History Main / ArchnemesisDad

21st Mar '17 2:05:02 PM GlitteringFlowers
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* This happens to Tiltyu and Lex in ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemJugdral Fire Emblem: Genealogy of the Holy War]]'', since their fathers Leptor and Langobalt are members of a conspiracy led by [[spoiler:Alvis. Or better said, by Manfloy from the Lopto Sect]].

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* This happens to Tiltyu Tailto and Lex in ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemJugdral Fire Emblem: Genealogy of the Holy War]]'', since their fathers Leptor and Langobalt Lombard are members of a conspiracy led by [[spoiler:Alvis. Or better said, by Manfloy from the Lopto Sect]].



** Toyed with in ''VideoGame/FireEmblemFates'': [[spoiler: The Avatar of this game is the son or daughter of the BigBad Anankos... but more exactly, the child of his ''sane'' side, which was given a human form for some time and loved the Avatar and his/her mother Mikoto enough to summon people ''from other universes'' to protect them. Doesn't stop the proper Anankos from being the BigBad of the game and a ''terrible'' dad to the Avatar]].

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** Toyed with in ''VideoGame/FireEmblemFates'': [[spoiler: The Avatar of this game is the son or daughter of the BigBad Anankos... but more exactly, the child of his ''sane'' side, which was given a human form for some time and loved the Avatar and his/her mother Mikoto enough to summon people ''from other universes'' to protect them. Doesn't stop the proper ''proper'' Anankos from being the BigBad of the game and a ''terrible'' dad to the Avatar]].



*** Then played seriously again in the ''Heirs of Fate'' DLC; if one assumes the protagonist Shigure to be the male Avatar's son, [[spoiler:Anankos will be his Archnemesis ''Grand''dad.]]

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*** Then played seriously again in the ''Heirs of Fate'' DLC; if one assumes the protagonist Shigure to be is fathered by the male Avatar's son, Avatar, [[spoiler:Anankos will be his Archnemesis ''Grand''dad.]]]] In the game proper, however, Shigure may or may not be in this situation.
21st Mar '17 2:01:12 PM GlitteringFlowers
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* ''Manga/OnePiece'': Sanji and his father, Judge Vinsmoke. [[spoiler:The man was an AbusiveParent, belittling Sanji at every turn for his weakness and compassion and allowing his other children to bully Sanji with no remorse. When Sanji has his first confrontation with him in the present storyline, he tries to hold out some hope that his family has changed for the better, but when forced to face Judge in battle, he admits to himself that his father has never given him a single decent memory and that he only feels hatred towards him]].
** His sister Reiju Vinsmoke has a similar relationship with their father though unlike him she was modified to obey him absolutely. It's very telling that when she is told about a plot to murder her family she immediately decides to just let it happen. This does not apply to Sanji who she actually likes

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* ''Manga/OnePiece'': Sanji and his father, Judge Vinsmoke. [[spoiler:The man was an AbusiveParent, belittling Sanji at every turn for his weakness and compassion and allowing enabling his other children to bully Sanji with no remorse.sons' bullying of their brother. When Sanji has his first confrontation with him in the present storyline, he tries to hold out some hope that his family has changed for the better, but when forced to face Judge in battle, he admits to himself that his father has never given him a single decent memory and that he only feels hatred towards him]].
** His sister Reiju Vinsmoke has a similar relationship with their father father, though unlike him Sanji, she was modified to obey him absolutely. It's very telling that when she is told about a plot to murder her family she immediately decides to just let it happen. This does not apply to happen, with the only exception being Sanji who she actually likes
since he's the WhiteSheep of the clan.
14th Mar '17 9:25:17 PM LegitimateIdiot
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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Ninjago}}'' has Lloyd and Lord Garmadon. In this case, Garmadon actually loves his son, and neither wants to fight or for the latter to be evil. But they're still destined to fight each other.

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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Ninjago}}'' has Lloyd and the evil Lord Garmadon. Garmadon and his son Lloyd. In this case, Garmadon actually loves his son, son and neither wants doesn't want to fight or for hurt him. The real surprise comes when it's revealed that Lloyd is the latter to be evil. But they're still prophesied Green Ninja destined to defeat him, leaving both parties incredibly reluctant to fight each other.
14th Mar '17 2:10:46 PM BlackGryphon101
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** His sister Reiju Vinsmoke has a similar relationship with their father though unlike him she was modified to obey him absolutely. It's very telling that when she is told about a plot to murder her family she immediately decides to just let it happen. This does not apply to Sanji who she actually likes
23rd Feb '17 5:09:45 AM LegitimateIdiot
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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Ninjago}}'' has Lloyd and Lord Garmadon. In this case, Garmadon actually loves his son, and neither wants to fight or for Garmadon to be evil. But they're still destined to fight each other.

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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Ninjago}}'' has Lloyd and Lord Garmadon. In this case, Garmadon actually loves his son, and neither wants to fight or for Garmadon the latter to be evil. But they're still destined to fight each other.
23rd Feb '17 5:08:04 AM LegitimateIdiot
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* ''Franchise/{{Ninjago}}'' has Lloyd and Lord Garmadon. In this case, Garmadon actually loves his son, and neither wants to fight him or for him to be evil. But they're still destined to fight each other.

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* ''Franchise/{{Ninjago}}'' ''WesternAnimation/{{Ninjago}}'' has Lloyd and Lord Garmadon. In this case, Garmadon actually loves his son, and neither wants to fight him or for him Garmadon to be evil. But they're still destined to fight each other.
30th Jan '17 1:53:44 PM Kakai
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* In ''Literature/TheWitchlands'', Ragnor is shaping up to be one for his son Aeduen, seeing how the latter's currently mid-HeelFaceTurn.
24th Jan '17 8:30:52 PM LordDynasmon
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* ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'': The relationship between Shinji and Gendo Ikari is... complicated. Gendo abandoned his son at the tender age of 4 after Yui Ikari, Gendo's beloved wife and Shinji's mother, died. Their relationship only gets worse in the series prope: Gendo acts coldly indifferent to Shinji's suffering and nearly dying in the EVA-01 multiple times. Things finally come to a head in every version during the fight against Bardiel. Shinji refuses fighting the Angel-hijacked Eva because his best friend is inside, so that Gendo orders the Dummy Plug (basically an autopilot for the Eva Unit) to rip the angel apart, maiming Shinji's best friend Touji and killing him in the manga. Shinji gives up all hope of reconciliation after this and only comes back to NERV after finding out that if he does leave for good then everyone else dies.

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* ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'': The relationship between Shinji and Gendo Ikari is... complicated. Gendo abandoned his son at the tender age of 4 after Yui Ikari, Gendo's beloved wife and Shinji's mother, died. Their relationship only gets worse in the series prope: proper: Gendo acts coldly indifferent to Shinji's suffering and nearly dying in the EVA-01 multiple times. Things finally come to a head in every version during the fight against Bardiel. Shinji refuses fighting the Angel-hijacked Eva because his best friend is inside, so that Gendo orders the Dummy Plug (basically an autopilot for the Eva Unit) to rip the angel apart, maiming Shinji's best friend Touji and killing him in the manga. Shinji gives up all hope of reconciliation after this and only comes back to NERV after finding out that if he does leave for good then everyone else dies.
19th Dec '16 5:54:01 AM gb00393
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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'': Tywin to Tyrion. Tywin despises his son for "killing" his beloved wife and being a whore-mongering dwarf, while Tyrion despises his father for treating him with contempt.
16th Dec '16 12:11:29 AM Doug86
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* ''WesternAnimation/TransformersGenerationOne''; supposedly this is the case with Quicksix, the Autobot's six-changer and son of Six-Shot, the Decepticon equivalent. However, [[TakeOurWordForIt this enmity was only mentioned in the commercial for his action figure.]]

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* ''WesternAnimation/TransformersGenerationOne''; ''WesternAnimation/TheTransformers''; supposedly this is the case with Quicksix, the Autobot's six-changer and son of Six-Shot, the Decepticon equivalent. However, [[TakeOurWordForIt this enmity was only mentioned in the commercial for his action figure.]]
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