History Literature / TheThrawnTrilogy

21st Apr '17 5:07:27 PM Golondrina
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* SeanConneryIsAboutToShootYou: ''Dark Force Rising'' - Creator/HarrisonFord is about to shoot you while MarkHamill is about to lightsaber you.

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* SeanConneryIsAboutToShootYou: ''Dark Force Rising'' - Creator/HarrisonFord is about to shoot you while MarkHamill Creator/MarkHamill is about to lightsaber you.
18th Apr '17 1:49:04 PM Ciara25
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** Although he still gets taken down a peg or two when he seizes control of all but a few of the 37,000 minds aboard the ''Chimera'' in order to go and seize Leia's kids -- and then Thrawn starts pointing out that yes, he's got his forces, but he's also got to actually ''get'' the ship to Coruscant over a minimum of five days, keeping control of the crew all the while; bypass Coruscant's defences, etc.

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** Although he still gets taken down a peg or two when he seizes control of all but a few of the 37,000 minds aboard the ''Chimera'' in order to go and seize capture Leia's kids -- and then Thrawn starts pointing out that yes, he's got his forces, but he's also got to actually ''get'' the ship to Coruscant over a minimum of five days, keeping control of the crew all the while; bypass Coruscant's defences, etc.
18th Apr '17 1:36:07 PM Ciara25
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* AndThenWhat: C'Baoth's original question to Thrawn as to why he should help him conquer the galaxy. C'Baoth states that he has no desire to rule over millions of people he will never meet, preferring a smaller and more intimate society that he can micromanage down to the last shirt button. [[spoiler: Subverted when C'Baoth's [[MagikarpPower rapidly expanding powers]] allow him to take control of people's minds from great distances. AndThenWhat gets thrown out the window, as now he has the means to [[MindControlConspiracy mentally dominate everyone in the entire galaxy]]. In a way, his victory would be far worse than Thrawn's, as C'Baoth would control everyone in the galaxy, mind, body, and soul.]]

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* AndThenWhat: AndThenWhat:
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C'Baoth's original question to Thrawn as to why he should help him conquer the galaxy. C'Baoth states that he has no desire to rule over millions of people he will never meet, preferring a smaller and more intimate society that he can micromanage down to the last shirt button. [[spoiler: Subverted when C'Baoth's [[MagikarpPower rapidly expanding powers]] allow him to take control of people's minds from great distances. AndThenWhat gets thrown out the window, as now he has the means to [[MindControlConspiracy mentally dominate everyone in the entire galaxy]]. In a way, his victory would be far worse than Thrawn's, as C'Baoth would control everyone in the galaxy, mind, body, and soul.]]]]
** Although he still gets taken down a peg or two when he seizes control of all but a few of the 37,000 minds aboard the ''Chimera'' in order to go and seize Leia's kids -- and then Thrawn starts pointing out that yes, he's got his forces, but he's also got to actually ''get'' the ship to Coruscant over a minimum of five days, keeping control of the crew all the while; bypass Coruscant's defences, etc.
8th Apr '17 4:23:09 PM nombretomado
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This trilogy was one of the cornerstones of the now non-canon Star Wars Expanded Universe, being the first major work set after ''ReturnOfTheJedi'' (five years after to be exact), the first truly ''popular'' entry of the franchise since ''Return of the Jedi'', and serving as the introduction of some of the most beloved figures in Star Wars EU canon, like [[http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Grand_Admiral Grand Admiral]] [[http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Mitth%27raw%27nuruodo Thrawn]], [[http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Mara_Jade_Skywalker Mara Jade]], [[http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Gilad_Pellaeon Gilad Pellaeon]] and [[http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Talon_Karrde Talon Karrde]]. For a long, long time, many fans considered them to be the honorary Episodes VII, VIII and IX, and when the actual movies were announced, initial speculation was intense about whether or not they would adapt parts or all of this story.

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This trilogy was one of the cornerstones of the now non-canon Star Wars Expanded Universe, being the first major work set after ''ReturnOfTheJedi'' ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi'' (five years after to be exact), the first truly ''popular'' entry of the franchise since ''Return of the Jedi'', and serving as the introduction of some of the most beloved figures in Star Wars EU canon, like [[http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Grand_Admiral Grand Admiral]] [[http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Mitth%27raw%27nuruodo Thrawn]], [[http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Mara_Jade_Skywalker Mara Jade]], [[http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Gilad_Pellaeon Gilad Pellaeon]] and [[http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Talon_Karrde Talon Karrde]]. For a long, long time, many fans considered them to be the honorary Episodes VII, VIII and IX, and when the actual movies were announced, initial speculation was intense about whether or not they would adapt parts or all of this story.



** In a broader sense there are several examples of this trope for the StarWarsExpandedUniverse as a whole, as this is the first canon post-''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi'' work. For instance, the idea that Jabba the Hutt was the galaxy's biggest crime lord--later works present him as a smaller figure, able to be ordered around by, for example, the leaders of Black Sun (though to be fair, most of those bigger fish died ''before'' Jabba did, so it's possible that by ''ReturnOfTheJedi'' he really was the top crime lord in the galaxy).

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** In a broader sense there are several examples of this trope for the StarWarsExpandedUniverse as a whole, as this is the first canon post-''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi'' work. For instance, the idea that Jabba the Hutt was the galaxy's biggest crime lord--later works present him as a smaller figure, able to be ordered around by, for example, the leaders of Black Sun (though to be fair, most of those bigger fish died ''before'' Jabba did, so it's possible that by ''ReturnOfTheJedi'' ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi'' he really was the top crime lord in the galaxy).
4th Apr '17 10:54:16 AM eroock
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* CompromisingCall: Discussed then averted. Han goes off to follow a suspicious looking character, leaving Lando and Luke on their own. Han tells Lando not to call him, as he might be somewhere he wouldn't want a callbeep going off. Lando later tries to comm Han anyway, since there's an Imperial raid happening, but it's moot because the Empire is jamming comm traffic and Han had his comlink taken by the suspicious-looking character's associates anyway.
28th Mar '17 7:33:24 PM tdwally
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** Zahn's view of stormtroopers comes from the original meaning of the word, referring to elite soldiers. The deployment of stormtrooper squads is treated like a significant display of force, a sharp contrast to how they are treated as generic [[{{Mook}} mooks]] in pretty much all other ''Star Wars'' media.
** With the limited number of Jedi and other Force users in the movies at that point, a lot of C'baoth's portrayal as a Jedi had to be created from whole cloth. Some discrepancies, like his use of Force Lightning, can be excused by Luke not knowing enough about being a Jedi to see the problem. Others, like the fact that the records claimed C'baoth started his Jedi training when he was in his twenties, can not.


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*** Thrawn gets one in-universe when he arrives at Karrde's base in a trio of shuttles. Karrde automatically assumes Thrawn to be in the center shuttle only for the Grand Admiral to emerge from the one on the right. Karrde takes it as a sign that Thrawn is not a predictable man.


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* TooCleverByHalf: Thrawn slips into this at times. Several of his mistakes actually come from assuming his enemies are smarter than they are, and that they are making moves against him that in reality they didn't even think of.
19th Mar '17 11:52:49 AM nombretomado
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* TheWallsAreClosingIn: In a callback to the trash compactor scene from ''ANewHope'', Luke heads into one and as the walls close in he hopes that Mara, who is controlling the trash compactor and previously stated her desire to kill him, won't let her hatred overcome her. She stops the walls a meter apart, and he rock-chimneys up and saves her boss.

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* TheWallsAreClosingIn: In a callback to the trash compactor scene from ''ANewHope'', ''Film/ANewHope'', Luke heads into one and as the walls close in he hopes that Mara, who is controlling the trash compactor and previously stated her desire to kill him, won't let her hatred overcome her. She stops the walls a meter apart, and he rock-chimneys up and saves her boss.
16th Mar '17 4:24:07 PM ImpudentInfidel
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* WolverinePublicity: Despite not being that important of a character in the first book, C'baoth is featured the most prominently on the cover, while Thrawn is given a very small space in the corner. While not quite the standard use of the trope since C'baoth was a new character, the publishers were probably going for "hey, look! a Jedi!". Oddly enough, even though it is in the later two books where the majority of his arc takes place, he gets much less cover space on the final book and isn't even on the cover of the second. (Except for the [[http://www.starwarsklub.hu/10_konyvek/konyvek_001/jpg/thrawn_1_a_birodalom_orokos.jpg Hungarian cover]] which prominently features the Grand Admiral... but not C'baoth!)

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* WolverinePublicity: Despite not being that important of a character in the first book, C'baoth is featured the most prominently on the cover, while Thrawn is given a very small space in the corner. While not quite the standard use of the trope since C'baoth was a new character, the publishers were probably going for "hey, look! a Jedi!". Oddly enough, even though it is in the later two books where the majority of his arc takes place, he gets much less cover space on the final book and isn't even on the cover of the second. (Except for the [[http://www.starwarsklub.hu/10_konyvek/konyvek_001/jpg/thrawn_1_a_birodalom_orokos.jpg Hungarian cover]] which prominently features the Grand Admiral... but not C'baoth!)C'baoth!) The 2016 covers similarly show Thrawn prominently with no C'baoth.
12th Mar '17 7:29:56 PM ImpudentInfidel
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** A major plot point, especially in the first book, is that both sides are actually suffering a critical manpower shortage. The Empire is having to rely on half-trained conscripts even on the bridge of their flagship, while the Republic is leaning on dangerous levels of automation.
7th Mar '17 11:42:45 PM harryhenry
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** Zahn based his description of Talon Karrde on the character of Avon from ''Series/Blakes7'', who was clean-shaven. Thuse, there was no mention of Karrde having facial hair. However over time the depictions of Karrde have given him beards and/or mustaches.
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