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*** Maybe it was the opposite, and they chose him BECAUSE he was a serial killer. Maybe This Troper is I'm a little idealistic, but he likes I like the idea that the Predators would find his habit of targeting the weak and defenseless offensive, so they brought him up to put him down like a rabid dog.
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** Probably 2009 at the latest, given that Nikolai has come from the war in Chechnya, which ended that year. Of course, that's not accounting for any relativistic effects involved in getting them to the game preserve moon - years may have passed on Earth while they were in transit.
** Probably 2009 at the latest, given that Nikolai has come from the war in Chechnya, which ended that year. Of course, that's not accounting for any relativistic effects involved in getting them to the game preserve moon - years may have passed on Earth while they were in transit.
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* Royce has his AA-12 slung across his back. When parachuting he lands on his back then bounces on to his right side. How did landing on the shotgun and drum magazine at that speed not snap his spine in 2 or 3 places?
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* Royce has his AA-12 slung across his back. When parachuting he lands on his back then bounces on to his right side. How did landing on the shotgun and drum magazine at that speed not snap his spine in 2 or 3 places?places?
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** We never see what Edwin was doing prior to getting kidnapped. Just because the only thing he had with him was a scalpel doesn't mean he wasn't in the middle of a murder spree when captured. Or he might have had a small arsenal of weapons he dropped while screaming in free fall.
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* Royce has his AA-12 slung across his back. When parachuting he lands on his back then bounces on to his right side. How did landing on the shotgun and drum magazine at that speed not snap his spine in 2 or 3 places?
* Royce has his AA-12 slung across his back. When parachuting he lands on his back then bounces on to his right side. How did landing on the shotgun and drum magazine at that speed not snap his spine in 2 or 3 places?
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*** Or maybe his serial-killer side is cunning enough to have caught on quick that the Predators preferentially target armed victims, so he was ''playing up'' his wimpishness the whole time to divert their attention onto others in the group. If he never even takes his blade out of its case until he's alone with a potential victim of his own, then ''he'' doesn't have to fear anything but the hounds and booby traps.
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*** Nikolai was using a captured enemy M134 Minigun, and the predators abducted him while he was still holding the minigun.
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*** Nikolai was using a captured enemy M134 Minigun, and the predators abducted him while he was still holding the minigun.minigun.
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*** Or he scrounged it off a corpse shortly before running into the other group members.
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*** They could have been just watching areas prone to crime and then kept tabs on whoever proved interesting until they needed new prey. Between their cloaking technology and their helmets visual abilities they can watch over a surprisingly large amount of land without exposing themselves.
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** If I recall correctly, the script had Nikolai wielding a GShG-7.62, but evidently the prop department couldn't get ahold of one and so the Minigun was used as a substitute.
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*** Nikolai was using a captured enemy M134 Minigun, and the predators abducted him while he was still holding the minigun.
*** Nikolai was using a captured enemy M134 Minigun, and the predators abducted him while he was still holding the minigun.
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* Why would a Russian Spetnaz soldier fighting in the Chechenean War, be armed with an american gun? This is extra odd considering that the Russians do have direct equivalent to the M134 Minigun, the GShG-7.62.
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** If I recall correctly, the script had Nikolai wielding a GShG-7.62, but evidently the prop department couldn't get ahold of one and so the Minigun was used as a substitute.
** If I recall correctly, the script had Nikolai wielding a GShG-7.62, but evidently the prop department couldn't get ahold of one and so the Minigun was used as a substitute.
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** Given these Predators are insinuated to be criminals by their standards, it's likely they just grabbed Edwin to have something hunt - not unlike poachers who simply bag animals to have them rather than properly hunt them.
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** Noland says it when he meets the group: he not the one you want to fuck with. The big Predator most likely acknowledged that, did not want to play around with such a dangerous prey, and instead went for a sure kill.
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** It's also possible they never particularly intended to engage the small-blade fighters in the group themselves, but tossed them into the mix to give their ''hounds'' something to scrap with. The dog-creatures weren't armored, and knife-vs-teeth is more of a fair fight than knife-vs-laser cannon.
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** It's also possible they never particularly intended to engage the small-blade fighters in the group themselves, but tossed them into the mix to give their ''hounds'' something to scrap with. The dog-creatures weren't armored, and knife-vs-teeth is more of a fair fight than knife-vs-laser cannon.cannon.
*Why would a Russian Spetnaz soldier fighting in the Chechenean War, be armed with an american gun? This extra odd considering that the Russians do have direct equivalent to the M134 Minigun, the GShG-7.62.
*Why would a Russian Spetnaz soldier fighting in the Chechenean War, be armed with an american gun? This extra odd considering that the Russians do have direct equivalent to the M134 Minigun, the GShG-7.62.
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*** Or maybe they put Edwin in the group to ''observe'' him, to see if he could outsmart the other people in his group long enough to isolate and kill one or more of them. The Predators themselves don't prey on the defenseless, so they've never developed methods of doing such a thing and they're curious about how human serial killers accomplish such a task. The fact that Edwin was placed with a group that included a woman may have been deliberate, if so.
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*** Or maybe they put Edwin in the group to ''observe'' him, to see if he could outsmart the other people in his group long enough to isolate and kill one or more of them. The Predators themselves don't prey on the defenseless, so they've never developed methods of doing such a thing and they're curious about how human serial killers accomplish such a task. The fact that Edwin was placed with a group that included a woman may have been deliberate, if so.
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** It's also possible they never particularly intended to engage the small-blade fighters in the group themselves, but tossed them into the mix to give their ''hounds'' something to mix it up with. The dog-creatures weren't armored, and knife-vs-teeth is more of a fair fight than knife-vs-laser cannon.
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** It's also possible they never particularly intended to engage the small-blade fighters in the group themselves, but tossed them into the mix to give their ''hounds'' something to mix it up scrap with. The dog-creatures weren't armored, and knife-vs-teeth is more of a fair fight than knife-vs-laser cannon.
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** Most likely of all, this film's breed of Predator may simply be going for quantity of trophies over quality, themselves. We see evidence of several dozen "prey" being dumped into the hunting ground in a fairly short period of time, and they're drawn from a whole range of locations, cultures, and possibly eras with no regard for whether they'll work well as a team, or kill each other before the hunters can get to them. These Predators may simply be opportunists, abducting candidates for their hunts en masse and fairly indiscriminately, just so they'll have loads and loads of targets. They're like canned "hunters" who just want to boast that they've shot a grizzly bear, and couldn't care less that it was drugged, arthritic, and stolen from a zoo before being dumped in front of their hunting blind.
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** Most likely of all, this film's breed of Predator may simply be going for quantity of trophies over quality, themselves. We see evidence of several dozen "prey" being dumped into the hunting ground in a fairly short period of time, and they're drawn from a whole range of locations, cultures, and possibly eras with no regard for whether they'll work well as a team, or kill each other before the hunters can get to them. These Predators may simply be opportunists, abducting candidates for their hunts en masse and fairly indiscriminately, just so they'll have loads and loads of targets. They're like canned "hunters" who just want to boast that they've shot a grizzly bear, and couldn't care less that it was drugged, arthritic, and stolen from a zoo before being dumped in front of their hunting blind.blind.
** It's also possible they never particularly intended to engage the small-blade fighters in the group themselves, but tossed them into the mix to give their ''hounds'' something to mix it up with. The dog-creatures weren't armored, and knife-vs-teeth is more of a fair fight than knife-vs-laser cannon.
** It's also possible they never particularly intended to engage the small-blade fighters in the group themselves, but tossed them into the mix to give their ''hounds'' something to mix it up with. The dog-creatures weren't armored, and knife-vs-teeth is more of a fair fight than knife-vs-laser cannon.
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* In Predators, how is that nobody noticed the huge gas giant and all the moons up in the sky until the big reveal? Sure, I could buy that the jungle was dense enough and the team was busy freaking out and trying to figure out what was going on, but the DO reach a clearing before that scene.
** I always just assumed that it was overcast, and they couldn't see them. But, hey, it added to the mystery when first seeing the movie.
*** My assumption is that as the sky is a cgi effect they had no idea what they would be seeing until post production. The scenes in the clearing had been shot and dusted and they were then committed to keeping them.
*** However making it look good will make the audience forget how idiotic such a noticable sky is.
** Maybe they were just too traumatized and freaked out to take a good look up and really ''think'' about what they were seeing. Be honest, how often do you look up at the sky and really pay attention to it as opposed to just letting your brain fill in "It's there"? Especially if you're stressed, distracted, or in pain?
* Uh, yeah, new ''Predators'' movie? Pretty sure planets that big can't be that close to one another, especially if one of them is a gas giant.
** Maybe all of them EXCEPT the gas giant are moons- including the "planet" the movie is set on? Think Jupiter or Saturn.
*** Pretty sure this is the idea -- they're on a moon, not a planet. It's just natural for them to say "planet" because it's so Earthlike.
* Also, how did that doctor know about the paralyzing properties of an alien plant? He knew way too much about its effects and how quickly they worked for him to take an estimated guess.
** I assumed it was an earth based plant that grew there as well and he recognized it.
** He used the scientific name in describing it. I assume the Predators seeded the jungle with plants native to the planets of their prey- maybe to make them more "comfortable"?
** Presumably the hunting ground planet is intentionally populated with dangerous plants as well as animals to spice things up.
** IIRC, the script says that the plant in question is an actual plant on earth. Well, was. It's extinct now, and has been since... the dinosaurs, I believe. Of course, this only begs the question on how the doctor knows so much about an extinct plant.
*** Why wouldn't he? As you note, it was a real plant, and for someone who [[spoiler: paralyzes people with toxins in order to kill them, researching plant life that could do just that seems like a useful hobby.]]
*** Even with research, the most he could know would be whether or not its modern ''relatives'' (if any) are toxic. Organic compounds like poisons don't fossilize, so even the best botanical paleontologist in the world couldn't say for sure if it's toxic or not, or how severely so.
** Maybe [[spoiler: the doctor had actually been in the hunting ground a lot longer than he claimed, and has had time to ''test'' the poison on previous groups of "prey"? He could've faked being a new arrival to get the others off-guard.]]
* Why did the head Predator blow Noland up? He sure as hell deserved to be collected as a worthy trophy.
** The head Pred may have never actually seen or hunted Noland before, since Noland has apparently gotten good at going undetected. The Predators in the film may not be the ones who brought him to the planet, but I haven't read the prequel comics so someone needs to verify that.
** He had gotten hold of a lot of Predator tech, which is a no-no in Predator society. Also, he's killed at least two Predators- maybe he was considered the equivalent of a rogue elephant or man-eater on Earth- too dangerous to take chances with.
** Also recall that most of the Predators in that movie aren't the kind in the first two movies (or in [=AvP=]). They're some sort of new breed or subspecies. They may be hunting more for the sadistic thrill than trophies, since they also don't seem to adhere to the same honor code that the previous Predators do.
* Why did the Predators kidnap Eric from ''Series/That70sShow''? I mean, yeah, he's [[spoiler:a psycho killer and all]], but he's still not good at one on one combat, and is virtually defenseless against them. No matter what kind of person he is, he still isn't a survivalist or a real hunter or even any kind of challenge for a Predator to defeat. Also, he's virtually unarmed except for some tiny scalpels. Aren't Predators supposed to ignore unarmed targets? It just doesn't seem sporting to me.
** The only explanation I can think of is that these Super Preds are a lot more sadistic and less honorable than the classic ones, and probably threw him into the group for shits n' giggles. What makes these new Predators different from the old ones is that they really like to test and toy with their prey. They probably weren't intending to hunt Edwin in the first place.
** Or maybe they rate prey as dangerous the same way they rate their own status- by number of kills? He might be very, very good at what he does.
*** This seems likely to me. It would explain the presence of the drug cartel enforcer. That guy is not a warrior in any sense of the word. His immediate response to any threat is to wave his [[GunsAkimbo twin submachine guns]] in the vague direction of the threat and spray away like a madman, with no regard for accuracy or for the fact that he has no way to get more ammo for his guns. So why was he snatched by the Predators? Obviously, because he's taken out a ton of people during his work for the drug cartels.
** Note that the Predators almost never actually attack Edwin. One of them advances on him menacingly, but doesn't fire on him or even raise his blade until Nikolai jumps out to save him. At the end, the lead Predator seems to stab him out of mercy or boredom because Edwin is clearly bleeding out and helpless. They probably expected him to pick up or improvise a weapon at some point, but he never did.
** Or it could be that as a doctor he was sent along so that the prey could be patched up and put up a fight longer.
** I just assumed that the Predators, being a very warlike and having a hunting-based culture, are pretty alien to the concept of serial killers. Thus when they saw Edwin they thought "He's racked up a really high body count, he's probably really good at killing/hunting.", instead of how we would intemperate him as a cold blooded murderer who slaughters innocent, possibly defenseless victims without reason.
*** Maybe it was the opposite, and they chose him BECAUSE he was a serial killer. Maybe This Troper is a little idealistic, but he likes the idea that the Predators would find his habit of targeting the weak and defenseless offensive, so they brought him up to put him down like a rabid dog.
*** That seems unlikely. If all they wanted was to put him down they could have grabbed him from Earth and cut his throat while he was unconscious. On the other hand, the "high body count = good hunter" explanation doesn't seem to work either. The Predators clearly have an understanding of the concepts of honor and fair play. That's why they ignore unarmed/harmless prey in favor of dangerous prey. Logically, the Predators ''should'' be offended by the concept of a killer who exclusively targets prey that can't defend itself.
*** Maybe the Predators also have a concept of irony, and thought it appropriate to put him in a situation where he couldn't really defend himself.
*** It's worth remembering that these Predators are not the same clans as we see in the other movies. Their methods of hunting and their motives for doing so are likely very different from the ones we've seen before.
** In the previous films, the predators only hunt prey that can defend itself. They only attack armed humans. It doesn't seem like the serial killer's method of killing defenseless women would have been all that impressive to the predators. They shouldn't be interested in the number of kills, but in the challenge of the kills. By the same token, killing him for sport wouldn't be that impressive either. The predators aren't interested in bringing their brand of justice to the humans, they just want to hunt the strong ones.
*** Given that Edwin is a serial killer, it's possible he took trophies from his victims, which would definitely have interested the predators regardless of how he actually killed them.
** The one that bugs me is Stans, who had to have been behind bars for a fairly lengthy period of time (assuming he appealed the sentence, it might've been years). Unless the Predators read human newspapers, how the Hell would they know about him?
*** How would they know about Edwin? They observe and stalk presumably for a long time before picking prey. If you're looking for predators, San Quentin is a good place to start and they probably watched how he interacted with the guards and inmates.
** Its possible that they chose Edwin and Stans to be vipers-in-the-nest to make the hunt more interesting. Unlike everyone else chosen who are professional killers, Edwin and Stans are the two most unpredictable (comparatively speaking) in choosing when and if they are going to kill someone. Its reasonable to assume the Predators took into account that Humans tend to band together against threats and are stronger for it, which is why they often try to seperate them. Having a serial killer and an unstable convict in the group would lead to a greater chance that the others would make mistakes and be too busy watching their own backs instead of watching out for the Predators.
** The Predator honour code seems a little flexible. They will only hunt people who are armed, true, but that needn't be more than a knife. Their own weaponry is far superior to anything individual humans are likely to have, including an invisibility cloak. The one in the first film was able to take out a whole squad of Green Berets and most of Arnie's team with little difficulty. The one in the second slaughters entire drug gangs with ease. They're obviously not above heavily stacking the deck in their own favour, including deliberately introducing a fly-in-the-ointment who will be more of a threat to his fellow humans than he ever would to a Predator.
** Most likely of all, this film's breed of Predator may simply be going for quantity of trophies over quality, themselves. We see evidence of several dozen "prey" being dumped into the hunting ground in a fairly short period of time, and they're drawn from a whole range of locations, cultures, and possibly eras with no regard for whether they'll work well as a team, or kill each other before the hunters can get to them. These Predators may simply be opportunists, abducting candidates for their hunts en masse and fairly indiscriminately, just so they'll have loads and loads of targets. They're like canned "hunters" who just want to boast that they've shot a grizzly bear, and couldn't care less that it was drugged, arthritic, and stolen from a zoo before being dumped in front of their hunting blind.
* In Predators, how is that nobody noticed the huge gas giant and all the moons up in the sky until the big reveal? Sure, I could buy that the jungle was dense enough and the team was busy freaking out and trying to figure out what was going on, but the DO reach a clearing before that scene.
** I always just assumed that it was overcast, and they couldn't see them. But, hey, it added to the mystery when first seeing the movie.
*** My assumption is that as the sky is a cgi effect they had no idea what they would be seeing until post production. The scenes in the clearing had been shot and dusted and they were then committed to keeping them.
*** However making it look good will make the audience forget how idiotic such a noticable sky is.
** Maybe they were just too traumatized and freaked out to take a good look up and really ''think'' about what they were seeing. Be honest, how often do you look up at the sky and really pay attention to it as opposed to just letting your brain fill in "It's there"? Especially if you're stressed, distracted, or in pain?
* Uh, yeah, new ''Predators'' movie? Pretty sure planets that big can't be that close to one another, especially if one of them is a gas giant.
** Maybe all of them EXCEPT the gas giant are moons- including the "planet" the movie is set on? Think Jupiter or Saturn.
*** Pretty sure this is the idea -- they're on a moon, not a planet. It's just natural for them to say "planet" because it's so Earthlike.
* Also, how did that doctor know about the paralyzing properties of an alien plant? He knew way too much about its effects and how quickly they worked for him to take an estimated guess.
** I assumed it was an earth based plant that grew there as well and he recognized it.
** He used the scientific name in describing it. I assume the Predators seeded the jungle with plants native to the planets of their prey- maybe to make them more "comfortable"?
** Presumably the hunting ground planet is intentionally populated with dangerous plants as well as animals to spice things up.
** IIRC, the script says that the plant in question is an actual plant on earth. Well, was. It's extinct now, and has been since... the dinosaurs, I believe. Of course, this only begs the question on how the doctor knows so much about an extinct plant.
*** Why wouldn't he? As you note, it was a real plant, and for someone who [[spoiler: paralyzes people with toxins in order to kill them, researching plant life that could do just that seems like a useful hobby.]]
*** Even with research, the most he could know would be whether or not its modern ''relatives'' (if any) are toxic. Organic compounds like poisons don't fossilize, so even the best botanical paleontologist in the world couldn't say for sure if it's toxic or not, or how severely so.
** Maybe [[spoiler: the doctor had actually been in the hunting ground a lot longer than he claimed, and has had time to ''test'' the poison on previous groups of "prey"? He could've faked being a new arrival to get the others off-guard.]]
* Why did the head Predator blow Noland up? He sure as hell deserved to be collected as a worthy trophy.
** The head Pred may have never actually seen or hunted Noland before, since Noland has apparently gotten good at going undetected. The Predators in the film may not be the ones who brought him to the planet, but I haven't read the prequel comics so someone needs to verify that.
** He had gotten hold of a lot of Predator tech, which is a no-no in Predator society. Also, he's killed at least two Predators- maybe he was considered the equivalent of a rogue elephant or man-eater on Earth- too dangerous to take chances with.
** Also recall that most of the Predators in that movie aren't the kind in the first two movies (or in [=AvP=]). They're some sort of new breed or subspecies. They may be hunting more for the sadistic thrill than trophies, since they also don't seem to adhere to the same honor code that the previous Predators do.
* Why did the Predators kidnap Eric from ''Series/That70sShow''? I mean, yeah, he's [[spoiler:a psycho killer and all]], but he's still not good at one on one combat, and is virtually defenseless against them. No matter what kind of person he is, he still isn't a survivalist or a real hunter or even any kind of challenge for a Predator to defeat. Also, he's virtually unarmed except for some tiny scalpels. Aren't Predators supposed to ignore unarmed targets? It just doesn't seem sporting to me.
** The only explanation I can think of is that these Super Preds are a lot more sadistic and less honorable than the classic ones, and probably threw him into the group for shits n' giggles. What makes these new Predators different from the old ones is that they really like to test and toy with their prey. They probably weren't intending to hunt Edwin in the first place.
** Or maybe they rate prey as dangerous the same way they rate their own status- by number of kills? He might be very, very good at what he does.
*** This seems likely to me. It would explain the presence of the drug cartel enforcer. That guy is not a warrior in any sense of the word. His immediate response to any threat is to wave his [[GunsAkimbo twin submachine guns]] in the vague direction of the threat and spray away like a madman, with no regard for accuracy or for the fact that he has no way to get more ammo for his guns. So why was he snatched by the Predators? Obviously, because he's taken out a ton of people during his work for the drug cartels.
** Note that the Predators almost never actually attack Edwin. One of them advances on him menacingly, but doesn't fire on him or even raise his blade until Nikolai jumps out to save him. At the end, the lead Predator seems to stab him out of mercy or boredom because Edwin is clearly bleeding out and helpless. They probably expected him to pick up or improvise a weapon at some point, but he never did.
** Or it could be that as a doctor he was sent along so that the prey could be patched up and put up a fight longer.
** I just assumed that the Predators, being a very warlike and having a hunting-based culture, are pretty alien to the concept of serial killers. Thus when they saw Edwin they thought "He's racked up a really high body count, he's probably really good at killing/hunting.", instead of how we would intemperate him as a cold blooded murderer who slaughters innocent, possibly defenseless victims without reason.
*** Maybe it was the opposite, and they chose him BECAUSE he was a serial killer. Maybe This Troper is a little idealistic, but he likes the idea that the Predators would find his habit of targeting the weak and defenseless offensive, so they brought him up to put him down like a rabid dog.
*** That seems unlikely. If all they wanted was to put him down they could have grabbed him from Earth and cut his throat while he was unconscious. On the other hand, the "high body count = good hunter" explanation doesn't seem to work either. The Predators clearly have an understanding of the concepts of honor and fair play. That's why they ignore unarmed/harmless prey in favor of dangerous prey. Logically, the Predators ''should'' be offended by the concept of a killer who exclusively targets prey that can't defend itself.
*** Maybe the Predators also have a concept of irony, and thought it appropriate to put him in a situation where he couldn't really defend himself.
*** It's worth remembering that these Predators are not the same clans as we see in the other movies. Their methods of hunting and their motives for doing so are likely very different from the ones we've seen before.
** In the previous films, the predators only hunt prey that can defend itself. They only attack armed humans. It doesn't seem like the serial killer's method of killing defenseless women would have been all that impressive to the predators. They shouldn't be interested in the number of kills, but in the challenge of the kills. By the same token, killing him for sport wouldn't be that impressive either. The predators aren't interested in bringing their brand of justice to the humans, they just want to hunt the strong ones.
*** Given that Edwin is a serial killer, it's possible he took trophies from his victims, which would definitely have interested the predators regardless of how he actually killed them.
** The one that bugs me is Stans, who had to have been behind bars for a fairly lengthy period of time (assuming he appealed the sentence, it might've been years). Unless the Predators read human newspapers, how the Hell would they know about him?
*** How would they know about Edwin? They observe and stalk presumably for a long time before picking prey. If you're looking for predators, San Quentin is a good place to start and they probably watched how he interacted with the guards and inmates.
** Its possible that they chose Edwin and Stans to be vipers-in-the-nest to make the hunt more interesting. Unlike everyone else chosen who are professional killers, Edwin and Stans are the two most unpredictable (comparatively speaking) in choosing when and if they are going to kill someone. Its reasonable to assume the Predators took into account that Humans tend to band together against threats and are stronger for it, which is why they often try to seperate them. Having a serial killer and an unstable convict in the group would lead to a greater chance that the others would make mistakes and be too busy watching their own backs instead of watching out for the Predators.
** The Predator honour code seems a little flexible. They will only hunt people who are armed, true, but that needn't be more than a knife. Their own weaponry is far superior to anything individual humans are likely to have, including an invisibility cloak. The one in the first film was able to take out a whole squad of Green Berets and most of Arnie's team with little difficulty. The one in the second slaughters entire drug gangs with ease. They're obviously not above heavily stacking the deck in their own favour, including deliberately introducing a fly-in-the-ointment who will be more of a threat to his fellow humans than he ever would to a Predator.
** Most likely of all, this film's breed of Predator may simply be going for quantity of trophies over quality, themselves. We see evidence of several dozen "prey" being dumped into the hunting ground in a fairly short period of time, and they're drawn from a whole range of locations, cultures, and possibly eras with no regard for whether they'll work well as a team, or kill each other before the hunters can get to them. These Predators may simply be opportunists, abducting candidates for their hunts en masse and fairly indiscriminately, just so they'll have loads and loads of targets. They're like canned "hunters" who just want to boast that they've shot a grizzly bear, and couldn't care less that it was drugged, arthritic, and stolen from a zoo before being dumped in front of their hunting blind.
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** Different prey behaviours result in different consequences. Be disappointing and they skin you and leave you hanging around. Actually beat your predator and it seems you get to take a trophy and leave for the time being. Make for a worthy hunt and you get to become a trophy. Make a worthy kill off a Xenomorph, get marked as a true warrior. Actually mess with their technology and the game is off and you get blown to bits.
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** Different prey behaviours result in different consequences. Be disappointing and they skin you and leave you hanging around. Actually beat your predator and it seems you get to take a trophy and leave for the time being. Make for a worthy hunt and you get to become a trophy. Make a worthy kill off a Xenomorph, get marked as a true warrior. Actually mess with their technology and the game is off and you get blown to bits.bits.
** WhyDontYouJustShootHim
** WhyDontYouJustShootHim
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* Why did Noland get blown to bits instead of having his skull taken? It's clearly shown the Black Predators DO take trophies from their kills and Nolands lasted a LONG TIME and even been implied to have killed a few Predators in his time, so shouldn't he have been worth taking the skull from instead of incinerating?
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* Why did Noland get blown to bits instead of having his skull taken? It's clearly shown the Black Predators DO take trophies from their kills and Nolands lasted a LONG TIME and even been implied to have killed a few Predators in his time, so shouldn't he have been worth taking the skull from instead of incinerating?incinerating?
** Different prey behaviours result in different consequences. Be disappointing and they skin you and leave you hanging around. Actually beat your predator and it seems you get to take a trophy and leave for the time being. Make for a worthy hunt and you get to become a trophy. Make a worthy kill off a Xenomorph, get marked as a true warrior. Actually mess with their technology and the game is off and you get blown to bits.
** Different prey behaviours result in different consequences. Be disappointing and they skin you and leave you hanging around. Actually beat your predator and it seems you get to take a trophy and leave for the time being. Make for a worthy hunt and you get to become a trophy. Make a worthy kill off a Xenomorph, get marked as a true warrior. Actually mess with their technology and the game is off and you get blown to bits.
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* Why did Noland get blow to bits instead of having his skull taken? It's clearly shown the Black Predators DO take trophies from their kills and Nolands lasted a LONG TIME and even been implied to have killed a few Predators in his time, so shouldn't he have been worth taking the skull from instead of incarcerating?
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* Why did Noland get blow blown to bits instead of having his skull taken? It's clearly shown the Black Predators DO take trophies from their kills and Nolands lasted a LONG TIME and even been implied to have killed a few Predators in his time, so shouldn't he have been worth taking the skull from instead of incarcerating?incinerating?
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*** More specifically, in Predator 2 it is shown that the government both knows roughly what the Predators are and are hot to get Predator tech. If anything, these Predators may be willing to trade some gear for fresh hunters.
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*** More specifically, in Predator 2 it is shown that the government both knows roughly what the Predators are and are hot to get Predator tech. If anything, these Predators may be willing to trade some gear for fresh hunters.hunters.
* Why did Noland get blow to bits instead of having his skull taken? It's clearly shown the Black Predators DO take trophies from their kills and Nolands lasted a LONG TIME and even been implied to have killed a few Predators in his time, so shouldn't he have been worth taking the skull from instead of incarcerating?
* Why did Noland get blow to bits instead of having his skull taken? It's clearly shown the Black Predators DO take trophies from their kills and Nolands lasted a LONG TIME and even been implied to have killed a few Predators in his time, so shouldn't he have been worth taking the skull from instead of incarcerating?
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** Or maybe they simply cut a deal with corrupt prison staff to take Stans. If the warden were to receive an anonymous e-mail, promising several million dollars worth of diamonds or whatever in exchange for a prisoner who's about to be executed anyway, then Stans's lethal-injection cocktail could have been swapped out for a sedative and his unconscious body, handed over on the sly. They could imply that the payoff is from a rich relative of one of Stans's victims, who wants to ''personally'' shoot the son of a bitch, if the warden's hesitant about letting a psycho like that live.
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** Or maybe they simply cut a deal with corrupt prison staff to take Stans. If the warden were to receive an anonymous e-mail, promising several million dollars worth of diamonds or whatever in exchange for a prisoner who's about to be executed anyway, then Stans's lethal-injection cocktail could have been swapped out for a sedative and his unconscious body, handed over on the sly. They could imply that the payoff is from a rich relative of one of Stans's victims, who wants to ''personally'' shoot the son of a bitch, if the warden's hesitant about letting a psycho like that live.live.
*** More specifically, in Predator 2 it is shown that the government both knows roughly what the Predators are and are hot to get Predator tech. If anything, these Predators may be willing to trade some gear for fresh hunters.
*** More specifically, in Predator 2 it is shown that the government both knows roughly what the Predators are and are hot to get Predator tech. If anything, these Predators may be willing to trade some gear for fresh hunters.
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** Also, not everything on a planet has the same colored blood. Humans have red blood, but horseshoe crabs have blue blood. The coloring all depends on the composition of the blood's base materials.
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** Or maybe they simply cut a deal with corrupt prison staff to take Stans. If the warden were to receive an anonymous e-mail, promising several million dollars worth of diamonds or whatever in exchange for a prisoner who's about to be executed anyway, then Stans's lethal-injection cocktail could have been swapped out for a sedative and his unconscious body, handed over on the sly. Imply it's being paid by a rich relative of one of Stans's victims, who wants to ''personally'' shoot the son of a bitch, if the warden's hesitant about letting a psycho like that live.
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** Or maybe they simply cut a deal with corrupt prison staff to take Stans. If the warden were to receive an anonymous e-mail, promising several million dollars worth of diamonds or whatever in exchange for a prisoner who's about to be executed anyway, then Stans's lethal-injection cocktail could have been swapped out for a sedative and his unconscious body, handed over on the sly. Imply it's being paid by They could imply that the payoff is from a rich relative of one of Stans's victims, who wants to ''personally'' shoot the son of a bitch, if the warden's hesitant about letting a psycho like that live.
