History Literature / KushielsLegacy

19th Jun '16 2:50:38 PM StarSword
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* DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale: Both played straight and averted depending on who the protagonist is. In ''Naamah's Kiss'', Moirin more than once jumps on a man ''who is saying no'' (both times because she's a bit under the influence herself, but still) and compels him to go along with it. However, when Imriel is assaulted by a woman (ironically, of the same people as Moirin) who tries to compel him to respond to her desire, this ''is'' held up as an abomination.
** Moirin comes from Alba-the culture is different in Terre d'Ange, which views rape as ''heresy.''

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* DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale: Both played straight and averted depending on who the protagonist is. In ''Naamah's Kiss'', Moirin more than once jumps on a man ''who is saying no'' (both times because she's a bit under the influence herself, but still) and compels him to go along with it. However, when Imriel is assaulted by a woman (ironically, of the same people as Moirin) who tries to compel him to respond to her desire, this ''is'' held up as an abomination.
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abomination. The trick is, Moirin comes from Alba-the Alba. The culture is different in Terre d'Ange, which views rape as ''heresy.'' ''
* DoubleStandardRapeMaleOnMale: Strongly condemned. Imriel was raped during his stay in the Mahrkagir's harem and it's largely thanks to Phèdre and Joscelin's [[ParentalSubstitute parenting skills]] that he's in as good mental shape as he is in the second trilogy.



* AManIsNotAVirgin: Averted, we get to see Imriel's first time.
** Also, Phèdre and Joscelin's first time is an inversion. Phèdre's not a virgin, but Joscelin ''is.''

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* AManIsNotAVirgin: Averted, we get There's actually a tradition among male d'Angeline aristocrats where a young man's friends will buy him a night at the Night Court for his sixteenth birthday to see Imriel's first time.
** Also,
lose his virginity with a Servant of Naamah. However, Phèdre and Joscelin's first time is an inversion. Phèdre's not inversion: she hasn't been a virgin, virgin since about a third of the way through the book, but Joscelin ''is.''''is'', as a member of an order of celibate {{Warrior Monk}}s. As for Imriel, he's indicated to have been raped offscreen in Darsanga, but apparently the d'Angeline view is that it doesn't count; Phèdre pays for his first time when he turns sixteen with a Night Court courtesan from a House known for kindness.
19th Jun '16 2:31:25 PM StarSword
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* BrownNote: When Phèdre learns the [[spoiler: "Name of God", a powerful word that contains within it the secrets of the nature of the entire world and uses it to compel an Angel to break a curse over Hyacinthe. Carey cheats in order to avoid printing the Name: whenever it is spoken, it appears as "____________". However, every ''mortal'' who hears Phedre use it to compel Raziel, hears the word "love" in their own language.]]

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* BrownNote: When Phèdre learns the [[spoiler: "Name of God", a powerful word that contains within it the secrets of the nature of the entire world and uses it to compel an Angel to break a curse over Hyacinthe. Carey cheats in order to avoid printing the Name: whenever it is spoken, it appears as "____________". However, every ''mortal'' who hears Phedre use it to compel Raziel, Rahab, hears the word "love" in their own language.]]
19th Jun '16 2:28:33 PM StarSword
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*** Although of course Terre d'Ange is basically France at the height of its power, which makes it easy for them to [[spoiler: defeat Skaldia]], whereas RealLife Germany and France were indeed historical enemies [[labelnote: note]]The mutual enmity only began to subside after WWII, and ironically by now both countries have arguably the strongest ties in the Eurozone and share a lot of mutual strategic interest - it's no coincidence the Franco-German cooperation is referred to as the "dual engine" or "dual heart" of the EU[[/labelnote]] and had several wars, it's France who was usually decisively on the receiving end (apart from [[{{UsefulNotes/NapoleonBonaparte}} a few memorable exceptions]]). And specifically in the case of WWII, it can hardly be said that France "won" it by virtue of own merit. [[labelnote: note]]That was still a primarily Soviet/American/British enterprise with France being liberated by the Western allies and contributing mainly in the end phase of the war, with Germany already on the verge of collapse.[[/labelnote]]

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*** Although of course Terre d'Ange is basically France at the height of its power, which makes it easy for them to [[spoiler: defeat Skaldia]], whereas RealLife Germany and France were indeed historical enemies [[labelnote: note]]The mutual enmity only began to subside after WWII, and ironically by now both countries have arguably the strongest ties in the Eurozone and share a lot of mutual strategic interest - it's no coincidence the Franco-German cooperation is referred to as the "dual engine" or "dual heart" of the EU[[/labelnote]] and had several wars, it's France who was usually decisively on the receiving end (apart from [[{{UsefulNotes/NapoleonBonaparte}} [[UsefulNotes/NapoleonBonaparte a few memorable exceptions]]). And specifically in the case of WWII, it can hardly be said that France "won" it by virtue of own merit. [[labelnote: note]]That was still a primarily Soviet/American/British enterprise with France being liberated by the Western allies and contributing mainly in the end phase of the war, with Germany already on the verge of collapse.[[/labelnote]]


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* FantasyKitchenSink: The first trilogy starts with a takeoff of Judeo-Christian mythology, especially Literature/TheFourGospels, being the literal origin story for Terre d'Ange, then adds DreamingOfThingsToCome in the Alban royal family's Celtic bloodline. ''Avatar'' incorporates a literal version of UsefulNotes/{{Zoroastrian|ism}} mythology in the Mahrkagir story arc, then we start to get spells cast by mortals in ''Justice'', and by the ''Naamah'' trilogy it becomes a setting relatively high in magic.
18th Jun '16 9:38:33 AM StarSword
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* EarthDrift: ''Dart'' has little more than divine lineage to elevate itself above historical fiction. ''Naamah's'' Trilogy, in contrast, begins with a character who can turn herself invisible, and takes a pit stop at summoning demons from the ArsGoetia before running off to Chinese dragons.

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* EarthDrift: ''Dart'' has little more than divine lineage to elevate itself above historical fiction. ''Naamah's'' Trilogy, in contrast, begins with a character who can turn herself invisible, and takes a pit stop at summoning demons from the ArsGoetia before running off to Chinese dragons. {{Justified}} by the end of ''Kushiel's Mercy'', which states that, with protagonists close to the royal family having been victimized so often by acts of high magic, Imriel and Sidonie are going to establish an academy to research and teach magic for defense of the realm.



* FantasyContraception: The gift of the fertility goddess Eisheth to D'Angeline women-they can only become pregnant if they light a candle and pray to her for it. She may or may not then grant this request.
** Interestingly, Eisheth absolutely refuses to grant one such request when made by a woman who was- unbeknownst to her- under the influence of a mind-controlling love spell.
*** Ultimately played straight, since the woman in question later revealed that she never made the request in the first place.

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* FantasyContraception: The gift of the fertility goddess Eisheth to D'Angeline women-they women: they can only become pregnant if they light a candle and pray to her for it. She may or may not then grant this request.
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request. Interestingly, Eisheth absolutely refuses to grant one such request when made by a woman who was- unbeknownst was--unbeknownst to her- under her--under the influence of a mind-controlling love spell.
*** Ultimately
spell. [[spoiler:Ultimately played straight, since the woman in question later revealed that she never made the request in the first place. place.]]
17th Jun '16 6:59:02 PM StarSword
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* BrownNote: When Phèdre learns the [[spoiler: "Name of God", a powerful word that contains within it the secrets of the nature of the entire world and uses it to compel an Angel to break a curse over Hyacinthe. Carey cheats in order to avoid printing the Name: whenever it is spoken, it appears as "____________".]]

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* BrotherSisterIncest: Before her training begins, Anafiel Delunay arranges for Phedre to attend a "Showing", a sexual act for an audience that in this case stars a brother and sister.
* BrownNote: When Phèdre learns the [[spoiler: "Name of God", a powerful word that contains within it the secrets of the nature of the entire world and uses it to compel an Angel to break a curse over Hyacinthe. Carey cheats in order to avoid printing the Name: whenever it is spoken, it appears as "____________". However, every ''mortal'' who hears Phedre use it to compel Raziel, hears the word "love" in their own language.]]



* CantStandThemCantLiveWithoutThem: Joscelin towards Phèdre. Really, what do you expect from a celibate warrior-priest paired with a courtesan who enjoys her job?

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* CantStandThemCantLiveWithoutThem: Joscelin towards Phèdre. Phèdre in the first two books. Really, what do you expect from a celibate warrior-priest paired with a courtesan who enjoys her job?job? [[spoiler:He finally accepts being her permanent LoveInterest in act three of ''Chosen''.]]
17th Jun '16 6:43:59 PM StarSword
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** The Yeshuites are Ashkenazi Jews mixed with Roma and the mythology of [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messianic_Judaism Messianic Judaism]]. That is, they're caravanners who are basically culturally European Jews, but accept Jesus (and not Elua) as the Messiah. (The name "Yeshuite" comes from Yeshua ben Yusuf, Jesus' name in Hebrew (it's a cognate of "Joshua" in real life).

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** The Yeshuites are Ashkenazi Jews mixed with Roma and the mythology of [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messianic_Judaism Messianic Judaism]]. That is, they're caravanners who are basically culturally European Jews, but accept Jesus (and not Elua) as the Messiah. (The name "Yeshuite" comes from Yeshua ben Yusuf, Jesus' name in Hebrew (it's [it's a cognate of "Joshua" in real life)."Joshua"]).
12th Jun '16 1:50:14 PM StarSword
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** Alba is a Britain where the Celts were never replaced by the Anglo-Saxons and Normans as the dominant culture. The Dalriada in the first book are borrowed in name from a Celtic kingdom that ruled in the Hebrides in the mid-first millennium A.D.

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** Alba is a Britain where the Celts were never replaced by the Anglo-Saxons and Normans as the dominant culture.culture (the name is Scots Gaelic for Scotland). The Dalriada in the first book are borrowed in name from a Celtic kingdom that ruled in the Hebrides in the mid-first millennium A.D. (in real life it was later conquered by the Norse).
3rd Jun '16 9:54:13 AM StarSword
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* CultureClash: Most notable between Terre d'Ange and Alba, which are politically united by Ysandre and Drustan's marriage, but completely different culturally.

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* CultureClash: TheCoup: The plot of ''Kushiel's Chosen'' ultimately revolves around [[spoiler:a coup attempt against Queen Ysandre by her uncle Prince Baudoin and his lover Melisande Shahrizai, with the connivance of a general in the D'Angeline army and the Grandmaster of the Cassiline Brotherhood. Phedre and Joscelin are able to foil the Grandmaster's assassination of Ysandre, then the Queen leads troops from the Skaldi border to recapture the City of Elua.]]
* CultureClash:
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Most notable between Terre d'Ange and Alba, which are politically united by Ysandre and Drustan's marriage, but completely different culturally.
30th May '16 3:55:28 PM StarSword
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** Alba is a Britain where the Celts were never replaced by the Anglo-Saxons and Normans as the dominant culture. The Dalriada in the first book are borrowed in name from a Celtic kingdom that ruled in the Hebrides in the mid-first millennium A.D.
** The Yeshuites are Ashkenazi Jews mixed with Roma and the mythology of [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messianic_Judaism Messianic Judaism]]. That is, they're caravanners who are basically culturally European Jews, but accept Jesus (and not Elua) as the Messiah. (The name "Yeshuite" comes from Yeshua ben Yusuf, Jesus' name in Hebrew (it's a cognate of "Joshua" in real life).


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* HistoricalFantasy: It's basically a Europe and the Mediterranean where the Gospel narrative was literally true but took a very different turn after the Crucifixion. Works of high magic and {{Physical God}}s are reasonably common, but there's little small-scale magic.
22nd May '16 1:19:52 AM Morgenthaler
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* BlondesAreEvil: Isabel L'Envers arranged the death of her rival.
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