History Literature / TheThrawnTrilogy

3rd Jan '18 6:26:25 AM Malachi108
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* EarlyBirdCameo: Padme's painting in the fifth issue of the comic adaptation of the third book of the series, The Last Command.

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* EarlyBirdCameo: Padme's painting portrait shows up in the fifth issue of the comic adaptation of the third book of the series, The Last Command.Command's comic adaptation, which came out after Creator/NataliePortman was cast, but before Episode I was released.
1st Jan '18 11:04:34 AM StarSword
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* PregnantBadass: [[http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/leia_is_awesome.jpg Leia.]]

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* PregnantBadass: [[http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/leia_is_awesome.jpg Leia.]]]] She's pregnant with twins Jacen and Jaina through most of the trilogy and delivers them midway through ''The Last Command'', and meanwhile fights off multiple kidnapping attempts, improves her skill with the Force, and talks the entire Noghri species into a HeelRaceTurn.
30th Dec '17 10:15:03 AM SithPanda16
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''But it was so artistically done.''
17th Dec '17 2:41:40 AM Aquila89
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--> The Emperor's final orders to her: ''You will kill Luke Skywalker.'' [[spoiler: And she does--or rather, Luuke Skywalker, the clone.]]
--> C'baoth's assertion that she will kneel before him. [[spoiler: Once again, she does--in order to better align her lightsaber for the killing blow.]]

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--> ** The Emperor's final orders to her: ''You will kill Luke Skywalker.'' [[spoiler: And she does--or rather, Luuke Skywalker, the clone.]]
--> ** C'baoth's assertion that she will kneel before him. [[spoiler: Once again, she does--in order to better align her lightsaber for the killing blow.]]
1st Nov '17 3:53:30 AM Occidensill
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** And of course, as of 2014, [[SchrodingersCanon the trilogy in its entirety is no longer canon unless referenced by new material. However, Thrawn himself would eventually enter the new Expanded Universe, but the full extent of how much of his history remains the same is yet to be seen.]]

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** And of course, as of 2014, [[SchrodingersCanon the trilogy in its entirety is no longer canon [[SchrodingersCanon unless referenced by new material.material]]. However, Thrawn himself would eventually enter the new Expanded Universe, but the full extent of how much of his history remains the same is yet to be seen.]]
7th Oct '17 2:13:10 PM julietvalcouer
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On July 16, 2016, it was announced at Celebration Europe that Thrawn (voiced by Lars Mikelsen) would appear in Season Three of WesternAnimation/StarWarsRebels and in a new non-Legends novel by Creator/TimothyZahn, making him the first major post-Jedi Legends character [[SchrodingersCanon to be transitioned back into the new timeline.]]

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On July 16, 2016, it was announced at Celebration Europe that Thrawn (voiced by Lars Mikelsen) Creator/LarsMikkelsen) would appear in Season Three of WesternAnimation/StarWarsRebels and in a new non-Legends novel by Creator/TimothyZahn, making him the first major post-Jedi Legends character [[SchrodingersCanon to be transitioned back into the new timeline.]]
14th Sep '17 6:49:20 PM ImpudentInfidel
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*** The two systems also produce completely different kinds of clones. Spaarti clones are exact duplicates with memories and skills intact, while Kamino clones are just a bunch of guys with the same DNA (and optionally growth acceleration) who have to be trained from scratch.
14th Sep '17 3:37:30 PM ImpudentInfidel
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*** This one actually doesn't pan out for him. In the finale Bilbringi is effortlessly infiltrated by the combined fleets of all the smugglers with nobody the wiser until they shoot their way out.
20th Aug '17 10:39:28 PM GrammarNavi
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For an idea of just how much of the StarWarsExpandedUniverse canon got its start in these books, go [[http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Heir_to_the_Empire#Appearances here,]] [[http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Dark_Force_Rising#Appearances here]] and [[http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/The_Last_Command#Appearances here]] and note how many times the phrase "first appearance" comes up. These novels basically ''invented'' the New Republic that the Rebellion became. A few years later, Zahn wrote the HandOfThrawn duology.

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For an idea of just how much of the StarWarsExpandedUniverse canon got its start in these books, go [[http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Heir_to_the_Empire#Appearances here,]] [[http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Dark_Force_Rising#Appearances here]] and [[http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/The_Last_Command#Appearances here]] and note how many times the phrase "first appearance" comes up. These novels basically ''invented'' the New Republic that the Rebellion became. A few years later, Zahn wrote the HandOfThrawn ''Literature/HandOfThrawn'' duology.



** The [[AllThereInTheManual Thrawn Trilogy Sourcebook]] mentions that this Mind Trick was several degrees nastier than what Obi-Wan and Luke were willing to do. Pellaeon's willpower was permanently reduced by what C'baoth did--though considering the things he was willing to work for [[JediAcademyTrilogy in later]] [[HandOfThrawn books]], it must have been formidable from the start.

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** The [[AllThereInTheManual Thrawn Trilogy Sourcebook]] mentions that this Mind Trick was several degrees nastier than what Obi-Wan and Luke were willing to do. Pellaeon's willpower was permanently reduced by what C'baoth did--though considering the things he was willing to work for [[JediAcademyTrilogy [[Literature/JediAcademyTrilogy in later]] [[HandOfThrawn [[Literature/HandOfThrawn books]], it must have been formidable from the start.



** And perhaps the most glaring of all is that Rogue Squadron is treated as just another fighter squadron and Wedge Antilles is specifically called out as a 'lowly starfighter wing commander' and Luke has to remind the Council who he is. When the ExpandedUniverse drastically increased the importance and recognition of Wedge and the Rogues (for example, in later stories that take place chronologically earlier, Wedge is almost a right-hand man to Admiral Ackbar with the latter having expressed a desire to make that status official and promote Wedge to general[[note]]Something that chronologically would happen just days after Thrawn's defeat, in the eighth book of the ComicBook/XWingSeries.[[/note]], and instrumental to liberating Coruscant), Zahn was careful to correct this in ''HandOfThrawn''. In a society more like modern Earth's, a "lowly starfighter wing commander" would be about right, but given Wedge's own record and that [[FridgeBrilliance Zahn notes that the Republic tends to rely too much on symbols]], it would make a lot of sense for the Rogues to have no small amount of fame.

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** And perhaps the most glaring of all is that Rogue Squadron is treated as just another fighter squadron and Wedge Antilles is specifically called out as a 'lowly starfighter wing commander' and Luke has to remind the Council who he is. When the ExpandedUniverse drastically increased the importance and recognition of Wedge and the Rogues (for example, in later stories that take place chronologically earlier, Wedge is almost a right-hand man to Admiral Ackbar with the latter having expressed a desire to make that status official and promote Wedge to general[[note]]Something that chronologically would happen just days after Thrawn's defeat, in the eighth book of the ComicBook/XWingSeries.[[/note]], and instrumental to liberating Coruscant), Zahn was careful to correct this in ''HandOfThrawn''.''Literature/HandOfThrawn''. In a society more like modern Earth's, a "lowly starfighter wing commander" would be about right, but given Wedge's own record and that [[FridgeBrilliance Zahn notes that the Republic tends to rely too much on symbols]], it would make a lot of sense for the Rogues to have no small amount of fame.



* FantasticRacism: If it doesn't introduce the theme into the series, it definitely makes clear that the Empire was incredibly speciesist, and Thrawn is a ''major'' exception instead to the rule. Even then, he's relegated to clearing up the Unknown Regions instead of running things closer to home...although that's later [[HandOfThrawn called into question]]. (Indeed, for someone as ruthlessly pragmatic as the Emperor, speciesism isn't particularly believable; more likely, to some, that he simply encouraged it as another means of division and control.) Ironically, Thrawn shows what could be speciesism himself in his dealings with the Noghri, though that could just be (as exemplified in later books) Chiss CulturalPosturing: while recognzing their skill and understanding important aspects of their culture, he clearly shows little interest or respect for them as people.

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* FantasticRacism: If it doesn't introduce the theme into the series, it definitely makes clear that the Empire was incredibly speciesist, and Thrawn is a ''major'' exception instead to the rule. Even then, he's relegated to clearing up the Unknown Regions instead of running things closer to home...although that's later [[HandOfThrawn [[Literature/HandOfThrawn called into question]]. (Indeed, for someone as ruthlessly pragmatic as the Emperor, speciesism isn't particularly believable; more likely, to some, that he simply encouraged it as another means of division and control.) Ironically, Thrawn shows what could be speciesism himself in his dealings with the Noghri, though that could just be (as exemplified in later books) Chiss CulturalPosturing: while recognzing their skill and understanding important aspects of their culture, he clearly shows little interest or respect for them as people.



** The second time, the situation was similar, but the mook had shown quick thinking and inventiveness, even if he'd failed. Instead of killing him, Thrawn promoted him and told him to perfect the tactic he'd used. [[HandOfThrawn He did.]]

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** The second time, the situation was similar, but the mook had shown quick thinking and inventiveness, even if he'd failed. Instead of killing him, Thrawn promoted him and told him to perfect the tactic he'd used. [[HandOfThrawn [[Literature/HandOfThrawn He did.]]
7th Aug '17 6:23:38 PM ErikModi
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* INeverSaidItWasPoison: [[TooDumbToLive Niles Ferrier]].

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* INeverSaidItWasPoison: [[TooDumbToLive Niles Ferrier]]. [[spoiler: Ferrier had paid off an Imperial lieutenant and his squad to attack a meeting of smugglers where Talon Karrde was trying to convince them to band together and help the New Republic against the Empire, so Ferrier could infiltrate them more deeply. Thrawn had specifically ordered the local Imperial garrison to leave the meeting alone, knowing the smugglers would refuse Karrde and go their own ways, but after some of them are killed in the Imperial attack, the smugglers ''do'' band together. Thrawn has Ferrier plant data in Karrde's ship at the start of the next meeting, implicating Karrde as the one who hired the Imperials. It would have worked, except Ferrier dropped the name of the Lieutenant in question without having heard anyone mention it.]]
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