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20th Nov '16 1:25:05 AM CutiePieGirl
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*How do they keep bringing Ari back to life? That happens plenty of times and this suggests that in general, bringing people back to life can be done, so how did they do it? In "maximum ride forever" Dylan uses the technology in his own body to bring Fang back to life but it kills him and the technology in him is brand new stuff. What were they using before then and did it require killing someone else, every time or did Dylan just really not want to live anymore? That's a tough one.






* In later books Maximum develops some really weird voice in her head that causes incredibly painful headaches and also interferes with technology around. While there is speculation as to who the voice is and why it's been put in her head, they never really explain it well. In earlier books they say it might be Jeb. In the final book they suggest it was angel the whole time and because she can see the future and read minds this is not that impossible except that the voice was not recognized by Max as angel's voice which it normally is right? And the technological stuff is left totally unexplained.

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* In later books Maximum develops some that really weird voice in her head that causes incredibly painful headaches and also interferes with technology around. While there is speculation as to who the voice is and why it's been put in her head, they never really explain it well. In earlier books they say it might be Jeb. In the final book they suggest it was angel the whole time and because she can see the future and read minds this is not that impossible except that the voice was not recognized by Max as angel's voice which it normally is right? And the technological stuff is left totally unexplained.
20th Nov '16 1:19:27 AM CutiePieGirl
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* I got a load of questions about total. How in the heck did he literally grow wings because that is so strange, and their explanation isn't too agreeable. J.P. kind of just shrugged his shoulders and said "Well, mutations or... something."
* Also who owned akila and willingly gave her up to be total's bride? Wouldn't you be a little weirded out if that was your dog being given away?

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* I got a load of questions about total. How Mainly, how in the heck did he literally grow wings because that is so strange, and their explanation isn't too agreeable. J.P. kind of just shrugged his shoulders and said "Well, mutations or... something."
* Also who owned akila *Also this happens a lot in the series and willingly gave her up the explanations are usually about the same. That they either were meant to be total's bride? Wouldn't you be a little weirded out if have these powers from the start and the genes just became activated, or that they just keep mutating. Those must be some seriously volatile genetics that can just pick up powers effortlessly.
*In early books there's that scene where Nudge licks her finger and then runs it over the screen of a computer and magically knows the password. Though any time afterwards, this power is never used again, and there are plenty of times it
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*In later books Maximum develops some really weird voice in her head that causes incredibly painful headaches and also interferes with technology around. While there is speculation as to who the voice is and why it's been put in her head, they never really explain it well. In earlier books they say it might be Jeb. In the final book they suggest it was angel the whole time and because she can see the future and read minds this is not that impossible except that the voice was not recognized by Max as angel's voice which it normally is right? And the technological stuff is left totally unexplained.
*In the book "MAX" maximum and the others are on a submarine and by the end of it they have gills and can breathe underwater, also maximum is immune to deep sea pressure. These are two very convenient and unexplained mutations.
20th Nov '16 1:06:04 AM CutiePieGirl
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*I got a load of questions about total. How in the heck did he literally grow wings because that is so strange, and their explanation isn't too agreeable. J.P. kind of just shrugged his shoulders and said "Well, mutations or... something."
*Also who owned akila and willingly gave her up to be total's bride? Wouldn't you be a little weirded out if that was your dog being given away?
29th May '16 8:45:27 PM MichaelKatsuro
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* I'm aware that living on there own for years and years has given the flock quite a few survival skills that most people don't possess, but Iggy is getting to be seriously impossible. Over the course of the books it's become harder and harder for me, a totally blind person, to suspend my disbelief in regards to Iggy's abilities. He walks alone without a cane or a guide dog, and often without verbile direction, effortlessly threading his way around things in his path. He can fly in pitch battle against Erasers or what have you, when everyone else is too busy to help him, and still has never, as I recall, been seriously injured by someone he may not have heard coming in the commotion. Occasionally people will give him directions on where to go in battle, but that only sparingly. Also, he comments in "Max" that his echolocation works better under water, which makes no sense: If he echolocates as some blind people do, he uses his ears to tell where the sound is blocked by a wall or other obsticle; this would be completely screwed over when he's under water. If he echolocates like dolphins do, it would be different, but it's never stated one way or the other.

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* I'm aware that living on there own for years and years has given the flock quite a few survival skills that most people don't possess, but Iggy is getting to be seriously impossible. Over the course of the books it's become harder and harder for me, a totally blind person, to suspend my disbelief in regards to Iggy's abilities. He walks alone without a cane or a guide dog, and often without verbile verbal direction, effortlessly threading his way around things in his path. He can fly in pitch battle against Erasers or what have you, when everyone else is too busy to help him, and still has never, as I recall, been seriously injured by someone he may not have heard coming in the commotion. Occasionally people will give him directions on where to go in battle, but that only sparingly. Also, he comments in "Max" that his echolocation works better under water, which makes no sense: If he echolocates echo-locates as some blind people do, he uses his ears to tell where the sound is blocked by a wall or other obsticle; obstacle; this would be completely screwed over when he's under water. If he echolocates echo-locates like dolphins do, it would be different, but it's never stated one way or the other.


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*** Also, if he were 98% dog and 1% human it'd make him ''less'' human than most dogs, not more. Usually, over 80% of the DNA of dogs is identical to human DNA.
23rd Nov '15 10:39:38 PM Hecate13
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* In the first book Fang tries to gross-out Nudge by pretending that kabob meat is rat. When Max hears about it she seems amused and exasperated "I met Fang’s eyes over her shoulder and mouthed Rats? silently. A flicker of a grin crossed his lips and then was gone." Later in the series she talks about eating rats like it is something that the flock does on a regular basis, and you shouldn't judge or be grossed-out. There was also a scene in the first book where Fang pretended that hot dogs were racoon meat, which also horrified Nudge.
13th Jul '15 4:54:19 PM PhoenixMartinez
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** I haven't read them in a while, but didn't she just say what their wings looked like?
14th Jun '15 8:40:45 PM LiterateFangirl
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* What the fuck happened to the clones of Angel and Nudge that were mentioned to be ambling about the Itex compound? One second they're in sight, the next they were forgotten? They certainly didn't make a Maya-level reappearance.
20th Feb '15 3:57:29 PM furubatsu
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** Didn't it reveal later on that The School knew all along where the flock was? Maybe they were monitoring the cabin and keeping things like food and electricity going, since the flock never knew a live outside of that, they just kinda rolled with it.
20th May '14 7:06:17 AM Krykky
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* Prior to the events of The Angel Experiment, how did they get food? Max says something like she "hopes the food fairies had come during the night" in the first chapter, but I assumed it was just a turn of phrase being used to sort of brush the issue under the rug. It's something that's always bugged this troper. I mean, Jeb rescued them and was with them for a few years, but they've been alone for at least two. They seem to be pretty skilled at stealing right from the start of the series, but their cliff-side house seemed to be pretty far away from civilisation for safety reasons, so it seems unlikely they'd have regularly stolen without raising an alarm from locals.
8th Mar '14 10:37:39 PM Assamadeir
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* This sort of spans the first three books, but what was the deal with the Flock's parents?
** In ''The Angel Experiment'', Angel reads the minds of some scientists and finds out that Fang's mother was a teenager who thought he died, Nudge's mother also thought she died (and she may or may not be the woman they saw in Arizona), Iggy's mom died in childbirth, and Angel and the Gasman's parents sold them to the School. Angel also says that the Flock were created during amniocentesis, with the implication being that the parents had no idea what was going on.
** In ''School's Out - Forever'', the documents show that the Flock's family members all seem to be in the Maryland/Washington D.C. area and Iggy's dad's dead but his mom's alive. They later seem to find Iggy's birth parents (who claim that their baby was kidnapped in the hospital and that he had the same birthmark Iggy has). Nudge finds documents seemingly forged by Jeb which allowed the School to take her for experimentation, along with a video of her parents asking for her to be returned, along with the implication that said parents were now dead. The implication is still that the parents were all unwitting.
** In ''Saving the World and Other Extreme Sports'', the Director tells Max that the Flock's birth parents were all various unimportant workers around the School. Jeb later seems to confirm this, when it's revealed that [[spoiler:he and Dr. Martinez are Max's parents.]] But then what was up with all of the above stuff? Jeb says that he thinks it's all red herrings, but did James Patterson really just fill up two or so books with deliberate dead ends? If so, talk about {{Padding}}!

* In ''MAX'', Max said that she once drove a TANK and the only other thing she said about it is that it "Smells like old socks". Where, when, why or how did she get her hands on this MILITARY vehicle?

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\n* * This sort of spans the first three books, but what was the deal with the Flock's parents?
** ** In ''The Angel Experiment'', Angel reads the minds of some scientists and finds out that Fang's mother was a teenager who thought he died, Nudge's mother also thought she died (and she may or may not be the woman they saw in Arizona), Iggy's mom died in childbirth, and Angel and the Gasman's parents sold them to the School. Angel also says that the Flock were created during amniocentesis, with the implication being that the parents had no idea what was going on.
** ** In ''School's Out - Forever'', the documents show that the Flock's family members all seem to be in the Maryland/Washington D.C. area and Iggy's dad's dead but his mom's alive. They later seem to find Iggy's birth parents (who claim that their baby was kidnapped in the hospital and that he had the same birthmark Iggy has). Nudge finds documents seemingly forged by Jeb which allowed the School to take her for experimentation, along with a video of her parents asking for her to be returned, along with the implication that said parents were now dead. The implication is still that the parents were all unwitting.
** ** In ''Saving the World and Other Extreme Sports'', the Director tells Max that the Flock's birth parents were all various unimportant workers around the School. Jeb later seems to confirm this, when it's revealed that [[spoiler:he and Dr. Martinez are Max's parents.]] But then what was up with all of the above stuff? Jeb says that he thinks it's all red herrings, but did James Patterson really just fill up two or so books with deliberate dead ends? If so, talk about {{Padding}}!

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In ''MAX'', Max said that she once drove a TANK and the only other thing she said about it is that it "Smells like old socks". Where, when, why or how did she get her hands on this MILITARY vehicle?
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* What happened to Celeste, anyway? The bear just... disappeared.
** Max mentions at one point in FANG that Angel no longer plays with Celeste as much as she used to. So I guess we assume she's still got it, just not as interested.

* What's up with Total knowing more about pop culture and the like than the Flock (who, one would think, spent more time in the outside world). Was he a normal dog with a human's brain put in? What?
** I believe he is a 98% Dog 1% Human 1% Bird mixture, as he is a dog that can talk and has little tiny wings. He knows a lot about pop culture because, I believe, he actually cares about it.
*** But he was seemingly kept in a lab for most of his life and just seems to understand culture more than the Flock do. Maybe he just has a know-it-all personality, but it just seems...off.

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\n* * What happened to Celeste, anyway? The bear just... disappeared.
** ** Max mentions at one point in FANG that Angel no longer plays with Celeste as much as she used to. So I guess we assume she's still got it, just not as interested. \n\n*
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What's up with Total knowing more about pop culture and the like than the Flock (who, one would think, spent more time in the outside world). Was he a normal dog with a human's brain put in? What?
** ** I believe he is a 98% Dog 1% Human 1% Bird mixture, as he is a dog that can talk and has little tiny wings. He knows a lot about pop culture because, I believe, he actually cares about it.
*** *** But he was seemingly kept in a lab for most of his life and just seems to understand culture more than the Flock do. Maybe he just has a know-it-all personality, but it just seems...off.
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* What happened to Anne Walker and Marian Janssen? I'm biased since they're two of my favorite characters, but seriously, where are they? Anne disappears halfway through book 3 and we don't see what happens to Marian after Max and Nudge save her.

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\n* * What happened to Anne Walker and Marian Janssen? I'm biased since they're two of my favorite characters, but seriously, where are they? Anne disappears halfway through book 3 and we don't see what happens to Marian after Max and Nudge save her.
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Just one question. How the hell did six kids escape The School, which has to be very powerful if it can hire scientist to do illegal experimentation and not get caught, even if they had Jeb's help!
* They were let go. Sort of a "Make them think they escaped but really we're letting them go" scenario.

Here's one for you guys: anyone got a reason why Itex never got a visit from a SEAL? Surely a company like that can't keep birdkids secret from the MILITARY...if they're supposedly as much a danger as the Flock makes them, why were they never eliminated?

* Where are the powers coming from? Not only does it make no genetic sense for the flock to be mutating fast enough to get random powers throughout the series (without, you know, growing extra arms and the like), but it makes even less sense to program super-speed, magnetism, mind reading, ect. into the human body without rewritting the laws of physics.

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* Just one question. How the hell did six kids escape The School, which has to be very powerful if it can hire scientist to do illegal experimentation and not get caught, even if they had Jeb's help!
* ** They were let go. Sort of a "Make them think they escaped but really we're letting them go" scenario.

scenario.
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Here's one for you guys: anyone got a reason why Itex never got a visit from a SEAL? Surely a company like that can't keep birdkids secret from the MILITARY...MILITARY... if they're supposedly as much a danger as the Flock makes them, why were they never eliminated?

eliminated?
* Where are the powers coming from? Not only does it make no genetic sense for the flock to be mutating fast enough to get random powers throughout the series (without, you know, growing extra arms and the like), but it makes even less sense to program super-speed, magnetism, mind reading, ect. into the human body without rewritting the laws of physics.physics.

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