History Headscratchers / Infamous

*** Think of it this way: Nix and Kuo are {{FragileSpeedster}}s, Cole is the [[LightningBruiser Lighting]] [[IncrediblyLamePun Bruiser]]. He's got the best of both worlds, but can't do ''everything'' (though if Kessler is anything to go by, he will eventually get teleport powers.)

* How are a bunch of petty gangbangers, [[spoiler: brainwashed civilians]], and homeless people getting all these guns? And bombs? And rocket/grenade launchers? At least the First Sons have the excuse of being backed by some kind of Masonic Cult, but assuming that Kessler isn't just throwing crates of [=AKs=] at anyone who might consider shooting at Cole, what explanation is ther for the well-armed Reapers and Dustmen?

* Why would Kessler [[spoiler:ensure his own death when he could have hung around and assisted [=ColeB=] in fighting the Beast? Or ensured that [=ColeB=] also went back in time, eventually creating an army of lightning-flinging bike messengers so large even the Beast couldn't stop them?]]
** Justified; Because his own death is [[MyDeathIsOnlyTheBeginning part of the plan]]; see ILetYouWin below. He even comes right out and says this after [[spoiler: Cole tells him he's going to rip him apart after he killed Trish,]] taking it a step further and admitting that he just doesn't have it in him anymore after the decades-long {{plan}}. If this idea ever occurred to Kessler, he'd have dismissed it after taking all of five seconds to realize that [[spoiler: the atrocities he has to commit to both ''make'' Cole a lightning-flinging bike messenger ''and'' traumatize Cole to toughen him up pretty much precludes the idea of them ever fighting on the same side.]]

* [[spoiler:Kessler's plan doesn't really make sense when you think about it. His mistake was heading to safety with his family instead of fighting the Beast, which is easily correctable by telling Cole "When the Beast comes, send your family away, but you stay and fight, 'kay?" as opposed to killing Trish and trying to make Cole evil.]]
** [[spoiler: True, Kessler would probably have made things so much easier on everyone if he bothered to just ''tell'' Cole about the Beast and train him directly, but it's hinted at that the Beast was too much for even Kessler to stop. He set up this whole crisis to make sure that this particular version of himself would be young, powerful, and ruthless enough to hunt down the Beast before his rampage. He set himself up as the BigBad just to make sure that Cole would have to become stronger than he is. It wasn't a great plan, but it worked.]]
*** [[spoiler: Remember the dialogue states that the Beast was ''hunting'' Future Cole, so it's possible it would have gone after them for the evils. Plus by that point Kessler must have thought that his family made him weak, whereas Cole would have to be strong to defeat the beast. He more or less took the choice away from Cole to live a normal life so when the time came he would have no choice but to fight. Plus Kessler also wanted Cole to be able to make impossible decisions; apparently "Punch-kick-thunder from the heavens" wouldn't be enough to win the day.]]
*** Confirmed. When ''VideoGame/{{inFAMOUS 2}}'' ''starts,'' [[spoiler: the Beast kicks Cole's ass right out of Empire City.]] Kessler definitely couldn't have handled it from the beginning.
*** [[spoiler: When you think about it, maybe Kessler couldn't kill the beast at all. In ''VideoGame/{{inFAMOUS 2}}'' even at the end end when Cole is at his strongest, he can't overpower The Beast. He had to use an alternate method.]]

*** [[spoiler: In ''VideoGame/{{inFAMOUS 2}}'', you can indeed climb chainlink fences, and even [[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments get a trophy for doing so.]]]]

*** Think about it. Kessler's life is different from the present Cole's life. There was probably no way he could find out where The Beast came from. Plus, if you remember in inFamous 2, [[spoiler: John explained he was using his powers to get rid of the plague by killing humanity and unlocking the powers in conduits.]] There was possibly no plague in Kessler's time as I know of, so The Beast would have a different reason to do what it was doing, meaning a possible different origin. Either way,probably no one could guess that [[spoiler: the Ray Sphere turned John into The Beast.]] This is possibly why, as heard in the dead drops, [[spoiler: Kessler didn't kill John while he had him strapped to a chair and let him in on the experiment.]]

*** If you have bad karma, the bitchiness gets worse. Right after you protect her as she [[spoiler:drives a bus through a gang war, getting you shot and blown up quite a bit, forcing you to clear roadblocks for her, and then saving her from a hostage situation... she chooses right there to break up with you.]]

*** The fanfic in question is [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/6966485/1/inPrototype_then_spoke_the_thunder here]], incidentally, and the specific context of the quote is (spoiler for '''chapter''', I dunno, '''thirty''' or so? It's a ways off) [[spoiler:a butcher, a friend of Zeke's, holding Zeke at cleaver-point, so to speak, planning to kill him and distribute him to the starving public as meat. As it happens, he started giving away his food, then ran out of food to give away. Zeke is trying to use standard hostage techniques by making the guy see him as a person instead of just meat. To that end, Zeke asks if he's just meat to him, just "Louisiana Long Pork", according to my current outline.]] I suppose it's close enough.

** They don't seem to be so much interested in a cover-up as in getting the power of the Sphere for themselves. Heck, [[spoiler:the government helped develop it]], according to one comic.

* Why did Kessler think the best plan was to [[spoiler:accelerate the Ray Sphere process? Conduits only seem to activate their power of their gene via the Ray Sphere, and seeing as how the Beast is ''obviously'' some manner of Super Conduit, wouldn't it make more sense to prevent the Ray Sphere from being created in the first place? If he eliminated all the data and minds behind the Ray Sphere's creation, wouldn't this prevent everything he hated about his future? The Beast wouldn't be born, his past self could have the future he always wanted, and many more people would live than in his actual plan, which arguably made things WORSE!]]

*** Actually [[spoiler:Cole can fly in the Good Final Mission of inFAMOUS 2.]]
*** Don't you mean the [[spoiler:Evil Final Mission? Though that's less flying and more being kept aloft by the Beast.]] Evil Cole ''can'' fly in the second game after a fashion, using Nix's Firebird Strike power. He basically turns into a phoenix and charges forward and explodes. You can keep chaining it as long you have energy. At max you can even fly across to the next island at the right spots.

* "I'm looking for an agent named John White. He's been investigating the device that blew up Empire City and gave you your powers; finding him will help both of us. Plus, once he's located, I can get you out of the quarantine zone." That's all Moya needed to say to get Cole to cooperate, so why [[spoiler: tell him a pack of lies that he's guaranteed to find out are BS as soon as he finds John? She says she needed Cole to "sympathize" with her, but she really didn't; he would've gone after John and the Ray Sphere without the lies. Plus, if I wanted someone's sympathy, I probably wouldn't start threatening him on the phone as soon as he left my office.]]
** Is "Moya is stupid and a bad judge of character" a good explanation? Remember later on that she tries to guilt Cole by [[spoiler: implying that the military bombing the city is his fault]]. That doesn't make much sense either, and Cole says as much.

* [[spoiler: It might be that she's just lying, but]] Moya claims that the whole quarantine procedure - complete with ''machineguns firing into crowds'', destroyers ready to sink boats coming out of the city and plans to ''bomb the whole place into a crater if the first two fail'' are "standard procedure" in case of a biological thread. Seriously? I know there are some pretty crazy theories about the American governments' "Dark Winter" plans, but are we (and more importantly, is Cole) supposed to believe it'd be "standard procedure" to just ''nuke New-York'' in case of a pandemic? That doesn't even make sense on a practical level - why would bombing the city prevent a disease from spreading? It feels like somebody's mistaking FEMA for some kind of military occupation trying to keep people in the city ForTheEvulz.

* How does Cole take a shower? See SuperDrowningSkills for speculation. Related; how does Cole...[[ADateWithRosiePalms pass the time?]]

** As for the second question, he would probably...[[ADateWithRosiePalms pass the time]] the same way ''normal'' people do; in private, with no one in the, ah, blast range. One must wonder how he can... enjoy human companionship, though.

** Stress, probably. You're one of the few doctors left in a city filled with [[TheVirus biological mutants,]] [[EnemySummoner Fero-Kinetic Vagrants,]] [[{{Golem}} their giant scrap-mechs,]] and Gas masked Victorian storm troopers, all of whom are crazy [[KillEmAll trigger happy]]. And your boyfriend is the #1 most wanted criminal in the town. She takes a lot out on him, but she's [[UnfazedEveryman gone sane in a crazy world.]]

* How are a bunch of petty gangbangers, [[spoiler: brainwashed civilians]], and homeless people getting all these guns? And bombs? And rocket/grenade launchers? At least the First Sons have the excuse of being backed by some kind of Masonic Cult, but assuming that Kessler isn't just throwing crates of AKs at anyone who might consider shooting at Cole, what explanation is ther for the well-armed Reapers and Dustmen?

*** [[spoiler: In ''VideoGame/{{inFAMOUS 2}}'', you can indeed climb chainlink fences, and even [[{{CrowningMomentOfFunny}} get a trophy for doing so.]]]]

* [[spoiler: It might be that she's just lying, but]] Moya claims that the whole quarantine procedure - complete with ''machineguns firing into crowds'', destroyers ready to sink boats coming out of the city and plans to ''bomb the whole place into a crater if the first two fail'' are "standard procedure" in case of a biological thread. Seriously? I know there are some pretty crazy theories about the American governments' "Dark Winter" plans, but are we (and more importantly, is Cole) supposed to believe it'd be "standard procedure" to just ''nuke New-York'' in case of a pandemic? That doesn't even make sense on a practical level - why would bombing the city prevent a disease from spreading? It feels like somebody's mistaking FEMA for some kind of military occupation trying to keep people in the city ForTheEvulz.

** As for the second question, he would probably...[[ADateWithRosiePalms pass the time]] the same way ''normal'' people do; in private, with no one in the, ah, blast range. One must wonder how he can...[[AManIsNotAVirgin enjoy human companionship,]] though.

* "I'm looking for an agent named John White. He's been investigating the device that blew up Empire City and gave you your powers; finding him will help both of us. Plus, once he's located, I can get you out of the quarantine zone." That's all Moya needed to say to get Cole to cooperate, so why [[spoiler: tell him a pack of lies that he's guaranteed to find out are BS as soon as he finds John? She says he needed Cole to "sympathize" with her, but she really didn't; he would've gone after John and the Ray Sphere without the lies. Plus, if I wanted someone's sympathy, I probably wouldn't start threatening him on the phone as soon as he left my office.]]

*** That starts to head into GambitRoulette territory. Kessler wasn't omniscient. It was unlikely that he knew that the Ray Sphere detonation would result in other Conduits getting a power boost, or that he expected hordes of bush league Conduits coming out of the woodwork. He probably thought that he was justing getting a kid out of the way without actually killing him.

** Perhaps Sasha has a way of getting guns for the Reapers. And the dustmen may have a way of creating their own weapons, considering they can create machinery with their mind.

** That's why the capitalization is the way it is. It' simultaneously Famous and Infamous. Notice, the status is Infamous, not inFAMOUS.

** Officially, small amounts of water are fine. And before you ask; sponge baths.

* Why is it when you're EVIL Cole, people will still try to get you to heal them? I'm pretty sure asking a super VILLAIN to heal you is like begging them to beat the crap out of you, if not kill you.

* Kessler kicking Alden out to the curb as a young kid was probably the worst thing he could have done (not to mention an unnecessary KickTheDog move). Just put the kid up for adoption somewhere far away where he'd never be heard from again, or groom him as a kind of {{Dragon}}, or just flat out kill him. Any of those would have been better then kicking him out into your backyard and letting the resentment simmer over years of hardship in someone who can move buses with his mind!

*** That starts to head into GambitRoulette territory. Kessler wasn't omnipotent. It was unlikely that he knew that the Ray Sphere detonation would result in other Conduits getting a power boost, or that he expected hordes of bush league Conduits coming out of the woodwork. He probably thought that he was justing getting a kid out of the way without actually killing him.