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* The movie makes extra effort to show us that the people on the ground are affected by the battle between the turtles and Shredder on top of Sacks' tower - people are screaming and dodging falling debris and the police are pulling out assault rifles and such as if it's an armed bank robbery. But why on Earth did no one, not even a news reporting agency (like, I don't know, Channel 6 News), think of sending a helicopter up to see what's going on, when clearly some serious stuff is hitting the fan? This isn't the Avengers, where flying spaceships would shoot down aircraft in the area, so there doesn't seem to be a reason why no one can fly a helicopter over to see what's going on. Did Sacks pay off all of the news agencies agencies or something? I know it would ruin the 'turtles have to stay anonymous' plot point, but is there a reasonable in-universe explanation for mass news media complacency?
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* The movie makes extra effort to show us that the people on the ground are affected by the battle between the turtles and Shredder on top of Sacks' tower - people are screaming and dodging falling debris and the police are pulling out assault rifles and such as if it's an armed bank robbery. But why on Earth did no one, not even a news reporting agency (like, I don't know, Channel 6 News), think of sending a helicopter up to see what's going on, when clearly some serious stuff is hitting the fan? This isn't the Avengers, where flying spaceships would shoot down aircraft in the area, so there doesn't seem to be a reason why no one can fly a helicopter over to see what's going on. Did Sacks pay off all of the news agencies agencies or something? I know it would ruin the 'turtles have to stay anonymous' plot point, but is there a reasonable in-universe explanation for mass news media complacency?complacency?
** Everything takes time. Choppers can't be there instantly -- and police often won't call the media until they know what's going on. Unless someone is in the know, or a chopper's already in the air, it can take most of an hour to get coverage.
** Everything takes time. Choppers can't be there instantly -- and police often won't call the media until they know what's going on. Unless someone is in the know, or a chopper's already in the air, it can take most of an hour to get coverage.
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** Donny might be the smart one of the group, but when it comes right down to it, he's not a doctor or a trained medical professional. He's a teenager, one who probably learned most of what he knows of medicine off of WebMD or some equivalent site. In the foggy, confused mental state he was in when he gave that advice, it was probably the one thing that made sense to suggest.
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** Donny might be the smart one of the group, but when it comes right down to it, he's not a doctor or a trained medical professional. He's a teenager, one who [[ButIReadABookAboutIt probably learned most of what he knows of medicine off of WebMD or some equivalent site.site]]. In the foggy, confused mental state he was in when he gave that advice, it was probably the one thing that made sense to suggest.
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** While this may be a stretch, it's possible Splinter manufactured them with raw materials he found in the sewer.
*** My guess would be that he found them perhaps not in the sewer/storm-drain/streets/whatever but at a local dump it's not hard to purchase such things and crazier stuff has been "just thrown away" but how they are still usable is kinda odd since Donatello's brand of MacGyvering probably shouldn't include weaponsmiting.
*** My guess would be that he found them perhaps not in the sewer/storm-drain/streets/whatever but at a local dump it's not hard to purchase such things and crazier stuff has been "just thrown away" but how they are still usable is kinda odd since Donatello's brand of MacGyvering probably shouldn't include weaponsmiting.
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** While this may be a stretch, it's possible Splinter manufactured them with raw materials he found in the sewer.
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*** So, he [[Film/IronMan built them... in a sewer... with a box of scraps?]]
** My guess would be that he foundthem them, perhaps not in the sewer/storm-drain/streets/whatever sewer/storm-drain/streets/whatever, but at a local dump it's dump. It's not hard to purchase such things things, and crazier stuff has been "just thrown away" but how away" . How they are still usable is kinda odd odd, since Donatello's brand of MacGyvering probably shouldn't include weaponsmiting.weaponsmithing.
*** So, he [[Film/IronMan built them... in a sewer... with a box of scraps?]]
** My guess would be that he found
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* Added adrenaline is a dangerous thing anyway. Considering the amount they're given under the hideously low blood pressure the turtles should have had three heart attacks in a matter of minutes. You'd think Donny, being a genius, would know that?
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* Added adrenaline is a dangerous thing anyway. Considering the amount they're given under the hideously low blood pressure the turtles should have had three heart attacks in a matter of minutes. You'd think Donny, being a genius, would know that?that?
** Donny might be the smart one of the group, but when it comes right down to it, he's not a doctor or a trained medical professional. He's a teenager, one who probably learned most of what he knows of medicine off of WebMD or some equivalent site. In the foggy, confused mental state he was in when he gave that advice, it was probably the one thing that made sense to suggest.
* The movie makes extra effort to show us that the people on the ground are affected by the battle between the turtles and Shredder on top of Sacks' tower - people are screaming and dodging falling debris and the police are pulling out assault rifles and such as if it's an armed bank robbery. But why on Earth did no one, not even a news reporting agency (like, I don't know, Channel 6 News), think of sending a helicopter up to see what's going on, when clearly some serious stuff is hitting the fan? This isn't the Avengers, where flying spaceships would shoot down aircraft in the area, so there doesn't seem to be a reason why no one can fly a helicopter over to see what's going on. Did Sacks pay off all of the news agencies agencies or something? I know it would ruin the 'turtles have to stay anonymous' plot point, but is there a reasonable in-universe explanation for mass news media complacency?
** Donny might be the smart one of the group, but when it comes right down to it, he's not a doctor or a trained medical professional. He's a teenager, one who probably learned most of what he knows of medicine off of WebMD or some equivalent site. In the foggy, confused mental state he was in when he gave that advice, it was probably the one thing that made sense to suggest.
* The movie makes extra effort to show us that the people on the ground are affected by the battle between the turtles and Shredder on top of Sacks' tower - people are screaming and dodging falling debris and the police are pulling out assault rifles and such as if it's an armed bank robbery. But why on Earth did no one, not even a news reporting agency (like, I don't know, Channel 6 News), think of sending a helicopter up to see what's going on, when clearly some serious stuff is hitting the fan? This isn't the Avengers, where flying spaceships would shoot down aircraft in the area, so there doesn't seem to be a reason why no one can fly a helicopter over to see what's going on. Did Sacks pay off all of the news agencies agencies or something? I know it would ruin the 'turtles have to stay anonymous' plot point, but is there a reasonable in-universe explanation for mass news media complacency?
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** Generally it's agreed that to make both Shredder and Splinter look more awesome, the four turtles must always need all four of them working as a team to beat the Shredder.
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** It seems a safe bet that he did, given the transformations and their past at the lab. As to why he wasn't a target, remember that they only knew about the turtles, since April only told Sacks about them, not knowing about Splinter being alive at that point. There's also the fact that Splinter was going one-on-one with The Shredder, so he may have been considered too dangerous to capture; following that, he was left for dead either way, just like Raph was when they took the other Turtles.
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** It seems a safe bet that he did, given the transformations and their past at the lab. As to why he wasn't a target, remember that they only knew about the turtles, since April only told Sacks about them, not knowing about Splinter being alive at that point. There's also the fact that Splinter was going one-on-one with The Shredder, so he may have been considered too dangerous to capture; following that, he was left for dead either way, just like Raph was when they took the other Turtles.Turtles.
* Added adrenaline is a dangerous thing anyway. Considering the amount they're given under the hideously low blood pressure the turtles should have had three heart attacks in a matter of minutes. You'd think Donny, being a genius, would know that?
* Added adrenaline is a dangerous thing anyway. Considering the amount they're given under the hideously low blood pressure the turtles should have had three heart attacks in a matter of minutes. You'd think Donny, being a genius, would know that?
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** The Turtles are more reliable due to their being four, they can be sure of the same compound. Also as they're younger, they can survive the process longer, and therefore get more mutagen.
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** The Turtles are more reliable due to their being four, they can be sure of the same compound. Also as they're younger, they can survive the process longer, and therefore get more mutagen.mutagen.
** It seems a safe bet that he did, given the transformations and their past at the lab. As to why he wasn't a target, remember that they only knew about the turtles, since April only told Sacks about them, not knowing about Splinter being alive at that point. There's also the fact that Splinter was going one-on-one with The Shredder, so he may have been considered too dangerous to capture; following that, he was left for dead either way, just like Raph was when they took the other Turtles.
** It seems a safe bet that he did, given the transformations and their past at the lab. As to why he wasn't a target, remember that they only knew about the turtles, since April only told Sacks about them, not knowing about Splinter being alive at that point. There's also the fact that Splinter was going one-on-one with The Shredder, so he may have been considered too dangerous to capture; following that, he was left for dead either way, just like Raph was when they took the other Turtles.
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* Shouldn't Splinter have mutagen too? I mean, the Foot show no interest in capturing him, and there's a line about how the mutagen can "save" him, but...HE'S A GIANT NINJA RAT! DID HE GET THAT WAY THROUGH SOME OTHER MEANS!?!
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* Shouldn't Splinter have mutagen too? I mean, the Foot show no interest in capturing him, and there's a line about how the mutagen can "save" him, but...HE'S A GIANT NINJA RAT! DID HE GET THAT WAY THROUGH SOME OTHER
** The Turtles are more reliable due to their being four, they can be sure of the same compound. Also as they're younger, they can survive the process longer, and therefore get more mutagen.
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** Also it's a really shitty picture that doesn't really show much.
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** He ordered them online? Remember this is set in 2014. They could all have online jobs to get money and you can order combat ready martial arts weapons if you know where to look. P.O. box address at an isolated location where they could disable the security cameras. This day and age it'd be easy.
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* Shouldn't Shredder have mutagen too? I mean, the Foot show no interest in capturing him, and there's a line about how the mutagen can "save" him, but...HE'S A GIANT NINJA RAT! DID HE GET THAT WAY THROUGH SOME OTHER MEANS!?!
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* Shouldn't Shredder Splinter have mutagen too? I mean, the Foot show no interest in capturing him, and there's a line about how the mutagen can "save" him, but...HE'S A GIANT NINJA RAT! DID HE GET THAT WAY THROUGH SOME OTHER MEANS!?!
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* Who flushes a martial arts book down into the sewer?
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* Who flushes a martial arts book down into the sewer?sewer?
* Shouldn't Shredder have mutagen too? I mean, the Foot show no interest in capturing him, and there's a line about how the mutagen can "save" him, but...HE'S A GIANT NINJA RAT! DID HE GET THAT WAY THROUGH SOME OTHER MEANS!?!
* Shouldn't Shredder have mutagen too? I mean, the Foot show no interest in capturing him, and there's a line about how the mutagen can "save" him, but...HE'S A GIANT NINJA RAT! DID HE GET THAT WAY THROUGH SOME OTHER MEANS!?!
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*** [[SincerityMode I believe you hit the nail on the head there.]]
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*** [[SincerityMode I believe you hit the nail on the head there.]]]]
* Who flushes a martial arts book down into the sewer?
* Who flushes a martial arts book down into the sewer?
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** Even if she did show it to her, it might not have made much difference. The picture could've been photoshopped, for all she knows.
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** [[FridgeBrilliance That may be the point]]. The Turtles being disorganized and not very well united in battle is a running theme (what with Raphael and Leo's bickering), and this is evidenced by them attacking separately (and subsequently get their asses kicked), but ''then'' they decide to fight together and united as one (with things like the "buck buck" tactic and the human rope to save April), and it is only then they achieve success against the Shredder.
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** [[FridgeBrilliance That may be the point]]. The Turtles being disorganized and not very well united in battle is a running theme (what with Raphael and Leo's bickering), and this is evidenced by them attacking separately (and subsequently get their asses kicked), but ''then'' they decide to fight together and united as one (with things like the "buck buck" tactic and the human rope to save April), and it is only then they achieve success against the Shredder.Shredder.
*** [[SincerityMode I believe you hit the nail on the head there.]]
*** [[SincerityMode I believe you hit the nail on the head there.]]
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***Yes, there was a tracker in the business card Sacks gave April. There's a blink-and-you'll-miss-it moment where she whips it out, as Splinter explains that Sacks is in league with the Foot, right before a cut to the Foot actually using magic surveillance technology to localize them.
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** [[FridgeBrilliance That may be the point]]. The Turtles being disorganized and not very well united in battle is a running theme (what with Raphael and Leo's bickering), and this is evidenced by them attacking separately (and susbequently get their asses kicked), but ''then'' they decide to fight together and united as one (with things like the "buck buck" tactic and the human rope to save April), and it is only then they achieve success against the Shredder.
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** [[FridgeBrilliance That may be the point]]. The Turtles being disorganized and not very well united in battle is a running theme (what with Raphael and Leo's bickering), and this is evidenced by them attacking separately (and susbequently subsequently get their asses kicked), but ''then'' they decide to fight together and united as one (with things like the "buck buck" tactic and the human rope to save April), and it is only then they achieve success against the Shredder.
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*** My guess would be that he found them perhaps not in the sewer/storm-drain/streets/whatever but at a local dump it's not hard to purchase such things and crazier stuff has been "just thrown away" but how they are still usable is kinda odd since Donatello's brand of MacGyvering probably shouldn't include weaponsmiting.
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*** My guess would be that he found them perhaps not in the sewer/storm-drain/streets/whatever but at a local dump it's not hard to purchase such things and crazier stuff has been "just thrown away" but how they are still usable is kinda odd since Donatello's brand of MacGyvering probably shouldn't include weaponsmiting.
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** Raiding Foot safe houses for supplies? Splinter apparently heard their plans as a rat, and they were monitoring the Foot in the present.
** Raiding Foot safe houses for supplies? Splinter apparently heard their plans as a rat, and they were monitoring the Foot in the present.
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then again how does one make holographic displays at home?
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*** My guess would be that he found them perhaps not in the sewer/storm-drain/streets/whatever but at a local dump it's not hard to purchase such things and crazier stuff has been "just thrown away" but how they are still usable is kinda odd since Donatello's brand of MacGyvering probably shouldn't include weaponsmiting.
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** While this may be a stretch, it's possible Splinter manufactured them with raw materials he found in the sewer.
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** I assume she ''intended'' to, and her initial conversation with Bernadette was simply to introduce the general concept of giant goddamn Turtles and ''then'' provide solid evidence with the picture (you can see April started off with the basic, describing who the Turtles were, then evolved to more solid stuff like the repeated markings and such), but Bernadette cut her off mid-way through and fired her. She did make note that she hadn't slept, her mind probably wasn't at top form.
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** [[FridgeBrilliance That may be the point]]. The Turtles being disorganized and not very well united in battle is a running theme (what with Raphael and Leo's bickering), and this is evidenced by them attacking separately (and susbequently get their asses kicked), but ''then'' they decide to fight together and united as one (with things like the "buck buck" tactic and the human rope to save April), and it is only then they achieve success against the Shredder.
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Tracker in the business card, I thought.
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** Tracker in the business card, I thought.
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** A regular TrackingDevice on [[spoiler: Sack's [[MyCard business card]]?]]
** Yeah, they even have April pull it out, realizing that's what they tracked.
** Yeah, they even have April pull it out, realizing that's what they tracked.
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** Because she wouldn't have believed her, or would've dismissed as a 'shop, anyway. Why didn't April interviewed the other people rescued from the Foot? Beats me.
*** April said she had been up the whole night without any sleep. It's safe to assume she was clearly not in a state of mind to think so clearly at the moment.
*** April said she had been up the whole night without any sleep. It's safe to assume she was clearly not in a state of mind to think so clearly at the moment.
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*** April said she had been up the whole night without any sleep. It's safe to assume she was clearly not in a state of mind to think so clearly at the moment.
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** Not on purpose -- the fight starts with Shredder knocking three of them on their asses, so they basically fight him as they're each getting up, and he's knocking them back down.
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*** April said she had been up the whole night without any sleep. It's safe to assume she was clearly not in a state of mind to think so clearly at the moment.
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* Why were the Turtles attacking Shredder one-at-a-time during the big fight? I thought they were supposed to be a team, not common villain mooks.
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* Why were the Turtles attacking Shredder one-at-a-time during the big fight? I thought they were supposed to be a team, not common villain mooks.mooks.
** Not on purpose -- the fight starts with Shredder knocking three of them on their asses, so they basically fight him as they're each getting up, and he's knocking them back down.
** Not on purpose -- the fight starts with Shredder knocking three of them on their asses, so they basically fight him as they're each getting up, and he's knocking them back down.
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** Because she wouldn't have believed her, or would've dismissed as a 'shop, anyway. Why didn't April interviewed the other people rescued from the Foot? Beats me.
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** Because she wouldn't have believed her, or would've dismissed as a 'shop, anyway. Why didn't April interviewed the other people rescued from the Foot? Beats me.me.
* Why were the Turtles attacking Shredder one-at-a-time during the big fight? I thought they were supposed to be a team, not common villain mooks.
* Why were the Turtles attacking Shredder one-at-a-time during the big fight? I thought they were supposed to be a team, not common villain mooks.
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** He either found them somewhere or stole them.
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** A regular {{TrackingDevice}} on [[spoiler: Sack's [[MyCard business card]]?]]
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** Yeah, they even have April pull it out, realizing that's what they tracked.
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**Because she wouldn't have believed her, or would've dismissed as a 'shop, anyway. Why didn't April interviewed the other people rescued from the Foot? Beats me.
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* Can somebody please explain whatever wacky {{Technobabble}} the Foot used to instantly find the Turtles!?Turtles?
* Why in the name of Krang didn't April show Bernadette the photo she had of the Tutrles jumping across the rooftops!?
* Why in the name of Krang didn't April show Bernadette the photo she had of the Tutrles jumping across the rooftops!?
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* So uhh...where did Splinter get those weapons?
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* So uhh...where did Splinter get those weapons?weapons?
* Can somebody please explain whatever wacky {{Technobabble}} the Foot used to instantly find the Turtles!?
* Can somebody please explain whatever wacky {{Technobabble}} the Foot used to instantly find the Turtles!?
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* So uhh...where did Splinter get those weapons?
