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** Well, given the zero shits adults seem to give about kids in Moralton, they're probably left to do whatever they want.
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* Why does Clay hate his "lousy stinkin' dead end job" as Mayor of Moralton anyway? He seems focused on money even though Mayor is a pretty good job.

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* Why does Clay hate his "lousy stinkin' dead end job" as Mayor of Moralton anyway? He seems focused on money even though Mayor is a pretty good job.job.
** Clay seems like someone who's basically self-destructive enough to never be happy about anything. Plus being Mayor probably involves a lot of work doing what's best for citizens and ultimately taking care of other people and judging by his interactions with his family, Clay deeply resents being obligated to take care of anyone but himself.
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** It is heavily implied that his parents were stuck living their high school days, not knowing or caring that part of their lives is over. However, what we're not clear on (or I'm not clear on, I haven't seen that episode in a while) is if the regression was always there, or if it started out and worsened over a time-frame. Perhaps what we see of them is something that happened maybe about 2 years ago or such and Doughy was at least able to use the money to feed and take care of some issues at the house. Again, without an exact time-frame, nothing is really certain. Comes with the name anyway, doughy "latchkey".

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** It is heavily implied that his parents were stuck living their high school days, not knowing or caring that part of their lives is over. However, what we're not clear on (or I'm not clear on, I haven't seen that episode in a while) is if the regression was always there, or if it started out and worsened over a time-frame. Perhaps what we see of them is something that happened maybe about 2 years ago or such and Doughy was at least able to use the money to feed and take care of some issues at the house. Again, without an exact time-frame, nothing is really certain. Comes with the name anyway, doughy "latchkey"."latchkey".
* Why does Clay hate his "lousy stinkin' dead end job" as Mayor of Moralton anyway? He seems focused on money even though Mayor is a pretty good job.
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*** Probably a mixture of all those factors. Though I wonder if they took BabiesMakeEverythingBetter and twisted it to mean; "This marriage is horrible. Why should we suffer alone?"
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*** Also, if the bear ate Clay and then for whatever reason decided to pass Orel up he would have been left alone in the wilderness for far longer. For as much as Orel hated Clay at that point, he also knew that Clay was the only chance he had to survive.
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** "Puppington" kinda sounds like "Puppet" as in technically in stop motion the figures are puppets.
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* What does "Puppington" have to do with stop-motion animation?

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** It is heavily implied that his parents were stuck living their high school days, not knowing or caring that part of their lives is over. However, what we're not clear on (or I'm not clear on, I haven't seen that episode in a while) is if the regression was always there, or if it started out and worsened over a time-frame. Perhaps what we see of them is something that happened maybe about 2 years ago or such and Doughy was at least able to use the money to feed and take care of some issues at the house. Again, without an exact time-frame, nothing is really certain.

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** It is heavily implied that his parents were stuck living their high school days, not knowing or caring that part of their lives is over. However, what we're not clear on (or I'm not clear on, I haven't seen that episode in a while) is if the regression was always there, or if it started out and worsened over a time-frame. Perhaps what we see of them is something that happened maybe about 2 years ago or such and Doughy was at least able to use the money to feed and take care of some issues at the house. Again, without an exact time-frame, nothing is really certain. Comes with the name anyway, doughy "latchkey".

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** What makes everyone so sure that it's Clay and Bloberta in the picture? Am I the only one that remembers that Christina's parents look ''exactly'' like Orel's?



** Clay would purposely try to instigate and emotional response as much as he possible could from his father in 'order' to be slapped,because he began to associate being phycically hit to actually being worth it,and as a result "loved" in Clay's twisted mind.

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** Clay would purposely try to instigate and emotional response as much as he possible could from his father in 'order' to be slapped,because he began to associate being phycically physically hit to actually being worth it,and as a result "loved" in Clay's twisted mind.



**** It seems like all the adults in Moralton hate responcibility period! My question would be why did it take a long time for the adults to realize their horrible advice is what causes Orel to cause chaos in town?

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**** It seems like all the adults in Moralton hate responcibility responsibility period! My question would be why did it take a long time for the adults to realize their horrible advice is what causes Orel to cause chaos in town?town?
*** Key word: responsibility: They'd have to assume the weight of Orel's actions (because he's really a kid who didn't know any better). Many of the show's calamities that involved Orel was he HEAVILY (and outright BAFFINGLY) misconstrued what they told him to do when he sought advice.



* If Clay and Blobberta hate eachother so much during Marriage then why did they have Orel in the first place? It also doesn't help that they neglect the boy and wordofgod says that Orel is not a accident.

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* If Clay and Blobberta hate eachother each other so much during Marriage then why did they have Orel in the first place? It also doesn't help that they neglect the boy and wordofgod says that Orel is not a accident.



** Extending on that last suggestion: It may have been a case in which they thought that they could've made out better than their parents and tried to do so, but ultimately failed in that regard and then couldn't back out for the sake of Orel and their reputations (especially with Clay being [[spoiler: The Mayor]].




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** Probably the lesser of two evils won the election he ran for?



* How the hell did Doughy even ''survive''? If they were that neglectful to him as a baby he'd have been long dead!

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* How the hell did Doughy even ''survive''? If they were that neglectful to him as a baby he'd have been long dead!dead!
** It is heavily implied that his parents were stuck living their high school days, not knowing or caring that part of their lives is over. However, what we're not clear on (or I'm not clear on, I haven't seen that episode in a while) is if the regression was always there, or if it started out and worsened over a time-frame. Perhaps what we see of them is something that happened maybe about 2 years ago or such and Doughy was at least able to use the money to feed and take care of some issues at the house. Again, without an exact time-frame, nothing is really certain.
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** Orel's own life was in danger too, you know. It's not like the bear would have stopped at killing Clay.
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* Why did Orel shoot the bear rather letting it kill Clay? Besides, he's CompleteMonster and death is what those kind of villains get.

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* Why did Orel shoot the bear rather letting it kill Clay? Besides, he's CompleteMonster and death is what those kind of villains get.
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** What makes everyone so sure that it's Clay and Bloberta in the picture? Am I the only one that remembers that Christina's parents look ''exactly'' like Orel's?
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** Fundamentalist Christians aren't allowed to divorce, lest they be seen as ''unholy'' by thier fellow peers.

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** Fundamentalist Christians aren't allowed to divorce, lest they be seen as ''unholy'' by thier their fellow peers.
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* What happened to all the babies conceived because of Orel's actions in "God's Chef"?

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* What happened to all the babies conceived because of Orel's actions in "God's Chef"?Chef"?
* How the hell did Doughy even ''survive''? If they were that neglectful to him as a baby he'd have been long dead!

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* Is it just me, or is Clay really not that sympathetic at all? Young Clay is listed as a Woobie, and older Clay as a Jerk Ass Woobie, but honestly I feel like Young Clay deserves the latter title (at best), and adult Clay deserves no such thing. [[spoiler:Young Clay was self-indulgent, accidently killed his mother, and seemed more concerned with chastising his step-dad for saying there was no Heaven than he was with the fact that his mother just died. To make matters worse, the poor guy tried to get on well with Clay, and even planned to give him his treasured 'Ol Gunny,' and while he wasn't a great parent self-indulgent Clay gave him nothing to workwith. Too make matters worse, self-indulgent Clay monopolized his mother's attention and affection, forcing Senior Puffington to make due with almost nothing. Then, after his wife died Clay provoked him and provoked him for his own selfish needs, not once considering the idea that he should try to comfort or identify with the man.]] And we all know about the atrocities adult clay commited.
** Well, Clay is essentially Satan in human form. He did have some redeeming qualities at one point in his life, but he tossed them away like garbage. He even admits to hating himself while drunk. In fact, by the last episode, Coach Stopframe, being the last person to really show him affection, dumps him. This shows what he is and what he has been all along: pathetic. He may not be very sympathetic, but he is pitiful, just like Satan. People like Clay really do exist in real life, and they are just as pathetic as he is. CryForTheDevil, indeed.
*** I feel sympathetic for Clay
*** I'd argue that what makes him sympathetic is that it's implied he does love his family, but he's such a weak and dysfunctional person that for a lot of complex reasons he doesn't make said love a positive influence in his life, and he just poisons everyone he's near, and so the smartest, healthiest, sanest decision you can make is to just avoid him enough to avoid getting hurt. There's also empathy for how empty and miserable his life is implied will be for the rest of his life, and frankly probably always was. Orel arguably had a worse childhood than Clay, yet still had a fulfilling life; Clay did not. Most audience members want to believe they'd be like Orel in the face of adversity, when most at least suspect deep down there's a very real risk of turning out like Clay did to some degree. Most people would be terrified of wasting their lives the way Clay did, and if you're someone who generally dislikes seeing others in pain or feeling empty and lonely, it can strike a lot of nerves.



* I'm sorry, but how is Bloberta a [[CompleteMonster monster]]? Clay I can understand, but Bloberta has actually been shown to love Orel.
** Bloberta is an enabler, and a very selfish one at that. She knows Clay is an alcoholic, but she not only condones but encourages his alcoholism because she's sure no sober man would stay with her. Sure, she shows some regret, crying when she is alone, but she does nothing productive.

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* I'm sorry, but how is Bloberta a [[CompleteMonster monster]]? Clay I can understand, but Bloberta has actually been shown to love Orel.
** Bloberta is an enabler, and a very selfish one at that. She knows Clay is an alcoholic, but she not only condones but encourages his alcoholism because she's sure no sober man would stay with her. Sure, she shows some regret, crying when she is alone, but she does nothing productive.
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* Does Shapey and/or Block even go to school? Surely behavior such as theirs would not fly there.

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* Does Shapey and/or Block even go to school? Surely behavior such as theirs would not fly there.there.
* What happened to all the babies conceived because of Orel's actions in "God's Chef"?
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** Bloberta is an enabler, and a very selfish one at that. She knows Clay is an alcoholic, but she not only condones but encourages his alcoholism because she's sure no sober man would stay with her. Sure, she shows some regret, crying when she is alone, but she does nothing productive.

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** Bloberta is an enabler, and a very selfish one at that. She knows Clay is an alcoholic, but she not only condones but encourages his alcoholism because she's sure no sober man would stay with her. Sure, she shows some regret, crying when she is alone, but she does nothing productive.productive.
* Does Shapey and/or Block even go to school? Surely behavior such as theirs would not fly there.
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*** This makes me think Clay actually enjoys punishing Orel and comes up with excuses just to whack him. He even looks forward to Orel gulping as a signal that he's going to enjoy beating him. And he looks disappointed during the time Orel is looking forward to being beaten so he comes up with a way for Orel to be afraid of being beaten again.
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** Maybe because every beating is actually for the completely wrong reasons. Orel raped women? He gets beaten up because he did so in an unholy manner(using a kitchen utensil). Beat another child to a pulp? He gets beaten for abandoning his old friends. Became a drug addict? He gets beaten for using slang. So his intentions are rather questionable, and you can argue spanking isn't the best punishment anyway. What I think is odd is that the one time Orel gets punished for something he did(for bathing in his friends' blood in "Grounded") it's listed as a KickTheDog moment(even more so because the reason Clay resorted to grounding him was that the beatings were obviously not working anymore).

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** Maybe because every beating is actually for the completely wrong reasons. Orel raped women? He gets beaten up because he did so in an unholy manner(using a kitchen utensil). Beat another child to a pulp? He gets beaten for abandoning his old friends. Became a drug addict? He gets beaten for using slang. So his intentions are rather questionable, and you can argue spanking isn't the best punishment anyway. What I think is odd is that the one time Orel gets punished for something he did(for [[BloodBath bathing in his friends' blood blood]] in "Grounded") it's listed as a KickTheDog moment(even more so because the reason Clay resorted to grounding him was that the beatings were obviously not working anymore).
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**** It seems like all the adults in Moralton hate responcibility period! My question would be why did it take a long time for the adults to realize their horrible advice is what causes Orel to cause chaos in town?

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*** Honestly, Orel is a naive and impressionable child receiving terrible advice from negligent authority figures. The reason for his bathing in the blood of his friends at the start of "Grounded" is because the adults realized their advice was terrible but didn't want to admit to it or actually try being a better influence on Orel. But he kept looking for advice, and they pretended to talk to themselves to alleviate any sense of responsibility when their advice went horribly wrong.



** Clay doesn't take the blame for shooting Orel, because, as Clay said, he doesn't remember. However, he takes the credit of shooting the bear, even though he doesn't know that he did shoot the bear. It's just a huge slap in the face for Orel.

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** Clay doesn't take the blame for shooting Orel, because, as Clay said, he doesn't remember. However, he takes the credit of shooting the bear, even though he doesn't know that he did shoot the bear. It's just a huge slap in the face for Orel.
** It's also the fact that Clay lies about it, trying to place the blame on
Orel. The three mentioned excuses are that Orel: got between him and the bear, Orel shot himself, or the bear shot Orel.
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* I'm sorry, but how is Bloberta a [[CompleteMonster monster]]? Clay I can understand, but Bloberta has actually been shown to love Orel.

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* I'm sorry, but how is Bloberta a [[CompleteMonster monster]]? Clay I can understand, but Bloberta has actually been shown to love Orel.Orel.
**Bloberta is an enabler, and a very selfish one at that. She knows Clay is an alcoholic, but she not only condones but encourages his alcoholism because she's sure no sober man would stay with her. Sure, she shows some regret, crying when she is alone, but she does nothing productive.
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** By default? He might have been the only person who ran and ended up voting for himself.

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** By default? He might have been the only person who ran and ended up voting for himself.himself.
* I'm sorry, but how is Bloberta a [[CompleteMonster monster]]? Clay I can understand, but Bloberta has actually been shown to love Orel.
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** He wasn't exactly punished for bathing in his friends blood, Clay was more agitated at him 'messing up the upstairs bathroom'.
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** Because they bought into the BabiesMakeEverythingBetter trope.
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** By default?

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** By default?default? He might have been the only person who ran and ended up voting for himself.
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* But in the first place, HOW did such a despicable person like Clay manage to [[spoiler:become a mayor?]] He had to win a vote, hadn't he?

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* But in the first place, HOW did such a despicable person like Clay manage to [[spoiler:become a mayor?]] He had to win a vote, hadn't he?he?
** By default?
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** [[CompletelyMissingThePoint That's part of the joke, dumbass.]]

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** [[CompletelyMissingThePoint That's part of the joke, dumbass.]]joke!]]
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** [[CompletelyMissingThePoint That's part of the joke, dumbass.]]
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* But in the first place, HOW did such a despicable person like Clay manage to become a mayor? He had to win a vote, hadn't he?

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* But in the first place, HOW did such a despicable person like Clay manage to become [[spoiler:become a mayor? mayor?]] He had to win a vote, hadn't he?

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