History Headscratchers / ICarly

8th Oct '17 2:11:53 PM nombretomado
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*** Turns out the new show is ''SamAndCat''. Drake Bell hasn't been linked to this one, but was quite heavily linked to the original idea.
* Why of all people is Sam getting a SpinOff? Especially considering the premise to ''SamAndCat'', that they take up babysitting. Are we forgetting "iSell Penny Tees" happened? Sam never learns a lesson, so it wouldn't surprise me if she just beat up the children and got away with it.

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*** Turns out the new show is ''SamAndCat''.''Series/SamAndCat''. Drake Bell hasn't been linked to this one, but was quite heavily linked to the original idea.
* Why of all people is Sam getting a SpinOff? Especially considering the premise to ''SamAndCat'', ''Series/SamAndCat'', that they take up babysitting. Are we forgetting "iSell Penny Tees" happened? Sam never learns a lesson, so it wouldn't surprise me if she just beat up the children and got away with it.



** I don't think so. Probably some kind of 'moving on' idea, or perhaps as part of the whole SamAndCat thing.

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** I don't think so. Probably some kind of 'moving on' idea, or perhaps as part of the whole SamAndCat ''Series/SamAndCat'' thing.
1st Jul '17 4:29:01 PM nombretomado
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*** I'm pretty sure that season 4 is 26 episodes total: 13 ending with "iParty With Victorious", then another 13 released later. iTunes still classifies it as season 4 (as far as I know), and according to TheOtherWiki, all 26 are season 4. The production is really screwed up, though, so I could be wrong.

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*** I'm pretty sure that season 4 is 26 episodes total: 13 ending with "iParty With Victorious", then another 13 released later. iTunes still classifies it as season 4 (as far as I know), and according to TheOtherWiki, Wiki/TheOtherWiki, all 26 are season 4. The production is really screwed up, though, so I could be wrong.
24th Jun '17 10:03:57 AM nombretomado
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** Car vs. school building. The car's a [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Corolla_(E70) 30-year-old model]] with a reputation for rusting badly, the school looks to be pre-WorldWarTwo and probably very solidly built. ''''HOW'''' the ''''HELL'''' does the school come out the worse in that!?! (yeah, yeah, RuleOfFunny...)

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** Car vs. school building. The car's a [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Corolla_(E70) 30-year-old model]] with a reputation for rusting badly, the school looks to be pre-WorldWarTwo pre-UsefulNotes/WorldWarII and probably very solidly built. ''''HOW'''' the ''''HELL'''' does the school come out the worse in that!?! (yeah, yeah, RuleOfFunny...)
29th May '17 9:31:35 PM nombretomado
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* Does anyone find it interesting that [[Series/ICarly Miranda]]'s show has bested [[WizardsOfWaverlyPlace Selena's]] for favourite show three times in a row, yet Selena wins best actress over her those same times? Honestly, ''iCarly'''s current season is averaging over 5 million viewers per episode. ''Wizards'' currently has 3.7 I think. So what factored into how she got so many votes? And this is coming from someone who voted Victoria for favourite actress, should that mean anything.

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* Does anyone find it interesting that [[Series/ICarly Miranda]]'s show has bested [[WizardsOfWaverlyPlace [[Series/WizardsOfWaverlyPlace Selena's]] for favourite show three times in a row, yet Selena wins best actress over her those same times? Honestly, ''iCarly'''s current season is averaging over 5 million viewers per episode. ''Wizards'' currently has 3.7 I think. So what factored into how she got so many votes? And this is coming from someone who voted Victoria for favourite actress, should that mean anything.



*** This troper always found Megan the only reason to watch that show. She was the only character who wasn't an idiot. But then I feel the same way about Alex and ''WizardsofWaverlyPlace'' and Sam is my favorite character here. I guess I have a thing for evil girls.
*** [[WizardsOfWaverlyPlace Alex]] and Sam aren't evil, they both fall under JerkWithAHeartOfGold.


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*** This troper always found Megan the only reason to watch that show. She was the only character who wasn't an idiot. But then I feel the same way about Alex and ''WizardsofWaverlyPlace'' ''Series/WizardsofWaverlyPlace'' and Sam is my favorite character here. I guess I have a thing for evil girls.
*** [[WizardsOfWaverlyPlace [[Series/WizardsOfWaverlyPlace Alex]] and Sam aren't evil, they both fall under JerkWithAHeartOfGold.

11th Mar '17 5:06:12 PM nombretomado
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** I'm guessing all the new found Music/JustinBieber related friends couldn't get past the amount of total ''iCarly'' fans. Who else was up for that award Selena won? The other Nick stars probably split the vote. MirandaCosgrove is considered boring for a reason, and that reason is a lot of the [[JennetteMcCurdy Jennette]] fans.

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** I'm guessing all the new found Music/JustinBieber related friends couldn't get past the amount of total ''iCarly'' fans. Who else was up for that award Selena won? The other Nick stars probably split the vote. MirandaCosgrove Creator/MirandaCosgrove is considered boring for a reason, and that reason is a lot of the [[JennetteMcCurdy Jennette]] fans.
25th Feb '17 2:51:38 PM nombretomado
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* Crazy Steve was too busy going to a {{Dora the Explorer}} convention.

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* Crazy Steve was too busy going to a {{Dora the Explorer}} ''WesternAnimation/DoraTheExplorer'' convention.
6th Jan '17 7:16:55 AM SeptimusHeap
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** [[FreudWasRight I can think of one good reason ...]]

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** [[FreudWasRight I can think of one good reason ...]]
reason ...
28th Oct '16 5:27:38 PM Scsigs
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* As a showrunner, you have to find a way to keep your show not feeling its age as the years go by. Unless you're purposefully pandering to your demographic. Drake & Josh did that wonderfully. Yeah, due to the technology, & the fact that it's stuck in 4:3 by the nature of being filmed on videotape, so they can't give it a proper HD remastering 1080p & widescreen, you can easily tell it was made from the early-mid 2000s if you didn't already know. Thing is, even with how old Drake & Josh is, it wasn't nearly as gimmicky as iCarly was. iMeet Fred is the most gimmicky episode of the show. The One Direction episode doesn't even touch this one. If any future kid saw this episode, & actually thought Fred was funny, they could look his videos up on YouTube & discover that they were made back in the mid-late 2000s. Plus, Lucas is a complete non-entity in today's media besides being a laughing stock. So, not only is this episode dated as hell, but it's not even a good one. It's not realistic whatsoever. Fred's audience apparently has a PeripheryDemographic of high school kids & other teens? What? What self-respecting teen liked Fred? Fred was, quite literally, the Pewdiepie of the late 2000s. Over the top acting, obnoxious personality, very gimmicky, & only really appeals to children. I know these shows are made for kids, but I thought the main demographic was set higher than 6-year-olds. Then there's the fact that neither Carly, or Sam back Freddie up. Sam I understand, she could give less of a crap most of the time, but Carly? She's supposed to be the voice of reason/compassion out of the 3 to Sam & Freddie's larger personalities that are parts of them, seeing as they're constantly in conflict with another. Maybe she likes Fred, maybe she's the one that brought up promoting him through their show, but she's really not going to back up Freddie's opinion even if she has to play Devil's advocate? Then, we get to Lucas. The conflict set up sees to be, as PIEGUYRULZ put it, based on the AVGN/Nostalgia Critic war from back in the day, but Lucas doesn't email them that that was his plan only for the sake of drama for the show's audience IRL. I don't blame him, since he was still a teenager & he was written to be that way at the time, but he comes off as a {{Jerkass}}. Especially with the way he reacts to Freddie getting the crap kicked out of him by Sam to force him into a forced, half-hearted apology Lucas didn't even deserve. Then there's the video they shot to announce the fight was over. Why would Freddie volunteer to shoot such a thing? Carly sure, Sam sure, but if I were Freddie, I'd be too justifiably salty towards Lucas to even stay for the shooting, let alone shoot such a thing. I know they haven't had to deal with DMCA's, real world logic, etc, but even shows that run on their own logic, like, say, The Simpsons, still manage to keep the characters realistic, or at least in-character for more than the beginning of the episode. Honestly, what was Dan thinking when he greenlit this idea? I get the want to do it, but 1, couldn't they have picked a better internet personality with staying power passed a few years, & 2, could they not write the episode better? This episode takes the vocal minority of a peripheral demographic, makes the peripheral demographic the main demographic, & turns them from the SilentMajority they would be into them into the VocalMinority in terms of their mindset. On top of that, Freddie could easily go to Principal Franklin & tell them about how people are vocally & physically bullying him, even though they'd probably sooner bully him over Facebook, or whatever they have for social media, or their message boards on the site where they have anonymity. I have a feeling he'd care enough to do SOMETHING to help, but knowing the rules of the Schneiderverse, it'd probably sooner backfire somehow than help. Freddie's totally in the right for not liking Fred for his reasons though &, after dealing with fans of a famous band's fanbase who don't know how to take criticism, AKA the vocal minority, I'd say he has a right to be angry at Lucas as well as everyone who bullied him. Lucas was the one that got everyone to point their guns at Freddie in the first place, so if anything, Lucas should make a very public, very heartfelt, apology to Freddie to make up for it at the very least. Had this be real life & Lucas still be relevant, Freddie'd make an "exposed" video on him because of the experience. This episode's just illogical, even for Dan Schneider & Nickelodeon, & terrible.

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* As a showrunner, you have to find a way to keep your show not feeling its age as the years go by. Unless you're purposefully pandering to your demographic. Drake & Josh did that wonderfully. Yeah, due to the technology, & the fact that it's stuck in 4:3 by the nature of being filmed on videotape, so they can't give it a proper HD remastering 1080p & widescreen, you can easily tell it was made from the early-mid 2000s if you didn't already know. Thing is, even with how old Drake & Josh is, it wasn't nearly as gimmicky as iCarly was. iMeet Fred is the most gimmicky episode of the show. The One Direction episode doesn't even touch this one. If any future kid saw this episode, & actually thought Fred was funny, they could look his videos up on YouTube & discover that they were made back in the mid-late 2000s. Plus, Lucas is a complete non-entity in today's media besides being a laughing stock. So, not only is this episode dated as hell, but it's not even a good one. It's not realistic whatsoever. Fred's audience apparently has a PeripheryDemographic of high school kids & other teens? What? What self-respecting teen liked Fred? Fred was, quite literally, the Pewdiepie of the late 2000s. Over the top acting, obnoxious personality, very gimmicky, & only really appeals to children. I know these shows are made for kids, but I thought the main demographic was set higher than 6-year-olds. Then there's the fact that neither Carly, or Sam back Freddie up. Sam I understand, she could give less of a crap most of the time, but Carly? She's supposed to be the voice of reason/compassion out of the 3 to Sam & Freddie's larger personalities that are parts of them, seeing as they're constantly in conflict with another. Maybe she likes Fred, maybe she's the one that brought up promoting him through their show, but she's really not going to back up Freddie's opinion even if she has to play Devil's advocate? Then, we get to Lucas. The conflict set up sees to be, as PIEGUYRULZ put it, based on the AVGN/Nostalgia Critic war from back in the day, but Lucas doesn't email them that that was his plan only for the sake of drama for the show's audience IRL. I don't blame him, since he was still a teenager & he was written to be that way at the time, but he comes off as a {{Jerkass}}. Especially with the way he reacts to Freddie getting the crap kicked out of him by Sam to force him into a forced, half-hearted apology Lucas didn't even deserve. Then there's the video they shot to announce the fight was over. Why would Freddie volunteer to shoot such a thing? Carly sure, Sam sure, but if I were Freddie, I'd be too justifiably salty towards Lucas to even stay for the shooting, let alone shoot such a thing. I know they haven't had to deal with DMCA's, real world logic, etc, but even shows that run on their own logic, like, say, The Simpsons, still manage to keep the characters realistic, or at least in-character for more than the beginning of the episode. Honestly, what was Dan thinking when he greenlit this idea? I get the want to do it, but 1, couldn't they have picked a better internet personality with staying power passed a few years, & 2, could they not write the episode better? This episode takes the vocal minority of a peripheral demographic, makes the peripheral demographic the main demographic, & turns them from the SilentMajority they would be into them into the VocalMinority in terms of their mindset. mindsets. On top of that, Freddie could easily go to Principal Franklin & tell them him about how people are vocally & physically bullying him, even though they'd probably sooner bully him over Facebook, or whatever they have for social media, or their message boards on the site where they have anonymity. I have a feeling he'd care enough to do SOMETHING to help, but knowing the rules of the Schneiderverse, it'd probably sooner backfire somehow than help. Freddie's totally in the right for not liking Fred for his reasons though &, after dealing with fans of a famous band's fanbase who don't know how to take criticism, AKA the vocal minority, I'd say he has a right to be angry at Lucas as well as everyone who bullied him. Lucas was the one that got everyone to point their guns at Freddie in the first place, so if anything, Lucas should make a very public, very heartfelt, apology to Freddie to make up for it at the very least. Had this be real life & Lucas still be relevant, Freddie'd make an "exposed" video on him because of the experience. This episode's just illogical, even for Dan Schneider & Nickelodeon, & terrible.
28th Oct '16 5:21:45 PM Scsigs
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* As a showrunner, you have to find a way to keep your show not feeling its age as the years go by. Unless you're purposefully pandering to your demographic. Drake & Josh did that wonderfully. Yeah, due to the technology, & the fact that it's stuck in 4:3 by the nature of being filmed on videotape, so they can't give it a proper HD remastering 1080p & widescreen, you can easily tell it was made from the early-mid 2000s if you didn't already know. Thing is, even with how old Drake & Josh is, it wasn't nearly as gimmicky as iCarly was. iMeet Fred is the most gimmicky episode of the show. The One Direction episode doesn't even touch this one. If any future kid saw this episode, & actually thought Fred was funny, they could look his videos up on YouTube & discover that they were made back in the mid-late 2000s. Plus, Lucas is a complete non-entity in today's media besides being a laughing stock. So, not only is this episode dated as hell, but it's not even a good one. It's not realistic whatsoever. Fred's audience apparently has a PeripheryDemographic of high school kids & other teens? What? What self-respecting teen liked Fred? Fred was, quite literally, the Pewdiepie of the late 2000s. Over the top acting, obnoxious personality, very gimmicky, & only really appeals to children. I know these shows are made for kids, but I thought the main demographic was set higher than 6-year-olds. Then there's the fact that neither Carly, or Sam back Freddie up. Sam I understand, she could give less of a crap most of the time, but Carly? She's supposed to be the voice of reason/compassion out of the 3 to Sam & Freddie's larger personalities that are parts of them, seeing as they're constantly in conflict with another. Maybe she likes Fred, maybe she's the one that brought up promoting him through their show, but she's really not going to back up Freddie's opinion even if she has to play Devil's advocate? Then, we get to Lucas. The conflict set up sees to be, as PIEGUYRULZ put it, based on the AVGN/Nostalgia Critic war from back in the day, but Lucas doesn't email them that that was his plan only for the sake of drama for the show's audience IRL. I don't blame him, since he was still a teenager & he was written to be that way at the time, but he comes off as a {{Jerkass}}. Especially with the way he reacts to Freddie getting the crap kicked out of him by Sam to force him into a forced, half-hearted apology Lucas didn't even deserve. Then there's the video they shot to announce the fight was over. Why would Freddie volunteer to shoot such a thing? Carly sure, Sam sure, but if I were Freddie, I'd be too justifiably salty towards Lucas to even stay for the shooting, let alone shoot such a thing. I know they haven't had to deal with DMCA's, real world logic, etc, but even shows that run on their own logic, like, say, The Simpsons, still manage to keep the characters realistic, or at least in-character for more than the beginning of the episode. Honestly, what was Dan thinking when he greenlit this idea? I get the want to do it, but 1, couldn't they have picked a better internet personality with staying power passed a few years, & 2, could they not write the episode better? This episode takes the vocal minority of a peripheral demographic, makes the peripheral demographic the main demographic, turns them from the SilentMajority they would be, & turns them into the VocalMinority in terms of their mindset. On top of that, Freddie could easily go to Principal Franklin & tell them about how people are vocally & physically bullying him, even though they'd probably sooner bully him over Facebook, or whatever they have for social media, or their message boards on the site where they have anonymity. I have a feeling He'd care enough to do SOMETHING to help, but knowing the rules of the Schneiderverse, it'd probably sooner backfire than help somehow. Freddie's totally in the right for not liking Fred for his reasons though &, after dealing with fans of a famous band's fanbase who don't know how to take criticism, AKA the vocal minority, I'd say he has a right to be angry at Lucas as well as everyone who bullied him. Lucas was the one that got everyone to point their guns at Freddie in the first place, so if anything, Lucas should make a very public, very heartfelt, apology to Freddie to make up for it at the very least. Had this be real life & Lucas still be relevant, Freddie'd make an "exposed" video on him because of the experience. This episode's just illogical, even for Dan Schneider & Nickelodeon, & terrible.

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* As a showrunner, you have to find a way to keep your show not feeling its age as the years go by. Unless you're purposefully pandering to your demographic. Drake & Josh did that wonderfully. Yeah, due to the technology, & the fact that it's stuck in 4:3 by the nature of being filmed on videotape, so they can't give it a proper HD remastering 1080p & widescreen, you can easily tell it was made from the early-mid 2000s if you didn't already know. Thing is, even with how old Drake & Josh is, it wasn't nearly as gimmicky as iCarly was. iMeet Fred is the most gimmicky episode of the show. The One Direction episode doesn't even touch this one. If any future kid saw this episode, & actually thought Fred was funny, they could look his videos up on YouTube & discover that they were made back in the mid-late 2000s. Plus, Lucas is a complete non-entity in today's media besides being a laughing stock. So, not only is this episode dated as hell, but it's not even a good one. It's not realistic whatsoever. Fred's audience apparently has a PeripheryDemographic of high school kids & other teens? What? What self-respecting teen liked Fred? Fred was, quite literally, the Pewdiepie of the late 2000s. Over the top acting, obnoxious personality, very gimmicky, & only really appeals to children. I know these shows are made for kids, but I thought the main demographic was set higher than 6-year-olds. Then there's the fact that neither Carly, or Sam back Freddie up. Sam I understand, she could give less of a crap most of the time, but Carly? She's supposed to be the voice of reason/compassion out of the 3 to Sam & Freddie's larger personalities that are parts of them, seeing as they're constantly in conflict with another. Maybe she likes Fred, maybe she's the one that brought up promoting him through their show, but she's really not going to back up Freddie's opinion even if she has to play Devil's advocate? Then, we get to Lucas. The conflict set up sees to be, as PIEGUYRULZ put it, based on the AVGN/Nostalgia Critic war from back in the day, but Lucas doesn't email them that that was his plan only for the sake of drama for the show's audience IRL. I don't blame him, since he was still a teenager & he was written to be that way at the time, but he comes off as a {{Jerkass}}. Especially with the way he reacts to Freddie getting the crap kicked out of him by Sam to force him into a forced, half-hearted apology Lucas didn't even deserve. Then there's the video they shot to announce the fight was over. Why would Freddie volunteer to shoot such a thing? Carly sure, Sam sure, but if I were Freddie, I'd be too justifiably salty towards Lucas to even stay for the shooting, let alone shoot such a thing. I know they haven't had to deal with DMCA's, real world logic, etc, but even shows that run on their own logic, like, say, The Simpsons, still manage to keep the characters realistic, or at least in-character for more than the beginning of the episode. Honestly, what was Dan thinking when he greenlit this idea? I get the want to do it, but 1, couldn't they have picked a better internet personality with staying power passed a few years, & 2, could they not write the episode better? This episode takes the vocal minority of a peripheral demographic, makes the peripheral demographic the main demographic, & turns them from the SilentMajority they would be, & turns be into them into the VocalMinority in terms of their mindset. On top of that, Freddie could easily go to Principal Franklin & tell them about how people are vocally & physically bullying him, even though they'd probably sooner bully him over Facebook, or whatever they have for social media, or their message boards on the site where they have anonymity. I have a feeling He'd he'd care enough to do SOMETHING to help, but knowing the rules of the Schneiderverse, it'd probably sooner backfire somehow than help somehow.help. Freddie's totally in the right for not liking Fred for his reasons though &, after dealing with fans of a famous band's fanbase who don't know how to take criticism, AKA the vocal minority, I'd say he has a right to be angry at Lucas as well as everyone who bullied him. Lucas was the one that got everyone to point their guns at Freddie in the first place, so if anything, Lucas should make a very public, very heartfelt, apology to Freddie to make up for it at the very least. Had this be real life & Lucas still be relevant, Freddie'd make an "exposed" video on him because of the experience. This episode's just illogical, even for Dan Schneider & Nickelodeon, & terrible.
28th Oct '16 5:19:35 PM Scsigs
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* As a showrunner, you have to find a way to keep your show not feeling its age as the years go by. Unless you're purposefully pandering to your demographic. Drake & Josh did that wonderfully. Yeah, due to the technology, & the fact that it's stuck in 4:3 by the nature of being filmed on videotape, so they can't give it a proper HD remastering 1080p & widescreen, you can easily tell it was made from the early-mid 2000s if you didn't already know. Thing is, even with how old Drake & Josh is, it wasn't nearly as gimmicky as iCarly was. iMeet Fred is the most gimmicky episode of the show. The One Direction episode doesn't even touch this one. If any future kid saw this episode, & actually thought Fred was funny, they could look his videos up on YouTube & discover that they were made back in the mid-late 2000s. Plus, Lucas is a complete non-entity in today's media besides being a laughing stock. So, not only is this episode dated as hell, but it's not even a good one. It's not realistic whatsoever. Fred's audience apparently has a PeripheryDemographic of high school kids & other teens? What? What self-respecting teen liked Fred? Fred was, quite literally, the Pewdiepie of the late 2000s. Over the top acting, obnoxious personality, very gimmicky, & only really appeals to children. I know these shows are made for kids, but I thought the main demographic was set higher than 6-year-olds. Then there's the fact that neither Carly, or Sam back Freddie up. Sam I understand, she could give less of a crap most of the time, but Carly? She's supposed to be the voice of reason/compassion out of the 3 to Sam & Freddie's larger personalities that are parts of them, seeing as they're constantly in conflict with another. Maybe she likes Fred, maybe she's the one that brought up promoting him through their show, but she's really not going to back up Freddie's opinion even if she has to play Devil's advocate? Then, we get to Lucas. The conflict set up sees to be, as PIEGUYRULZ put it, based on the AVGN/Nostalgia Critic war from back in the day, but Lucas doesn't email them that that was his plan only for the sake of drama for the show's audience IRL. I don't blame him, since he was still a teenager & he was written to be that way at the time, but he comes off as a {{Jerkass}}. Especially with the way he reacts to Freddie getting the crap kicked out of him by Sam to force him into a forced, half-hearted apology Lucas didn't even deserve. Then there's the video they shot to announce the fight was over. Why would Freddie volunteer to shoot such a think. Carly sure, Sam sure, but if I were Freddie, I'd be too justifiably salty towards Lucas to even stay for the shooting, let alone shoot such a thing. I know they haven't had to deal with DMCA's, real world logic, etc, but even shows that run on their own logic, like, say, The Simpsons, still manage to keep the characters realistic, or at least in-character for more than the beginning of the episode. Honestly, what was Dan thinking when he greenlit this idea? I get the want to do it, but 1, couldn't they have picked a better internet personality with staying power passed a few years, & 2, could they not write the episode better? This episode takes the vocal minority of a peripheral demographic, makes the peripheral demographic the main demographic, turns them from the SilentMajority they would be, & turns them into the VocalMinority in terms of their mindset. On top of that, Freddie could easily go to Principal Franklin & tell them about how people are vocally & physically bullying him, even though they'd probably sooner bully him over Facebook, or whatever they have for social media, or their message boards on the site where they have anonymity. I have a feeling He'd care enough to do SOMETHING to help, but knowing the rules of the Schneiderverse, it'd probably sooner backfire than help somehow. Freddie's totally in the right for not liking Fred for his reasons though &, after dealing with fans of a famous band's fanbase who don't know how to take criticism, AKA the vocal minority, I'd say he has a right to be angry at Lucas as well as everyone who bullied him. Lucas was the one that got everyone to point their guns at Freddie in the first place, so if anything, Lucas should make a very public, very heartfelt, apology to Freddie to make up for it at the very least. Had this be real life & Lucas still be relevant, Freddie'd make an "exposed" video on him because of the experience. This episode's just illogical, even for Dan Schneider & Nickelodeon, & terrible.

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* As a showrunner, you have to find a way to keep your show not feeling its age as the years go by. Unless you're purposefully pandering to your demographic. Drake & Josh did that wonderfully. Yeah, due to the technology, & the fact that it's stuck in 4:3 by the nature of being filmed on videotape, so they can't give it a proper HD remastering 1080p & widescreen, you can easily tell it was made from the early-mid 2000s if you didn't already know. Thing is, even with how old Drake & Josh is, it wasn't nearly as gimmicky as iCarly was. iMeet Fred is the most gimmicky episode of the show. The One Direction episode doesn't even touch this one. If any future kid saw this episode, & actually thought Fred was funny, they could look his videos up on YouTube & discover that they were made back in the mid-late 2000s. Plus, Lucas is a complete non-entity in today's media besides being a laughing stock. So, not only is this episode dated as hell, but it's not even a good one. It's not realistic whatsoever. Fred's audience apparently has a PeripheryDemographic of high school kids & other teens? What? What self-respecting teen liked Fred? Fred was, quite literally, the Pewdiepie of the late 2000s. Over the top acting, obnoxious personality, very gimmicky, & only really appeals to children. I know these shows are made for kids, but I thought the main demographic was set higher than 6-year-olds. Then there's the fact that neither Carly, or Sam back Freddie up. Sam I understand, she could give less of a crap most of the time, but Carly? She's supposed to be the voice of reason/compassion out of the 3 to Sam & Freddie's larger personalities that are parts of them, seeing as they're constantly in conflict with another. Maybe she likes Fred, maybe she's the one that brought up promoting him through their show, but she's really not going to back up Freddie's opinion even if she has to play Devil's advocate? Then, we get to Lucas. The conflict set up sees to be, as PIEGUYRULZ put it, based on the AVGN/Nostalgia Critic war from back in the day, but Lucas doesn't email them that that was his plan only for the sake of drama for the show's audience IRL. I don't blame him, since he was still a teenager & he was written to be that way at the time, but he comes off as a {{Jerkass}}. Especially with the way he reacts to Freddie getting the crap kicked out of him by Sam to force him into a forced, half-hearted apology Lucas didn't even deserve. Then there's the video they shot to announce the fight was over. Why would Freddie volunteer to shoot such a think. thing? Carly sure, Sam sure, but if I were Freddie, I'd be too justifiably salty towards Lucas to even stay for the shooting, let alone shoot such a thing. I know they haven't had to deal with DMCA's, real world logic, etc, but even shows that run on their own logic, like, say, The Simpsons, still manage to keep the characters realistic, or at least in-character for more than the beginning of the episode. Honestly, what was Dan thinking when he greenlit this idea? I get the want to do it, but 1, couldn't they have picked a better internet personality with staying power passed a few years, & 2, could they not write the episode better? This episode takes the vocal minority of a peripheral demographic, makes the peripheral demographic the main demographic, turns them from the SilentMajority they would be, & turns them into the VocalMinority in terms of their mindset. On top of that, Freddie could easily go to Principal Franklin & tell them about how people are vocally & physically bullying him, even though they'd probably sooner bully him over Facebook, or whatever they have for social media, or their message boards on the site where they have anonymity. I have a feeling He'd care enough to do SOMETHING to help, but knowing the rules of the Schneiderverse, it'd probably sooner backfire than help somehow. Freddie's totally in the right for not liking Fred for his reasons though &, after dealing with fans of a famous band's fanbase who don't know how to take criticism, AKA the vocal minority, I'd say he has a right to be angry at Lucas as well as everyone who bullied him. Lucas was the one that got everyone to point their guns at Freddie in the first place, so if anything, Lucas should make a very public, very heartfelt, apology to Freddie to make up for it at the very least. Had this be real life & Lucas still be relevant, Freddie'd make an "exposed" video on him because of the experience. This episode's just illogical, even for Dan Schneider & Nickelodeon, & terrible.
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