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** The implication here is that Nemo has been driven to madness by what "the hated nation" did to his wife and child. Just who that nation is remains unclear, but it doesn't matter. Nemo makes references throughout the film to "man's laws", "civilized man", and "dealers in death": always in the third person. To him, no nation of man that fights wars or profits in some way from human misery can be above suspicion. He also sees himself as "The Avenger". Thus, Nemo hunts merchant and war ships of all nations, but he has a special loathing for ships that fly no flag from the hated nation that tormented him.
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** The implication here is that Nemo has been driven to madness by what "the hated nation" did to his wife and child. Just who that nation is remains unclear, but it doesn't matter. Nemo makes references throughout the film to "man's laws", "civilized man", and "dealers in death": always in the third person. To him, no nation of man that fights wars or profits in some way from human misery can be above suspicion. He also sees himself as "The Avenger". Thus, Nemo hunts merchant and war ships of all nations, but he has a special loathing for the flagless ships that fly no flag from the hated nation that tormented him.
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* During the movie, we find Nemo has a particular vengeance against the "ships that fly no flag" and is going after them specifically. That doesn't seem to jive with the beginning of the film, which seems to indicate that the Nautilus is capriciously attacking random ships from any and every nation on earth. For example, why does he attack the Lincoln, which is clearly an American vessel? Yeah, it's hunting him, but he could have easily avoided being found if he'd wanted to, and the stricken vessel they had just come upon wasn't.
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* During the movie, we find Nemo has a particular vengeance against the "ships that fly no flag" and is going after them specifically. That doesn't seem to jive with the beginning of the film, which seems to indicate that the Nautilus is capriciously attacking random ships from any and every nation on earth. For example, why does he attack the Lincoln, which is clearly an American vessel? Yeah, it's hunting him, but he could have easily avoided being found if he'd wanted to, and the stricken vessel they had just come upon wasn't.wasn't.
** The implication here is that Nemo has been driven to madness by what "the hated nation" did to his wife and child. Just who that nation is remains unclear, but it doesn't matter. Nemo makes references throughout the film to "man's laws", "civilized man", and "dealers in death": always in the third person. To him, no nation of man that fights wars or profits in some way from human misery can be above suspicion. He also sees himself as "The Avenger". Thus, Nemo hunts merchant and war ships of all nations, but he has a special loathing for ships that fly no flag from the hated nation that tormented him.
** The implication here is that Nemo has been driven to madness by what "the hated nation" did to his wife and child. Just who that nation is remains unclear, but it doesn't matter. Nemo makes references throughout the film to "man's laws", "civilized man", and "dealers in death": always in the third person. To him, no nation of man that fights wars or profits in some way from human misery can be above suspicion. He also sees himself as "The Avenger". Thus, Nemo hunts merchant and war ships of all nations, but he has a special loathing for ships that fly no flag from the hated nation that tormented him.
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** Easy answer: Cheap Laughs. More complex: Everyone seemed to be enjoying the meal until Nemo started pointing out exactly what it all was. Aronnax is quite willing to accept the food for what it is, Conseil tries but fails, and Ned doesn't even try. It's a basic psychological reaction: give someone something to eat, and they like it. . . tell them it's something they perceive as disgusting, they will they be disgusted, even if they enjoyed it when they didn't know what it was.
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** Easy answer: Cheap Laughs. More complex: Everyone seemed to be enjoying the meal until Nemo started pointing out exactly what it all was. Aronnax is quite willing to accept the food for what it is, Conseil tries but fails, and Ned doesn't even try. It's a basic psychological reaction: give someone something to eat, and they like it. . . tell them it's something they perceive as disgusting, they will they be disgusted, even if they enjoyed it when they didn't know what it was.was.
* During the movie, we find Nemo has a particular vengeance against the "ships that fly no flag" and is going after them specifically. That doesn't seem to jive with the beginning of the film, which seems to indicate that the Nautilus is capriciously attacking random ships from any and every nation on earth. For example, why does he attack the Farragut, which is clearly an American vessel? Yeah, it's hunting him, but he could have easily avoided being found if he'd wanted to, and the stricken vessel the Farragut had just come upon wasn't.
* During the movie, we find Nemo has a particular vengeance against the "ships that fly no flag" and is going after them specifically. That doesn't seem to jive with the beginning of the film, which seems to indicate that the Nautilus is capriciously attacking random ships from any and every nation on earth. For example, why does he attack the Farragut, which is clearly an American vessel? Yeah, it's hunting him, but he could have easily avoided being found if he'd wanted to, and the stricken vessel the Farragut had just come upon wasn't.
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** I thought exactly the same when I saw the end of the novel, Why Aronnax, model of the humble wise man who is perfectly capable of living dedicated to his work, without fame or riches, being so egostistical? But when I was writing the entry about the {{Ubermensch}} I realized that it was FridgeBrilliance: Aronnax is not referring to the bottom of the ocean: He is quoting Ecclesiastes 7:24, a passage of the Bible who claims the vanity of those who seek to be wise, powerful and happy, when those things are far for the [[{{Pride}} proud people]]. He and Captain Nemo were obsessed by his submarine studies and their need to know the truth. Aronnax really has StockholmSyndrome and hopes that his evasion could be continually postponed even when Ned Land is slowly going insane. Nemo prepares a MessageInABottle with all the knowledge he has accumulated as a legacy to humanity. They both are egotistic: When Aronnax witness the last of Nemo’s implied many MoralEventHorizon he realizes his folly: Traveling with Captain Nemo is to be accomplice of terrible crimes, and so he decides to attempt the GreatEscape as soon as possible after a last interview with Captain Nemo. Meanwhile, Captain Nemo has realized that Aronnax, the only [[NotSoDifferent inhabitant of the earth's surface with which empathizes]] has repudiated his cruelty and and is forced to admit that he is not AboveGoodAndEvil and has a VillainousBreakdown. Counseil, Ned Land and the Nautilus crew are humble people, the first two follow Aronnax and the rest follow the captain. This novel is not only a ScifiGhetto ScienceFiction history about a CoolShip and the marvels of the oceans, is AnAesop [[ScienceIsBad about how]] TheProfessor Aronnax was humbled and so could survive and how the {{Ubermensch}} Captain Nemo was destroyed himself out of guilt by the Malstrom, another of the very wonders of the ocean he so loved.
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** I thought exactly the same when I saw the end of the novel, Why Aronnax, model of the humble wise man who is perfectly capable of living dedicated to his work, without fame or riches, being so egostistical? But when I was writing the entry about the {{Ubermensch}} I realized that it was FridgeBrilliance: Aronnax is not referring to the bottom of the ocean: He is quoting Ecclesiastes 7:24, a passage of the Bible who claims the vanity of those who seek to be wise, powerful and happy, when those things are far for the [[{{Pride}} proud people]]. He and Captain Nemo were obsessed by his submarine studies and their need to know the truth. Aronnax really has StockholmSyndrome and hopes that his evasion could be continually postponed even when Ned Land is slowly going insane. Nemo prepares a MessageInABottle with all the knowledge he has accumulated as a legacy to humanity. They both are egotistic: When Aronnax witness the last of Nemo’s implied many MoralEventHorizon he realizes his folly: Traveling with Captain Nemo is to be accomplice of terrible crimes, and so he decides to attempt the GreatEscape as soon as possible after a last interview with Captain Nemo. Meanwhile, Captain Nemo has realized that Aronnax, the only [[NotSoDifferent inhabitant of the earth's surface with which empathizes]] empathizes has repudiated his cruelty and and is forced to admit that he is not AboveGoodAndEvil and has a VillainousBreakdown. Counseil, Ned Land and the Nautilus crew are humble people, the first two follow Aronnax and the rest follow the captain. This novel is not only a ScifiGhetto ScienceFiction history about a CoolShip and the marvels of the oceans, is AnAesop [[ScienceIsBad about how]] TheProfessor Aronnax was humbled and so could survive and how the {{Ubermensch}} Captain Nemo was destroyed himself out of guilt by the Malstrom, another of the very wonders of the ocean he so loved.
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** Even at the beginning of the book, Aronnax notes that among the possibilities for the mysterious sighting is a manmade submersible vehicle, though this seems ''far'' less likely than a previously-unknown deep see creature, since the resources and infrastructure required to build such a vessel is quite simply totally beyond the means of any private individual, and no government could hope to keep such a secret from all of its assorted rivals and enemies. Of course, Nemo has wealth and means and resources and infrastructure beyond most men.
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* The ForeignQueasine scene in the Disney movie. Seafood was well known in nineteenth century restaurants as well as at the time the movie was made. Why is Nemo’s sea-based menu presented as a string of horrors? Even granting he has dishes that seem like red meat such as veal and lamb, due to ValuesDissonance eating steaks made from whale or dolphin or other sea mammals would have bothered no one of that era. But instead, his table is set with a list of gross-out ingredients, including some that make no sense whatsoever, such as a dessert pudding made from sauteed baby octopus.
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* The ForeignQueasine scene in the Disney movie. Seafood was well known in nineteenth century restaurants as well as at the time the movie was made. Why is Nemo’s sea-based menu presented as a string of horrors? Even granting he has dishes that seem like red meat such as veal and lamb, due to ValuesDissonance eating steaks made from whale or dolphin or other sea mammals would have bothered no one of that era. But instead, his table is set with a list of gross-out ingredients, including some that make no sense whatsoever, such as a dessert pudding made from sauteed baby octopus.octopus.
** Easy answer: Cheap Laughs. More complex: Everyone seemed to be enjoying the meal until Nemo started pointing out exactly what it all was. Aronnax is quite willing to accept the food for what it is, Conseil tries but fails, and Ned doesn't even try. It's a basic psychological reaction: give someone something to eat, and they like it. . . tell them it's something they perceive as disgusting, they will they be disgusted, even if they enjoyed it when they didn't know what it was.
** Easy answer: Cheap Laughs. More complex: Everyone seemed to be enjoying the meal until Nemo started pointing out exactly what it all was. Aronnax is quite willing to accept the food for what it is, Conseil tries but fails, and Ned doesn't even try. It's a basic psychological reaction: give someone something to eat, and they like it. . . tell them it's something they perceive as disgusting, they will they be disgusted, even if they enjoyed it when they didn't know what it was.
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** Ballast is also used to keep ships in trim, i.e. floating upright without a list to one side. It’s probable that the treasure rooms were for ballast of this sort, permanent weights separate from the tanks that empty and refill as the ship surfaces and dives.
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* Are there any fanon theories that account for the timeline discrepancy between ''The Mysterious Island'' and ''20K Leagues'' without making the "Nemo" in each story a separate character? I know the Wold Newton article "A Submersible Subterfuge" is pretty well-known, but it has the two Nemos being different people.
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* Are there any fanon theories that account for the timeline discrepancy between ''The Mysterious Island'' and ''20K Leagues'' without making the "Nemo" in each story a separate character? I know the Wold Newton article "A Submersible Subterfuge" is pretty well-known, but it has the two Nemos being different people.people.
* The ForeignQueasine scene in the Disney movie. Seafood was well known in nineteenth century restaurants as well as at the time the movie was made. Why is Nemo’s sea-based menu presented as a string of horrors? Even granting he has dishes that seem like red meat such as veal and lamb, due to ValuesDissonance eating steaks made from whale or dolphin or other sea mammals would have bothered no one of that era. But instead, his table is set with a list of gross-out ingredients, including some that make no sense whatsoever, such as a dessert pudding made from sauteed baby octopus.
* The ForeignQueasine scene in the Disney movie. Seafood was well known in nineteenth century restaurants as well as at the time the movie was made. Why is Nemo’s sea-based menu presented as a string of horrors? Even granting he has dishes that seem like red meat such as veal and lamb, due to ValuesDissonance eating steaks made from whale or dolphin or other sea mammals would have bothered no one of that era. But instead, his table is set with a list of gross-out ingredients, including some that make no sense whatsoever, such as a dessert pudding made from sauteed baby octopus.
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** Arronax actually mentions that it's likely Farragut realized they were hunting a submarine, not a narwhal and spread the news. As for being thought crazy, Arronax was a respected professor (it's the reason he was invited on the narwhal hunt at the last minute), there's little reason he'd be disbelieved. TheMysteriousIsland shows that word got out about Nemo later.
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** Arronax actually mentions that it's likely Farragut realized they were hunting a submarine, not a narwhal and spread the news. As for being thought crazy, Arronax was a respected professor (it's the reason he was invited on the narwhal hunt at the last minute), there's little reason he'd be disbelieved. TheMysteriousIsland ''Literature/TheMysteriousIsland'' shows that word got out about Nemo later.
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* In the Disney adaptation, it's revealed that Nemo uses treasure as ballast, much to Ned's chagrin. So after they jettison the treasure, how do they get back underwater to pick up more? There is a reason ballast tanks use water.
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* In the Disney adaptation, it's revealed that Nemo uses treasure as ballast, much to Ned's chagrin. So after they jettison the treasure, how do they get back underwater to pick up more? There is a reason ballast tanks use water.water.
* Are there any fanon theories that account for the timeline discrepancy between ''The Mysterious Island'' and ''20K Leagues'' without making the "Nemo" in each story a separate character? I know the Wold Newton article "A Submersible Subterfuge" is pretty well-known, but it has the two Nemos being different people.
* Are there any fanon theories that account for the timeline discrepancy between ''The Mysterious Island'' and ''20K Leagues'' without making the "Nemo" in each story a separate character? I know the Wold Newton article "A Submersible Subterfuge" is pretty well-known, but it has the two Nemos being different people.
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** I also believe this, that Verne referred Nemo and Aronnax only because they were the true scientist on board (and also the main characters). The aesop at the end of the novel was more or less ordered by Verne's editor, Jules Hetzel, and the horror Aronnax feels when Nemo sinks the warship chasig them is a custom horror; Hetzel was tring to publish young adult novels so he needed {{an aesop}}, a unambiguous condenm of Nemo´s attitude. What was Verne´s original idea? We don´t know, but what is clear is that Nemo was, more or less, an {{Author Avatar}}. Also, b that time, Verne still believed in the power of science. He only developed the pesimistic idea of {{Science is bad}} way more later.
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** I also believe this, that Verne referred Nemo and Aronnax only because they were the true scientist on board (and also the main characters). The aesop at the end of the novel was more or less ordered by Verne's editor, Jules Hetzel, and the horror Aronnax feels when Nemo sinks the warship chasig them is a custom horror; Hetzel was tring to publish young adult novels so he needed {{an aesop}}, a unambiguous condenm of Nemo´s attitude. What was Verne´s Verne's original idea? We don´t don't know, but what is clear is that Nemo was, more or less, an {{Author Avatar}}. Also, b by that time, Verne still believed in the power of science. He only developed the pesimistic idea of {{Science is bad}} way more later.
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**I also believe this, that Verne referred Nemo and Aronnax only because they were the true scientist on board (and also the main characters). The aesop at the end of the novel was more or less ordered by Verne's editor, Jules Hetzel, and the horror Aronnax feels when Nemo sinks the warship chasig them is a custom horror; Hetzel was tring to publish young adult novels so he needed {{an aesop}}, a unambiguous condenm of Nemo´s attitude. What was Verne´s original idea? We don´t know, but what is clear is that Nemo was, more or less, an {{Author Avatar}}. Also, b that time, Verne still believed in the power of science. He only developed the pesimistic idea of {{Science is bad}} way more later.
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** Arronax actually mentions that it's likely Farragut realized they were hunting a submarine, not a narwhal and spread the news. As for being thought crazy, Arronax was a respected professor (it's the reason he was invited on the narwhal hunt at the last minute), there's little reason he'd be disbelieved. TheMysteriousIsland shows that word got out about Nemo later.
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** Arronax actually mentions that it's likely Farragut realized they were hunting a submarine, not a narwhal and spread the news. As for being thought crazy, Arronax was a respected professor (it's the reason he was invited on the narwhal hunt at the last minute), there's little reason he'd be disbelieved. TheMysteriousIsland shows that word got out about Nemo later.later.
* In the Disney adaptation, it's revealed that Nemo uses treasure as ballast, much to Ned's chagrin. So after they jettison the treasure, how do they get back underwater to pick up more? There is a reason ballast tanks use water.
* In the Disney adaptation, it's revealed that Nemo uses treasure as ballast, much to Ned's chagrin. So after they jettison the treasure, how do they get back underwater to pick up more? There is a reason ballast tanks use water.
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* Maybe more WMG-fodder than Headscratchers, but-- assuming Aronnax, Conseil and Land do manage to get back to civilization on the steamer and the manuscript is published or at least shared with newspapers, how likely is the public to believe them? On the one hand, the idea that the ''Nautilus'' was artificial at all seems to have never come up in all of the discussions we were told raged about the nature of the sea monster before the navy expedition (and the navy clearly thought it was a living creature), and it's clearly beyond the technology of the day, so people might just think the whole thing was impossible and Aronnax was crazy or making things up. On the other-- three men who disappeared in (I think) the mid-Pacific ''did'' somehow end up in a remote part of Norway with no one having seen them traveling there by any conventional means (or having seen them at all for ten months), which a secret super-submarine would explain...
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* Maybe more WMG-fodder than Headscratchers, but-- assuming Aronnax, Conseil and Land do manage to get back to civilization on the steamer and the manuscript is published or at least shared with newspapers, how likely is the public to believe them? On the one hand, the idea that the ''Nautilus'' was artificial at all seems to have never come up in all of the discussions we were told raged about the nature of the sea monster before the navy expedition (and the navy clearly thought it was a living creature), and it's clearly beyond the technology of the day, so people might just think the whole thing was impossible and Aronnax was crazy or making things up. On the other-- three men who disappeared in (I think) the mid-Pacific ''did'' somehow end up in a remote part of Norway with no one having seen them traveling there by any conventional means (or having seen them at all for ten months), which a secret super-submarine would explain...explain...
** Arronax actually mentions that it's likely Farragut realized they were hunting a submarine, not a narwhal and spread the news. As for being thought crazy, Arronax was a respected professor (it's the reason he was invited on the narwhal hunt at the last minute), there's little reason he'd be disbelieved. TheMysteriousIsland shows that word got out about Nemo later.
** Arronax actually mentions that it's likely Farragut realized they were hunting a submarine, not a narwhal and spread the news. As for being thought crazy, Arronax was a respected professor (it's the reason he was invited on the narwhal hunt at the last minute), there's little reason he'd be disbelieved. TheMysteriousIsland shows that word got out about Nemo later.
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*** Or perhaps the injured guy ''is'' the medic. Who knows ?
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*** Thinking about it, it's entirely possible Nemo organized the hunting expeditions as a way to allow his crew to let off some steam and stop them from going too stir crazy. Which, by his standards, would be far from needless. Also, he doesn't like sperm whales for some unknown reason.
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*** Thinking about it, it's entirely possible Nemo organized the hunting expeditions as a way to allow his crew to let off some steam and stop them from going too stir crazy. Which, by his standards, would be far from needless. Also, he doesn't like sperm whales for some unknown reason.reason.
* Maybe more WMG-fodder than Headscratchers, but-- assuming Aronnax, Conseil and Land do manage to get back to civilization on the steamer and the manuscript is published or at least shared with newspapers, how likely is the public to believe them? On the one hand, the idea that the ''Nautilus'' was artificial at all seems to have never come up in all of the discussions we were told raged about the nature of the sea monster before the navy expedition (and the navy clearly thought it was a living creature), and it's clearly beyond the technology of the day, so people might just think the whole thing was impossible and Aronnax was crazy or making things up. On the other-- three men who disappeared in (I think) the mid-Pacific ''did'' somehow end up in a remote part of Norway with no one having seen them traveling there by any conventional means (or having seen them at all for ten months), which a secret super-submarine would explain...
* Maybe more WMG-fodder than Headscratchers, but-- assuming Aronnax, Conseil and Land do manage to get back to civilization on the steamer and the manuscript is published or at least shared with newspapers, how likely is the public to believe them? On the one hand, the idea that the ''Nautilus'' was artificial at all seems to have never come up in all of the discussions we were told raged about the nature of the sea monster before the navy expedition (and the navy clearly thought it was a living creature), and it's clearly beyond the technology of the day, so people might just think the whole thing was impossible and Aronnax was crazy or making things up. On the other-- three men who disappeared in (I think) the mid-Pacific ''did'' somehow end up in a remote part of Norway with no one having seen them traveling there by any conventional means (or having seen them at all for ten months), which a secret super-submarine would explain...
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** He could have either died, as the coral cemetery is described as having lots of graves, or maybe Nemo's crew didn't include one. Or maybe there ''is'' one, but he was injured too or perhaps he wasn't good at repairing severe head wounds.
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*** Thinking about it, it's entirely possible Nemo organized the hunting expeditions as a way to allow his crew to let off some steam and stop them from going too stir crazy. Which, by his standards, would be far from needless. Also, he doesn't like sperm whales for some unknown reason.
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** Maybe they would make penguin jerky to save the rest for prolonged periods without food?
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* What Sperm whales and endangered animals aside, what kind of microscopic penguin do you need to kill several ''hundred'' of to feed a crew of under twenty men? Because, of course, Captain Nemo "doesn't like killing animals needlessly."
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* What kind of microscopic penguin do you need to kill several hundred of to feed a crew of under twenty men?
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** I just thought that it was because Nemo and Aronnax were the only scientists on board making a study of the ocean, the only ones who could 'find it out'. But I'm sure the technical answer above is more accurate.
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* How is it that the Nautilus lacks a medic?
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** I thought exactly the same when I saw the end of the novel, Why Aronnax, model of the humble wise man who is perfectly capable of living dedicated to his work, without fame or riches, being so egostistical? But when I was writing the entry about the {{Ubermensch}} I realized that it was FridgeBrilliance: Aronnax is not referring to the bottom of the ocean: He is quoting Ecclesiastes 7:24, a passage of the Bible who claims the vanity of those who seek to be wise, powerful and happy, when those things are far for the [[{{Pride}} proud people]]. He and Captain Nemo were obsessed by his submarine studies and their need to know the truth. Aronnax really has StockholmSyndrome and hopes that his evasion could be continually postponed even when Ned Land is slowly going insane. Nemo prepares a MessageInABottle with all the knowledge he has accumulated as a legacy to humanity. They both are egotistic: When Aronnax witness the last of Nemo’s implied many MoralEventHorizon he realizes his folly: Traveling with Captain Nemo is to be accomplice of terrible crimes, and so he decides to attempt the GreatEscape as soon as possible after a last interview with Captain Nemo. Meanwhile, Captain Nemo has realized that Aronnax, the only [[NotSoDifferent inhabitant of the earth's surface with which empathizes]] has repudiated his cruelty and and is forced to admit that he is not BeyondGoodAndEvil and has a VillainousBreakdown. Counseil, Ned Land and the Nautilus crew are humble people, the first two follow Aronnax and the rest follow the captain. This novel is not only a ScifiGhetto ScienceFiction history about a CoolShip and the marvels of the oceans, is AnAesop [[ScienceIsBad about how]] TheProfessor Aronnax was humbled and so could survive and how the {{Ubermensch}} Captain Nemo was destroyed himself out of guilt by the Malstrom, another of the very wonders of the ocean he so loved.
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** I thought exactly the same when I saw the end of the novel, Why Aronnax, model of the humble wise man who is perfectly capable of living dedicated to his work, without fame or riches, being so egostistical? But when I was writing the entry about the {{Ubermensch}} I realized that it was FridgeBrilliance: Aronnax is not referring to the bottom of the ocean: He is quoting Ecclesiastes 7:24, a passage of the Bible who claims the vanity of those who seek to be wise, powerful and happy, when those things are far for the [[{{Pride}} proud people]]. He and Captain Nemo were obsessed by his submarine studies and their need to know the truth. Aronnax really has StockholmSyndrome and hopes that his evasion could be continually postponed even when Ned Land is slowly going insane. Nemo prepares a MessageInABottle with all the knowledge he has accumulated as a legacy to humanity. They both are egotistic: When Aronnax witness the last of Nemo’s implied many MoralEventHorizon he realizes his folly: Traveling with Captain Nemo is to be accomplice of terrible crimes, and so he decides to attempt the GreatEscape as soon as possible after a last interview with Captain Nemo. Meanwhile, Captain Nemo has realized that Aronnax, the only [[NotSoDifferent inhabitant of the earth's surface with which empathizes]] has repudiated his cruelty and and is forced to admit that he is not BeyondGoodAndEvil AboveGoodAndEvil and has a VillainousBreakdown. Counseil, Ned Land and the Nautilus crew are humble people, the first two follow Aronnax and the rest follow the captain. This novel is not only a ScifiGhetto ScienceFiction history about a CoolShip and the marvels of the oceans, is AnAesop [[ScienceIsBad about how]] TheProfessor Aronnax was humbled and so could survive and how the {{Ubermensch}} Captain Nemo was destroyed himself out of guilt by the Malstrom, another of the very wonders of the ocean he so loved.
