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** What was the point of the "It was all just a dream" bit?! I don't think it fooled anyone. Mainly because if the whole book series was a dream then there probably wouldn't have been so much left in the third book. But seriously, all it seemed to do was serve as a shocking swerve that ends up going nowhere. Waste of paper!
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Then again, considering how many shocking swerves that go absolutely no where there are in the later books, perhaps this troper shouldn't complain.
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** What was the point of the "It was all just a dream" bit?! I don't think it fooled anyone. Mainly because if the whole book series was a dream then there probably wouldn't have been so much left in the third book. But seriously, all it seemed to do was serve as a shocking swerve that ends up going nowhere. Waste of paper!
paper! Then again, considering how many shocking swerves that go absolutely no where there are in the later books, perhaps this troper shouldn't complain.
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**What was the point of the "It was all just a dream" bit?! I don't think it fooled anyone. Mainly because if the whole book series was a dream then there probably wouldn't have been so much left in the third book. But seriously, all it seemed to do was serve as a shocking swerve that ends up going nowhere. Waste of paper!
Then again, considering how many shocking swerves that go absolutely no where there are in the later books, perhaps this troper shouldn't complain.
Then again, considering how many shocking swerves that go absolutely no where there are in the later books, perhaps this troper shouldn't complain.
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** Did they even ''own'' Akila? Didn't she belong to someone else?
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** The implication at the end of the third book was that the German police stopped the riot and arrested everyone. If so, that just raises even more questions, like how a company is apparently powerful enough to sponsor massive numbers of unethical and illegal tests, organize killings and kidnappings, and arrange to eliminate one half of the world's population, and can't wiggle out of charges by the cops.
** This troper could have stood the power-ups if they were justified, like if there was a set number and they came out under the right conditions, and it was exactly the things they needed to save the world, but it was up to them to figure out how to manage the powers. Come book four, it's basically "Opps, you're going to start getting powers randomly. Sorry!" And they are hardly bothered by that!
** Seconded. And is it this troper, or does the series seem to just have the kids be constantly thrown into places for no reason? Like in the third book, the Voice tells Max to look up the Schools in Europe. When she finds the one in England though, the Voice is totally "Oh no, don't actually ''do'' anything there. Just look at it from the bushes and then find the main one". Erm, really?
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* Will someone kindly explain to me why, in a fandom based on a written work, very few can spell 'ter Borcht'?
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* Will someone kindly explain to me why, in a fandom based on a written work, very few can spell 'ter Borcht'?
Borcht'?
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** I agree. In the first book, she already have the power to read minds. But within a short time, she gains the power to mind control, telepathy, breathing underwater, and some sort of other phystic power (similar to TheDeadZone). This propelled her to MarySue status due to her young age, and the protenial of taking over the world...[[TakeThat I'm going to use her in an essay]] to explain to a teacher the concept of a Mary Sue.
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*Am I the only one that finds it weird that Angel couldn't figure out what Gazzy was when they were playing a game? I mean.. she reads minds.
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*Why is Nudge the only normal one here? Seriously, she's my favorite character along with Iggy, but still... Why is she the only normal one?
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What's with this author and Mary Sues. There's Angel (and maybe the rest of the flock) and then there's Daniel X and the fact that a lot of the aliens are considered more powerful than {{Superman}}.
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* I stopped reading after this book. Granted, the first three books did have their flaws, but they were overall enjoyable. Things turned to crap when the storyline went from the more exiting and suspenseful "mutant bird kids running and hiding from mad scientists" to a GreenAesop story so preachy about global warming that Al Gore would be annoyed with it. I mean, I'm all for saving the environment, but good God, what was with that annoying, preachy plot shift?
* How has no one mentioned the fact that she just gets random powers for no reason? Honestly, it got pretty ridiculous when she was getting more powers than everyone else without explanation.
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* Why did they decide to take Akila with them? Honestly, that would only slow them down, and there's no advantage to it.
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* I hate how the characters are so over-powered. When the [[WallBanger blind character can practically see]], you know things are getting ridiculous.
* This troper is starting to notice that there are no brunettes (or very little) in the series. There are blonds. There are a lot of blonds. There are people with black hair. There's even an occasional redhead. But this troper can't remember any characters with brown hair. Except for Max. [[SeriesContinuityError Sometimes.]] And Jeb and Ari, but they used to be blonds.
* I hate how the characters are so over-powered. When the [[WallBanger blind character can practically see]], you know things are getting ridiculous.
* This troper is starting to notice that there are no brunettes (or very little) in the series. There are blonds. There are a lot of blonds. There are people with black hair. There's even an occasional redhead. But this troper can't remember any characters with brown hair. Except for Max. [[SeriesContinuityError Sometimes.]] And Jeb and Ari, but they used to be blonds.
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* This troper is starting to notice that there are no brunettes (or very little) in the series. There are blonds. There are a lot of blonds. There are people with black hair. There's even an occasional redhead. But this troper can't remember any characters with brown hair. Except for Max. [[SeriesContinuityError Sometimes.]] And Jeb and Ari, but they used to be blonds.
* This troper is starting to notice that there are no brunettes (or very little) in the series. There are blonds. There are a lot of blonds. There are people with black hair. There's even an occasional redhead. But this troper can't remember any characters with brown hair. Except for Max. [[SeriesContinuityError Sometimes.]] And Jeb and Ari, but they used to be blonds.
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* I'm aware that living on there own for years and years has given the flock quite a few survival skills that most people don't possess, but Iggy is getting to be seriously impossible. Over the course of the books it's become harder and harder for me, a totally blind person, to suspend my disbelief in regards to Iggy's abilities. He walks alone without a cane or a guide dog, and often without verbile direction, effortlessly threading his way around things in his path. He can fly in pitch battle against Erasers or what have you, when everyone else is too busy to help him, and still has never, as I recall, been seriously injured by someone he may not have heard coming in the commotion. Occasionally people will give him directions on where to go in battle, but that only sparingly. Also, he comments in "Max" that his ecolocation works better under water, which makes no sense: If he echolocates as some blind people do, he uses his ears to tell where the sound is blocked by a wall or other obsticle; this would be completely screwed over when he's under water. If he echolocates like dolphins do, it would be different, but it's never stated one way or the other.
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* I'm aware that living on there own for years and years has given the flock quite a few survival skills that most people don't possess, but Iggy is getting to be seriously impossible. Over the course of the books it's become harder and harder for me, a totally blind person, to suspend my disbelief in regards to Iggy's abilities. He walks alone without a cane or a guide dog, and often without verbile direction, effortlessly threading his way around things in his path. He can fly in pitch battle against Erasers or what have you, when everyone else is too busy to help him, and still has never, as I recall, been seriously injured by someone he may not have heard coming in the commotion. Occasionally people will give him directions on where to go in battle, but that only sparingly. Also, he comments in "Max" that his ecolocation echolocation works better under water, which makes no sense: If he echolocates as some blind people do, he uses his ears to tell where the sound is blocked by a wall or other obsticle; this would be completely screwed over when he's under water. If he echolocates like dolphins do, it would be different, but it's never stated one way or the other.
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* This troper is starting to notice that there are no brunettes (or very little) in the series. There are blonds. There are a lot of blonds. There are people with black hair. There's even an occassional occasional redhead. But this troper can't remember any characters with brown hair. Except for Max. [[SeriesContinuityError Sometimes.]] And Jeb and Ari, but they used to be blonds.
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* I'm aware that living on there own for years and years has given the flock quite a few survival skills that most people don't possess, but Iggy is getting to be seriously impossible. Over the course of the books it's become harder and harder for me, a totally blind person, to suspend my disbelief in regards to Iggy's abilities. He walks alone without a cane or a guide dog, and often without verbile direction, effortlessly threading his way around things in his path. He can fly in pitch battle against Erasers or what have you, when everyone else is too busy to help him, and still has never, as I recall, been seriously injured by someone he may not have heard coming in the commotion. Occasionally people will give him directions on where to go in battle, but that only sparingly. Also, he comments in "Max" that his ecolocation works better under water, which makes no sense: If he echolocates as some blind people do, he uses his ears to tell where the sound is blocked by a wall or other obsticle; this would be completely screwed over when he's under water. If he echolocates like dolphins do, it would be different, but it's never stated one way or the other.
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* I despise this girl. She's not cute. She's incredibly creepy. No one calls her out on MIND CONTROLLING PEOPLE, and honestly, nobody's even really SCARED of her. If there was a small girl in your "family" with the ability to MANIPULATE YOUR MIND, wouldn't there be a LITTLE more paranoia?
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* The fact that most of these entries seem to be written by Fang/Max fangirls who seem to care more about the ship than the plot.
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* If there is ONE MORE BOOK about Global Warming saving the penguins blah blah blah, this Troper will puke and announce [[FanonDiscontinuity discontinuity]] to the general public.
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* The fact that most of these entries seem to be written by Fang/Max fangirls who seem to care more about the ship than the plot.
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* The fact that most of these entries seem to be written by Fang/Max fangirls who seem to care more about the ship than the plot.
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*Is she a blond or a brunette? Seriously. Is it too much to ask for a little consistency with that? Especially considering that all the other characters have consistent hair colors when mentioned?
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*I would have liked to see more with that language the flock developed. Seriously. It came when it was needed with no buildup, and was never mentioned again. When did they make it? How long have they been using it? What phrases do they use? Anything to make it less of an ass pull? Please?
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* Why can't you go in age order, James? Also, Angel already has a book! It's called "The Angel Experiment"
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* ((I heard that this was going to be released!)) But seriously, this should have been the 7th book, not ANGEL
* Why can't you go in age order, James? Also, Angel already has a book! It's called "The Angel Experiment"
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* ((I heard that this was going to be released!)) But seriously, this should have been the 7th book, not ANGEL
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* Am I the only troper who thought that Total suddenly growing wings - after he said he needed them - was a little too convinient?
** Granted, he's not very good with them.
** Granted, he's not very good with them.
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* I hate the ending, I just hate it. You take the perfect 'ship, add a little drama, and BLAM. 'Goodbye, Max, see you in 20-30 years!'
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* The books started going downhill in book four, but, somehow, I feel this one is worse. It feels like a fan fic at times, like [[WallBanger when Max and Fang go to Vegas.]] I mean, Vegas? You know there's supposed to be a plot to these, right?
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*The books started going downhill in book four, but, somehow, I feel this one is worse. It feels like a fan fic at times, like [[WallBanger when Max and Fang go to Vegas.]] I mean, Vegas? You know there's supposed to be a plot to these, right?
*I can't be the ONLY one who saw that ending coming.
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**Agreed, though I personally enjoyed the first three.
*I hate how the characters are so over-powered. When the [[WallBanger blind character can see]], you know things are getting ridiculous.
*I hate how the characters are so over-powered. When the [[WallBanger blind character can see]], you know things are getting ridiculous.
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* What happened to Anne Walker and Marian Janssen? I'm biased since they're two of my favorite characters, but seriously, where are they? Anne disappears halfway through book 3 and we don't see what happens to Marian after Max and Nudge save her.
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* The writing. JUST HOLY CRAP the writing. It wouldn't be so bad with the books being rather episodic if they had started out episodic, but the first three books seemed to be following a grand plotline about the kids' origins and finding their parents and getting rid of the School... which is promptly dumped for episodic environment saving in ''The Final Warning''. And piled on top of that is the erratic character development, the random picking up and dumping of various plot threads, the sudden revelations that have effects for only a few chapters, the random skills and powers gained that see one or two uses for plot convenience and then never appear again. And just about every character being a caricature/stereotype, random viewpoints, dropped characters, several WhatHappenedToTheMouse moments... This series is an extreme WallBanger if you stop to think about anything that's happening in it. It's like James Patterson thought that he could just write crap down and as long as it was fast-paced and kind of actiony, people would eat it up (which unfortunately they have). As an amateur writer who actually gives a crap about things like continuity and intelligence and consistent writing to make a good story, this series is entirely INFURIATING.
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** Max mentions at one point in FANG that Angel no longer plays with Celeste as much as she used to. So I guess we assume she's still got it, just not as interested.
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* The fact that most of these entries seem to be written by Fang/Max fangirls who seem to care more about the ship than the plot.
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* The bomb in the pizza. BigLippedAlligatorMoment to the [[IncrediblyLamePun max!]]
* This Book also has F-15s chasing the flock. And they run away. [[WallBanger From Supersonic Jets.]]
* This Book also has F-15s chasing the flock. And they run away. [[WallBanger From Supersonic Jets.]]
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* Holy crap, here we go. Angel is supposed to be a sweet, innocent character who the reader loves and wouldn't want anything to happen to. By the time I read Fang, I really hated this kid. She almost got most of the flock killed, was a complete idiot, and nobody said anything. They honestly let a very under qualified six year old take over.
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*** Also, the cop out suicide thing. Seriously, what the hell? He appears to commit suicide, then it runs out he didn't. Why was that scene even there?
