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31st Mar '16 1:09:43 PM ObsidianFire
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* {{Discussed}} in ''VideoGame/MassEffect3: Citadel'' between two CAT-6 mercs who've been ordered to slow Shepard down. One of them questions the ExactWords of the order, wondering if they're allowed to kill Shepard. The other suggests that they aren't ''expected'' to. Shepard is [[GenreSavvy fully aware of this]].

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* {{Discussed}} in ''VideoGame/MassEffect3: Citadel'' between two CAT-6 mercs who've been ordered to slow Shepard down. One of them questions the ExactWords of the order, wondering if they're allowed to kill Shepard. The other suggests that they aren't ''expected'' to. Shepard is [[GenreSavvy fully aware of this]].this.
24th Jan '16 3:57:10 PM chc232323
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* One of the most chilling examples is AllQuietOnTheWesternFront, where we are treated to scores of deaths of nameless individuals. The narrator, Paul, only bothers to give a handful of his comrades names, and AnyoneCanDie. Paul shows less and less concern about dying soldiers as time goes on, showing ever growing indifference to the deaths of countless men. The novel may be the TropeCodifier for this trope, at least as far as modern armies go.
30th Dec '15 5:54:44 AM SolidSonicTH
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* The lowest-ranked battle droids in the ''Franchise/StarWars'' prequel trilogy and associated works are a combination of this and ButtMonkey. As robots go they're hilariously incompetent (almost acting sentient but in bad ways like forgetting orders or bickering with each other) and never present any real threat to the Jedi they fight, just minor annoyances before they're maimed and hacked to bits.
26th Dec '15 8:54:59 PM jormis29
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* During the joint infantry-air operation in ''{{Simoun}}'', the AcePilot Floe grows close to a simple rifleman, only to painfully discover the enormous gap between them.
* ''TengenToppaGurrenLagann'' has the mass-produced Grappal Army as cannon fodder; the one-of-a-kind Ganmen and the Gurren Lagann, meanwhile, are the ones who do most of the ass-kicking. Gimmy and Darry, however, are {{Mauve Shirt}}s and often receive PlotArmor.

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* During the joint infantry-air operation in ''{{Simoun}}'', ''Anime/{{Simoun}}'', the AcePilot Floe grows close to a simple rifleman, only to painfully discover the enormous gap between them.
* ''TengenToppaGurrenLagann'' ''Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann'' has the mass-produced Grappal Army as cannon fodder; the one-of-a-kind Ganmen and the Gurren Lagann, meanwhile, are the ones who do most of the ass-kicking. Gimmy and Darry, however, are {{Mauve Shirt}}s and often receive PlotArmor.
29th Nov '15 10:23:03 PM CountDorku
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** The Iron Warriors Space Marines were so noted for taking this approach to their attached Army regiments that pre-corruption Horus signed a specific order that Perturabo's troops could only be given control over [[BoxedCrook expendable penal regiments]] and enslaved forces from recently conquered worlds.
16th Nov '15 7:08:38 AM FF32
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* Played with in the opening scene of the first episode of ''{{Blackadder}}'', when King Richard III and his nephew talk about Edmund at the banquet on the eve of the Battle of Bosworth:

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* Played with in the opening scene of the first episode of ''{{Blackadder}}'', ''Series/{{Blackadder}}'', when King Richard III and his nephew talk about Edmund at the banquet on the eve of the Battle of Bosworth:
3rd Nov '15 9:02:19 AM Euodiachloris
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** More generally, the basic strategic practice in both Weseros and Essos is to send [[PrivateMilitaryContractors the sellswords]] in first -- unless it's the [[TheAce Golden Company]] (they you can treat as solid retainers with skills, not simply liabilities making up the numbers). This is to try to get your money's worth, just in case they turn tail... or, because you hope to get away with just paying the deposit. Wise captains of sellsword companies look out for the second eventuality, and will [[ChronicBackstabbingDisorder jump ship and switch sides]] if they think they see it coming. {{Irony}}, much? The whole war around Meereen can basically be described as a mad scrambling between two main factions (and a couple of minor ones)... and all the sellsword companies trying desperately to make a profit from any of them, while trying to [[DeconstructedTrope avoid being turned into mince]].

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** More generally, the basic strategic practice in both Weseros and Essos is to send [[PrivateMilitaryContractors the sellswords]] in first -- unless it's the [[TheAce Golden Company]] (they you can treat as solid retainers with skills, not simply liabilities making up the numbers). This is to try to get your money's worth, just in case they turn tail... or, because you hope to get away with just paying the deposit. Wise captains of sellsword companies look out for the second eventuality, and will [[ChronicBackstabbingDisorder jump ship and switch sides]] if they think they see it coming. {{Irony}}, much? The whole war around Meereen can basically be described as a mad advertising campaign and financial scrambling between two main factions (and a couple of minor ones)... and all the sellsword companies trying desperately to make a profit from any of them, while trying to [[DeconstructedTrope avoid being turned into mince]].sudden mince]]. In short: not much serious fighting, even though the lines and loyalties are pretty fluid.
25th Oct '15 10:04:02 AM MAI742
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* ''How many hordes there are in a Chinese platoon?'' A sarcastic joke amongst the UN troops during the Korean War. The constant nighttime [[ZergRush infiltration-assault attacks]] of People's Liberation Army infantry Platoons (50-100 men) on UN infantry Squads (10 men), in the context of PLA Batallions (500 men) attacking UN Platoons (50-100 men) produced appalling casualties which favoured the Chinese. The daytime UN artillery bombardments and infantry-supported tank attacks, on the other hand, produced apalling casualties which heavily favoured the UN. Despite their bravery and cunning in executing such a strategy the balance of losses still worked out very badly against the PLA, not least because of their lesser medical resources.

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* ''How many hordes there are in a Chinese platoon?'' A sarcastic joke amongst the UN troops during the Korean War. The constant nighttime [[ZergRush infiltration-assault attacks]] of People's Liberation Army infantry Platoons (50-100 men) on UN infantry Squads (10 men), in the context of PLA Batallions (500 men) attacking UN Platoons (50-100 men) produced appalling casualties which broadly favoured the Chinese. The daytime UN artillery bombardments and infantry-supported tank attacks, on the other hand, produced even more apalling casualties which heavily favoured the UN. Despite their bravery and cunning in executing such a strategy the balance of losses still worked out very badly against the PLA, not least because of their lesser medical resources.
25th Oct '15 10:03:09 AM MAI742
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* ''How many hordes there are in a Chinese platoon?'' A sarcastic joke amongst the UN troops during the Korean War. The [[ZergRush human wave attacks]] of the Chinese infantry produced an appalling amount of dead, implying the Chinese infantry were nothing but cannon fodder.

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* ''How many hordes there are in a Chinese platoon?'' A sarcastic joke amongst the UN troops during the Korean War. The constant nighttime [[ZergRush human wave infiltration-assault attacks]] of the Chinese People's Liberation Army infantry Platoons (50-100 men) on UN infantry Squads (10 men), in the context of PLA Batallions (500 men) attacking UN Platoons (50-100 men) produced an appalling amount of dead, implying casualties which favoured the Chinese infantry were nothing but cannon fodder.Chinese. The daytime UN artillery bombardments and infantry-supported tank attacks, on the other hand, produced apalling casualties which heavily favoured the UN. Despite their bravery and cunning in executing such a strategy the balance of losses still worked out very badly against the PLA, not least because of their lesser medical resources.
25th Oct '15 9:22:00 AM MAI742
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* There have been few better examples than the 100,000 men of Vasily Chuikov's 62nd Reserve Army. Based in the Stalingrad district, it was still being formed and had months of training, arming, and equipping still to go when the front lines ended up on their doorstep in early September 1942. In the next two months the 62nd Army was tasked with luring the German 6th Army close to the city through a series of relentless counterattacks, regardless of losses, to make it possible for Soviet mobile forces to encircle the entire army in a counter-offensive operation that November. They succeeded, luring a full 60,000 troops deep into the city and drawing another 120,000 German and 200,000 Italian and Romanian troops within a hundred kilometres of it. In doing so they lost 300,000 men and suffered another 300,000 wounded: this was a full ''thirtieth'' of the entire losses suffered by the Red Army in World War Two, or a full third of the Western Allies' total deaths in WWII. Some of the most extreme examples (counting wounded among the survivors) include the 112th Rifle Division, which had about 7k men at the beginning of the urban fighting in September and had 250 when it was evacuated on the 29th. The 37th Guards Rifle Division arrived as reinforcements for the 62nd Army on the 15th-16th September with at least 10k men, and had "a few hundred" left on the 15th of October. The 95th Rifle division arrived as reinforcements in late September with 7k men and the surviving 500 were evacuated on the 14th of October. And last but not least, the 193rd Rifle Division arrived on the 27th-28th September with 5k and by the 8th of October had 350.
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