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** [[spoiler:The irony in all this is that it's revealed that Lelouch and Nunnally are actually the children Charles loves the most. This is mainly by virtue of the fact that they are the only children he had with the only one of his 108 consorts that he loved: Marianne vi Britannia, who is revealed to be alive (albeit via GrandTheftMe) and in on his AssimilationPlot. However, as pointed out by Lelouch, all his love for his favorite children means diddly-squat since he focused more on his own goals and never once bothered to actually ''show'' he cared for them]].

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** [[spoiler:The The irony in all this is that it's revealed that Lelouch [[spoiler:Lelouch and Nunnally are actually the children Charles loves the most. This is mainly by virtue of the fact that they are the only children he had with the only one of his 108 consorts that he loved: Marianne vi Britannia, who is revealed to be alive (albeit via GrandTheftMe) and in on his AssimilationPlot. However, as pointed out by Lelouch, all his love for his favorite children means diddly-squat since he focused more on his own goals and never once bothered to actually ''show'' he cared for them]].



** At ''End of Evangelion'' Gendo finally reveals he abandoned Shinji because he was frightened that he would be would be a bad parent to Shinji if he tried to raise him alone, and he did not want to get him involved with his and SEELE's war.
** ''Anime/RebuildOfEvangelion'' plays with this one. For a moment it seems that Gendo is actually nicer in this version, actually paying his son a genuine compliment after a tough battle. Shinji looks like he just gained the whole world after this, [[spoiler:which makes the revelation that it was all an act hurt that much more so than the original. Gendo is only acting nice with his son to manipulate him into ending the world]].

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** At During ''End of Evangelion'' Evangelion'', Gendo finally reveals he abandoned Shinji because he was frightened that he would be would be a bad parent to Shinji if he tried to raise him alone, and he did not want to get him involved with his and SEELE's war.
** ''Anime/RebuildOfEvangelion'' plays with this one. For a moment it seems that Gendo is actually nicer in this version, actually paying his son a genuine compliment after a tough battle. Shinji looks like he just gained the whole world after this, [[spoiler:which makes the revelation that it was all an act hurt that much more so than the original. Gendo is only acting nice with his son to manipulate him into ending the world]].world.]]



** [[spoiler:Vinsmoke Reiju has a similar relationship with their father, though unlike Sanji, she was modified to obey him absolutely. It's very telling that when she is told about a plot to murder her family, she immediately [[DeathSeeker decides to just let it happen]], with the only exception being Sanji since he's the WhiteSheep of the clan.]]
* Downplayed and PlayedForLaughs in ''Manga/RanmaOneHalf'': in a very real sense, Genma Saotome is responsible for everything wrong in Ranma Saotome's life, and Ranma never fails to remind him of this. Genma dragged Ranma away from his mother as a child to begin WalkingTheEarth in a decade-plus long TrainingFromHell regimen so he would become a strong martial artist worthy to take up the duties of his ArrangedMarriage to a daughter from the Tendo family -- an ArrangedMarriage he literally never tells Ranma about until they are an hour or so from the Tendo household. Over the course of those years, he sells Ranma's hand in marriage for food, subjects him to a DangerousForbiddenTechnique that leaves Ranma permanently [[WhyDidItHaveToBeSnakes utterly terrified of cats]], repeatedly stole Ranma's food, and ultimately got him {{curse}}d to [[InvoluntaryTransformation involuntarily]] [[GenderBender turn into a girl when splashed with cold water]]. Oh, and as part of dragging Ranma away from his mother, Genma promised her that they'd both commit {{seppuku}} if they met and she judged he had failed to make Ranma a "man amongst men", which they are initially ''terrified'' his curse makes for a de-facto failure. During the events of the series, the two erupt into spontaneous brawls whenever Genma says or does something stupid or causes problems, which is constantly.

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** [[spoiler:Vinsmoke Reiju Reiju]] has a similar relationship with their father, though unlike Sanji, she [[spoiler:she was modified to obey him absolutely. It's very telling that when she is told about a plot to murder her family, she immediately [[DeathSeeker decides to just let it happen]], with the only exception being Sanji since he's the WhiteSheep of the clan.]]
clan]].
* Downplayed {{Downplayed|Trope}} and PlayedForLaughs in ''Manga/RanmaOneHalf'': in In a very real sense, Genma Saotome is responsible for everything wrong in Ranma Saotome's life, and Ranma never fails to remind him of this. Genma dragged Ranma away from his mother as a child to begin WalkingTheEarth in a decade-plus long TrainingFromHell regimen so he would become a strong martial artist worthy to take up the duties of his ArrangedMarriage to a daughter from the Tendo family -- an ArrangedMarriage he literally never tells Ranma about until they are an hour or so from the Tendo household. Over the course of those years, he sells Ranma's hand in marriage for food, subjects him to a DangerousForbiddenTechnique that leaves Ranma permanently [[WhyDidItHaveToBeSnakes utterly terrified of cats]], repeatedly stole Ranma's food, and ultimately got him {{curse}}d to [[InvoluntaryTransformation involuntarily]] [[GenderBender turn into a girl when splashed with cold water]]. Oh, and as part of dragging Ranma away from his mother, Genma promised her that they'd both commit {{seppuku}} if they met and she judged he had failed to make Ranma a "man amongst men", which they are initially ''terrified'' his curse makes for a de-facto failure. During the events of the series, the two erupt into spontaneous brawls whenever Genma says or does something stupid or causes problems, which is constantly.



* ''Anime/VoltesV'': [[spoiler:Prince Heinel's father is none other than Kentaro Go/Prince Gohl. None of them know this until the GrandFinale, where Heinel cries upon realizing he's been fighting his father all along]]. According to the Literature/RomanRoboAnimeClimaxSelection, this was done deliberately.

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* ''Anime/VoltesV'': [[spoiler:Prince Heinel's father is none other than Kentaro Go/Prince Gohl. None of them know this until the GrandFinale, where Heinel cries upon realizing he's been fighting his father all along]]. along.]] According to the Literature/RomanRoboAnimeClimaxSelection, ''Literature/RomanRoboAnimeClimaxSelection'', this was done deliberately.



* Inverted with ''ComicBook/SpiderMan''. His ArchEnemy, the [[ComicBook/NormanOsborn Green Goblin]], is not this, but a major development of the last decade or so is that he more or less imagines he is, seeing Peter -- a smart, brave, capable self-made man -- as a better son than his own child, Harry. On an older level, Peter's search for a father figure is one of the underlying themes of the comic, and the idea that Osborn -- as well as other enemies like Doctor Octopus -- are twisted inversions of this has been around for a while.
** This is also played with in ''ComicBook/UltimateSpiderMan'', where Osborn's military research (including pieces of Peter's parents' research) leads directly to Peter gaining his powers. And Miles Morales, the new Ultimate Spider-Man, got his powers from a stolen spider from Osborn's lab. Osborn keeps unintentionally birthing Spider-Men.

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* Inverted with ''ComicBook/SpiderMan''. His ArchEnemy, the [[ComicBook/NormanOsborn Green Goblin]], In ''ComicBook/AllFallDown'', we have IQ to his son, IQ Squared.
* The current page image
is not this, but a major development of the last decade or so is that he more or less imagines he is, seeing Peter -- a smart, brave, capable self-made man -- as a better son than Black Manta and his son, Aqualad. Black Manta has vowed to one day gut his own child, Harry. On an older level, Peter's search for a father figure is one of the underlying themes of the comic, and the idea that Osborn -- as well as other enemies son like Doctor Octopus -- are twisted inversions of this has been around for a while.
** This is also played with in ''ComicBook/UltimateSpiderMan'', where Osborn's military research (including pieces of Peter's parents' research) leads directly
fish just to Peter gaining his powers. And Miles Morales, the new Ultimate Spider-Man, got his powers from a stolen spider from Osborn's lab. Osborn keeps unintentionally birthing Spider-Men.torment ComicBook/{{Aquaman}}.



* In the 1970s, Marvel comics created a character named ComicBook/ShangChi, whose father just so happened to be the evil Dr. Literature/FuManchu (although they can't actually call him that anymore for [[ExiledFromContinuity copyright reasons]]).



* ComicBook/LadyDeath's father is not exactly Father of the Year material, serving as a recurring antagonist and being more or less responsible for her current condition. A corrupt FeudalOverlord who oppressed his peasants, forcing them to fight in the Crusades all while secretly practicing black magic and worshiping demons, as well as having sacrificed his wife (Lady Death's mother) many years ago. When his people rose in rebellion against him, he summoned demons to take him to Hell leaving his daughter behind to be burned at the stake. He would wage war against {{Satan}} for control of Hell and clash with Lady Death many times. He is less of this trope in the Avatar continuity, that has follows the same backstory, but places him in a positive light, being a loving father and husband. [[spoiler:And it's revealed that he was under a demon's possession, therefore not responsible for his actions.]]
* ''ComicBook/{{Lucifer}}'' casts the conflict between the titular character and {{God}} (often referred to as Yahweh) as a much more intimate father-son conflict than the usual epic good-versus-evil depiction.
* ''ComicBook/NewGods'': At the end of the war between New Genesis and Apokolips, rulers Highfather and {{ComicBook/Darkseid}} exchanged their baby sons as part of the peace treaty. Darkseid's son, Orion, was raised a hero (albeit one with anger issues), who plays this about as straight as possible, sometimes going after Darkseid even against the wishes of his adopted father.
* In ''ComicBook/PrinceOfPersiaTheGraphicNovel'', Shirin leaves her home to join LaResistance, and rebels against her father in every sense.



* The Pride in ''ComicBook/{{Runaways}}'' is made up of six pairs of Archnemesis Dads and {{Evil Matriarch}}s. In a mild subversion, The Pride honestly believe that they are doing the best they can for their children: by destroying the world and allowing the [[GreaterScopeVillain Gibborim]] to remake it, they will be handing their children paradise. With [[TheMole one exception]], the kids don't agree, and their interference ultimately leads to the deaths of all The Pride's members.



* The current page image is of Black Manta and his son, Aqualad. Black Manta has vowed to one day gut his own son like a fish just to torment ComicBook/{{Aquaman}}.
* The Pride in ''ComicBook/{{Runaways}}'' is made up of six pairs of Archnemesis Dads and {{Evil Matriarch}}s. In a mild subversion, The Pride honestly believe that they are doing the best they can for their children: by destroying the world and allowing the [[GreaterScopeVillain Gibborim]] to remake it, they will be handing their children paradise. With [[TheMole one exception]], the kids don't agree, and their interference ultimately leads to the deaths of all The Pride's members.
* At the end of the war between [[ComicBook/NewGods New Genesis and Apokolips,]] rulers Highfather and {{ComicBook/Darkseid}} exchanged their baby sons as part of the peace treaty. Darkseid's son, Orion, was raised a hero (albeit one with anger issues), who plays this about as straight as possible, sometimes going after Darkseid even against the wishes of his adopted father.
* In ''ComicBook/AllFallDown'', we have IQ to his son, IQ Squared.
* In ''ComicBook/PrinceOfPersiaTheGraphicNovel'', Shirin leaves her home to join LaResistance, and rebels against her father in every sense.

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* The current page image In the 1970s, Marvel comics created a character named ComicBook/ShangChi, whose father just so happened to be the evil Dr. Literature/FuManchu (although they can't actually call him that anymore for [[ExiledFromContinuity copyright reasons]]).
* {{Inverted|Trope}} with ''ComicBook/SpiderMan''. His ArchEnemy, the [[ComicBook/NormanOsborn Green Goblin]],
is not this, but a major development of Black Manta the last decade or so is that he more or less imagines he is, seeing Peter -- a smart, brave, capable self-made man -- as a better son than his own child, Harry. On an older level, Peter's search for a father figure is one of the underlying themes of the comic, and the idea that Osborn -- as well as other enemies like Doctor Octopus -- are twisted inversions of this has been around for a while.
** This is also PlayedWith in ''ComicBook/UltimateSpiderMan'', where Osborn's military research (including pieces of Peter's parents' research) leads directly to Peter gaining
his son, Aqualad. Black Manta has vowed to one day gut powers. And Miles Morales, the new Ultimate Spider-Man, got his powers from a stolen spider from Osborn's lab. Osborn keeps unintentionally birthing Spider-Men.
* ''ComicBook/StrontiumDog'': Johnny Alpha's father Nelson Kreelman is a racist politician who abused and ultimately locked
his own son like a fish just to torment ComicBook/{{Aquaman}}.
* The Pride in ''ComicBook/{{Runaways}}'' is made
up of six pairs of Archnemesis Dads for his mutation, and {{Evil Matriarch}}s. In leads a mild subversion, The Pride honestly believe that they are doing the best they can for [[ANaziByAnyOtherName Nazi-like anti-mutant movement]].
* ''ComicBook/{{Supergirl}}'': [[spoiler:Zor-El]] becomes this to [[spoiler:his daughter Kara]] in ''ComicBook/SupergirlRebirth'' after turning into [[spoiler:Cyborg Superman]] and getting obsessed with getting
their children: by destroying the world back and allowing setting things "right", no matter the [[GreaterScopeVillain Gibborim]] to remake it, they will be handing their children paradise. With [[TheMole one exception]], cost. (This wasn't ''quite'' the kids don't agree, case in his ''ComicBook/{{Supergirl2011}}'' appearances, where he was more of a CriminalAmnesiac, and their interference ultimately leads to neither of them realised the deaths of all The Pride's members.
* At the end of the war between [[ComicBook/NewGods New Genesis and Apokolips,]] rulers Highfather and {{ComicBook/Darkseid}} exchanged their baby sons as part of the peace treaty. Darkseid's son, Orion, was raised a hero (albeit one with anger issues), who plays this about as straight as possible, sometimes going after Darkseid even against the wishes of his adopted father.
* In ''ComicBook/AllFallDown'', we have IQ to his son, IQ Squared.
* In ''ComicBook/PrinceOfPersiaTheGraphicNovel'', Shirin leaves her home to join LaResistance, and rebels against her father in every sense.
connection until afterwards.)



* ''ComicBook/{{Supergirl}}'': [[spoiler:Zor-El]] becomes this to [[spoiler:his daughter Kara]] in ''ComicBook/SupergirlRebirth'' after turning into [[spoiler:Cyborg Superman]] and getting obsessed with getting their world back and setting things "right", no matter the cost. (This wasn't ''quite'' the case in his ''ComicBook/{{Supergirl2011}}'' appearances, where he was more of a CriminalAmnesiac, and neither of them realised the connection until afterwards.)
* ''ComicBook/{{Lucifer}}'' casts the conflict between the titular character and {{God}} (often referred to as Yahweh) as a much more intimate father-son conflict than the usual epic good-versus-evil depiction.
* ''ComicBook/TeenTitans'' has Trigon the Terrible, [[DemonLordsAndArchdevils interdimensional demon lord]] and father of Titans' member Raven. Having raped her mother to impregnate her, Trigon later mounts a series of psychic assaults on Raven, ultimately brainwashing her into serving him and using her psyche as the portal through which he enters the real world.
* ''ComicBook/StrontiumDog'': Johnny Alpha's father Nelson Kreelman is a racist politician who abused and ultimately locked his own son up for his mutation, and leads a [[ANaziByAnyOtherName Nazi-like anti-mutant movement]].
* ComicBook/LadyDeath's father is not exactly Father of the Year material, serving as a recurring antagonist and being more or less responsible for her current condition. A corrupt FeudalOverlord who oppressed his peasants, forcing them to fight in the Crusades all while secretly practicing black magic and worshiping demons, as well as having sacrificed his wife (Lady Death's mother) many years ago. When his people rose in rebellion against him, he summoned demons to take him to Hell leaving his daughter behind to be burned at the stake. He would wage war against {{Satan}} for control of Hell and clash with Lady Death many times. He is less of this trope in the Avatar continuity, that has follows the same backstory, but places him in a positive light, being a loving father and husband. [[spoiler: And it's revealed that he was under a demon's possession, therefore not responsible for his actions.]]

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* ''ComicBook/{{Supergirl}}'': [[spoiler:Zor-El]] becomes this to [[spoiler:his daughter Kara]] in ''ComicBook/SupergirlRebirth'' after turning into [[spoiler:Cyborg Superman]] and getting obsessed with getting their world back and setting things "right", no matter the cost. (This wasn't ''quite'' the case in his ''ComicBook/{{Supergirl2011}}'' appearances, where he was more of a CriminalAmnesiac, and neither of them realised the connection until afterwards.)
* ''ComicBook/{{Lucifer}}'' casts the conflict between the titular character and {{God}} (often referred to as Yahweh) as a much more intimate father-son conflict than the usual epic good-versus-evil depiction.
* ''ComicBook/TeenTitans'' has Trigon the Terrible, [[DemonLordsAndArchdevils interdimensional demon lord]] and father of Titans' member Raven. Having raped her mother to impregnate her, Trigon later mounts a series of psychic assaults on Raven, ultimately brainwashing her into serving him and using her psyche as the portal through which he enters the real world. \n* ''ComicBook/StrontiumDog'': Johnny Alpha's father Nelson Kreelman is a racist politician who abused and ultimately locked his own son up for his mutation, and leads a [[ANaziByAnyOtherName Nazi-like anti-mutant movement]].\n* ComicBook/LadyDeath's father is not exactly Father of the Year material, serving as a recurring antagonist and being more or less responsible for her current condition. A corrupt FeudalOverlord who oppressed his peasants, forcing them to fight in the Crusades all while secretly practicing black magic and worshiping demons, as well as having sacrificed his wife (Lady Death's mother) many years ago. When his people rose in rebellion against him, he summoned demons to take him to Hell leaving his daughter behind to be burned at the stake. He would wage war against {{Satan}} for control of Hell and clash with Lady Death many times. He is less of this trope in the Avatar continuity, that has follows the same backstory, but places him in a positive light, being a loving father and husband. [[spoiler: And it's revealed that he was under a demon's possession, therefore not responsible for his actions.]]



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** After a while Rei herself regards Gendo as a threat whose plans would destroy her best friends' relationship.

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** After a while while, Rei herself regards Gendo as a threat whose plans would destroy her best friends' relationship.



* ''Fanfic/DoingItRightThisTime'': Subverted. When he returned to the past, Shinji thought he would have to find some way to stop his father's plans. When he and Asuka arrived at Tokyo-3, though, it turned out that Rei had confronted Gendo and revealed that they were time-travellers and his plans would fail, not matter what. Ergo, Gendo lost his motivation to oppose to them.

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* ''Fanfic/DoingItRightThisTime'': Subverted.{{Subverted|Trope}}. When he returned to the past, Shinji thought he would have to find some way to stop his father's plans. When he and Asuka arrived at Tokyo-3, though, it turned out that Rei had confronted Gendo and revealed that they were time-travellers and his plans would fail, not matter what. Ergo, Gendo lost his motivation to oppose to them.



* In ''[[Fanfic/LivingTheDreamKickass222urmom Living The Dream]]'', Frederic and his father Richard have a violent history. Back on Earth, Frederic was forced into joining the Canadian Mob by his father. When Frederic tried to go to the police, Richard had him beaten and [[OffingTheOffspring executed]] for his unwillingness to join the family business. After the [[CaughtUpInTheRapture Rapture]], Richard wanted to go to wherever Frederic chose as his paradise, with the sole reason being that he wanted to kill him a second time.

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* In ''[[Fanfic/LivingTheDreamKickass222urmom Living ''Fanfic/{{Living The Dream]]'', Dream|Kickass222urmom}}'', Frederic and his father Richard have a violent history. Back on Earth, Frederic was forced into joining the Canadian Mob by his father. When Frederic tried to go to the police, Richard had him beaten and [[OffingTheOffspring executed]] for his unwillingness to join the family business. After the [[CaughtUpInTheRapture Rapture]], Richard wanted to go to wherever Frederic chose as his paradise, with the sole reason being that he wanted to kill him a second time.



* On a similar note, in ''FanFic/MyLittleMagesTheNightmaresReturn'', TheDragon -- the Grand Master of the [[{{Cult}} Shadow Blades Order]] -- turns out to be [[spoiler:Pinkie Pie]]'s father Clydesdale. That being said, and despite the fact that they come to blows, they still [[EvenEvilHasLovedOnes care about each other]], and he wishes she'd stop all this [[WhiteSheep heroic nonsense]] and [[WeCanRuleTogether come home]].

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* On a similar note, in ''FanFic/MyLittleMagesTheNightmaresReturn'', ''Fanfic/MyLittleMagesTheNightmaresReturn'', TheDragon -- the Grand Master of the [[{{Cult}} Shadow Blades Order]] -- turns out to be [[spoiler:Pinkie Pie]]'s father Clydesdale. That being said, and despite the fact that they come to blows, they still [[EvenEvilHasLovedOnes care about each other]], and he wishes she'd stop all this [[WhiteSheep heroic nonsense]] and [[WeCanRuleTogether come home]].



* [[spoiler:Ash's father]] in ''Fanfic/PokemonResetBloodlines'' is [[TheSociopath a sociopathic]] SuperSupremacist who seeks to TakeOverTheWorld. For that purpose [[ReallyGetsAround he sired]] ''[[ReallyGetsAround hundreds]]'' [[ReallyGetsAround of bastard children all over the world]], and is more than willing to [[OffingTheOffspring kill them]] [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness if they're not of use to him]]. Obviously [[spoiler:Ash]] is ''not'' happy to learn about it.

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* [[spoiler:Ash's father]] in ''Fanfic/PokemonResetBloodlines'' is [[TheSociopath a sociopathic]] SuperSupremacist who seeks to TakeOverTheWorld. For that purpose [[ReallyGetsAround he sired]] ''[[ReallyGetsAround hundreds]]'' [[ReallyGetsAround of bastard children all over the world]], and is more than willing to [[OffingTheOffspring kill them]] if [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness if they're not of use to him]]. Obviously [[spoiler:Ash]] is ''not'' happy to learn about it.



* ''{{Film/Sorceress}}'': Traigon is the mortal enemy of his daughters Mara and Mira, since he plans to sacrifice the eldest for power.

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* ''{{Film/Sorceress}}'': ''Film/{{Sorceress}}'': Traigon is the mortal enemy of his daughters Mara and Mira, since he plans to sacrifice the eldest for power.



* The father in "I'm Bugged At My Old Man" from Music/TheBeachBoys' album ''Music/SummerDaysAndSummerNights'' certainly has tyrannical streak to him. At first he seems like a typical strict father, since [[YouAreGrounded he makes the protagonist stay in his room]] and he is mad when he comes in a little late. But as the song progresses he almost seems like a dictator. He sells his son's surfboard, cuts off his hair in his sleep, tacked up boards on his window so he can't look outside, jerked his phone out of the wall when his son tried to call up his girlfriend, stole his radio and to top it all off he is out eating steak, while his son just gets [[DeniedFoodAsPunishment some breadcrumbs and a little glass of water for dinner]]! Though the last line does turn tables as it reveals that all this might just be a severe punishment for the fact that the boy got suspended from school.

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* The father in "I'm Bugged At My Old Man" from Music/TheBeachBoys' album ''Music/SummerDaysAndSummerNights'' certainly has a tyrannical streak to him. At first he seems like a typical strict father, since [[YouAreGrounded he makes the protagonist stay in his room]] and he is mad when he comes in a little late. But as the song progresses he almost seems like a dictator. He sells his son's surfboard, cuts off his hair in his sleep, tacked up boards on his window so he can't look outside, jerked his phone out of the wall when his son tried to call up his girlfriend, stole his radio and to top it all off he is out eating steak, while his son just gets [[DeniedFoodAsPunishment some breadcrumbs and a little glass of water for dinner]]! Though the last line does turn tables as it reveals that all this might just be a severe punishment for the fact that the boy got suspended from school.



* One of the main villains of ''Franchise/BlazBlue'' is Carl's father and personal antagonist Relius Clover, who turned Carl's sister into the machine known as Nirvana. [[spoiler:Relius used the knowledge from that experiment to make a new and improved version of Nirvana, harvesting Carl's mother in the process. When Carl finally finds and confronts him in ''[[VideoGame/BlazBlueContinuumShift Continuum Shift]]''[='s=] story mode, Relius [[OffingTheOffspring tries to kill him]] for [[CallingTheOldManOut calling him out]].]] Needless to say, they aren't on good terms.
* In the ''Franchise/{{Castlevania}}'' series, when Dracula's human wife Lisa was burned as a witch, he went on a RoaringRampageOfRevenge against humanity. However, their son Adrian chose to honor his mother's last request not to hate humans, and took the name "Alucard" to show his opposition to his father's ways.
* In ''VideoGame/DantesInferno'', the protagonist's father, Alighiero, was a corrupt and greedy nobleman that ended up sentenced to Hell upon dying and was turned into a grotesque demon of Greed, who is fought by Dante as a boss fight in the fourth level.
* ''VideoGame/Destiny2'': Empress Caiatl of the Cabal empire has long despised her father, Emperor Calus, for his venality, corruption, and ItsAllAboutMe attitude. In one anecdote, Caiatl describes how Calus ''killed her dog'' because he felt she was paying more attention to it than to him. As such, she willingly participated in the Midnight Coup that overthrew Calus for his protégée Ghaul and exiled him far from the empire. In turn, Caiatl is Calus's greatest fear -- specifically, his fear that her achievements will one day overshadow his, leaving him forgotten by history.
* ''VideoGame/DevilMayCry3DantesAwakening'' has Lady's story arc, where she seeks revenge against her father Arkham for killing her mother, Kalina Ann, to try and turn himself into a devil and gain the power of Sparda.



* Every generation of ''Franchise/{{Tekken}}'''s Mishima clan, starting with Kazuya, has this issue. Jinpachi was a nice enough guy, but Heihachi [[AntagonisticOffspring hated him anyways]], starting a vicious cycle of hate with ''his'' own son Kazuya. In fact, the main plot of the ''Tekken'' series exists because the Mishimas all hate and fight their fathers [[HeWhoFightsMonsters until they turn corrupt themselves]]. So far, the only exception to this rule seems to be [[spoiler:Heihachi's bastard son Lars]].
* In ''VideoGame/{{Psychonauts}}'', the final boss of Raz and [[spoiler:Coach Oleander]]'s minds are their grotesque antagonistic fathers. In Raz's case, [[spoiler:[[{{Pun}} it's all in his head]] -- his real dad shows up and [[PapaWolf helps him defeat the monster]]]].

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* Every generation Rock Howard, the son of ''Franchise/{{Tekken}}'''s Mishima clan, starting ''VideoGame/FatalFury'' BigBad Geese, has a burning vendetta against his father for leaving his mother alone and with Kazuya, has nothing while he lived lavishly as the crime emperor of South Town. However this issue. Jinpachi ultimately comes to naught in the canon of ''Fatal Fury'' as Geese fell to his death several years before Rock was a nice old enough guy, but Heihachi [[AntagonisticOffspring hated to get his revenge (instead he grows up around Terry Bogard who hopes to impart a better example for him anyways]], starting a vicious cycle than his real father). Outside of hate with ''his'' own son Kazuya. In fact, the main plot of the ''Tekken'' series exists because the Mishimas all hate ''Fatal Fury'' canon, where Geese and fight Rock are able to face each other (be it in-canon, such as ''VideoGame/TheKingOfFighters'', or a DreamMatchGame such as ''[[VideoGame/CapcomVsSNK2MarkOfTheMillennium Capcom vs. SNK 2]]''), they are typically given a special pre-fight exchange to highlight their fathers [[HeWhoFightsMonsters until they turn corrupt themselves]]. So far, animosity. Hypocritcally, Geese himself has a similar reason to hate his own father (leaving him and his mother to accept his place at the only exception head of a wealthy European family) and even tried to this rule seems kill him (only to be [[spoiler:Heihachi's bastard son Lars]].
* In ''VideoGame/{{Psychonauts}}'',
stopped by his half-brother Wolfgang Krauser, the final boss of Raz and [[spoiler:Coach Oleander]]'s minds are their grotesque antagonistic fathers. In Raz's case, [[spoiler:[[{{Pun}} it's all in his head]] -- his real dad shows up and [[PapaWolf helps him defeat the monster]]]].''Fatal Fury 2'').



* ''VideoGame/KirbysDreamLand3'': [[spoiler:Zero,]] the creator of Dark Matter, also created [[TokenHeroicOrc Gooey]], who became a friend of Kirby and joined him to destroy his brethren from conquering Planet Popstar.
* Lemeza and Shawn Kosugi's relationship before and during ''VideoGame/LaMulana'' is pretty rocky. Shawn essentially dumped his son on his own father to look for the fabled ruins of La-Mulana, and when Lemeza grew up and took up archaeology, they became bitter professional rivals, which was not helped by Shawn poaching Lemeza's work. This animosity manages to get the game started -- Lemeza's original main reason for coming to La-Mulana was because his father taunted him about finding the ruins first -- and carries on to the ending [[spoiler:wherein Shawn waits for Lemeza to do all the hard work involved in getting the greatest treasure of the ruins and then ''steals it from his own son'']].



* One of the main villains of ''Franchise/BlazBlue'' is Carl's father and personal antagonist Relius Clover, who turned Carl's sister into the machine known as Nirvana. [[spoiler:Relius used the knowledge from that experiment to make a new and improved version of Nirvana, harvesting Carl's mother in the process. When Carl finally finds and confronts him in ''[[VideoGame/BlazBlueContinuumShift Continuum Shift]]''[='s=] story mode, Relius [[OffingTheOffspring tries to kill him]] for [[CallingTheOldManOut calling him out]]]]. Needless to say, they aren't on good terms.



* Lemeza and Shawn Kosugi's relationship before and during VideoGame/LaMulana is pretty rocky. Shawn essentially dumped his son on his own father to look for the fabled ruins of La-Mulana, and when Lemeza grew up and took up archaeology, they became bitter professional rivals, which was not helped by Shawn poaching Lemeza's work. This animosity manages to get the game started -- Lemeza's original main reason for coming to La-Mulana was because his father taunted him about finding the ruins first -- and carries on to the ending [[spoiler:wherein Shawn waits for Lemeza to do all the hard work involved in getting the greatest treasure of the ruins and then ''steals it from his own son''.]]
* Ivy Valentine in the ''VideoGame/SoulSeries''. She despises her demonic father Cervantes (given the fact that her cursed existence is his fault), and he did try, more than once, to consume her soul to gain power. [[spoiler:Before the events of ''V'', however, she finally defeated him, not only reclaiming her own soul, but also all the souls he had ever devoured. But he still lives. (Well, not "alive", since he's still an undead being, but he's still around.)]]
* In the ''Franchise/{{Castlevania}}'' series, when Dracula's human wife Lisa was burned as a witch, he went on a RoaringRampageOfRevenge against humanity. However, their son Adrian chose to honor his mother's last request not to hate humans, and took the name "Alucard" to show his opposition to his father's ways.



* In ''VideoGame/DantesInferno'', the protagonist's father, Alighiero, was a corrupt and greedy nobleman that ended up sentenced to Hell upon dying and was turned into a grotesque demon of Greed, who is fought by Dante as a boss fight in the fourth level.
* Rock Howard, the son of ''VideoGame/FatalFury'' BigBad Geese, has a burning vendetta against his father for leaving his mother alone and with nothing while he lived lavishly as the crime emperor of South Town. However this ultimately comes to naught in the canon of ''Fatal Fury'' as Geese fell to his death several years before Rock was old enough to get his revenge (instead he grows up around Terry Bogard who hopes to impart a better example for him than his real father). Outside of ''Fatal Fury'' canon, where Geese and Rock are able to face each other (be it in-canon, such as ''VideoGame/TheKingOfFighters'', or a DreamMatchGame such as ''[[VideoGame/CapcomVsSNK2MarkOfTheMillennium Capcom vs. SNK 2]]''), they are typically given a special pre-fight exchange to highlight their animosity. Hypocritcally, Geese himself has a similar reason to hate his own father (leaving him and his mother to accept his place at the head of a wealthy European family) and even tried to kill him (only to be stopped by his half-brother Wolfgang Krauser, the final boss of ''Fatal Fury 2'').
* ''VideoGame/KirbysDreamLand3'': [[spoiler:Zero,]] the creator of Dark Matter, also created [[TokenHeroicOrc Gooey]], who became a friend of Kirby and joined him to destroy his brethren from conquering Planet Popstar.
* ''VideoGame/DevilMayCry3DantesAwakening'' has Lady's story arc, where she seeks revenge against her father Arkham for killing her mother, Kalina Ann, to try and turn himself into a devil and gain the power of Sparda.
* ''VideoGame/Destiny2'': Empress Caiatl of the Cabal empire has long despised her father, Emperor Calus, for his venality, corruption, and ItsAllAboutMe attitude. In one anecdote, Caiatl describes how Calus ''killed her dog'' because he felt she was paying more attention to it than to him. As such, she willingly participated in the Midnight Coup that overthrew Calus for his protégée Ghaul and exiled him far from the empire. In turn, Caiatl is Calus's greatest fear -- specifically, his fear that her achievements will one day overshadow his, leaving him forgotten by history.

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* In ''VideoGame/DantesInferno'', the protagonist's father, Alighiero, was a corrupt and greedy nobleman that ended up sentenced to Hell upon dying and was turned into a grotesque demon of Greed, who is fought by Dante as a boss fight in the fourth level.
* Rock Howard, the son of ''VideoGame/FatalFury'' BigBad Geese, has a burning vendetta against his father for leaving his mother alone and with nothing while he lived lavishly as the crime emperor of South Town. However this ultimately comes to naught in the canon of ''Fatal Fury'' as Geese fell to his death several years before Rock was old enough to get his revenge (instead he grows up around Terry Bogard who hopes to impart a better example for him than his real father). Outside of ''Fatal Fury'' canon, where Geese and Rock are able to face each other (be it in-canon, such as ''VideoGame/TheKingOfFighters'', or a DreamMatchGame such as ''[[VideoGame/CapcomVsSNK2MarkOfTheMillennium Capcom vs. SNK 2]]''), they are typically given a special pre-fight exchange to highlight their animosity. Hypocritcally, Geese himself has a similar reason to hate his own father (leaving him and his mother to accept his place at the head of a wealthy European family) and even tried to kill him (only to be stopped by his half-brother Wolfgang Krauser,
''VideoGame/{{Psychonauts}}'', the final boss of ''Fatal Fury 2'').
* ''VideoGame/KirbysDreamLand3'': [[spoiler:Zero,]]
Raz and [[spoiler:Coach Oleander]]'s minds are their grotesque antagonistic fathers. In Raz's case, [[spoiler:[[{{Pun}} it's all in his head]] -- his real dad shows up and [[PapaWolf helps him defeat the creator of Dark Matter, also created [[TokenHeroicOrc Gooey]], who became a friend of Kirby and joined him to destroy his brethren from conquering Planet Popstar.
monster]]]].
* ''VideoGame/DevilMayCry3DantesAwakening'' has Lady's story arc, where she seeks revenge against Ivy Valentine in the ''VideoGame/SoulSeries''. She despises her demonic father Arkham for killing her mother, Kalina Ann, to try and turn himself into a devil and gain Cervantes (given the power of Sparda.
* ''VideoGame/Destiny2'': Empress Caiatl of the Cabal empire has long despised her father, Emperor Calus, for his venality, corruption, and ItsAllAboutMe attitude. In one anecdote, Caiatl describes how Calus ''killed her dog'' because he felt she was paying more attention to it than to him. As such, she willingly participated in the Midnight Coup that overthrew Calus for his protégée Ghaul and exiled him far from the empire. In turn, Caiatl is Calus's greatest fear -- specifically, his fear
fact that her achievements will one day overshadow his, leaving cursed existence is his fault), and he did try, more than once, to consume her soul to gain power. [[spoiler:Before the events of ''V'', however, she finally defeated him, not only reclaiming her own soul, but also all the souls he had ever devoured. But he still lives. (Well, not "alive", since he's still an undead being, but he's still around.)]]
* Every generation of ''Franchise/{{Tekken}}'''s Mishima clan, starting with Kazuya, has this issue. Jinpachi was a nice enough guy, but Heihachi [[AntagonisticOffspring hated
him forgotten by history.anyways]], starting a vicious cycle of hate with ''his'' own son Kazuya. In fact, the main plot of the ''Tekken'' series exists because the Mishimas all hate and fight their fathers [[HeWhoFightsMonsters until they turn corrupt themselves]]. So far, the only exception to this rule seems to be [[spoiler:Heihachi's bastard son Lars]].



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* In ComicBook/LessThanThreeComics' Brat Pack, Firestorm's father abused him through his entire life, but the rest of the world only knows him as Napalm, one of America's greatest superheroes.
* Jobe of the ''Literature/WhateleyUniverse'' seems to be developing this relation with his father, supervillain Gizmatic, also known as King Wilkins of Karedonia.
* The Lore of ''WebVideo/TwitchPlaysPokemon'' had Alice trying to stop the machinations of Bill, whom the stream had decided was her father.


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* The Lore of ''WebVideo/TwitchPlaysPokemon'' had Alice trying to stop the machinations of Bill, whom the stream had decided was her father.
* Jobe of the ''Literature/WhateleyUniverse'' seems to be developing this relation with his father, supervillain Gizmatic, also known as King Wilkins of Karedonia.
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*''Anime/VoltesV'': [[spoiler:Prince Heinel's father is none other than Kentaro Go/Prince Gohl. None of them know this until the GrandFinale, where Heinel cries upon realizing he's been fighting his father all along]]. According to the Literature/RomanRoboAnimeClimaxSelection, this was done deliberately.
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* ''Series/{{Peacemaker}}'': Auggie Smith, the father of the titular hero Christopher Smith a.k.a. Peacemaker, is introduced as emotionally and physically {{Abusive|Parents}} towards his own son who also guilt trapped Chris for the death of his brother. Over the curse of the first season we learn Augie is the Neo Nazi-supervillain White Dragon. When his own interests start to clash with the mission of Chris' team, he decides to kill him. [[spoiler:Chris eventually gets to kill his father, but is still haunted by visions of him afterwards.]] While Augie isn't the BigBad in the series, he's the villain [[ItsPersonal to go directly under the hero's skin]].

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* ''Series/{{Peacemaker}}'': ''Series/{{Peacemaker|2022}}'': Auggie Smith, the father of the titular hero Christopher Smith a.k.a. Peacemaker, is introduced as emotionally and physically {{Abusive|Parents}} towards his own son who also guilt trapped Chris for the death of his brother. Over the curse of the first season we learn Augie is the Neo Nazi-supervillain White Dragon. When his own interests start to clash with the mission of Chris' team, he decides to kill him. [[spoiler:Chris eventually gets to kill his father, but is still haunted by visions of him afterwards.]] While Augie isn't the BigBad in the series, he's the villain [[ItsPersonal to go directly under the hero's skin]].
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* ''Literature/VillainsByNecessity'': It turns out that Mizzamir is Sam's birth father, the [[TheArchmage greatest wizard in the world]] who tries to stop his quest throughout the book. Sam was contracted to kill him, and does so by the end. Neither one knows the other's related to him before TheReveal in the finale, though. Even prior to his quest, Mizzamir had been the greatest threat to Sam as one of the last criminals, trying to [[BrainwashingForTheGreaterGood brainwash him into being a good citizen]] with magic.
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* Valentine Morgenstern in ''Literature/TheMortalInstruments'' reveals himself to be Clary and Jace's father at the end of the first book and continues to be their enemy for the rest of the first trilogy. However, it's later revealed that [[spoiler:he lied about being Jace's biological father, although he did raise him]].
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* ''VideoGame/DyztopiaPostHumanRPG'':
** Detritus-11 is an android "son" of President Zazz, but Zazz only created him to act as extra muscle and to make Zetacorp look good. He only sees Detritus as a tool and has already disposed of four other iterations of Detritus for questioning his orders. Naturally, [[spoiler:he has Akari kill Detritus for opposing the razing of Pon Pon Village, though Eliza secretly revives Detritus to help Akira defeat Zazz]].
** Prime Minister Morgalia supports Zeta's occupation of Vulcanite in order to gain political power for herself, which puts her at odds with her daughter Chase, who joined Akira's anti-Zetacorp cause. Even before that, Morgalia executed Chase's friends and boyfriend for opposing Zeta.
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** ''Anime/RebuildOfEvangelion'' plays with this one. For a moment it seems that Gendo is actually nicer in this version, actually paying his son a genuine compliment after a tough battle. Shinji looks like he just gained the whole world after this [[spoiler:which makes the revelation that it was all an act hurt that much moreso than the original. Gendo is only acting nice with his son to manipulate him into ending the world.]]
* ''Manga/OnePiece'': Sanji and his father, [[spoiler:Vinsmoke Judge. The man was an AbusiveParent, belittling Sanji at every turn for his weakness and compassion, while turning Sanji's quadruplet brothers into sociopathic {{Tykebomb}}s with his expeirments and enabling their bullying of their brother. When Sanji has his first confrontation with him in the present storyline, he tries to hold out some hope that his family has changed for the better, but when forced to face Judge in battle, he admits to himself that his father has never given him a single decent memory and that he only feels hatred towards him]].

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** ''Anime/RebuildOfEvangelion'' plays with this one. For a moment it seems that Gendo is actually nicer in this version, actually paying his son a genuine compliment after a tough battle. Shinji looks like he just gained the whole world after this this, [[spoiler:which makes the revelation that it was all an act hurt that much moreso more so than the original. Gendo is only acting nice with his son to manipulate him into ending the world.]]
world]].
* ''Manga/OnePiece'': Sanji and his father, [[spoiler:Vinsmoke Judge. The man was an AbusiveParent, {{Abusive Parent|s}}, belittling Sanji at every turn for his weakness and compassion, while turning Sanji's quadruplet brothers into sociopathic {{Tykebomb}}s with his expeirments experiments and enabling their bullying of their brother. When Sanji has his first confrontation with him in the present storyline, he tries to hold out some hope that his family has changed for the better, but when forced to face Judge in battle, he admits to himself that his father has never given him a single decent memory and that he only feels hatred towards him]].



** Roger Linus is a horribly physically and emotionally AbusiveParent to his son, Benjamin Linus, because he [[MaternalDeathBlameTheChild blames Ben for his mother's death in childbirth]]. Ben eventually murders Roger personally when he defects from the DHARMA Initiative to the Others.

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** Roger Linus is a horribly physically and emotionally AbusiveParent {{Abusive Parent|s}} to his son, Benjamin Linus, because he [[MaternalDeathBlameTheChild blames Ben for his mother's death in childbirth]]. Ben eventually murders Roger personally when he defects from the DHARMA Initiative to the Others.



* GenderFlipped in ''Anime/KillLaKill,'' in two ways--first [[DarkActionGirl Satsuki]], who seemed to be TheDragon to her mother [[BigBad Ragyo]], reveals that she was GoodAllAlong and has been planning her downfall since she was a little girl. [[AbusiveParents Ragyo has been known to molest her before and after this relevation]]. Then, in the more traditional twist, it turns out that Ragyo is [[TheHero Ryuko]]'s mother as well, who had her DeathFakedForYou by her father.

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* GenderFlipped [[GenderInvertedTrope Gender-inverted]] in ''Anime/KillLaKill,'' in two ways--first ways -- first [[DarkActionGirl Satsuki]], who seemed to be TheDragon to her mother [[BigBad Ragyo]], reveals that she was GoodAllAlong and has been planning her downfall since she was a little girl. [[AbusiveParents Ragyo has been known to molest her before and after this relevation]]. Then, in the more traditional twist, it turns out that Ragyo is [[TheHero Ryuko]]'s mother as well, who had her DeathFakedForYou by her father.
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* In ''VideoGame/BaldursGateIII'''s Act 2 you meet [[spoiler:BarrierMaiden Isobel Thorm, daughter of ArcVillain Ketheric Thorm. He made a DealWithTheDevil to bring her BackFromTheDead, but she wants nothing to do with him due to his becoming a monster as a result and aids the party in their efforts to end his eternal life]].
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* Every generation of ''VideoGame/{{Tekken}}'''s Mishima clan, starting with Kazuya, has this issue. Jinpachi was a nice enough guy, but Heihachi [[AntagonisticOffspring hated him anyways]], starting a vicious cycle of hate with ''his'' own son Kazuya. In fact, the main plot of the ''Tekken'' series exists because the Mishimas all hate and fight their fathers [[HeWhoFightsMonsters until they turn corrupt themselves]]. So far, the only exception to this rule seems to be [[spoiler:Heihachi's bastard son Lars]].

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* Every generation of ''VideoGame/{{Tekken}}'''s ''Franchise/{{Tekken}}'''s Mishima clan, starting with Kazuya, has this issue. Jinpachi was a nice enough guy, but Heihachi [[AntagonisticOffspring hated him anyways]], starting a vicious cycle of hate with ''his'' own son Kazuya. In fact, the main plot of the ''Tekken'' series exists because the Mishimas all hate and fight their fathers [[HeWhoFightsMonsters until they turn corrupt themselves]]. So far, the only exception to this rule seems to be [[spoiler:Heihachi's bastard son Lars]].



* ''Franchise/{{Tekken}}'': In the first two games, Kazuya's #1 archnemesis is his father Heihachi. In Part 3, Kazuya "died" and Heihachi was an Archnemesis ''Granddad'' to Jin. From ''Tekken 4'' onward, Heihachi is still the archnemesis to both Jin and Kazuya (who is BackFromTheDead) and Kazuya is an Archnemesis Dad to Jin, who hates them both.

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* ''Franchise/{{Tekken}}'': In the first two games, Kazuya's #1 archnemesis is his father Heihachi. In Part 3, Kazuya "died" and Heihachi was an Archnemesis ''Granddad'' to Jin. From ''Tekken 4'' ''VideoGame/Tekken4'' onward, Heihachi is still the archnemesis to both Jin and Kazuya (who is BackFromTheDead) and Kazuya is an Archnemesis Dad to Jin, who hates them both.
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* In ''Manga/UruseiYatsura'', within a minute of being introduced to Ryuunosuke and her father, said [[AbusiveParents father]] has knocked his [[{{Bifauxnen}} daughter]] to the ground [[WouldHitAGirl with a full-strength punch to the face]]. The crazed beach vendor WantedASonInstead, and has done his utmost to try and force Ryuunosuke to be as masculine as possible, starting with calling her one of the most macho names possible in Japanese and then keeping her from ever expressing or indulging her femininity in any form, from keeping her from learning [[OreOnna the feminine pronouns to use]] to denying her the right to wear feminine clothes, enforcing his will by beating her down in savage brawls. He insistently refers to her as a man, [[IRejectYourReality denying all evidence otherwise]] to the point of literally ignoring her breasts and ordering her to be assigned to the boy's physical education classes at Tomobiki High, acknowledging it only when he can either torment her with promises that he never intends to keep or when he stumbles upon a chance to [[GenderBender literally transform her into a boy]]. Being well ''aware'' that she's actually a girl and that her father is [[ItsAllAboutMe a self-obsessed lunatic]], Ryuunosuke utterly ''[[HatesTheirParent despises]]'' him. That said, their enmity is PlayedForLaughs.

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* In ''Manga/UruseiYatsura'', within a minute of being introduced to Ryuunosuke and her father, said [[AbusiveParents father]] has knocked his [[{{Bifauxnen}} daughter]] to the ground [[WouldHitAGirl with a full-strength punch to the face]].face. The crazed beach vendor WantedASonInstead, and has done his utmost to try and force Ryuunosuke to be as masculine as possible, starting with calling her one of the most macho names possible in Japanese and then keeping her from ever expressing or indulging her femininity in any form, from keeping her from learning [[OreOnna the feminine pronouns to use]] to denying her the right to wear feminine clothes, enforcing his will by beating her down in savage brawls. He insistently refers to her as a man, [[IRejectYourReality denying all evidence otherwise]] to the point of literally ignoring her breasts and ordering her to be assigned to the boy's physical education classes at Tomobiki High, acknowledging it only when he can either torment her with promises that he never intends to keep or when he stumbles upon a chance to [[GenderBender literally transform her into a boy]]. Being well ''aware'' that she's actually a girl and that her father is [[ItsAllAboutMe a self-obsessed lunatic]], Ryuunosuke utterly ''[[HatesTheirParent despises]]'' him. That said, their enmity is PlayedForLaughs.
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* ''WesternAnimation/ElTigre'': [PlayingWithATrope Played With]] with White Panthera and his father Pumo Loco. White Panthera is the only hero to have ever been able to defeat Pumo Loco, is often more mature than his father, and worried about the influence PL has on his son. Despite this, Rodolfo allows his father to live with him and Manny, and they seem to respect each other and not try to change their minds about where they stand on good and evil (thought the same can’t be said for how they raise Manny).

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* ''WesternAnimation/ElTigre'': [PlayingWithATrope [[PlayingWithATrope Played With]] with White Panthera and his father Pumo Loco. White Panthera is the only hero to have ever been able to defeat Pumo Loco, is often more mature than his father, and worried about the influence PL has on his son. Despite this, Rodolfo allows his father to live with him and Manny, and they seem to respect each other and not try to change their minds about where they stand on good and evil (thought the same can’t be said for how they raise Manny).
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* In ''VideoGame/BlazBlue'', one of the main villains of the game is Carl's father and personal antagonist Relius Clover, who turned Carl's sister into the machine known as Nirvana. [[spoiler:Relius used the knowledge from that experiment to make a new and improved version of Nirvana, harvesting Carl's mother in the process. When Carl finally finds and confronts him in ''Continuum Shift''[='s=] story mode, Relius [[OffingTheOffspring tries to kill him]] for [[CallingTheOldManOut calling him out]]]]. Needless to say, they aren't on good terms.

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* In ''VideoGame/BlazBlue'', one One of the main villains of the game ''Franchise/BlazBlue'' is Carl's father and personal antagonist Relius Clover, who turned Carl's sister into the machine known as Nirvana. [[spoiler:Relius used the knowledge from that experiment to make a new and improved version of Nirvana, harvesting Carl's mother in the process. When Carl finally finds and confronts him in ''Continuum Shift''[='s=] ''[[VideoGame/BlazBlueContinuumShift Continuum Shift]]''[='s=] story mode, Relius [[OffingTheOffspring tries to kill him]] for [[CallingTheOldManOut calling him out]]]]. Needless to say, they aren't on good terms.
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* [[CloningBlues Otto's]] "father", of the ''Literature/HIVESeries'' is Overlord, a homicidal AI who created a human vessel, his own son, to take over so that he would have a strong young body to rule the world with. Otto, for obvious reasons, isn't okay with Overlord's GrandTheftMe, so the two spend books three through six duking it out. Otto comes out on top, albeit with much emotional damage and longing for a family that isn't trying to kill him.

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* [[CloningBlues Otto's]] "father", of the ''Literature/HIVESeries'' ''Literature/HIVESeries'': Otto's "father" is Overlord, a homicidal AI who created a human vessel, his own son, to take over so that he would have a strong young body to rule the world with. Otto, for obvious reasons, isn't okay with Overlord's GrandTheftMe, so the two spend books three through six duking it out. Otto comes out on top, albeit with much emotional damage and longing for a family that isn't trying to kill him.
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* ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'': Zuko and Ozai. And during the eclipse, when Zuko renounces trying to be the son Ozai wants, Ozai reveals that he was willing to kill him when he was not even in his teens.

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* ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'': Zuko [[Characters/AvatarTheLastAirbenderZuko Prince Zuko]] and Ozai.[[Characters/AvatarTheLastAirbenderFireLordOzai Fire Lord Ozai]]. And during the eclipse, when Zuko renounces trying to be the son Ozai wants, Ozai reveals that he was willing to kill him when he was not even in his teens.



** The SequelSeries ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra'' adds Asami and Hiroshi. For an EvilVersusEvil example, there's also Amon and Yakone. Yup, Ozai pretty much started a pattern of bad fathers that gave the world more problems.
* ''WesternAnimation/ElTigre'': Played with with White Panthera and his father Pumo Loco. White Panthera is the only hero to have ever been able to defeat Pumo Loco, is often more mature than his father, and worried about the influence PL has on his son. Despite this, Rodolfo allows his father to live with him and Manny, and they seem to respect each other and not try to change their minds about where they stand on good and evil (thought the same can’t be said for how they raise Manny).

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** The SequelSeries ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra'' adds [[Characters/TheLegendOfKorraAsamiSato Asami Sato]] and Hiroshi. For an EvilVersusEvil example, there's also Amon and Yakone. Yup, Ozai pretty much started a pattern of bad fathers that gave the world more problems.
* ''WesternAnimation/ElTigre'': [PlayingWithATrope Played with With]] with White Panthera and his father Pumo Loco. White Panthera is the only hero to have ever been able to defeat Pumo Loco, is often more mature than his father, and worried about the influence PL has on his son. Despite this, Rodolfo allows his father to live with him and Manny, and they seem to respect each other and not try to change their minds about where they stand on good and evil (thought the same can’t be said for how they raise Manny).



* Maternal example in ''WesternAnimation/SamuraiJack'', where Ashi eventually regards her mother this way, [[spoiler: the enmity concluding with a battle to the death where Ashi slays her.]] She might also regard Aku as such, symbolically, seeing as she was raised as one of the [[ReligionOfEvil Daughters of Aku]].

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* Maternal example in ''WesternAnimation/SamuraiJack'', where Ashi [[Characters/SamuraiJackAshi Ashi]] eventually regards her mother this way, [[spoiler: the enmity concluding with a battle to the death where Ashi slays her.]] She might also regard Aku [[Characters/SamuraiJackAku Aku]] as such, symbolically, seeing as she was raised as one of the [[ReligionOfEvil Daughters of Aku]].



* [[WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons Homer]] kind of sums it up when he, Marge, and Bart are about to be [[ItMakesSenseInContext digested by a museum display.]]

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* [[WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons Homer]] ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'': [[Characters/TheSimpsonsHomerSimpson Homer Simpson]] kind of sums it up when he, Marge, and [[Characters/TheSimpsonsBartSimpson Bart Simpson]] are about to be [[ItMakesSenseInContext digested by a museum display.]]



* In ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitans2003'', Slade becomes an abusive father figure to both Robin and Terra, pressuring them into following in his footsteps and trying to cut them off from their friends. Both turn on him when he goes too far.
* In ''WesternAnimation/TheOwlHouse'', [[spoiler:Emperor Belos eventually becomes one to Hunter. While Belos is technically Hunter's uncle, Hunter was still raised by him and sees him as a father figure. However, "Hollow Mind" reveals that the feeling is very much ''not'' mutual, as Hunter turns out to be a Grimwalker, the latest in a long line of {{Expendable Clone}}s that Belos created as ReplacementGoldfish for his dead brother, only to murder them and start over with a new Grimwalker when they step out of line. When Hunter confronts him about this, Belos sees this as the start of his betrayal and tries to kill Hunter then and there. This forces Hunter to go on the run and eventually culminates in a HeelFaceTurn, meaning he joins the final fight against Belos in "King's Tide".]]

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* In ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitans2003'', Slade [[Characters/TeenTitans2003Slade Slade]] becomes an abusive father figure to both Robin and Terra, pressuring them into following in his footsteps and trying to cut them off from their friends. Both turn on him when he goes too far.
* In ''WesternAnimation/TheOwlHouse'', [[spoiler:Emperor Belos [[spoiler: [[Characters/TheOwlHouseEmperorBelos Emperor Belos]] eventually becomes one to Hunter.[[Characters/TheOwlHouseTheGoldenGuard Hunter]]. While Belos is technically Hunter's uncle, Hunter was still raised by him and sees him as a father figure. However, "Hollow Mind" "[[Recap/TheOwlHouseS2E16HollowMind Hollow Mind]]" reveals that the feeling is very much ''not'' mutual, as Hunter turns out to be a Grimwalker, the latest in a long line of {{Expendable Clone}}s that Belos created as ReplacementGoldfish for his dead brother, only to murder them and start over with a new Grimwalker when they step out of line. When Hunter confronts him about this, Belos sees this as the start of his betrayal and tries to kill Hunter then and there. This forces Hunter to go on the run and eventually culminates in a HeelFaceTurn, meaning he joins the final fight against Belos in "King's Tide"."[[Recap/TheOwlHouseS2E21KingsTide King's Tide]]".]]



* In ''WesternAnimation/MiraculousLadybug'', the BigBad Hawk Moth is eventually revealed to be [[spoiler:Gabriel Agreste, the father of Adrien Agreste a.k.a. his nemesis Cat Noir.]] Neither of them knows who the other is yet, but both of them have come close to figuring it out, only to be thrown off the trail. [[spoiler:For what it's worth, [[EvenEvilHasLovedOnes Gabriel is entirely unwilling to knowingly let Adrien get hurt, apart from in the episode Cat Blanc, where he mentally tortures and akumatizes him.]].]]

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* In ''WesternAnimation/MiraculousLadybug'', the BigBad [[Characters/MiraculousLadybugHawkMoth Hawk Moth Moth]] is eventually revealed to be [[spoiler:Gabriel Agreste, the father of [[Characters/MiraculousLadybugAdrienAgreste Adrien Agreste a.k.a. his nemesis Cat Noir.Noir]].]] Neither of them knows who the other is yet, but both of them have come close to figuring it out, only to be thrown off the trail. [[spoiler:For what it's worth, [[EvenEvilHasLovedOnes Gabriel is entirely unwilling to knowingly let Adrien get hurt, apart from in the episode Cat Blanc, where he mentally tortures and akumatizes him.]].]]
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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'': Tywin to Tyrion. Tywin despises his son for "killing" his beloved wife and being a whore-mongering dwarf, while Tyrion despises his father for treating him with contempt.

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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'': [[Characters/GameOfThronesTywinLannister Lord Tywin Lannister]] to Tyrion.[[Characters/GameOfThronesTyrionLannister Tyrion Lannister]]. Tywin despises his son for "killing" his beloved wife and being a whore-mongering dwarf, while Tyrion despises his father for treating him with contempt.
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* ''Literature/TheBloodGuard'': Ronan's dad is this to him, being the Head of the Bend Sinister, the ArchEnemies of the Blood Guard.




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* ''Literature/TheBeginningAfterTheEnd'': [[DelightfulDragon Sylvie]] is a double example. On one hand, her father is [[SatanicArchetype Agrona]], the [[MaouTheDemonKing Lord of the Vritra]] and the one responsible for instigating the DivineConflict that has led to the ruination of her bond (and ParentalSubstitute) Arthur's homeland of Dicathen. On the other hand, her grandfather [[GodIsEvil Kezess]] is a NotSoWellIntentionedExtremist tyrant whose genocide of the [[{{Precursors}} Djinn]] led to the StartOfDarkness for Agrona and his clan. And Arthur only learns about all of the above from the second message Sylvia (Sylvie's mother) left for him after Sylvie performed a HeroicSacrifice to save him.

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* [[DownplayedTrope Downplayed]] for Francis in ''Fanfic/FamilyGuyFanon''. Since Peter is this adaption is more willing to stand up to his father, Francis is quite confrontational to Peter. But they'll occasionally put aside their differences to solve a bigger problem.

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* [[DownplayedTrope Downplayed]] for Francis in ''Fanfic/FamilyGuyFanon''. ''Website/FamilyGuyFanon''. Since Peter is in this adaption is more willing to stand up to his father, Francis is quite confrontational to Peter. But they'll occasionally put aside their differences to solve a bigger problem.
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* ''VideoGame/KirbysDreamLand3'': [[spoiler:Zero,]] the creator of Dark Matter, also created [[TokenHeroicOrc Gooey]], who became a friend of Kirby and joined him to destroy his brethren from conquering Planet Popstar.

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* Downplayed and PlayedForLaughs in ''Manga/RanmaOneHalf'': in a very real sense, Genma Saotome is responsible for everything wrong in Ranma Saotome's life, and Ranma never fails to remind him of this. Genma dragged Ranma away from his mother as a child to begin WalkingTheEarth in a decade-plus long TrainingFromHell regimen so he would become a strong martial artist worthy to take up the duties of his ArrangedMarriage to a daughter from the Tendo family -- an ArrangedMarriage he literally never tells Ranma about until they are an hour or so from the Tendo household. Over the course of those years, he sells Ranma's hand in marriage for food, subjects him to a DangerousForbiddenTechnique that leaves Ranma permanently [[WhyDidItHaveToBeSnakes utterly terrified of cats]], repeatedly stole Ranma's food, and ultimately got him {{curse}}d to [[InvoluntaryTransformation involuntarily]] [[GenderBender turn into a girl when splashed with cold water]]. Oh, and as part of dragging Ranma away from his mother, Genma promised her that they'd both commit {{seppuku}} if they met and she judged he had failed to make Ranma a "man amongst men", which they are initially ''terrified'' his curse makes for a de-facto failure. During the events of the series, the two erupt into spontaneous brawls whenever Genma says or does something stupid or causes problems, which is constantly.



* In ''Manga/UruseiYatsura'', Ryuunosuke's father is quite insistent on [[BerserkButton treating the female Ryuunosuke like a man]], down to [[WouldHitAGirl violent fisticuffs and paralyzing poisons]] on a regular basis, and would only let her act feminine over his dead body. Ryuunosuke ''hates'' her father. Then again, it's PlayedForLaughs.

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* In ''Manga/UruseiYatsura'', Ryuunosuke's father is quite insistent on [[BerserkButton treating the female within a minute of being introduced to Ryuunosuke like a man]], down and her father, said [[AbusiveParents father]] has knocked his [[{{Bifauxnen}} daughter]] to the ground [[WouldHitAGirl violent fisticuffs with a full-strength punch to the face]]. The crazed beach vendor WantedASonInstead, and paralyzing poisons]] on a regular basis, has done his utmost to try and would only let her act feminine over his dead body. force Ryuunosuke ''hates'' to be as masculine as possible, starting with calling her father. Then again, it's one of the most macho names possible in Japanese and then keeping her from ever expressing or indulging her femininity in any form, from keeping her from learning [[OreOnna the feminine pronouns to use]] to denying her the right to wear feminine clothes, enforcing his will by beating her down in savage brawls. He insistently refers to her as a man, [[IRejectYourReality denying all evidence otherwise]] to the point of literally ignoring her breasts and ordering her to be assigned to the boy's physical education classes at Tomobiki High, acknowledging it only when he can either torment her with promises that he never intends to keep or when he stumbles upon a chance to [[GenderBender literally transform her into a boy]]. Being well ''aware'' that she's actually a girl and that her father is [[ItsAllAboutMe a self-obsessed lunatic]], Ryuunosuke utterly ''[[HatesTheirParent despises]]'' him. That said, their enmity is PlayedForLaughs.
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* In the ''Blog/BetterBonesAU'', Hawkwing, the protagonist of one of the rewritten Super Edition books, comes into conflict with his father Sharpclaw, who sides with Darktail (the cat trying to attack his Clan) due to being dissatisfied with his leader's progressive politics and acceptance of "daylight warriors".
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** Sun's father Paik Woo-Jong turns her husband into his personal enforcer, putting terrible strain on their marriage. When Sun has an affair with Jae Lee as a result, Paik harshly rebukes her for [[ItsAllAboutMe "dishonoring" him]], then tries to have Jin kill Jae Lee. Although Jin shows Jae mercy, he is still DrivenToSuicide, and Paik coldly mocks his daughter at the funeral. After returning home from the Island with the Oceanic Six, Sun gets her revenge by using her settlement from Oceanic Airlines to buy out her father's company.
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"You said Fates twice." "I meant Engage, okay?"


** In ''VideoGame/FireEmblemFates'', Sombron, the Fell Dragon, is the father of [[spoiler:the protagonist Alear, who was adopted by the Divine Dragon Lumera]]. He is also this to Veyle, who eventually joins the heroes to stop him.

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** In ''VideoGame/FireEmblemFates'', ''VideoGame/FireEmblemEngage'', Sombron, the Fell Dragon, is the father of [[spoiler:the protagonist Alear, who was adopted by the Divine Dragon Lumera]]. He is also this to Veyle, who eventually joins the heroes to stop him.
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* ''Film/BloodRayne'': Kagan is the enemy of his daughter Rayne, seeking to use her for himself. Rayne however wants revenge on him as he had murdered her mother years before.
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** In ''VideoGame/FireEmblemFates'', Sombron, the Fell Dragon, is the father of [[spoiler:the protagonist Alear, who was adopted by the Divine Dragon Lumera]]. He is also this to Veyle, who eventually joins the heroes to stop him.
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Compare OedipusComplex, the general archetype of patriarchal resentment (the father figure does not necessarily need to be an archnemesis in that one). Often the result of years of IHateYouVampireDad. Might overlap with LukeIAmYourFather. See AbusiveParents and ParentalNeglect for the more mundane version. See OffingTheOffspring and/or {{Patricide}} for what this might lead to. This may also explain why someone HatesTheirParent. A common subversion of the trope is the AnticlimacticParent reveal that usually shows the father as a rather harmless SitcomArchNemesis to their child rather than an actual antagonist. Sometimes this happens when the father is a NotoriousParent, as in most wanted by any or ''every'' authority.

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Compare OedipusComplex, ChildSupplantsParent, the general archetype of patriarchal resentment (the father figure does not children seeking to ovterthrow their parents--not necessarily need to be an archnemesis in that one).because they're archnemeses, but because they're young people coming into their own. Often the result of years of IHateYouVampireDad. Might overlap with LukeIAmYourFather. See AbusiveParents and ParentalNeglect for the more mundane version. See OffingTheOffspring and/or {{Patricide}} for what this might lead to. This may also explain why someone HatesTheirParent. A common subversion of the trope is the AnticlimacticParent reveal that usually shows the father as a rather harmless SitcomArchNemesis to their child rather than an actual antagonist. Sometimes this happens when the father is a NotoriousParent, as in most wanted by any or ''every'' authority.



* Jecht from ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyX'' is an {{abusive|Dad}}, [[TheAlcoholic alcoholic]] JerkJock of a dad. The nemesis relationship between himself and his son Tidus was heightened by the fact that both played the same sport, and Jecht went for the DrillSergeantNasty method of teaching and was too vain to admit his son might ever be anywhere near as good as him. Later, [[spoiler:he was transformed into the EldritchAbomination that terrorizes the entire world. Surprisingly, the trope is somewhat subverted, because Jecht becomes increasingly sympathetic as the game goes on, especially as Tidus comes to realizes that some of his {{Freudian|Excuse}} [[OedipusComplex Issues]] are his own problems and not his father's fault. Though Jecht does admit at the end he was a pretty crappy father too]].

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* Jecht from ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyX'' is an {{abusive|Dad}}, [[TheAlcoholic alcoholic]] JerkJock of a dad. The nemesis relationship between himself and his son Tidus was heightened by the fact that both played the same sport, and Jecht went for the DrillSergeantNasty method of teaching and was too vain to admit his son might ever be anywhere near as good as him. Later, [[spoiler:he was transformed into the EldritchAbomination that terrorizes the entire world. Surprisingly, the trope is somewhat subverted, because Jecht becomes increasingly sympathetic as the game goes on, especially as Tidus comes to realizes that some of his {{Freudian|Excuse}} [[OedipusComplex Issues]] Issues are his own problems and not his father's fault. Though Jecht does admit at the end he was a pretty crappy father too]].
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** Played straight with Azami Nakiri towards Erina. He's revealed to be the reason why Erina became the AlphaBitch she is at the start of the story, due to being [[AbusiveParents emotionally abusive towards her]] in his bid to groom her into his sick idea of a perfect gourmet, to the point he's the only person who can make her ''shiver'' in fear just by being around. However, with the support of her friends, Erina gains the courage to stand up to her father, even relinquishing her own seat in the Elite Ten Council to officially join LaResistance against him.

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** Played straight with Azami Nakiri towards Erina. He's revealed to be the reason why Erina became the AlphaBitch she is at the start of the story, due to being [[AbusiveParents emotionally abusive towards her]] in his bid to groom her into his sick idea of a perfect gourmet, to the point he's the only person who can make her ''shiver'' in fear just by being around. However, with the support of her friends, Erina gains the courage to stand up to her father, even relinquishing her own seat in the Elite Ten Council to officially join LaResistance against him. We do later learn in the final arc that Azami is a WellIntentionedExtremist, [[spoiler:who has tried to change the world that would allow people with the God's Tongue (his wife and his daughter) to eat food normally instead of relying solely on fluid nutrients like his wife does]].



* Fate defies this in ''Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanohaStrikers''. [[CoDragons Tre]] points out that Jail could technically be considered to be Fate's father given that she's the end result of his research into cloning, but she refuses to view him as anything other than a dangerous criminal to be arrested.

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* Fate defies this in ''Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanohaStrikers''. [[CoDragons Tre]] points out that Jail Scaglietti could technically be considered to be Fate's father given that she's the end result of his research into cloning, but she refuses to view him as anything other than a dangerous criminal to be arrested.

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