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** In a weird way, this is an inversion of the trope. By that point in human history, pretty much all humans are homosexual (see EveryoneIsGay, above). So it's more the case that Mandella is Charlie's Straight Best Friend.
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** In a weird way, this is an inversion of the trope. By that point in human history, pretty much all humans are homosexual (see EveryoneIsGay, above).homosexual. So it's more the case that Mandella is Charlie's Straight Best Friend.
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* EveryoneIsGay: Literally. After a world-wide famine, TheGovernment encourages homosexuality ("homolife") as a means of population control. Gradually, as such people get drafted into the military and the practice expands, this makes Mandella one of the few straight men left in the service, and the human race.
** The work bizarrely [[CureYourGays self-subverts]] this trope when [[spoiler: Charlie, by far the most prominent representative of all-homosexual Earth, accepts a heterosexualization treatment at the end of the novel, his cultural and technological distinctiveness absorbed into their own.]] Although it might be unfair to claim that that's representative of a gay-is-a-disease attitude on the author's part, since [[spoiler: it's pretty clear that through biological and social engineering homolife-era Earth had turned sexual orientation into a more or less manipulable quantity anyway; it's hard to shout "Ex-gay programs are crimes!" when they're being consensually chosen by a member of an ex-straight society.]]
** Charlie seems to have chosen to convert simply because he wants to fit in with the other relics.
*** Actually, it's more because he found sex with a clone pretty sickening.
** However, in the sequel ''Forever Free'' [[spoiler: it is mentioned that even after heterosexualization he had an affair with another man. And Marygay and Cat, the woman with whom she had a lesbian relationship during her final UNEF mission, still have strong feelings for each other even though Cat had herself heterosexualized as well.]]
** The work bizarrely [[CureYourGays self-subverts]] this trope when [[spoiler: Charlie, by far the most prominent representative of all-homosexual Earth, accepts a heterosexualization treatment at the end of the novel, his cultural and technological distinctiveness absorbed into their own.]] Although it might be unfair to claim that that's representative of a gay-is-a-disease attitude on the author's part, since [[spoiler: it's pretty clear that through biological and social engineering homolife-era Earth had turned sexual orientation into a more or less manipulable quantity anyway; it's hard to shout "Ex-gay programs are crimes!" when they're being consensually chosen by a member of an ex-straight society.]]
** Charlie seems to have chosen to convert simply because he wants to fit in with the other relics.
*** Actually, it's more because he found sex with a clone pretty sickening.
** However, in the sequel ''Forever Free'' [[spoiler: it is mentioned that even after heterosexualization he had an affair with another man. And Marygay and Cat, the woman with whom she had a lesbian relationship during her final UNEF mission, still have strong feelings for each other even though Cat had herself heterosexualized as well.]]
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* NonHeteronormativeSociety: After a world-wide famine, TheGovernment encourages homosexuality ("homolife") as a means of population control. Gradually, as such people get drafted into the military and the practice expands, this makes Mandella one of the few straight men left in the service, and the human race.
** The work bizarrely [[CureYourGays self-subverts]] this trope when [[spoiler: Charlie, by far the most prominent representative of all-homosexual Earth, accepts a heterosexualization treatment at the end of the novel, his cultural and technological distinctiveness absorbed into their own.]] Although it might be unfair to claim that that's representative of a gay-is-a-disease attitude on the author's part, since [[spoiler: it's pretty clear that through biological and social engineering homolife-era Earth had turned sexual orientation into a more or less manipulable quantity anyway; it's hard to shout "Ex-gay programs are crimes!" when they're being consensually chosen by a member of an ex-straight society.]]
** However, in the sequel ''Forever Free'' [[spoiler: it is mentioned that even after heterosexualization he had an affair with another man. And Marygay and Cat, the woman with whom she had a lesbian relationship during her final UNEF mission, still have strong feelings for each other even though Cat had herself heterosexualized as well.]]
** The work bizarrely [[CureYourGays self-subverts]] this trope when [[spoiler: Charlie, by far the most prominent representative of all-homosexual Earth, accepts a heterosexualization treatment at the end of the novel, his cultural and technological distinctiveness absorbed into their own.]] Although it might be unfair to claim that that's representative of a gay-is-a-disease attitude on the author's part, since [[spoiler: it's pretty clear that through biological and social engineering homolife-era Earth had turned sexual orientation into a more or less manipulable quantity anyway; it's hard to shout "Ex-gay programs are crimes!" when they're being consensually chosen by a member of an ex-straight society.]]
** However, in the sequel ''Forever Free'' [[spoiler: it is mentioned that even after heterosexualization he had an affair with another man. And Marygay and Cat, the woman with whom she had a lesbian relationship during her final UNEF mission, still have strong feelings for each other even though Cat had herself heterosexualized as well.]]
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.* EnergyWeapon: Each PoweredArmor suit has a laser built into one of its fingers, which can melt through steel.
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* FrickinLaserBeams: Ambiguous. In part I/chapter 7, Mandella only sees dots from the recruits fire on a bunker (indicating no visible beams), but is able to identify a random pattern in the return fire while hiding behind a rock (indicating the opposite). In part II/chapter 6, there seem to be visible beams when he sees an enemy laser rake across the base.
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* Slow Laser: In part I/chapter 7, Mandella only sees dots from the recruits fire on a bunker (indicating no visible beams), but is able to identify a random pattern in the return fire while hiding behind a rock (indicating the opposite). In part II/chapter 6, there seem to be visible beams when he sees an enemy laser rake across the base.
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* FutureSlang: Someone or something that gets killed/destroyed is said to have gotten "caulked."
** When a hospital worker sees Mandella's image over the phone, and realizes she's talking to one of the few living veterans of the War, she says, "That's ''[[CatchPhraseToTheMax max]]!''"
** When a hospital worker sees Mandella's image over the phone, and realizes she's talking to one of the few living veterans of the War, she says, "That's ''[[CatchPhraseToTheMax max]]!''"
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** Someone or something that gets killed/destroyed is said to have gotten "caulked."
** When a hospital worker sees Mandella's image over the phone, and realizes she's talking to one of the few living veterans of the War, she says, "That's''[[CatchPhraseToTheMax max]]!''"''max!''"
** Someone or something that gets killed/destroyed is said to have gotten "caulked."
** When a hospital worker sees Mandella's image over the phone, and realizes she's talking to one of the few living veterans of the War, she says, "That's
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* TheSpartanWay: three recruits die in training on Earth. The survivors are sent to continue their training on a DeathWorld, Charon (not Pluto's moon, which had not been discovered when the novel was written, but a Pluto sized body orbiting half again as far from the Sun as Pluto), where the slightest mistake (or just bad luck) can be (and is) lethal, and any disobedience is punishable with summary execution. The final test involves surviving a surprise attack with live missiles. [[spoiler: Not everyone passes.]]
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* TheSpartanWay: three recruits die in training on Earth. The survivors are sent to continue their training on a DeathWorld, Charon (not Pluto's moon, which had not been discovered when the novel was written, but a Pluto sized body orbiting half again as far from the Sun as Pluto), where the slightest mistake (or just bad luck) can be (and is) lethal, and any disobedience or insubordination is punishable with summary execution. The final test involves surviving a surprise attack with live missiles. [[spoiler: Not everyone passes.]]
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* HopelessWar: The war's revealed to be this [[spoiler:for the Taurans]].
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* LastStand: 126 Humans against 600 Taurans backed up by a cruiser. Then the cruiser got whacked by a rogue missile.
** After the final melee, it's closer to 28 Humans against 300 Taurans. To prevent another melee and eventual Tauran success they pull out the last nukes (not actual nukes, but they have a similar effect) and detonate them just outside the stasis field.
** After the final melee, it's closer to 28 Humans against 300 Taurans. To prevent another melee and eventual Tauran success they pull out the last nukes (not actual nukes, but they have a similar effect) and detonate them just outside the stasis field.
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* LastStand: 126 Humans against 600 Taurans backed up by a cruiser. Then the cruiser got whacked by a rogue missile.
**missile. After the final melee, it's closer to 28 Humans against 300 Taurans. To prevent another melee and eventual Tauran success they pull out the last nukes (not actual nukes, but they have a similar effect) and detonate them just outside the stasis field.
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* MohsScaleOfSciFiHardness: Fairly hard. Yes, there's FasterThanLightTravel, but there's a lot of conditions on it, and TimeDilation is a bitch. The work is also is very realistic about the Pluto-orbit-range planetoids much of the action takes place on. Piles of powder in bins marked 'oxygen.' And the weakness in the super-powerful powered armor implied below is because the suits have radiators on their backs - the effect of even a body-temperature radiator landing on a chunk of frozen gas is "like a hand grenade going off between your shoulders." They've also got "tachyon bombs", and a "tachyon drive" on their space ships that never seems to run out of fuel. In 1997.
** It actually has varying degrees of hardness. The mechanics of slower-than-light space-travel and space combats is diamond-hard. The explanation of FTL travel and technology for propulsion and weapons gets a bit hand-wavy. And on the other end of the scale there is ESP.
* TheNewRockAndRoll: Mandella says that all art in the future - music, movies, literature - sucks.
** It actually has varying degrees of hardness. The mechanics of slower-than-light space-travel and space combats is diamond-hard. The explanation of FTL travel and technology for propulsion and weapons gets a bit hand-wavy. And on the other end of the scale there is ESP.
* TheNewRockAndRoll: Mandella says that all art in the future - music, movies, literature - sucks.
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* MohsScaleOfSciFiHardness: Fairly hard. Yes, there's FasterThanLightTravel, but there's a lot of conditions on it, and TimeDilation is a bitch. The work is also is very realistic about the Pluto-orbit-range planetoids much of the action takes place on. Piles of powder in bins marked 'oxygen.' And the weakness in the super-powerful powered armor implied below is because the suits have radiators on their backs - the effect of even a body-temperature radiator landing on a chunk of frozen gas is "like a hand grenade going off between your shoulders." They've also got "tachyon bombs", and a "tachyon drive" on their space ships that never seems to run out of fuel. In 1997.
** It actually has varying degrees of hardness.Varying. The mechanics of slower-than-light space-travel and space combats is diamond-hard. There's FasterThanLightTravel, but there are also a lot of conditions on it, and TimeDilation is a bitch. The explanation of FTL travel and technology for propulsion and weapons gets a bit hand-wavy. And on work is also is very realistic about the other end Pluto-orbit-range planetoids much of the scale there action takes place on, and the weakness in the super-powerful powered armor implied below is ESP.
because the suits have radiators on their backs -- the effect of even a body-temperature radiator landing on a chunk of frozen gas is "like a hand grenade going off between your shoulders". They've also got "tachyon bombs" and a "tachyon drive" on their space ships that never seems to run out of fuel. In 1997. And then there's ESP, of course.
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* RammingAlwaysWorks: Justified, since the ramming object is moving at 0.99 c. Close to lightspeed, it hardly even matters what it is that rams your ship, you're toast; aiming is rather more difficult, however, unless it's something big, like a planet.
** Or what your ship rams. "The logistics computer calculates that we have about a 62 percent chance of success, should we attempt to destroy the enemy base. Unfortunately, we would only have a 30 percent chance of survival - as some of the scenarios leading to success involve ramming the portal planet with the ''Anniversary'' at the speed of light."
* SciFiWritersHaveNoSenseOfScale: The tachyon bombs that the troopers are hurling around in Mandella's first assignment are "microton" weapons. A microton device would be an explosive with the same yield as one one-millionth of a ton of TNT, or about 1 gram of TNT. This is about the same explosive yield as an old M-80 firecracker; it wouldn't be enough to blow open a locked wooden door, let alone excavate a crater.
** The bombs they use are described as several hundred microtons, though, not singles. This might be a revision in the text. Still not much explosive power, being equal to a stick of dynamite or so at best.
** This of course assumes that they still use TNT as the basis. Microtons of antimatter, for example, would be a significant amount of explosive power.
** Or what your ship rams. "The logistics computer calculates that we have about a 62 percent chance of success, should we attempt to destroy the enemy base. Unfortunately, we would only have a 30 percent chance of survival - as some of the scenarios leading to success involve ramming the portal planet with the ''Anniversary'' at the speed of light."
* SciFiWritersHaveNoSenseOfScale: The tachyon bombs that the troopers are hurling around in Mandella's first assignment are "microton" weapons. A microton device would be an explosive with the same yield as one one-millionth of a ton of TNT, or about 1 gram of TNT. This is about the same explosive yield as an old M-80 firecracker; it wouldn't be enough to blow open a locked wooden door, let alone excavate a crater.
** The bombs they use are described as several hundred microtons, though, not singles. This might be a revision in the text. Still not much explosive power, being equal to a stick of dynamite or so at best.
** This of course assumes that they still use TNT as the basis. Microtons of antimatter, for example, would be a significant amount of explosive power.
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* SciFiWritersHaveNoSenseOfScale: The tachyon bombs that the troopers are hurling around in Mandella's first assignment are "microton" weapons. A microton device would be an explosive with the same yield as one one-millionth of a ton of TNT, or about 1 gram of TNT. This is about the same explosive yield as an old M-80 firecracker; it wouldn't be enough to blow open a locked wooden door, let alone excavate acrater.
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* StarfishAliens: The Taurans.
* StrangerInAFamiliarLand: Played to devastating effect. Mandella and Potter's return to Earth after their first tour of duty. [[spoiler: Mandella's father is dead; his mother is dying of cancer which TheGovernment's medicine system refuses to treat because she is not considered worth it, and she has taken a lesbian lover. Potter's parents are forced out of their home for defying government regulations, and end up on an agricultural commune under assumed identities. They are killed while Mandella and Potter are staying with them by raiders looking for food.]] Needless to say, [[ButNowIMustGo the two re-enlist in the Army and get off the planet.]]
** Note that they only re-enlisted with the assurance that they'd be stationed on the Moon as instructors. [[ExactWords On arrival at their new station]] they are immediately reassigned to fight in another star system.
* StrangerInAFamiliarLand: Played to devastating effect. Mandella and Potter's return to Earth after their first tour of duty. [[spoiler: Mandella's father is dead; his mother is dying of cancer which TheGovernment's medicine system refuses to treat because she is not considered worth it, and she has taken a lesbian lover. Potter's parents are forced out of their home for defying government regulations, and end up on an agricultural commune under assumed identities. They are killed while Mandella and Potter are staying with them by raiders looking for food.]] Needless to say, [[ButNowIMustGo the two re-enlist in the Army and get off the planet.]]
** Note that they only re-enlisted with the assurance that they'd be stationed on the Moon as instructors. [[ExactWords On arrival at their new station]] they are immediately reassigned to fight in another star system.
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* StrangerInAFamiliarLand: Played to devastating effect. Mandella and Potter's return to Earth after their first tour of duty. [[spoiler: Mandella's father is dead; his mother is dying of cancer which TheGovernment's medicine system refuses to treat because she is not considered worth it, and she has taken a lesbian lover. Potter's parents are forced out of their home for defying government regulations, and end up on an agricultural commune under assumed identities. They are killed while Mandella and Potter are staying with them by raiders looking for food.]] Needless to say, [[ButNowIMustGo the two re-enlist in the Army and get off the
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* CrapsaccherineWorld: (Note: Depending on which version of the book you read) the population of Earth has been conditioned to be happy with their lives, despite massive overpopulation and a corresponding lack of jobs and housing, and health care restricted to those few who are useful to society.
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* ExactWords: After their first return to Earth, Mandella and Marygay agree to re-enlist if they are assigned to training positions. They get the desired assignments -- and are then immediately re-assigned to combat.
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* SpeculativeFictionLGBT: has this as an unintended side-effect. Sending an army several light years away to fight a war then retrieving the survivors afterwards means, inevitably, that the time-dilation effect applies and those soldiers have returned to an Earth several centuries older than the one they left. After the second or third jump to and from a war-front, heterosexually inclined veterans realise in their absence that the social mores of the world have reversed - being gay is now the norm and a small population of diehard hetros are now the "queer" ones. The inevitable happens and several formerly hetero ladies travel on their next jump into time and space as active lesbians.
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* PoweredArmor: Just don't [[ForMassiveDamage fall or take a hit to your back.]]
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* DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything: The whole novel is pretty much one of these for TheVietnamWar. In particular, the relativistic disconnect that the war veterans experience when returning to a world that keeps changing unrecognisably in what, to them, is an incredibly short span of time was intended as a metaphor for the ways that soldiers who'd spend years in Vietnam would experience significant culture shock on returning to an America that, in the 1960s, was rapidly changing.
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* DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything: The whole novel is pretty much one of these for TheVietnamWar.UsefulNotes/TheVietnamWar. In particular, the relativistic disconnect that the war veterans experience when returning to a world that keeps changing unrecognisably in what, to them, is an incredibly short span of time was intended as a metaphor for the ways that soldiers who'd spend years in Vietnam would experience significant culture shock on returning to an America that, in the 1960s, was rapidly changing.
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* TheSpartanWay: three recruits die in training on Earth. The survivors are sent to continue their training on a DeathWorld, Pluto's moon Charon, where the slightest mistake (or just bad luck) can be (and is) lethal, and any disobedience is punishable with summary execution. The final test involves surviving a surprise attack with live missiles. [[spoiler: Not everyone passes.]]
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* TheSpartanWay: three recruits die in training on Earth. The survivors are sent to continue their training on a DeathWorld, Charon (not Pluto's moon Charon, moon, which had not been discovered when the novel was written, but a Pluto sized body orbiting half again as far from the Sun as Pluto), where the slightest mistake (or just bad luck) can be (and is) lethal, and any disobedience is punishable with summary execution. The final test involves surviving a surprise attack with live missiles. [[spoiler: Not everyone passes.]]
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* {{Dehumanization}}: The soldiers are mentally conditioned to view the enemy Taurans as sub-human, by invoking false memories of Taurans burning cities, eating children, and raping women. The soldiers know the images are fake, as no one has even seen a Tauran before their battle, but they still work to send them into a bloodthirsty frenzy, to the point that their mission to capture a Tauran fails because the soldiers slaughter them all.
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** This of course assumes that they still use TNT as the basis. Microtons of antimatter, for example, would be a significant amount of explosive power.
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** It actually has varying degrees of hardnes. The mechanics of slower-than-light space-travel and space combats is diamond-hard. The explanation of FTL travel and technology for propulsion and weapons gets a bit hand-wavy. And on the other end of the scale there is ESP.
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* LieBackAndThinkOfEngland: during his stay on Stargate, Mandella mentions that military women are compliant and promiscuous, by military custom and law.
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* LieBackAndThinkOfEngland: during During his stay on Stargate, Mandella mentions that military women are compliant and promiscuous, by military custom and law.
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** Originally set for 2013, directed by Creator/RidleyScott. [[http://io9.com/5187373/james-camerons-avatar-influences-ridley-scotts-forever-war]] "I've got a good writer doing it" has been reported to be DavidPeoples. [[http://www.movieweb.com/news/NEbMS0O6IswKfb]] Unfortunately [[http://joe-haldeman.livejournal.com/182031.html?thread=532239#t532239 this was a misunderstanding.]]
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** Originally set for 2013, directed by Creator/RidleyScott. [[http://io9.com/5187373/james-camerons-avatar-influences-ridley-scotts-forever-war]] "I've got a good writer doing it" has been reported to be DavidPeoples.Creator/DavidWebbPeoples. [[http://www.movieweb.com/news/NEbMS0O6IswKfb]] Unfortunately [[http://joe-haldeman.livejournal.com/182031.html?thread=532239#t532239 this was a misunderstanding.]]
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* TheFilmOfTheBook: Coming in 2013, to be directed by Creator/RidleyScott. [[http://io9.com/5187373/james-camerons-avatar-influences-ridley-scotts-forever-war]] "I've got a good writer doing it" has been reported to be DavidPeoples. [[http://www.movieweb.com/news/NEbMS0O6IswKfb]] Unfortunately [[http://joe-haldeman.livejournal.com/182031.html?thread=532239#t532239 this may be a misunderstanding.]]
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* TheFilmOfTheBook: Coming TheFilmOfTheBook: Currently in DevelopmentHell, but progressing:
** Originally set for 2013,to be directed by Creator/RidleyScott. [[http://io9.com/5187373/james-camerons-avatar-influences-ridley-scotts-forever-war]] "I've got a good writer doing it" has been reported to be DavidPeoples. [[http://www.movieweb.com/news/NEbMS0O6IswKfb]] Unfortunately [[http://joe-haldeman.livejournal.com/182031.html?thread=532239#t532239 this may be was a misunderstanding.]]]]
** Currently, Warner Brothers and Sony are in a bidding war for the film. Ridley Scott's rights deal has expired. Jon Spaihts ("[[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Film/Prometheus Promethus]]") is working on the script, with Channing Tatum in the lead role. [[http://www.thewrap.com/channing-tatum-to-star-in-the-forever-war-as-bidding-war-heats-up/]]
** Originally set for 2013,
** Currently, Warner Brothers and Sony are in a bidding war for the film. Ridley Scott's rights deal has expired. Jon Spaihts ("[[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Film/Prometheus Promethus]]") is working on the script, with Channing Tatum in the lead role. [[http://www.thewrap.com/channing-tatum-to-star-in-the-forever-war-as-bidding-war-heats-up/]]
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* ActionSurvivor: It's debatable, but Madella and Marygay. Despite being nothing less than an elite [[SuperSoldier super soldiers]] in PoweredArmor, their repeated survival in the unfathomably brutal combat zones is almost entirely through blind luck.
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* ActionSurvivor: It's debatable, but Madella Mandella and Marygay. Despite being nothing less than an elite [[SuperSoldier super soldiers]] in PoweredArmor, their repeated survival in the unfathomably brutal combat zones is almost entirely through blind luck.
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* DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything: The relativistic disconnect that the war veterans experience when returning to a world that keeps changing unrecognisably in what, to them, is an incredibly short span of time was intended as a metaphor for the disconnect that soldiers would experience on returning to society after their tours of duty (particularly during TheVietnamWar).
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* DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything: The whole novel is pretty much one of these for TheVietnamWar. In particular, the relativistic disconnect that the war veterans experience when returning to a world that keeps changing unrecognisably in what, to them, is an incredibly short span of time was intended as a metaphor for the disconnect ways that soldiers who'd spend years in Vietnam would experience significant culture shock on returning to society after their tours of duty (particularly during TheVietnamWar). an America that, in the 1960s, was rapidly changing.
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* DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything: The relativistic disconnect that the war veterans experience when returning to a world that keeps changing unrecognisably in what, to them, is an incredibly short span of time was intended as a metaphor for the disconnect that soldiers would experience on returning to society after their tours of duty (particularly during TheVietnamWar).
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* TheFilmOfTheBook: Coming in 2013, to be directed by RidleyScott. [[http://io9.com/5187373/james-camerons-avatar-influences-ridley-scotts-forever-war]] "I've got a good writer doing it" has been reported to be DavidPeoples. [[http://www.movieweb.com/news/NEbMS0O6IswKfb]] Unfortunately [[http://joe-haldeman.livejournal.com/182031.html?thread=532239#t532239 this may be a misunderstanding.]]
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* TheFilmOfTheBook: Coming in 2013, to be directed by RidleyScott.Creator/RidleyScott. [[http://io9.com/5187373/james-camerons-avatar-influences-ridley-scotts-forever-war]] "I've got a good writer doing it" has been reported to be DavidPeoples. [[http://www.movieweb.com/news/NEbMS0O6IswKfb]] Unfortunately [[http://joe-haldeman.livejournal.com/182031.html?thread=532239#t532239 this may be a misunderstanding.]]
