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30th Apr '18 3:12:54 PM KingLyger
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This kind of criticism is about being honest, clear, and considerate in your comments. In particular, a respectful tone is crucial in proper constructive criticism. [[GoodIsNotSoft There is no handholding]], and this does not mean making only positive comments: it is not constructive to say a bad work is good. Proper critique, however, also avoids unmitigated BrutalHonesty. The ideal Constructive Critic is a master of VerbalJudo: honestly and directly pointing out flaws while simultaneously highlighting strengths and unexplored avenues of a work, all while maintaining a neutral to positive tone. In short, you are trying to help the artist improve both ''positively'' and ''honestly'', not shame them into improving.

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This kind of criticism is about being honest, clear, and considerate in your comments. In particular, a respectful tone is crucial in proper constructive criticism. [[GoodIsNotSoft There is no handholding]], and this does not mean making only positive comments: comments; it is not constructive to say a bad work is good.good if you honestly thought it was bad. Proper critique, however, also avoids unmitigated BrutalHonesty. The ideal Constructive Critic is a master of VerbalJudo: honestly and directly pointing out flaws while simultaneously highlighting strengths and unexplored avenues of a work, all while maintaining a neutral to positive tone. In short, you are trying to help the artist improve both ''positively'' and ''honestly'', not shame them into improving.
28th Jan '18 10:36:40 AM Nicoaln
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One method of giving Constructive Criticism is the "Feedback sandwich" method. You begin by saying what the person did right, then delve into what they need to improve on, and finish off with a comment on what else they are doing right, often including comments on why it works. The "Bread" are the compliments, while the filling is the criticism, and you often season it with explanations as to why you come to the conclusion you did. This method works because starting off with the criticism is often what leads to people instinctively taking it as a form of attack, and/or feeling like they did ''nothing'' right. Starting off with an observation on what they ''are'' doing right lets them know that you do respect them, and in turn makes them far more open to listening to you when you point out the flaws or shortcomings. Finishing it off with another comment on what they did right also leaves a better taste in their mouth. It has been proven that when people are "proven wrong" so to speak, it often triggers the fight-or-flight response - the "Feedback sandwich" method helps to mitigate this by letting them know what they did right and that you are there to help.
19th Jul '17 5:02:33 PM Josef5678
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Unfortunately; finding criticism is rather hard in the internet age. It's easy to ''get'' criticism on the internet, but when it's mixed with the {{GIFT}}, people will often take that as an opportunity to act like a complete dick and call it criticism. If someone walked up to you and asked you for critique and you gave a very rude-sounding critique, then they won't ask you again and you won't get to critique anything. On the internet, there's loads ''loads'' more random people and works to critique, especially since you can find it anytime you want.

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Unfortunately; Unfortunately, finding criticism is rather hard in the internet age. It's easy to ''get'' criticism on the internet, but when it's mixed with the {{GIFT}}, people will often take that as an opportunity to act like a complete dick and call it criticism. If someone walked up to you and asked you for critique and you gave a very rude-sounding critique, then they won't ask you again and you won't get to critique anything. On the internet, there's loads ''loads'' more random people and works to critique, especially since you can find it anytime you want.
26th Dec '16 1:20:44 PM fruitstripegum
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7th Dec '16 7:17:04 AM SeptimusHeap
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Now you might be wondering if Constructive Criticism is appropriate for this site. Of course it's better than Administrivia/ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike, but describing tropes and listing examples doesn't actually call for criticism. There are some places where it can fit, particularly in {{YKTTW}}. You can help a new trope a lot more with this kind of criticism than insulting the new trope, the troper that posted it, or [[YourMom that troper's mother]].

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Now you might be wondering if Constructive Criticism is appropriate for this site. Of course it's better than Administrivia/ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike, but describing tropes and listing examples doesn't actually call for criticism. There are some places where it can fit, particularly in {{YKTTW}}.the TropeLaunchPad. You can help a new trope a lot more with this kind of criticism than insulting the new trope, the troper that posted it, or [[YourMom that troper's mother]].
8th Jan '16 2:18:34 PM Scorpion451
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* [[OhGreatASnarkIndex Snark]], {{Cluster F Bomb}}s, {{Caustic Critic}}ism, and [[ItSucks any use of the work "sucks" outside of the context of describing particle movement]] automatically transform even the most well intentioned critique into a ReasonWhyYouSuckSpeech. And perhaps the most important thing: ''Don't mock the work OR the author''. A critique is not a [[TheRoast comedy roast]]. When you start doing any of these things, most people will think you are {{troll}}ing them- ''[[TomatoInTheMirror because you are trolling them]]''.

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* [[OhGreatASnarkIndex Snark]], {{Cluster F Bomb}}s, {{Caustic Critic}}ism, and [[ItSucks any use of the work word "sucks" outside of the context of describing particle movement]] automatically transform even the most well intentioned critique into a ReasonWhyYouSuckSpeech. And perhaps the most important thing: ''Don't mock the work OR the author''. A critique is not a [[TheRoast comedy roast]]. When you start doing any of these things, most people will think you are {{troll}}ing them- ''[[TomatoInTheMirror because you are trolling them]]''.
2nd Jun '15 8:23:44 AM Morgenthaler
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->"Okay, I've read your script, and it's retarded. You should just use it for toilet paper. [[OpinionMyopia Nobody likes car chases anymore]], and your crappy jokes make [[Creator/ArnoldSchwarzenegger Arnold]] look like [[Creator/WilliamShakespeare Shakespeare]]. You thought that shit was funny? Oh, the love scenes were good. I always knew you were gay."

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->"Okay, I've read your script, and it's retarded. You should just use it for toilet paper. [[OpinionMyopia Nobody likes car chases anymore]], and your crappy jokes make [[Creator/ArnoldSchwarzenegger Arnold]] look like [[Creator/WilliamShakespeare Shakespeare]]. You thought that shit was funny? Oh, the love scenes were good. [[RealMenHateAffection I always knew you were gay.gay]]."
18th Nov '14 7:42:52 AM Scorpion451
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This kind of criticism is about being honest, clear, and considerate in your comments. In particular, a respectful tone is crucial in proper constructive criticism. [[GoodIsNotSoft There is no handholding]], and this does not mean making only positive comments: it is not constructive to say a bad work is good. Proper critique, however, also avoids unmitigated BrutalHonesty. A good Constructive Critic is a master of VerbalJudo: honestly and directly pointing out flaws while simultaneously highlighting strengths and unexplored avenues of a work, all while maintaining a neutral to positive tone. In short, you are trying to help the artist improve both ''positively'' and ''honestly''.

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This kind of criticism is about being honest, clear, and considerate in your comments. In particular, a respectful tone is crucial in proper constructive criticism. [[GoodIsNotSoft There is no handholding]], and this does not mean making only positive comments: it is not constructive to say a bad work is good. Proper critique, however, also avoids unmitigated BrutalHonesty. A good The ideal Constructive Critic is a master of VerbalJudo: honestly and directly pointing out flaws while simultaneously highlighting strengths and unexplored avenues of a work, all while maintaining a neutral to positive tone. In short, you are trying to help the artist improve both ''positively'' and ''honestly''.
''honestly'', not shame them into improving.



Now you might be wondering if Constructive Criticism is appropriate for this site. Of course it's better than Administrivia/ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike, but describing tropes and listing examples doesn't actually call for criticism. There are some places where it can fit, particularly in {{YKTTW}}. You can help a new trope a lot more with this kind of criticism than insulting the new trope, the troper that posted it, or [[YourMom that troper's mother]].

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Now you might be wondering if Constructive Criticism is appropriate for this site. Of course it's better than Administrivia/ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike, but describing tropes and listing examples doesn't actually call for criticism. There are some places where it can fit, particularly in {{YKTTW}}. You can help a new trope a lot more with this kind of criticism than insulting the new trope, the troper that posted it, or [[YourMom that troper's mother]].


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Now you might be wondering if Constructive Criticism is appropriate for this site. Of course it's better than Administrivia/ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike, but describing tropes and listing examples doesn't actually call for criticism. There are some places where it can fit, particularly in {{YKTTW}}. You can help a new trope a lot more with this kind of criticism than insulting the new trope, the troper that posted it, or [[YourMom that troper's mother]].
23rd Oct '14 8:31:42 AM Scorpion451
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You'll notice that most people don't actually ''understand'' the concept of Constructive Criticism. As you'll probably learn if you take a college-level creative writing course, one of the most ''important things'' about Constructive Criticism is ''don't rewrite the work'' to suit your desires. The point is to make it into something that ''[[TargetAudience the intended audience]]'' will like. This is actually one of the ''biggest'' things that people need to learn about being constructive, because it is not very constructive to try to suggest the author to write a work into something that ''you'' want to enjoy. You will notice this as a trend in people who are members of the PeripheryHatedom, especially if they have a BiasSteamroller.


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You'll notice that most people don't actually ''understand'' the concept of Constructive Criticism. As you'll probably learn if you take a college-level creative writing course, one of the most ''important things'' ''important'' things about Constructive Criticism is ''don't don't rewrite the work'' work to [[OpinionMyopia suit your desires.own desires]]. The point is to make it into something that ''[[TargetAudience the intended audience]]'' will like. This is actually one of the ''biggest'' things that people need to learn about being constructive, because it is not very constructive to try to suggest the author to write a work into something that ''you'' want to enjoy. You will notice this as a trend in people who are members of the PeripheryHatedom, especially if they have a BiasSteamroller.

BiasSteamroller, and those with extreme FanMyopia.

8th Oct '14 9:18:32 AM Scorpion451
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This kind of criticism is about being honest, clear, and considerate in your comments. In particular, a respectful tone is crucial in proper constructive criticism. [[GoodIsNotSoft There is no handholding]], and this does not mean making only positive comments. It is not constructive to say a bad work is good. It does, however mean you're , but neither is there unmitigated BrutalHonesty- a good Constructive Critic is a master of VerbalJudo: honestly and directly pointing out flaws while simultaneously highlighting strengths and unexplored avenues of a work, all while maintaining a neutral to positive tone. In short, you are trying to help the artist improve positively.

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This kind of criticism is about being honest, clear, and considerate in your comments. In particular, a respectful tone is crucial in proper constructive criticism. [[GoodIsNotSoft There is no handholding]], and this does not mean making only positive comments. It comments: it is not constructive to say a bad work is good. It does, however mean you're , but neither is there Proper critique, however, also avoids unmitigated BrutalHonesty- a BrutalHonesty. A good Constructive Critic is a master of VerbalJudo: honestly and directly pointing out flaws while simultaneously highlighting strengths and unexplored avenues of a work, all while maintaining a neutral to positive tone. In short, you are trying to help the artist improve positively.
both ''positively'' and ''honestly''.
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