (feminists, the homeless, etc) as a basis for werewolf tribal cultures.



* Gary Gygax said that he regretted a number of rules that he felt pressured to put in various versions of ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'', singling out psionics, the monk class and weapon speeds and effects versus armor as JustForFun/{{egregious}} examples.
** The sexism of 1st Edition AD&D (the most infamously memetic being the lower strength caps for women rule) is likewise something which later editions' designers would like everyone to forget.
** Colin [=McComb=] has said as much of [[OurElvesAreDifferent The Complete Book of Elves]], and [[http://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?626446-Let-s-Read-The-Complete-Book-of-Elves/page32&p=16158533#post16158533 personally apologized for it on RPGNet]]. Though, for the record, he says the elves coming off as racist jerks [[DeliberateValuesDissonance was intentional.]]



* ''TabletopGame/{{Exalted}}'' has the much-reviled ''Scroll of the Monk'', for writer Dean Shomshak. The first thing he did upon becoming an [[PromotedFanboy Ink Monkey]] was apologize for writing it.

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much-reviled ''Scroll of the Monk'', for writer Dean Shomshak. The first thing he did upon becoming an [[PromotedFanboy Ink Monkey]] was apologize for writing it.
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* FlipFlopOfGod: Hasbro had earlier stated that the Aligned universe wasn't part of the larger Transformers multiverse. However, they've since changed their minds as works like ''Rise of the Dark Spark'' and ''WesternAnimation/TransformersAnimated''[='=]s ''[[AllThereInTheManual The Complete AllSpark Almanac]]'' have since placed it as part of the larger multiverse after all, just unknown to it until the events of the former.

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* While Creator/{{Hasbro}} was trying an experiment with ''Franchise/TransformersAlignedUniverse'', many of the people involved in the various entries didn't want to be part of it, hence the number of BroadStrokes and {{Continuity Snarl}}s that happened, to the point the UniverseBible was ignored entirely.

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* While Creator/{{Hasbro}} was trying an experiment with ''Franchise/TransformersAlignedUniverse'', many A lot of the people involved in creative teams behind the various entries of the ''Franchise/TransformersAlignedUniverse'' didn't want their work in the Aligned continuity in the first place, which goes to be explain a lot of the [[BroadStrokes creative license]] and [[ContinuitySnarl various continuity issues]] between each entry. By the time ''Prime'' ended, the Binder of Revelation, the UniverseBible, had ended up completely ignored (and even before then, the IDW comics had already established too many character backstories for it to have been feasible to use anyway).
* FlipFlopOfGod: Hasbro had earlier stated that the Aligned universe wasn't
part of it, hence the number larger Transformers multiverse. However, they've since changed their minds as works like ''Rise of BroadStrokes the Dark Spark'' and {{Continuity Snarl}}s that happened, to ''WesternAnimation/TransformersAnimated''[='=]s ''[[AllThereInTheManual The Complete AllSpark Almanac]]'' have since placed it as part of the point larger multiverse after all, just unknown to it until the UniverseBible was ignored entirely.events of the former.
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* Some people that cause a MemeticMutation, either by accident or on purpose, may sometimes regret it and speak out against it. An example of this comes from the Ugandan Knuckles meme where it involves an OffModel of [[VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog Knuckles]] appearing in [=VRChat=] speaking in a terrible Ugandan accent asking people if they "know de way", name a random female player as their queen, and making lots of clicking noises. The person who uploaded the model for people to use regrets making the model open to the public and feels responsible for people not being able to enjoy [=VRChat=] without others abusing the meme everywhere.

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* Some people that cause a MemeticMutation, either by accident or on purpose, may sometimes regret it and speak out against it. An example of this comes from the Ugandan Knuckles meme where it involves an OffModel of [[VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog [[Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog Knuckles]] appearing in [=VRChat=] speaking in a terrible Ugandan accent asking people if they "know de way", name a random female player as their queen, and making lots of clicking noises. The person who uploaded the model for people to use regrets making the model open to the public and feels responsible for people not being able to enjoy [=VRChat=] without others abusing the meme everywhere.
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->"''The LORD saw how great was man’s wickedness on earth, and how every plan devised by his mind was nothing but evil all the time. And the LORD regretted that He had made man on earth, and His heart was saddened. The LORD said, "I will blot out from the earth the men whom I created—men together with beasts, creeping things, and birds of the sky; for I regret that I made them."''" (Genesis 6:5-7)

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->"''The -->"''The LORD saw how great was man’s wickedness on earth, and how every plan devised by his mind was nothing but evil all the time. And the LORD regretted that He had made man on earth, and His heart was saddened. The LORD said, "I will blot out from the earth the men whom I created—men together with beasts, creeping things, and birds of the sky; for I regret that I made them."''" (Genesis 6:5-7)
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* WebAnimation/{{FreezeFlame}}22 has gone on to state how much he regrets ''WebAnimation/TheKoopaKids'', the first series he ever made when he was very young (13 when it started and 16 by the time it ended). The series ran for three seasons from 2013 to 2016, and while it amassed a decent fanbase, [=FreezeFlame22=] came to dislike his own creation, claiming that it is a poorly written embarrassment and regretting many of the decisions such as the terrible writing for the characters (especially the Koopa family coming off as [[DesignatedHero Designated Heroes]] even though they come off as terrible people), the crude visuals and voice acting, and comedy that feels forced and unfunny (some of which hasn't aged the best) among other things. Because of this, Freeze decided to cancel the series in 2016, [[ContinuityReboot rebooting]] it a year later as ''WebAnimation/BowsersKoopalings'', a project which he is much satisfied with.

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* WebAnimation/{{FreezeFlame}}22 has gone on to state how much he regrets ''WebAnimation/TheKoopaKids'', the first series he ever made when he was very young (13 when it started and 16 by the time it ended). The series ran for three seasons from 2013 to 2016, and while it amassed a decent fanbase, [=FreezeFlame22=] came to dislike his own creation, claiming that regarding it is a poorly written embarrassment and regretting many of the decisions he took with it, such as the terrible writing for the characters (especially [[DesignatedHero the Koopa family coming off being portrayed as [[DesignatedHero Designated Heroes]] the good guys even though they all come off as terrible people), people most of the times]]), the crude visuals and voice acting, non-sensical lore and plotlines, and comedy that feels forced and unfunny (some of which hasn't aged the best) among other things. Because of this, Freeze decided to cancel the series in 2016, [[ContinuityReboot rebooting]] it a year later as ''WebAnimation/BowsersKoopalings'', a project which he is much more satisfied with.
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* WebAnimation/{{FreezeFlame}}22 has gone on to state how much he regrets ''WebAnimation/TheKoopaKids'', the first series he ever made when he was very young (13 when it started and 16 by the time it ended). The series ran for three seasons from 2013 to 2016, and while it amassed a decent fanbase, [=FreezeFlame22=] came to dislike his own creation, claiming that it is a poorly written embarrassment and regretting many of the decisions such as the terrible writing for the characters (especially the Koopa family coming off as [[DesignatedHero Designated Heroes]] even though they come off as terrible people), the crude visuals and voice acting, and comedy that feels forced and unfunny (some of which hasn't aged the best) among other things. Because of this, Freeze decided to cancel the series in 2016, [[ContinuityReboot rebooting]] it a year later as ''WebAnimation/BowsersKoopalings'', a project which he is much satisfied with.
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Creators aren't always proud of their work. Sometimes the opposite occurs -- a creator ends up despising their past work, whether it's an obscure work that didn't catch on and may not have many redeeming qualities in the first place, or a popular work that is loved by fans, much to the creator's dismay.

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Creators aren't always proud of their work. Sometimes the opposite Sometimes, a more extreme version occurs -- a creator ends up despising their past work, whether it's an obscure work that didn't catch on and may not have many redeeming qualities in the first place, or a popular work that is loved by fans, much to the creator's dismay.

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