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* ''Series/DesperateHousewives'': Andrew Van de Kamp starts as this towards his mother. It is revealed that he has somewhat of a FreudianExcuse in the second season, as one flashback shows Bree calling his much younger self a criminal and forcing him to memorize a Bree-serving apology after he swipes a lawn ornament from Mary Alice's yard out of curiosity. Also, when he came out as gay, Bree tries to send him to conversion camp and tells him he won't get into heaven. So perhaps it's more a case of EvilVersusEvil.

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* ''Series/DesperateHousewives'': Andrew Van de Kamp starts as this towards his mother. It is revealed that he has somewhat of a FreudianExcuse in the second season, as one flashback shows Bree calling his much younger self a criminal and forcing him to memorize a Bree-serving apology after he swipes a lawn ornament from Mary Alice's yard out of curiosity. Also, when he came comes out as gay, Bree tries to send him to conversion camp and tells him he won't get into heaven. So perhaps it's more a case of EvilVersusEvil.

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** Loki of ''Film/{{Thor}}'' initially loves his father and is in fact [[WellDoneSonGuy desperate for his approval]]. Unfortunately, when he finds out he was adopted from an enemy race and his frantic attempts to gain Odin's recognition apparently fail, he becomes convinced that Odin never loved him and only raised him to have a political pawn. This prompts him to view Odin as an enemy and in ''Film/ThorTheDarkWorld'', he tries to manipulate events to lead to Odin's death and eventually [[spoiler:overpowers him and usurps the throne.]] Other than trying to push her away, though, he never seems to have anything against his mother.
** In ''Film/AvengersAgeOfUltron'', Ultron's ArchEnemy is his own creator, Tony Stark.

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** ''Film/{{Thor}}'': Loki of ''Film/{{Thor}}'' initially loves his father and is in fact [[WellDoneSonGuy desperate for his approval]]. Unfortunately, when he finds out he was adopted from an enemy race and his frantic attempts to gain Odin's recognition apparently fail, he becomes convinced that Odin never loved him and only raised him to have a political pawn. This prompts him to view Odin as an enemy and in ''Film/ThorTheDarkWorld'', he tries to manipulate events to lead to Odin's death and eventually [[spoiler:overpowers him and usurps the throne.]] Other than trying to push her away, though, he never seems to have anything against his mother.
** In ''Film/AvengersAgeOfUltron'', ''Film/ThorRagnarok'': Before Thor or Loki were born, Odin had a daughter named [[BloodKnight Hela]], who was instrumental to his crusade to conquer the Nine Realms. Unfortunately, he decided one day to abandon his conquest and rule by benevolency. Hela turned against her father, prompting Odin to banish her and eventually lock her up in an extradimensional prison that can only be unsealed with his own death.
** ''Film/AvengersAgeOfUltron'':
Ultron's ArchEnemy is his own creator, Tony Stark.



* ''Series/CobraKai'': Robby Keene has long resented his father Johnny Lawrence all because Johnny couldn’t be a good father to him. As soon as Johnny begins training and forming a fatherly bond with Miguel Diaz, Robby goes to take karate lessons with Daniel [=LaRusso=] to spite his father. While the resentment mellows out a bit during season 2, it returns in full force in season 3 as Johnny continues to constantly prioritize Miguel over Robby, eventually leading Robby to join Cobra Kai under John Kreese.
* Andrew Van De Kamp started out like this in ''Series/DesperateHousewives'' towards his mother. It is revealed that he has somewhat of a FreudianExcuse in the second season, as one flashback shows Bree calling his much younger self a criminal and forcing him to memorize a Bree-serving apology after he swipes a lawn ornament from Mary Alice's yard out of curiosity. Also, when he came out as gay Bree tried to send him to conversion camp and told him he wouldn't get into heaven. So perhaps it's more a case of EvilVersusEvil.

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* ''Series/CobraKai'': Robby Keene has long resented his father Johnny Lawrence all because Johnny couldn’t be a good father to him. As soon as Johnny begins training and forming a fatherly bond with Miguel Diaz, Robby goes to take karate lessons with Daniel [=LaRusso=] to spite his father. While the resentment mellows out a bit during season 2, it returns in full force in season 3 as Johnny continues to constantly prioritize Miguel over Robby, eventually leading Robby to join Cobra Kai under and side with John Kreese.
* ''Series/DesperateHousewives'': Andrew Van De de Kamp started out like starts as this in ''Series/DesperateHousewives'' towards his mother. It is revealed that he has somewhat of a FreudianExcuse in the second season, as one flashback shows Bree calling his much younger self a criminal and forcing him to memorize a Bree-serving apology after he swipes a lawn ornament from Mary Alice's yard out of curiosity. Also, when he came out as gay gay, Bree tried tries to send him to conversion camp and told tells him he wouldn't won't get into heaven. So perhaps it's more a case of EvilVersusEvil.

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* Two of ''Literature/TheFamousFive'' books have elderly ladies who are terrified of their grown-up sons: ''Five on a Hike Together'', and ''Five go to Billycock Hill''.


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* In ''Manga/AttackOnTitan'', [[spoiler: Zeke Yeager]]'s parents tried to use him as a tool to overthrow the government, while he was still a small child. Instead, he turned them over to the SecretPolice and helped destroy their resistance group. Even as an adult, he's still incredibly resentful towards his father and considers his younger brother, [[spoiler: Eren Yeager]] to be another victim of their father.

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* In ''Manga/AttackOnTitan'', [[spoiler: Zeke Yeager]]'s parents tried to use him as a tool to overthrow the government, while he was still a small child. Instead, he turned them over to the SecretPolice and helped destroy their resistance group. Even as an adult, he's still incredibly resentful towards his father and considers his younger brother, [[spoiler: Eren Yeager]] to be another victim of their father. [[spoiler:Seeing his father's memories and realizing that Grisha still cared about Zeke thus comes as a rather great shock to Zeke.]]



** [[spoiler:It's revealed that this is the ''true'' purpose of the Etherious -- to kill their creator, [[DeathSeeker Zeref]]. Only Mard Geer and E.N.D. know this, the former because he is acting in the place of the latter as guild master of Tartoros, and the latter because he is the only demon with the power to do the deed]].

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** [[spoiler:It's revealed that this is the ''true'' purpose of the Etherious -- to kill their creator, [[DeathSeeker Zeref]]. Only Mard Geer and E.N.D. know this, the former because he is acting in the place of the latter as guild master of Tartoros, Tartaros, and the latter because he is the only demon with the power to do the deed]].





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* In ''VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorneySpiritOfJustice'', Nahyuta Sahdmadhi, the game's main rival prosecutor, serves [[GodSaveUsFromTheQueen Queen Ga'ran]] of the Kingdom of Khura'in, putting him into conflict with his father Dhurke, who heads the [[LaResistance Defiant Dragons revolutionary movement]]. In the second part of the game's last trial, Nahyuta prosecutes Dhurke for killing [[spoiler:Inga, the justice minister and Ga'ran's husband, as well as Amara, the previous queen]], which will ensure Dhurke's execution if he's convicted. [[spoiler:It turns out that Nahyuta is actually feigning loyalty to the Ga'ran regime, since he's being {{blackmail}}ed, and is actually still loyal to the Defiant Dragons, making this a subversion.]]
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* ''Series/CobraKai'': Robby Kenne is this to Johnny Lawrence, though the former has always resented him for many years, simply because Johnny couldn’t be a good father to him. As soon as Miguel enters in the picture, Robby goes as far as to become Daniel [=LaRusso’s=] student out of revenge, and eventually John Kreese’s, after Johnny again chooses to be with Miguel over him.

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* ''Series/CobraKai'': Robby Kenne is this to Johnny Lawrence, though the former Keene has always long resented him for many years, simply his father Johnny Lawrence all because Johnny couldn’t be a good father to him. As soon as Miguel enters in the picture, Robby goes as far as to become Daniel [=LaRusso’s=] student out of revenge, and eventually John Kreese’s, after Johnny again chooses to be begins training and forming a fatherly bond with Miguel Diaz, Robby goes to take karate lessons with Daniel [=LaRusso=] to spite his father. While the resentment mellows out a bit during season 2, it returns in full force in season 3 as Johnny continues to constantly prioritize Miguel over him.Robby, eventually leading Robby to join Cobra Kai under John Kreese.
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* Lelouch from ''Anime/CodeGeass'' could be considered a justified example of this trope as his father abandoned him and his sister. As a result, Lelouch resolved to destroy the Holy Britannian Empire and eventually kills his dad.
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* ''Series/CobraKai'': Robby Kenne is this to Johnny Lawrence, though the former has always resented him for many years, simply because Johnny couldn’t be a good father to him. As soon as Miguel enters in the picture, Robby goes as far as to become Daniel [=LaRusso’s=] student out of revenge, and eventually John Kreese’s, after Johnny again chooses to be with Miguel over him.
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* ''VideoGame/DarkSoulsIII'': It's heavily implied that [[spoiler:the Nameless King]] is Gwyn's firstborn, who was [[{{Unperson}} erased from the annals of history]] for siding with the dragons when Gwyn waged war against them.

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* ''WebComic/TheNonAdventuresOfWonderella'': Wonderella's future daughter time travels back to kill her. Wonderella makes her vanish by deciding to go back on the pill.
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* Played for laughs in ''Series/{{Jackass}}'', where Bam's dad Phil is often a victim of his son's pranks, which include having pies smashed into his face, riding his mower over a hidden hole in the yard and getting stuck, or simply having the crap beaten out of him while he's busy doing something else. Being the NiceGuy that he is, Phil takes it all in stride.
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* ''Manga/MyHeroAcademia'': Chapter 290 of the manga reveals that [[spoiler:Dabi is Touya Todoroki, the presumed dead eldest son of Endeavor, and he's ''not'' happy with the abuse he suffered at Endeavor's hands due to the pro hero's ambitions. This was foreshadowed in early chapters, given that he was interested in screwing with his youngest brother Shoto as much as he was in doing so to Endeavor]].

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* ''Manga/MyHeroAcademia'': Chapter 290 of the manga reveals that [[spoiler:Dabi is Touya Toya Todoroki, the presumed dead eldest son of Endeavor, and he's ''not'' happy with the abuse he suffered at Endeavor's hands due to the pro hero's ambitions. This was foreshadowed in early chapters, given that he was interested in screwing with his youngest brother Shoto as much as he was in doing so to Endeavor]].
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Some children just don't see eye to eye with their parents. They may argue with them, flout their authority, or pretend they don't exist. This character, however, goes that extra mile. They're not only on a different page from their mom or dad, but a different side morally as well--and since the parent in question is at least nominally heroic, there is no way this is going to end well. Mom or dad might be a force for good, but their child is not, and is willing to let them know it. They're not {{Self Made Orphan}}s, but [[BetrayalByOffspring if they get their way, they will be soon.]]

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Some children just don't see eye to eye with their parents. They may argue with them, flout their authority, or pretend they don't exist. This character, however, goes that extra mile. They're not only on a different page from their mom or dad, but a different side morally as well--and since the parent in question is at least nominally heroic, there is no way this is going to end well. Mom or dad might be a force for good, but their child is not, and is willing to let them know it. They're not {{Self Made Orphan}}s, but [[BetrayalByOffspring if they get their way, they will be soon.]]
]] Also closely related to AbusiveOffspring, however, it's possible for antagonistic offspring to still retain some sort of heroic quality, or to merely ignore their parents; AbusiveOffspring are actually directly physically, sexually, or emotionally abusive to their parent.

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* David Haller, aka Legion, is the son of ''Comicbook/XMen'' founder Charles Xavier and Holocaust survivor Gabrielle Haller. He's also a deeply disturbed young man with vast psionic powers and multiple personality disorder, including an alt that is modelled on a crazed terrorist who tried to kidnap him as a child. Institutionalised as a child, David eventually broke out, clashing frequently with both the X-Men and the ComicBook/NewMutants, both of whom were led by Xavier. David eventually integrated his personalities and tried to redeem himself, but this only created worse problems, as his attempted assassination of ComicBook/{{Magneto}} in the past resulted in Xavier's death and the creation of the Comicbook/AgeOfApocalypse timeline. David was briefly killed by Bishop following this. He's since turned up alive, trying to find peace in a Tibetan monastery, which he accidentally destroyed when he learned of [[spoiler:his father's death.]]

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* David Haller, aka Legion, ComicBook/{{Legion|MarvelComics}}, is the son of ''Comicbook/XMen'' founder Charles Xavier and Holocaust survivor Gabrielle Haller. He's also a deeply disturbed young man with vast psionic powers and multiple personality disorder, including an alt that is modelled on a crazed terrorist who tried to kidnap him as a child. Institutionalised as a child, David eventually broke out, clashing frequently with both the X-Men and the ComicBook/NewMutants, both of whom were led by Xavier. David eventually integrated his personalities and tried to redeem himself, but this only created worse problems, as his attempted assassination of ComicBook/{{Magneto}} in the past resulted in Xavier's death and the creation of the Comicbook/AgeOfApocalypse timeline. David was briefly killed by Bishop following this. He's since turned up alive, trying to find peace in a Tibetan monastery, which he accidentally destroyed when he learned of [[spoiler:his father's death.]]


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* I-Ching, the blind martial artist and supernatural expert who was first introduced in ''ComicBook/WonderWoman1942'' and has mentored several superheroes, has a daughter who became an evil sorceress.
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* Berserker from ''Fanfic/HellsisterTrilogy'' is ComicBook/{{Supergirl}}'s clone's son. Captured and raised by ComicBook/{{Darkseid}} to be his weapon, Berserker eagerly looks forward to kill his genetic mother.

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* Berserker from ''Fanfic/HellsisterTrilogy'' is ComicBook/{{Supergirl}}'s clone's son. Captured and raised by ComicBook/{{Darkseid}} to be his weapon, Berserker eagerly looks forward to kill killing his genetic mother.
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Since most heroes in fiction are younger, this trope isn't as common as the ArchnemesisDad and EvilMatriarch tropes. [[AllPsychologyIsFreudian Freudian psychology]] often justifies this through a theory known as the OedipusComplex. See OffingTheOffspring and SelfMadeOrphan for what this might lead to, and cranking it UpToEleven may result in GenocideFromTheInside. Can easily overlap with EnfanteTerrible and TeensAreMonsters, although it doesn't have to. If one party is unaware of the relationship, it might lead to a LukeIAmYourFather[=/=]LukeYouAreMyFather moment when the secret is outed. In fantasy works, this character stands a good chance of being a BastardBastard or TheEvilPrince. See EvilOrphan, for when the kid isn't actually yours, and CainAndAbel, for when they go gunning for their siblings instead of mom and dad. If the offspring finds allies, you have a dark version of FriendsAreChosenFamilyArent. See also APupilOfMineUntilHeTurnedToEvil for mentor relationships, and HatesTheirParent, for when the relationship isn't outright antagonistic.

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Since most heroes in fiction are younger, this trope isn't as common as the ArchnemesisDad and EvilMatriarch tropes. [[AllPsychologyIsFreudian Freudian psychology]] often justifies this through a theory known as the OedipusComplex. See OffingTheOffspring and SelfMadeOrphan for what this might lead to, and cranking it UpToEleven may result in GenocideFromTheInside. Can easily overlap with EnfanteTerrible and TeensAreMonsters, although it doesn't have to. If one party is unaware of the relationship, it might lead to a LukeIAmYourFather[=/=]LukeYouAreMyFather moment when the secret is outed. In fantasy works, this character stands a good chance of being a BastardBastard or TheEvilPrince. See EvilOrphan, for when the kid isn't actually yours, and CainAndAbel, for when they go gunning for their siblings instead of mom and dad.dad, and EvilNephew when the target is an aunt or uncle. If the offspring finds allies, you have a dark version of FriendsAreChosenFamilyArent. See also APupilOfMineUntilHeTurnedToEvil for mentor relationships, and HatesTheirParent, for when the relationship isn't outright antagonistic.
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* In ''Literature/TheBadSeed'', CreepyChild, StepfordSmiler, and EnfantTerrible Rhoda Penmark is this to her otherwise normal mother, Christine. Discovering that her own mother was [[spoiler: a SerialKiller]], Christine eventually realises that it's been [[InTheBlood passed on]] to Rhoda, and does her best to [[OffingTheOffspring stop]] her [[TheSociopath sociopathic]] daughter before the situation gets completely out of control.

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->'''Arthur Pendragon''': I cannot give you the land. Only my love.\\
'''Mordred''': That's the one thing of yours I don't want! The quest knights have failed. They're all dead. And YOU... are dead, too. I shall come back and take Camelot by force!
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* ''WesternAnimation/ElTigre'': Manny Rivera's Granpapi wants him to become this. Granpapi himself was this to his own father, whose father was this to ''his'' father. The Rivera family is a chain of this.

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* ''WesternAnimation/ElTigre'': ''WesternAnimation/ElTigreTheAdventuresOfMannyRivera'': The title character's entire paternal lineage alternates between superhero and supervillain, with every son taking the opposite path of his father. Meanwhile, Manny Rivera's Granpapi wants him to become this. Granpapi himself was this can't decide whether he wants to be a hero like his own father, whose father was this to ''his'' father. The Rivera family is or a chain of this.villain like his grandfather.
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* ''Anime/TweenyWitches'': "Lennon's True Identity" reveals that [[spoiler:Lennon]] is the long-lost son of [[spoiler:Atelia]]. While his mother [[spoiler:is a dutiful leader of the witches]], he hates [[spoiler:the magical tradition she protects]] and attempts to kill her in the belief that she abandoned him and his father [[spoiler:for political power]].

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* In ''Webcomic/AxisPowersHetalia'', with its NationsAsPeople cast, [[LoveFreak America]] is this to [[BritishStuffiness England]]. Unsurprisingly.
-->'''America''': At least I don't have to eat your ''scones'' [[UsefulNotes/TheAmericanRevolution anymore]].\\
'''England:''' ''[furious]'' Those scones were a recipe passed down from my Mumsie!


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* In ''Webcomic/HetaliaAxisPowers'', with its NationsAsPeople cast, [[LoveFreak America]] is this to [[BritishStuffiness England]]. Unsurprisingly.
-->'''America''': At least I don't have to eat your ''scones'' [[UsefulNotes/TheAmericanRevolution anymore]].\\
'''England:''' ''[furious]'' Those scones were a recipe passed down from my Mumsie!

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* In ''WesternAnimation/{{Beowulf|2007}}'', the dragon that Beowulf faces at the end is actually his bastard son by Grendel's mother.
* In ''WesternAnimation/FireAndIce'', WordOfGod says Nekron is [[spoiler:Darkwolf's son]].



* In ''WesternAnimation/FireAndIce'', WordOfGod says Nekron is [[spoiler:Darkwolf's son]].
* In ''WesternAnimation/{{Beowulf|2007}}'', the dragon that Beowulf faces at the end is actually his bastard son by Grendel's mother.



* Just as bad as she was in the book, Rhoda/Rachel Penmark is this in both film versions of ''Literature/TheBadSeed''. In ''Film/TheBadSeed1956'' and ''Film/TheBadSeed1985''
* In ''Film/BloodDiamond'', Solomon's son Dia is brainwashed into joining the local militia. [[spoiler: Solomon pulls him back from the brink.]]



* ''Film/TronLegacy'': from a certain point of view, Clu 2.0 is just as much Kevin Flynn's son as Sam is. A combination of jealousy, poorly-worded directives, and just plain malice turned him into who we see in the present-day.
* In the original ''Film/TheOmen1976'', as well as [[Film/TheOmen2006 its 2006 remake]], the protagonist is a father who comes to realize that his son is the {{Antichrist}}.
* In ''Film/BloodDiamond'', Solomon's son Dia is brainwashed into joining the local militia. [[spoiler: Solomon pulls him back from the brink.]]
* Shingen Yashida to his far more benign father Ichiro in ''Film/TheWolverine''. [[spoiler:Which is promptly subverted later on, as desperation to avoid death made his father cease to be benign.]]

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* ''Film/TronLegacy'': from a certain point of view, Clu 2.0 is just as much Kevin Flynn's son as Sam is. A combination of jealousy, poorly-worded directives, and just plain malice turned him into who we see in the present-day.
* In both ''Film/{{Gremlins}}'' movies the original ''Film/TheOmen1976'', as well as [[Film/TheOmen2006 its 2006 remake]], titular monsters, or at least the protagonist is a father who comes first batch of them, are technically Gizmo's progeny, budded off when he gets wet. Who then decide to realize that his son is the {{Antichrist}}.
* In ''Film/BloodDiamond'', Solomon's son Dia is brainwashed into joining the local militia. [[spoiler: Solomon pulls him back from the brink.]]
* Shingen Yashida to his far more benign father Ichiro in ''Film/TheWolverine''. [[spoiler:Which is promptly subverted later on, as desperation to avoid death made his father cease to be benign.]]
eat something after midnight and transform.



* In ''Film/MollysGame'', Molly and her father have an antagonist relationship, shown in both current-day scenes as well as flashbacks to her youth.
* In the original ''Film/TheOmen1976'', as well as [[Film/TheOmen2006 its 2006 remake]], the protagonist is a father who comes to realize that his son is the {{Antichrist}}.
* In ''Franchise/StarWars'' Episode VII: ''Film/TheForceAwakens'', Kylo Ren [[spoiler:a.k.a. Ben Solo]] serves the First Order, partially to rebel against his parents, [[spoiler:Han Solo and Leia Organa]], whom he sees as poor role models, especially the former. This reaches the peak when Kylo [[spoiler:[[{{Patricide}} kills Han]]]].



* In ''Franchise/StarWars'' Episode VII: ''Film/TheForceAwakens'', Kylo Ren [[spoiler:a.k.a. Ben Solo]] serves the First Order, partially to rebel against his parents, [[spoiler:Han Solo and Leia Organa]], whom he sees as poor role models, especially the former. This reaches the peak when Kylo [[spoiler:[[{{Patricide}} kills Han]]]].
* In both ''Film/{{Gremlins}}'' movies the titular monsters, or at least the first batch of them, are technically Gizmo's progeny, budded off when he gets wet. Who then decide to eat something after midnight and transform.
* In ''Film/MollysGame'', Molly and her father have an antagonist relationship, shown in both current-day scenes as well as flashbacks to her youth.
* Just as bad as she was in the book, Rhoda/Rachel Penmark is this in both film versions of ''Literature/TheBadSeed''. In ''Film/TheBadSeed1956'' and ''Film/TheBadSeed1985''

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* In ''Franchise/StarWars'' Episode VII: ''Film/TheForceAwakens'', Kylo Ren [[spoiler:a.k.a. Ben Solo]] serves ''Film/TronLegacy'': from a certain point of view, Clu 2.0 is just as much Kevin Flynn's son as Sam is. A combination of jealousy, poorly-worded directives, and just plain malice turned him into who we see in the First Order, partially present-day.
* Shingen Yashida
to rebel against his parents, [[spoiler:Han Solo and Leia Organa]], whom he sees as poor role models, especially the former. This reaches the peak when Kylo [[spoiler:[[{{Patricide}} kills Han]]]].
* In both ''Film/{{Gremlins}}'' movies the titular monsters, or at least the first batch of them, are technically Gizmo's progeny, budded off when he gets wet. Who then decide to eat something after midnight and transform.
* In ''Film/MollysGame'', Molly and her
far more benign father have an antagonist relationship, shown Ichiro in both current-day scenes ''Film/TheWolverine''. [[spoiler:Which is promptly subverted later on, as well as flashbacks desperation to her youth.
* Just as bad as she was in the book, Rhoda/Rachel Penmark is this in both film versions of ''Literature/TheBadSeed''. In ''Film/TheBadSeed1956'' and ''Film/TheBadSeed1985''
avoid death made his father cease to be benign.]]



* In ''Literature/TheBadSeed'', CreepyChild, StepfordSmiler, and EnfantTerrible Rhoda Penmark is this to her otherwise normal mother, Christine. Discovering that her own mother was [[spoiler: a SerialKiller]], Christine eventually realises that it's been [[InTheBlood passed on]] to Rhoda, and does her best to [[OffingTheOffspring stop]] her [[TheSociopath sociopathic]] daughter before the situation gets completely out of control.



* In the ''Franchise/StarWarsLegends'', Jacen Solo/Darth Cadeus becomes this to his mom and dad, Han Solo and Leia Organa-Solo, following his turn to the darkside. He also manages to hit APupilOfMineUntilHeTurnedToEvil with his uncle Luke, and CainAndAbel with his sister Jaina, which is the relationship that gets the most focus. Isn't he just a little overachiever?
* In ''Literature/TheBadSeed'', CreepyChild, StepfordSmiler, and EnfantTerrible Rhoda Penmark is this to her otherwise normal mother, Christine. Discovering that her own mother was [[spoiler: a SerialKiller]], Christine eventually realises that it's been [[InTheBlood passed on]] to Rhoda, and does her best to [[OffingTheOffspring stop]] her [[TheSociopath sociopathic]] daughter before the situation gets completely out of control.

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* In the ''Franchise/StarWarsLegends'', Jacen Solo/Darth Cadeus becomes this to his mom and dad, Han Solo and Leia Organa-Solo, following his turn to the darkside. He also manages to hit APupilOfMineUntilHeTurnedToEvil with his uncle Luke, and CainAndAbel with his sister Jaina, which ''Literature/TheChronoliths'': [[TheHeavy Adam]] [[BigBad Mills]] is the relationship that gets the most focus. Isn't he just a little overachiever?
* In ''Literature/TheBadSeed'', CreepyChild, StepfordSmiler,
son of secondary protagonist Ashlee Mills, and EnfantTerrible Rhoda Penmark is this to her otherwise normal mother, Christine. Discovering that her own mother was [[spoiler: therefore protagonist Scott Warden's stepson. He's also a SerialKiller]], Christine eventually realises that it's been [[InTheBlood passed on]] to Rhoda, and does her best to [[OffingTheOffspring stop]] her pure [[TheSociopath sociopathic]] daughter before psychopath]] with [[LackOfEmpathy no conscience]], delusions of grandeur, and an unshakeable faith in Kuin, a mysterious conqueror who will supposedly TakeOverTheWorld at some point in the situation gets completely future (it is hinted that Adam believes himself to ''be'' Kuin). Born with his brain chemistry out of control.whack, Adam has no problem torturing his mother for information, having his stepsister gangraped for the hell of it, and attempting to murder his stepfather, all in the name of his [[TheFundamentalist crazed religious agenda]].



* In ''Literature/HarryPotter'', [[EvilSorcerer Death Eater]] Barty Crouch Jr. is this for his father, Ministry Official (and dark wizard hater) [[TheWitchHunter Barty Crouch Sr]].



* ''Literature/WarriorCats'':
** Breezepelt in ''Power of Three'' and ''Omen of the Stars''. He's the son of [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold Crowfeather]], but he [[spoiler: allies himself with the ghosts of the villains in an attempt to overthrow the society of the characters.]]
** [[TheMedic Yellowfang's]] son Brokenstar is one of the first villains to be shown in the entire series. In fact, he was so evil that Yellowfang had to kill him to save [=ThunderClan=].
* ''Literature/TheChronoliths'': [[TheHeavy Adam]] [[BigBad Mills]] is the son of secondary protagonist Ashlee Mills, and is therefore protagonist Scott Warden's stepson. He's also a pure [[TheSociopath psychopath]] with [[LackOfEmpathy no conscience]], delusions of grandeur, and an unshakeable faith in Kuin, a mysterious conqueror who will supposedly TakeOverTheWorld at some point in the future (it is hinted that Adam believes himself to ''be'' Kuin). Born with his brain chemistry out of whack, Adam has no problem torturing his mother for information, having his stepsister gangraped for the hell of it, and attempting to murder his stepfather, all in the name of his [[TheFundamentalist crazed religious agenda]].
* ''Literature/SeekerBears'': Nanuluk the [[BastardBastard pizzly bear]] is this to his saintly parents, nearly killing his father and trying to murder his mother (both allies of the heroes).

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* ''Literature/WarriorCats'':
** Breezepelt in ''Power of Three''
''Literature/{{Domina}}'': Lilith, the First Monster and ''Omen adoptive mother to most of the Stars''. He's city, describes Malcanthet the son of [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold Crowfeather]], but he [[spoiler: allies himself with the ghosts of the villains Succubus Queen as her "foulest daughter." Malcanthet, in an attempt to overthrow the society of the characters.]]
** [[TheMedic Yellowfang's]] son Brokenstar is
turn, hates her mother, and even had her raped and tortured at one of the first villains point. Malcanthet has noticeably [[BioAugmentation modified herself]] to be shown in the entire series. In fact, he was so evil that Yellowfang had to kill him to save [=ThunderClan=].
* ''Literature/TheChronoliths'': [[TheHeavy Adam]] [[BigBad Mills]] is the son of secondary protagonist Ashlee Mills,
look quite a bit like Lilith, however, and is therefore protagonist Scott Warden's stepson. He's also a pure [[TheSociopath psychopath]] with [[LackOfEmpathy no conscience]], delusions of grandeur, and an unshakeable faith [[spoiler:she cries in Kuin, a mysterious conqueror who will supposedly TakeOverTheWorld at some point in the future (it is hinted that Adam believes himself to ''be'' Kuin). Born with his brain chemistry out of whack, Adam has no problem torturing his mother for information, having his stepsister gangraped for the hell of it, and attempting to murder his stepfather, all in the name of his [[TheFundamentalist crazed religious agenda]].
* ''Literature/SeekerBears'': Nanuluk the [[BastardBastard pizzly bear]] is this to his saintly parents, nearly
Lilith's arms when she's defeated. Malcanthet then sets them both on fire, killing his father and trying to murder his mother (both allies of the heroes).herself but leaving Lilith alive]].



* In ''Literature/HarryPotter'', [[EvilSorcerer Death Eater]] Barty Crouch Jr. is this for his father, Ministry Official (and dark wizard hater) [[TheWitchHunter Barty Crouch Sr]].
* ''Literature/IAmMordred'': Mordred to King Arthur, despite resisting it every step of the way.



* ''Literature/{{Domina}}'': Lilith, the First Monster and adoptive mother to most of the city, describes Malcanthet the Succubus Queen as her "foulest daughter." Malcanthet, in turn, hates her mother, and even had her raped and tortured at one point. Malcanthet has noticeably [[BioAugmentation modified herself]] to look quite a bit like Lilith, however, and [[spoiler:she cries in Lilith's arms when she's defeated. Malcanthet then sets them both on fire, killing herself but leaving Lilith alive]].

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* ''Literature/{{Domina}}'': Lilith, ''Literature/SeekerBears'': Nanuluk the First Monster and adoptive mother [[BastardBastard pizzly bear]] is this to most of the city, describes Malcanthet the Succubus Queen as her "foulest daughter." Malcanthet, in turn, hates her mother, and even had her raped and tortured at one point. Malcanthet has noticeably [[BioAugmentation modified herself]] to look quite a bit like Lilith, however, and [[spoiler:she cries in Lilith's arms when she's defeated. Malcanthet then sets them both on fire, his saintly parents, nearly killing herself but leaving Lilith alive]].his father and trying to murder his mother (both allies of the heroes).
* In ''{{Literature/The Shahnameh}}'', Sohrab engages his father Rostam in a DuelToTheDeath, each unaware of the other's identity.
* In the ''Franchise/StarWarsLegends'', Jacen Solo/Darth Cadeus becomes this to his mom and dad, Han Solo and Leia Organa-Solo, following his turn to the darkside. He also manages to hit APupilOfMineUntilHeTurnedToEvil with his uncle Luke, and CainAndAbel with his sister Jaina, which is the relationship that gets the most focus. Isn't he just a little overachiever?



* ''Literature/IAmMordred'': Mordred to King Arthur, despite resisting it every step of the way.
* In ''{{Literature/The Shahnameh}}'', Sohrab engages his father Rostam in a DuelToTheDeath, each unaware of the other's identity.

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* ''Literature/IAmMordred'': Mordred to King Arthur, despite resisting it every step ''Literature/WarriorCats'':
** Breezepelt in ''Power of Three'' and ''Omen
of the way.
* In ''{{Literature/The Shahnameh}}'', Sohrab engages his father Rostam in a DuelToTheDeath, each unaware
Stars''. He's the son of [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold Crowfeather]], but he [[spoiler: allies himself with the ghosts of the other's identity.villains in an attempt to overthrow the society of the characters.]]
** [[TheMedic Yellowfang's]] son Brokenstar is one of the first villains to be shown in the entire series. In fact, he was so evil that Yellowfang had to kill him to save [=ThunderClan=].



* On ''Series/{{Smallville}}'', Lionel Luthor's relationship with his son, Lex, began as one between an {{abusive|Parents}} ArchnemesisDad and a tortured WellDoneSonGuy. Following Lionel's HeelFaceTurn in Season 4 (and Lex's own FaceHeelTurn shortly afterwards), the nature of the relationship changed to this, with Lex as the BigBad, and Lionel as the ReformedButRejected parent (and {{Mentor|s}} to TheHero) who tried to throw a monkey wrench into his son's {{Evil Plan}}s. It ultimately gets Lionel killed in Season 7, as Lex finally crosses the MoralEventHorizon.

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* On ''Series/{{Smallville}}'', Lionel Luthor's relationship with his son, Lex, began as one between an {{abusive|Parents}} ArchnemesisDad and a tortured WellDoneSonGuy. Following Lionel's HeelFaceTurn in In ''Series/TwelveMonkeys'', it's eventually revealed at the end of Season 4 (and Lex's own FaceHeelTurn shortly afterwards), 2 that [[BigBad the nature Witness]] is [[spoiler: Athan, Cole and Riley's child from an aborted timeline]]. The entire series up to that point has been a paradox-fueled game of the relationship changed GambitRoulette in order to this, ensure a StableTimeLoop which ends with Lex as [[spoiler: them being in the BigBad, right time and Lionel as place to conceive him]]. [[spoiler: Subverted when Athan not only turns out to be TheWoobie, but [[RedHerring isn't actually the ReformedButRejected parent (and {{Mentor|s}} to TheHero) who tried to throw a monkey wrench into his son's {{Evil Plan}}s. It ultimately gets Lionel killed in Season 7, as Lex finally crosses the MoralEventHorizon.Witness]].]]



* The Season 2 storyline of ''Series/BeingHumanUS'' features Aiden forced to confront a vampire "son" he exiled almost a century ago. Aiden hopes to find a way to reconcile and help his son return to vampire society, but [[spoiler:his hallucination of his own sire (whom Aiden killed in the season 1 finale)]] warns him about this trope. He even predicts that the son will ''always'' kill the father in such a conflict because, while a son might grow to hate his father, the father will always love the son he chose and created and never be able to ''choose'' to destroy him.
* Andrew Van De Kamp started out like this in ''Series/DesperateHousewives'' towards his mother. It is revealed that he has somewhat of a FreudianExcuse in the second season, as one flashback shows Bree calling his much younger self a criminal and forcing him to memorize a Bree-serving apology after he swipes a lawn ornament from Mary Alice's yard out of curiosity. Also, when he came out as gay Bree tried to send him to conversion camp and told him he wouldn't get into heaven. So perhaps it's more a case of EvilVersusEvil.



* Andrew Van De Kamp started out like this in ''Series/DesperateHousewives'' towards his mother. It is revealed that he has somewhat of a FreudianExcuse in the second season, as one flashback shows Bree calling his much younger self a criminal and forcing him to memorize a Bree-serving apology after he swipes a lawn ornament from Mary Alice's yard out of curiosity. Also, when he came out as gay Bree tried to send him to conversion camp and told him he wouldn't get into heaven. So perhaps it's more a case of EvilVersusEvil.

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* Andrew Van De Kamp started out like this in ''Series/DesperateHousewives'' towards On ''Series/{{Smallville}}'', Lionel Luthor's relationship with his mother. It is revealed that he has somewhat of a FreudianExcuse in the second season, son, Lex, began as one flashback shows Bree calling his much younger self a criminal between an {{abusive|Parents}} ArchnemesisDad and forcing him a tortured WellDoneSonGuy. Following Lionel's HeelFaceTurn in Season 4 (and Lex's own FaceHeelTurn shortly afterwards), the nature of the relationship changed to memorize a Bree-serving apology after he swipes a lawn ornament from Mary Alice's yard out of curiosity. Also, when he came out this, with Lex as gay Bree the BigBad, and Lionel as the ReformedButRejected parent (and {{Mentor|s}} to TheHero) who tried to send him to conversion camp and told him he wouldn't get throw a monkey wrench into heaven. So perhaps it's more a case of EvilVersusEvil.his son's {{Evil Plan}}s. It ultimately gets Lionel killed in Season 7, as Lex finally crosses the MoralEventHorizon.



* The Season 2 storyline of ''Series/BeingHumanUS'' features Aiden forced to confront a vampire "son" he exiled almost a century ago. Aiden hopes to find a way to reconcile and help his son return to vampire society, but [[spoiler:his hallucination of his own sire (whom Aiden killed in the season 1 finale)]] warns him about this trope. He even predicts that the son will ''always'' kill the father in such a conflict because, while a son might grow to hate his father, the father will always love the son he chose and created and never be able to ''choose'' to destroy him.
* In ''Series/TwelveMonkeys'', it's eventually revealed at the end of Season 2 that [[BigBad the Witness]] is [[spoiler: Athan, Cole and Riley's child from an aborted timeline]]. The entire series up to that point has been a paradox-fueled game of GambitRoulette in order to ensure a StableTimeLoop which ends with [[spoiler: them being in the right time and place to conceive him]]. [[spoiler: Subverted when Athan not only turns out to be TheWoobie, but [[RedHerring isn't actually the Witness]].]]



* ''VideoGame/FireEmblemThreeHouses'' has this be inevitable should you [[spoiler:recruit students from the other houses/kingdoms to eventually fight their homelands]], but it's most apparent with [[spoiler:[[HeroesPreferSwords Felix]] and [[BlackMagicianGirl Annette]]]] of the Blue Lions on the Black Eagles route, where they have unique dialogue should they face off with their fathers [[spoiler:Rodrigue and Gilbert]]. While [[spoiler:Felix and his father]] didn't have the best relationship even before this, [[spoiler:Rodrigue doesn't take Felix's betrayal of Dimitri well at all and declares his intent to kill his remaining son]]. [[spoiler:Annette and her father]], by contrast, are much more somber and saddened by the different paths they've taken, but they both understand [[IveComeTooFar this is just how things are and neither will back down from their beliefs]].



* Liquid Snake/[[spoiler:Eli]] from ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid'' has wanted to kill his "father" Big Boss since he was a kid, since he blames Big Boss for his "inferior" genes (or at least what he was led to believe were). He holds a grudge against his brother Solid Snake for being the clone with (what he thought were) Big Boss's "superior" genes, as well as being the one who killed Big Boss before he could.
** In addition, Big Boss was an ArchnemesisDad to Solid Snake, who he sent on a suicide mission in the original ''VideoGame/MetalGear1'' [[spoiler:where he had expected and planned for his BodyDouble, Venom Snake, to kill him]], and fought to the death in ''VideoGame/MetalGear2SolidSnake''.



* ''VideoGame/StarCraftII'' has this inverted with {{the sociopath}}ic Arcturus Mengsk and his heir apparent Valerian. Come ''Heart of the Swarm'', he's pretty much openly abandoned the Dominion, and [[spoiler:Arcturus is apparently content to kill his son alongside Kerrigan in order to see her dead.]]



* ''VideoGame/StarCraftII'' has this inverted with {{the sociopath}}ic Arcturus Mengsk and his heir apparent Valerian. Come ''Heart of the Swarm'', he's pretty much openly abandoned the Dominion, and [[spoiler:Arcturus is apparently content to kill his son alongside Kerrigan in order to see her dead.]]
* Liquid Snake/[[spoiler:Eli]] from ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid'' has wanted to kill his "father" Big Boss since he was a kid, since he blames Big Boss for his "inferior" genes (or at least what he was led to believe were). He holds a grudge against his brother Solid Snake for being the clone with (what he thought were) Big Boss's "superior" genes, as well as being the one who killed Big Boss before he could.
** In addition, Big Boss was an ArchnemesisDad to Solid Snake, who he sent on a suicide mission in the original ''VideoGame/MetalGear1'' [[spoiler:where he had expected and planned for his BodyDouble, Venom Snake, to kill him]], and fought to the death in ''VideoGame/MetalGear2SolidSnake''.



* ''VideoGame/FireEmblemThreeHouses'' has this be inevitable should you [[spoiler:recruit students from the other houses/kingdoms to eventually fight their homelands]], but it's most apparent with [[spoiler:[[HeroesPreferSwords Felix]] and [[BlackMagicianGirl Annette]]]] of the Blue Lions on the Black Eagles route, where they have unique dialogue should they face off with their fathers [[spoiler:Rodrigue and Gilbert]]. While [[spoiler:Felix and his father]] didn't have the best relationship even before this, [[spoiler:Rodrigue doesn't take Felix's betrayal of Dimitri well at all and declares his intent to kill his remaining son]]. [[spoiler:Annette and her father]], by contrast, are much more somber and saddened by the different paths they've taken, but they both understand [[IveComeTooFar this is just how things are and neither will back down from their beliefs]].

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* ''VideoGame/FireEmblemThreeHouses'' has this be inevitable should you [[spoiler:recruit students from the other houses/kingdoms to eventually fight their homelands]], but it's most apparent with [[spoiler:[[HeroesPreferSwords Felix]] and [[BlackMagicianGirl Annette]]]] of the Blue Lions on the Black Eagles route, where they have unique dialogue should they face off with their fathers [[spoiler:Rodrigue and Gilbert]]. While [[spoiler:Felix and his father]] didn't have the best relationship even before this, [[spoiler:Rodrigue doesn't take Felix's betrayal of Dimitri well at all and declares his intent to kill his remaining son]]. [[spoiler:Annette and her father]], by contrast, are much more somber and saddened by the different paths they've taken, but they both understand [[IveComeTooFar this is just how things are and neither will back down from their beliefs]].
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* ''Manga/MyHeroAcademia'': Chapter 290 of the manga reveals that [[spoiler:Dabi is Touya Todoroki, the eldest son of Endeavor whom he had presumed death, and he's ''not'' happy with the abuse he suffered at his hands due to his ambitions. This was foreshadowed in early chapters, given that he was interested in screwing up with his youngest brother Shoto as much as he did Endeavor himself]].

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* ''Manga/MyHeroAcademia'': Chapter 290 of the manga reveals that [[spoiler:Dabi is Touya Todoroki, the presumed dead eldest son of Endeavor whom he had presumed death, Endeavor, and he's ''not'' happy with the abuse he suffered at his Endeavor's hands due to his the pro hero's ambitions. This was foreshadowed in early chapters, given that he was interested in screwing up with his youngest brother Shoto as much as he did Endeavor himself]].was in doing so to Endeavor]].
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* A distant example in ''Fanfic/LadyInWhite''; [[spoiler:Roberta Remington, the head of the organisation that captured Elsa, is the great-great-granddaughter of Leif, Elsa’s great-nephew]].
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* ''Manga/MyHeroAcademia'': Chapter 290 of the manga reveals that [[spoiler:Dabi is Touya Todoroki, the eldest son of Endeavor whom he had presumed death, and he's ''not'' happy with the abuse he suffered at his hands due to his ambitions. This was foreshadowed in early chapters, given that he was interested in screwing up with his youngest brother Shoto as much as he did Endeavor himself]].
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* In ''Franchise/StarWars'' Episode VII: ''Film/TheForceAwakens'', Kylo Ren [[spoiler:a.k.a. Ben Solo]] serves the First Order, partially to rebel against his parents, [[spoiler:Han Solo and Leia Organa]], whom he sees as poor role models, especially the former. This reaches the peak when Kylo [[spoiler:{{Patricide}} kills Han]].

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* In ''Franchise/StarWars'' Episode VII: ''Film/TheForceAwakens'', Kylo Ren [[spoiler:a.k.a. Ben Solo]] serves the First Order, partially to rebel against his parents, [[spoiler:Han Solo and Leia Organa]], whom he sees as poor role models, especially the former. This reaches the peak when Kylo [[spoiler:{{Patricide}} [[spoiler:[[{{Patricide}} kills Han]].Han]]]].
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* ComicBook/{{Ultron}}, a [[AIIsACrapshoot homicidal robot]] created by [[Comicbook/AntMan Hank Pym]] of ''ComicBook/TheAvengers'' refers to Pym as his father. It has also tried to kill him, ComicBook/TheAvengers, and [[KillAllHumans most of humanity]] at one point or another, and is rightly considered by Pym to be his {{Archenemy}}. Ironically, Ultron's attempts at creating its own offspring have also met with failure and {{Heel Face Turn}}s, making Ultron both an AntagonisticOffspring to Pym, and an ArchnemesisDad towards ComicBook/TheVision and [[ComicBook/{{Runaways}} Victor Mancha]].

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* ComicBook/{{Ultron}}, a [[AIIsACrapshoot homicidal robot]] created by [[Comicbook/AntMan Hank Pym]] of ''ComicBook/TheAvengers'' refers to Pym as his father. It has also tried to kill him, ComicBook/TheAvengers, and [[KillAllHumans most of humanity]] at one point or another, and is rightly considered by Pym to be his {{Archenemy}}. Ironically, Ultron's attempts at creating its own offspring have also met with failure and {{Heel Face Turn}}s, making Ultron both an AntagonisticOffspring Antagonistic Offspring to Pym, and an ArchnemesisDad towards ComicBook/TheVision and [[ComicBook/{{Runaways}} Victor Mancha]].
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* ''Franchise/FateSeries'': Of course, when the Series Mascot is KingArthur [[HistoricalGenderFlip her]]self, it only follows that [[Myth/ArthurianLegend Mordred]] (the former TropeNamer) fulfills this role.

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* ''Franchise/FateSeries'': Of course, when the Series Mascot is KingArthur Myth/KingArthur [[HistoricalGenderFlip her]]self, it only follows that [[Myth/ArthurianLegend Mordred]] (the former TropeNamer) fulfills this role.
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* In some versions of the Myth/KingArthur mythos, the treacherous [[{{Archenemy}} Mordred]] is Arthur's son as well as his [[BrotherSisterIncest nephew]]. This never [[MutualKill ends well]]. In fact, that final battle is one of the older parts of the Arthur legend. Before his and Merlin's stories fused, long before Gwenhwyfar and round tables and lake ladies and Arthur even having any ''particular'' knights, there's a record of that battle. That said, the earliest record of this battle only records that both were killed in it, not even making it clear if Arthur and Mordred were fighting against each other or both were on the same side against their common enemy, the Saxons.

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* In some versions of the Myth/KingArthur Myth/ArthurianLegend mythos, the treacherous [[{{Archenemy}} Mordred]] is Arthur's son as well as his [[BrotherSisterIncest nephew]]. This never [[MutualKill ends well]]. In fact, that final battle is one of the older parts of the Arthur legend. Before his and Merlin's stories fused, long before Gwenhwyfar and round tables and lake ladies and Arthur even having any ''particular'' knights, there's a record of that battle. That said, the earliest record of this battle only records that both were killed in it, not even making it clear if Arthur and Mordred were fighting against each other or both were on the same side against their common enemy, the Saxons.
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* In ''{{Literature/The Shahnameh}}'', Sohrab engages his father Rostam in a DuelToTheDeath, each unaware of the other's identity.

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