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7th Jun '18 11:14:25 AM Mhazard
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If a Cannon Fodder manages to outlive the others and get the jobs done over and over again, despite being expected to be killed in battle by their superiors, they may graduate into a SurprisinglyEliteCannonFodder.

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If a Cannon Fodder manages to outlive the others and get the jobs done over and over again, despite being expected to be killed in battle battles by their superiors, they may graduate into a SurprisinglyEliteCannonFodder.
7th Jun '18 11:13:52 AM Mhazard
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If a Cannon Fodder manages to outlive the others and get the jobs done over and over again, despite they're expected to be killed in battle by their superiors, they may graduate into a SurprisinglyEliteCannonFodder.

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If a Cannon Fodder manages to outlive the others and get the jobs done over and over again, despite they're being expected to be killed in battle by their superiors, they may graduate into a SurprisinglyEliteCannonFodder.
7th Jun '18 11:13:21 AM Mhazard
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If a Cannon Fodder manages to outlive the others and get the jobs done over and over again, they may graduate into a SurprisinglyEliteCannonFodder.

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If a Cannon Fodder manages to outlive the others and get the jobs done over and over again, despite they're expected to be killed in battle by their superiors, they may graduate into a SurprisinglyEliteCannonFodder.
7th Jun '18 11:12:29 AM Mhazard
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If a Cannon Fodder manages to outlive the others and manages to get the jobs done over and over again, they may graduate into a SurprisinglyEliteCannonFodder.

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If a Cannon Fodder manages to outlive the others and manages to get the jobs done over and over again, they may graduate into a SurprisinglyEliteCannonFodder.
7th Jun '18 11:12:16 AM Mhazard
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If a Cannon Fodder manages to outlive the others and manages to get the jobs done over and over again, they may graduate into a SurprisinglyEliteCannonFodder.
7th Apr '18 6:08:40 PM nombretomado
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[[IThoughtItMeant For the classic video game named]] ''Cannon Fodder'', [[VideoGame/CannonFodder see here]]. Not to be confused the the [[PunnyName punny trope]] CanonFodder.

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[[IThoughtItMeant [[JustForFun/IThoughtItMeant For the classic video game named]] ''Cannon Fodder'', [[VideoGame/CannonFodder see here]]. Not to be confused the the [[PunnyName punny trope]] CanonFodder.
22nd Mar '18 4:12:19 AM Mukademaoh
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* In ''[[VideoGame/{{Dungeons}} Dungeons III]]'', the Undead can turn dead or imprisoned heroes in Zombies or Skeletal Archers respectively. These creatures travel in packs, are pitifully weak but do not count towards your population limit. In short, [[InvokedTrope they are suited for]] taking on heroes in melee and distract them from your stronger, more precious creatures.
27th Feb '18 5:39:40 PM DrVonOppendown
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* ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'' lets you choose which target your gun crews are shooting at, so it's hard to ''force'' your opponent to focus on your most expendable troops, but there's two ways you can evoke this trope. The first is the "tarpit" approach, where you lock up your enemy's most dangerous melee units in a long assault against cheap, worthless troops - that single SpaceMarine Terminator costs as much as ten Guardsmen, and will probably beat them in combat, but it's going to take a few rounds for him to do so, in which he's not earning his points cost back by killing something more valuable. Second is the "ablative wounds" approach, where you add additional soldiers to a squad to discard as casualties after taking fire. The more regular soldiers there are, the more likely the troopers carrying the plasma gun or missile launcher are to survive to use their more potent weapons. As for the individual armies and their designated Cannon Fodder units:

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* ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'' lets you choose which target your gun crews are shooting at, so it's hard to ''force'' your opponent to focus on your most expendable troops, but there's two ways you can evoke this trope. The first is the "tarpit" approach, where you lock up your enemy's most dangerous melee units in a long assault against cheap, worthless troops - that single SpaceMarine Terminator costs as much as ten Guardsmen, and will probably beat them in combat, but it's going to take a few rounds for him to do so, in which he's not earning his points cost back by killing something more valuable. Second is the "ablative wounds" [[note]]Or "bubble wrap", if you're of a less technical mindset[[/note]] approach, where you add additional soldiers to a squad to discard as casualties after taking fire. The more regular soldiers there are, the more likely the troopers carrying the plasma gun or missile launcher are to survive to use their more potent weapons. As for the individual armies and their designated Cannon Fodder units:



** The Tau tend to use their Kroot allies and other alien auxiliaries as this, but not to soak up enemy gunfire, rather to meet or counter-charge an enemy assault, since the Tau [[CripplingOverspecialization are miserable in close combat.]] In practice, though, the Kroot mostly end up serving this purpose since they're cheap, numerous, and not very good in their intended role as melee troops.

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** The Tau tend to use their Kroot allies and other alien auxiliaries as this, but not to soak up enemy gunfire, rather to meet or counter-charge an enemy assault, since the Tau [[CripplingOverspecialization are miserable in close combat.]] In practice, though, the Kroot mostly end up serving this purpose since they're cheap, numerous, and not very good in The bullet-catcher role is instead given to their intended role as melee troops.[[AttackDrone Gun Drones]], which are inexpensive (both in lore and on the tabletop), reasonably well armed and, critically, infinitely more expendable than the living soldiers around them.



** A common term among players for this sort of unit is "bubble wrap", as they exist almost entirely to absorb blows to far more valuable units, any form of counter-attack capability being absolutely secondary to their ability to die usefully.
27th Feb '18 4:42:30 PM DrVonOppendown
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** The Tau tend to use their Kroot allies and other alien auxiliaries as this, but not to soak up enemy gunfire, rather to meet or counter-charge an enemy assault, since the Tau [[CripplingOverspecialization are miserable in close combat.]]

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** The Tau tend to use their Kroot allies and other alien auxiliaries as this, but not to soak up enemy gunfire, rather to meet or counter-charge an enemy assault, since the Tau [[CripplingOverspecialization are miserable in close combat.]]]] In practice, though, the Kroot mostly end up serving this purpose since they're cheap, numerous, and not very good in their intended role as melee troops.


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** A common term among players for this sort of unit is "bubble wrap", as they exist almost entirely to absorb blows to far more valuable units, any form of counter-attack capability being absolutely secondary to their ability to die usefully.
6th Feb '18 8:11:53 AM infernape612
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The term Cannon Fodder itself originated in the endless assaults of the UsefulNotes/WorldWarI Western Front, where there were no operational breakthroughs past the enemy's trench defenses and ''every'' battle consisted entirely of the hard-fought 'assault' phase (assault, breakthrough, exploitation). In this context of these huge battles in which trenches weren't taken faster than they could be dug[[note]] the real problem was with the artillery cover. Friendly artillery would blow the shit out of the defenses, which the infantry would then swarm and defend against enemy counter-attacks. But all artillery pieces have limited range, leaving the infantry vulnerable to bombardments from enemy artillery. To keep advancing you'd need to move the city block's worth of artillery forward... together with an actual mountain of ammunition and horse fodder and human-food... through the area you just blew the shit out of... faster than the enemy could use trains to just dump all their stuff where it was needed. In practice this was very, very tricky to pull off even if you had all the horses and supplies you needed and organised them perfectly. The Entente never really managed it, with all operations before 1918 having to stop advancing eventually due to unsustainable horse-deaths (from exhaustion) [[/note]], the infantrymen [[BlackHumor were said]] to be nothing more than fodder (a term usually used to describe horse feed) for the artillery. However, its French equivalent ''chair à canon'' (cannon meat) was used a hundred years earlier by Chateaubriand, this being a reference to artillery's fearsome killing power and pivotal role on the pre-rifle battlefields of the Napoleonic Wars. A similar term from times when artillery pieces were so expensive, rare, and heavy they were used almost exclusively for sieges and ships ("food for powder") dates back to the 16th century at least; it is used by Falstaff in Shakespeare's ''Theatre/HenryIVPart1''.

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The term Cannon Fodder itself originated in the endless assaults of the UsefulNotes/WorldWarI Western Front, where there were no operational breakthroughs past the enemy's trench defenses and ''every'' battle consisted entirely of the hard-fought 'assault' phase (assault, breakthrough, exploitation). In this context of these huge battles in which trenches weren't taken faster than they could be dug[[note]] the real problem was with the artillery cover. Friendly artillery would blow the shit out of the defenses, which the infantry would then swarm and defend against enemy counter-attacks. But all artillery pieces have limited range, leaving the infantry vulnerable to bombardments from enemy artillery. To keep advancing you'd need to move the city block's worth of artillery forward... together with an actual mountain of ammunition and horse fodder and human-food... through the area you just blew the shit out of... faster than the enemy could use trains to just dump all their stuff where it was needed. In practice this was very, very tricky to pull off even if you had all the horses and supplies you needed and organised them perfectly. The Entente never really managed it, with all operations before 1918 having to stop advancing eventually due to unsustainable horse-deaths (from exhaustion) [[/note]], the infantrymen [[BlackHumor [[BlackComedy were said]] to be nothing more than fodder (a term usually used to describe horse feed) for the artillery. However, its French equivalent ''chair à canon'' (cannon meat) was used a hundred years earlier by Chateaubriand, this being a reference to artillery's fearsome killing power and pivotal role on the pre-rifle battlefields of the Napoleonic Wars. A similar term from times when artillery pieces were so expensive, rare, and heavy they were used almost exclusively for sieges and ships ("food for powder") dates back to the 16th century at least; it is used by Falstaff in Shakespeare's ''Theatre/HenryIVPart1''.
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