History Headscratchers / Zork

19th Apr '16 10:09:32 AM Kahran042
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* Why the heck does anybody in ''Return to Zork'' still play ''Survivor''? It's a solved game. If you omit the "wizard may pass" rule, Canuk wins every time, while if you include it, Trembyle always wins. More importantly, why does ''Morpheus'', the BigBad of the game, [[ChessWithDeath use a solved game to determine his victims' fates?]] [[TooDumbToLive That's just asking for trouble.]]

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* Why the heck does anybody in ''Return to Zork'' still play ''Survivor''? It's a solved game. If you omit the "wizard may pass" rule, Canuk wins every time, while if you include it, Trembyle always wins. More importantly, why does ''Morpheus'', the BigBad of the game, [[ChessWithDeath use a solved game to determine his victims' fates?]] [[TooDumbToLive That's just asking for trouble.]]]]
* ''Return to Zork'' implies that there's a distinction between mages and wizards, but what is it?
24th Feb '16 8:22:42 AM Twoeyesshort
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** It could be that, while it does glow, and grues do hate even dim light, a grue approaching from behind would have the light source blocked entirely until it ripped the adventurer's head off. This is assuming the sword's even being held out in the open and not kept in {{Hammerspace}}.



*** Makes one wonder why there's even an off-switch option at all. Never actually solved that puzzle, but I can't help but feel that that creepy innkeeper lady Molly purposely wants me to die so [[InnOfNoReturn she can loot my body in the morning]].

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*** Makes one wonder why there's even an off-switch option at all. Never actually solved that puzzle, but I can't help but feel that that creepy innkeeper lady Molly purposely wants me to die so [[InnOfNoReturn she can loot my body in the morning]].morning]].
* Why the heck does anybody in ''Return to Zork'' still play ''Survivor''? It's a solved game. If you omit the "wizard may pass" rule, Canuk wins every time, while if you include it, Trembyle always wins. More importantly, why does ''Morpheus'', the BigBad of the game, [[ChessWithDeath use a solved game to determine his victims' fates?]] [[TooDumbToLive That's just asking for trouble.]]
25th Mar '15 2:29:35 PM Pika123
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*** Especially seeing as he can get around the G.U.E just fine, despite not carrying any source of light on him. Means he has no reason to steal it except to be a dick.
18th Feb '15 6:19:04 AM BreakinBenny
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** Yes, In Return to Zork you can actually pay money to rent a room in the inn and if you don't bring your own light source you *will* be eaten by a grue when you turn out the lights to go to sleep.
*** Makes one wonder why there's even an off-switch option at all. Never actually solved that puzzle, but I can't help but feel that that creepy innkeeper lady purposely wants me to die so she can loot my body in the morning.

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** Yes, In Return ''Return to Zork Zork'' you can actually pay money to rent a room in the inn inn, and if you don't bring your own light source you *will* be eaten by a grue when you turn out the lights to go to sleep.
*** Makes one wonder why there's even an off-switch option at all. Never actually solved that puzzle, but I can't help but feel that that creepy innkeeper lady Molly purposely wants me to die so [[InnOfNoReturn she can loot my body in the morning.morning]].
11th Sep '14 5:05:18 PM Pika123
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** Yes, In Return to Zork you can actually pay money to rent a room in the inn and if you don't bring your own light source you *will* be eaten by a grue when you turn out the lights to go to sleep.

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** Yes, In Return to Zork you can actually pay money to rent a room in the inn and if you don't bring your own light source you *will* be eaten by a grue when you turn out the lights to go to sleep.sleep.
*** Makes one wonder why there's even an off-switch option at all. Never actually solved that puzzle, but I can't help but feel that that creepy innkeeper lady purposely wants me to die so she can loot my body in the morning.
6th Oct '11 1:04:55 PM donkyhotay
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* Every dark area is likely to be filled with grues. Does that mean that residents of the Underground Empire are forced to always have lights on, lest they get eaten by grues?

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* Every dark area is likely to be filled with grues. Does that mean that residents of the Underground Empire are forced to always have lights on, lest they get eaten by grues?grues?
** Yes, In Return to Zork you can actually pay money to rent a room in the inn and if you don't bring your own light source you *will* be eaten by a grue when you turn out the lights to go to sleep.
7th Jul '11 6:05:55 PM Highwind
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** Remember, the thief steals the torch, i.e. the only light source in the game that doesn't eventually burn out. That's not cool, that's trying to get you killed by a grue.

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** Remember, the thief steals the torch, i.e. the only light source in the game that doesn't eventually burn out. That's not cool, that's trying to get you killed by a grue.grue.
*Every dark area is likely to be filled with grues. Does that mean that residents of the Underground Empire are forced to always have lights on, lest they get eaten by grues?
27th Dec '10 4:44:06 PM Ayasugi
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** Well, you sorta could. It's very unlikely he'll attack you unless you enter his hideout or try to take his bag. You can even give him treasures if you want.

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** Well, you sorta could. It's very unlikely he'll attack you unless you enter his hideout or try to take his bag. You can even give him treasures if you want.want.
** Remember, the thief steals the torch, i.e. the only light source in the game that doesn't eventually burn out. That's not cool, that's trying to get you killed by a grue.
1st Dec '10 3:03:29 AM RobinAdams
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* Why couldn't you make friends with the thief? He's a cool guy!

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* Why couldn't you make friends with the thief? He's a cool guy!guy!
** Well, you sorta could. It's very unlikely he'll attack you unless you enter his hideout or try to take his bag. You can even give him treasures if you want.
1st Dec '10 12:29:45 AM SickBritKid
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** Good point. In ''Spellbreaker'', it's said that even light that's very dim by human standards is painful for a grue to look at. On the other hand, some aspects of grues and their fear of light vary DependingOnTheWriter.

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** Good point. In ''Spellbreaker'', it's said that even light that's very dim by human standards is painful for a grue to look at. On the other hand, some aspects of grues and their fear of light vary DependingOnTheWriter.DependingOnTheWriter.
* Why couldn't you make friends with the thief? He's a cool guy!
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