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3rd Mar '17 7:13:18 AM Fighteer
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* [[AvertedTrope Averted]] in ''VideoGame/DiscoveryFreelancer''. This is known as a "trial by forum", and will get the post deleted, or if the behavior continues, the person behind it is not long for the community.
20th Feb '17 12:44:01 PM Crossover-Enthusiast
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* The Tribunal system in ''VideoGame/LeagueOfLegends'' allows players to vote on a case as to whether or not the accused deserves to be punished. The players assigned to a case can review logs of the in-game chat and vital game stats, a supermajority is needed for actual punishment, and the worst punishments are subject to manual review by Riot Games staff (as are randomly chosen cases that don't warrant particularly strong punishment).\\\
Though according to [[ByTheBookCop the summoner's code]] celebrating a victory with [[UnsportsmanlikeGloating "GG easy noobs"]] deserves a ban. Also, any time a player just has a bad game there are people who will try to get them [[DisproportionateRetribution reported for intentionally feeding]]. The forums are rife with people who claim they got falsely banned, though it should be noted that they are ''usually'' [[BadLiar hiding something]].\\\
The Tribunal has been removed in early 2014 and replaced with automated chat bans similar to ''{{Dota}} 2''. This cuts out the whole jury part of the equation and just punishes you automatically if enough people report you.

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* The Tribunal system in ''VideoGame/LeagueOfLegends'' allows players to vote on a case as to whether or not the accused deserves to be punished. The players assigned to a case can review logs of the in-game chat and vital game stats, a supermajority is needed for actual punishment, and the worst punishments are subject to manual review by Riot Games staff (as are randomly chosen cases that don't warrant particularly strong punishment).\\\
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According to [[ByTheBookCop the summoner's code]] code]], celebrating a victory with [[UnsportsmanlikeGloating "GG easy noobs"]] deserves a ban. Also, any time a player just has a bad game game, there are people who will try to get them [[DisproportionateRetribution reported for intentionally feeding]]. The forums are rife with people who claim they got falsely banned, though it should be noted that they are ''usually'' [[BadLiar hiding something]].\\\
The Tribunal has been was removed in early 2014 and replaced with automated chat bans bans, similar to ''{{Dota}} 2''. This cuts out the whole jury part of the equation and just punishes you automatically if enough people report you.
20th Feb '17 12:40:18 PM Crossover-Enthusiast
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* Played With in ''Fanfic/FirstTrySeries'', where Sakura's mother, Barako tries to get [[OriginalCharacter Tetsuo]], Kakashi and Naruto run out of Konoha for daring to stand up to her and taking her daughter on a months-long training trip. Danzo, Tetsuo's grandfather, takes offense and turns it around so that all of Konoha thinks Barako's a terrible parent.

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* Played With in ''Fanfic/FirstTrySeries'', where Sakura's mother, Barako Barako, tries to get [[OriginalCharacter Tetsuo]], Kakashi and Naruto run out of Konoha for daring to stand up to her and taking her daughter on a months-long training trip. Danzo, Tetsuo's grandfather, takes offense and turns it around so that all of Konoha thinks that Barako's a terrible parent.
20th Feb '17 12:34:58 PM Crossover-Enthusiast
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Usually when a person's guilt can't be proven (or has not yet been proven or disproven, [[OffOnATechnicality without counting ridiculous technicalities]]) in a court of law, it is assumed that they are innocent. But in the court of public opinion it tends to be the exact opposite. The public (or even the authorities) are convinced you're guilty; they just don't have enough hard evidence to prove your guilt. Now this doesn't necessarily means the person in question ''is'' guilty, mind you, It just means they have already been tried and convicted by public opinion. The public can either be right or dead wrong.

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Usually when a person's guilt can't be proven (or has not yet been proven or disproven, [[OffOnATechnicality without counting ridiculous technicalities]]) in a court of law, it is assumed that they are innocent. But in the court of public opinion it tends to be the exact opposite. The public (or even the authorities) are convinced you're guilty; they just don't have enough hard evidence to prove your guilt. Now this doesn't necessarily means the person in question ''is'' guilty, mind you, It just means they have already been tried and convicted by public opinion. The public can either be completely right or dead wrong.
16th Jan '17 10:08:45 AM Gosicrystal
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* The ''Franchise/AceAttorney'' series displays this a few times for the people inside the courtroom who are convinced that the defendant or a particular witness is truly guilty, despite what the evidence or lack of evidence shows. The judge is also easily swayed by the opinions of the prosecution and is sometimes quick to hand down a guilty verdict due to said opinions.
** It also applies to Phoenix's childhood where he is accused of stealing lunch money from his fellow classmate, Miles Edgeworth. All the children point their fingers at Phoenix as the thief and even the teacher is convinced that Phoenix is guilty, despite no direct evidence. Only Edgeworth and Larry Butz stand up for Phoenix and convince the whole class that he is not the guilty party. [[spoiler: It was Larry Butz, of course.]]
** Played straight in ''Apollo Justice'' where [[spoiler: Phoenix meets Zak seven years after he escaped from his trial. Phoenix tells him that the public firmly believes that his partner, Valant, helped him escape during the trial and they also believe that he was the one who killed Magnifi, even though there's no evidence to support their claims. To put everything to rest and let the public believe what it wants, Zak writes a confession note saying that he "killed" Magnifi. This is all before days after Zak is legally declared dead after seven years since his vanishing act]].
** In the first game, the first few times Phoenix meets Detective Gumshoe, he is recognized as the lawyer who defended a murderer. He has to point out that his client was actually found not guilty. To be fair, Gumshoe is shown as a big scatterbrain, so it's most likely he just kept forgetting the outcome of that trial.
** Also in the first game in the 5th case, a chief prosecutor is accused of murdering a detective. Miles Edgeworth, who was also accused of murder 2 months prior and declared innocent of the incident, steps up to be the prosecutor of the case. The people in the gallery are against Edgeworth because they still think he's a scumbag of a lawyer that would do anything to get people a guilty verdict (which was his rumored reputation for years) and others think he had used forged evidence to convict a serial murder on a case several years ago and is only stepping up now so that he can become the next chief prosecutor. [[spoiler: Edgeworth, while harsh in his methods, always follows the rules and while he didn't have a hand with forged evidence in the SL-9 case, someone else set him up with it, which started the rumors that followed him to the present. After the BigBad in the current case and the SL-9 case has his breakdown and gives his motive rant, Edgeworth realizes that he could very easily fall down the same slope, so he takes a break from his job to find out what it truly means to be a lawyer. By the time Edgeworth returns and learns his lesson, the public views him more favorably.]]

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* The ''Franchise/AceAttorney'' series displays this a few times for the people inside the courtroom who are convinced that the defendant or a particular witness is truly guilty, despite what the evidence or lack of evidence shows. The judge is also easily swayed by the opinions of the prosecution and is sometimes quick to hand down a guilty verdict due to said opinions.
** It also applies to Phoenix's childhood where he is accused of stealing lunch money from his fellow classmate, Miles Edgeworth. All the children point their fingers at Phoenix as the thief and even the teacher is convinced that Phoenix is guilty, despite no direct evidence. Only Edgeworth and Larry Butz stand up for Phoenix and convince the whole class that he is not the guilty party. [[spoiler: It was Larry Butz, of course.]]
** Played straight in ''Apollo Justice'' where [[spoiler: Phoenix meets Zak seven years after he escaped from his trial. Phoenix tells him that the public firmly believes that his partner, Valant, helped him escape during the trial and they also believe that he was the one who killed Magnifi, even though there's no evidence to support their claims. To put everything to rest and let the public believe what it wants, Zak writes a confession note saying that he "killed" Magnifi. This is all before days after Zak is legally declared dead after seven years since his vanishing act]].
** In the first game, the first few times Phoenix meets Detective Gumshoe, he is recognized as the lawyer who defended a murderer. He has to point out that his client was actually found not guilty. To be fair, Gumshoe is shown as a big scatterbrain, so it's most likely he just kept forgetting the outcome of that trial.
** Also in the first game in the 5th case, a chief prosecutor is accused of murdering a detective. Miles Edgeworth, who was also accused of murder 2 months prior and declared innocent of the incident, steps up to be the prosecutor of the case. The people in the gallery are against Edgeworth because they still think he's a scumbag of a lawyer that would do anything to get people a guilty verdict (which was his rumored reputation for years) and others think he had used forged evidence to convict a serial murder on a case several years ago and is only stepping up now so that he can become the next chief prosecutor. [[spoiler: Edgeworth, while harsh in his methods, always follows the rules and while he didn't have a hand with forged evidence in the SL-9 case, someone else set him up with it, which started the rumors that followed him to the present. After the BigBad in the current case and the SL-9 case has his breakdown and gives his motive rant, Edgeworth realizes that he could very easily fall down the same slope, so he takes a break from his job to find out what it truly means to be a lawyer. By the time Edgeworth returns and learns his lesson, the public views him more favorably.]]
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* The Tribunal system in ''VideoGame/LeagueOfLegends'' allows players to vote on a case as to whether or not the accused deserves to be punished. The players assigned to a case can review logs of the in-game chat and vital game stats, a supermajority is needed for actual punishment, and the worst punishments are subject to manual review by Riot Games staff (as are randomly chosen cases that don't warrant particularly strong punishment).
** Though according to [[ByTheBookCop the summoner's code]] celebrating a victory with [[UnsportsmanlikeGloating "GG easy noobs"]] deserves a ban. Also, any time a player just has a bad game there are people who will try to get them [[DisproportionateRetribution reported for intentionally feeding]]. The forums are rife with people who claim they got falsely banned, though it should be noted that they are ''usually'' [[BadLiar hiding something]].
** The Tribunal has been removed in early 2014 and replaced with automated chat bans similar to ''{{Dota}} 2''. This cuts out the whole jury part of the equation and just punishes you automatically if enough people report you.

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* The Tribunal system in ''VideoGame/LeagueOfLegends'' allows players to vote on a case as to whether or not the accused deserves to be punished. The players assigned to a case can review logs of the in-game chat and vital game stats, a supermajority is needed for actual punishment, and the worst punishments are subject to manual review by Riot Games staff (as are randomly chosen cases that don't warrant particularly strong punishment).
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punishment).\\\
Though according to [[ByTheBookCop the summoner's code]] celebrating a victory with [[UnsportsmanlikeGloating "GG easy noobs"]] deserves a ban. Also, any time a player just has a bad game there are people who will try to get them [[DisproportionateRetribution reported for intentionally feeding]]. The forums are rife with people who claim they got falsely banned, though it should be noted that they are ''usually'' [[BadLiar hiding something]].
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something]].\\\
The Tribunal has been removed in early 2014 and replaced with automated chat bans similar to ''{{Dota}} 2''. This cuts out the whole jury part of the equation and just punishes you automatically if enough people report you.


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* ''Franchise/AceAttorney'':
** The series displays this a few times for the people inside the courtroom who are convinced that the defendant or a particular witness is truly guilty, despite what the evidence or lack of evidence shows. The judge is also easily swayed by the opinions of the prosecution and is sometimes quick to hand down a guilty verdict due to said opinions.
** It applies to Phoenix's childhood where he is accused of stealing lunch money from his fellow classmate, Miles Edgeworth. All the children point their fingers at Phoenix as the thief and even the teacher is convinced that Phoenix is guilty, despite no direct evidence. Only Edgeworth and Larry Butz stand up for Phoenix and convince the whole class that he is not the guilty party. [[spoiler: It was Larry Butz, of course.]]
** Played straight in ''{{VisualNovel/Apollo Justice|Ace Attorney}}'' where [[spoiler: Phoenix meets Zak seven years after he escaped from his trial. Phoenix tells him that the public firmly believes that his partner, Valant, helped him escape during the trial and they also believe that he was the one who killed Magnifi, even though there's no evidence to support their claims. To put everything to rest and let the public believe what it wants, Zak writes a confession note saying that he "killed" Magnifi. This is all before days after Zak is legally declared dead after seven years since his vanishing act]].
** In [[VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorney the first game]], the first few times Phoenix meets Detective Gumshoe, he is recognized as the lawyer who defended a murderer. He has to point out that his client was actually found not guilty. To be fair, Gumshoe is shown as a big scatterbrain, so it's most likely he just kept forgetting the outcome of that trial.
** In the case "Rise from the Ashes", a chief prosecutor is accused of murdering a detective. Miles Edgeworth, who was also accused of murder 2 months prior and declared innocent of the incident, steps up to be the prosecutor of the case. The people in the gallery are against Edgeworth because they still think he's a scumbag of a lawyer that would do anything to get people a guilty verdict (which was his rumored reputation for years) and others think he had used forged evidence to convict a serial murder on a case several years ago and is only stepping up now so that he can become the next chief prosecutor. [[spoiler: Edgeworth, while harsh in his methods, always follows the rules and while he didn't have a hand with forged evidence in the SL-9 case, someone else set him up with it, which started the rumors that followed him to the present. After the BigBad in the current case and the SL-9 case has his breakdown and gives his motive rant, Edgeworth realizes that he could very easily fall down the same slope, so he takes a break from his job to find out what it truly means to be a lawyer. By the time Edgeworth returns and learns his lesson, the public views him more favorably.]]
** In [[VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorneySpiritOfJustice "The Magical Turnabout"]], everyone thinks Trucy is a murderer even ''before'' the trial has started thanks to exaggerations and slander [[{{Deconstruction}} in the media and the social networks]]. Trucy haters even ask for her death penalty full volume during the trial. Never the InUniverse audience has been so vocal about giving the pointer finger to a defendant.
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20th Dec '16 8:49:10 PM Bissek
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* In ''Literature/TheKillerAngels'', General Garnett considers himself this due to Stonewall Jackson accusing him of cowardice and then dying before Garnett could defend his actions. Because of this, he feels that he has to win a major victory or die trying in order to redeem his honor, which is why he insists on going on Pickett's Charge despite being too ill to walk. In the film adaptation, ''Film/{{Gettysburg}}'', his final scene shows him riding straight towards a loaded cannon.

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* In ''Literature/TheKillerAngels'', General Garnett considers himself this due to Stonewall Jackson accusing him of cowardice cowardice[[note]]He withdrew without orders from a battle, under circumstances where he could either pull his brigade out or watch them be destroyed.[[/note]] and then dying before Garnett could defend his actions. Because of this, he feels that he has to win a major victory or die trying in order to redeem his honor, which is why he insists on going on Pickett's Charge despite being too ill to walk. In the film adaptation, ''Film/{{Gettysburg}}'', ''Film/{{Gettysburg}}'' (which kept Garnett's need to go on the charge without explaining the reasons why), his final scene shows him riding straight towards a loaded cannon.
9th Dec '16 1:16:37 AM GlassCatOwl
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* A recurring theme in ''Creator/AgathaChristie'' stories, alongside the distrust that builds between suspects personally, often family members. "It is not the guilty that matter, but the innocent."

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* A recurring theme in ''Creator/AgathaChristie'' Creator/AgathaChristie stories, alongside the distrust that builds between suspects personally, often family members. "It is not the guilty that matter, but the innocent."
9th Dec '16 1:15:57 AM GlassCatOwl
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* A recurring theme in ''Creator/AgathaChristie'' stories, alongside the distrust that builds between suspects personally, often family members. "It is not the guilty that matter, but the innocent."
5th Nov '16 1:09:42 AM Mhazard
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If the public is particularly displeased with a juridical decision, they might take the matter into their own hands. See WitchHunt and VigilanteMan, although the public does not necessarily have to be unjust and violent.

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If the public is particularly displeased with a juridical decision, they might take the matter into their own hands. See WitchHunt and VigilanteMan, although the public does not necessarily have to be unjust and violent. \n If the convicted is convinced that it is hopeless to appeal, he might as well [[ThenLetMeBeEvil become the monster they asked for]].
29th Sep '16 12:54:39 PM Steven
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** Also in the first game in the 5th case, a chief prosecutor is accused of murdering a detective. Miles Edgeworth, who was also accused of murder 2 months prior and declared innocent of the incident, steps up to be the prosecutor of the case. The people in the gallery are against Edgeworth because they still think he's a scumbag of a lawyer that would do anything to get people a guilty verdict (which was his rumored reputation for years) and others think he had used forged evidence to convict a serial murder on a case several years ago and is only stepping up now so that he can become the next chief prosecutor. [[spoiler: Edgeworth, while harsh in his methods, always follows the rules and while he didn't have a hand with forged evidence in the SL-9 case, someone else set him up with it, which started the rumors that followed him to the present. After the BigBad in the current case and the SL-9 case has his breakdown and gives his motive rant, Edgeworth realizes that he could very easily fall down the same slope, so he takes a break from his job to find out what it truly means to be a lawyer. By the time Edgeworth returns and learns his lesson, the public views him more favorably.]]
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