History Headscratchers / CodeGeassMiscellaneousOne

* Just one question: Did lelouch die? In the Japanese version of the show, we were able to see lelouch himself riding the horse carriage C.C. was on, while the american version hid his face.

** She changed her haircut, clothes, and apparently spent that time trekking through wastelands in the Chinese Federation, where there aren't many people in the first place, they are Chinese, and they most probably wouldn't care even if they did recognize her. A better question would be what took her so long. How long was she absent by the time R2 begins?

* In R2, how is it that nobody found Cornelia for the first 1/2 of the season? Surely ''someone'' would reconize a princess of the largest empire in the world.

* Episode 18 of R2. [[DisContinuity 'Nuff said]].

** Because he didn't. What he did, as shown earlier in the episode, was place a mine under the water tethered to the seafloor. Then he pressed a button to release it when the tanker passed over.

** With regards to Carine being 'ahead of Lelouch' despite being younger: do we actually know she was fifth prince at the time of Marianne's assassination? Because if not, it's entirely plausible that she WAS behind Lelouch (and Nunnally if she's slightly younger), but that Marianne and her children are far from the most recent people to have left the running for the royal succession for one reason or another. And Nunnally's low ranking when she returns to become viceroy may be because she was formally disinherited along with her brother before, knocking her right down to the bottom of the pack upon her reinstatement. That's assuming the numbering system is strictly by birth, and doesn't have other elements mixed in, as was suggested above.

** With regards to Carine being 'ahead of Lelouch' despite being younger: do we actually know she was fifth prince at the time of Marianne's assassination? Because if not, it's entirely plausible that she WAS behind Lelouch (and Nunnally if she's slightly younger), but that Marianne and her children are from the most recent people to have left the running for the royal succession for one reason or another. And Nunnally's low ranking when she returns to become viceroy may be because she was formally disinherited along with her brother before, knocking her right down to the bottom of the pack upon her reinstatement. That's assuming the numbering system is strictly by birth, and doesn't have other elements mixed in, as was suggested above.

* In episode 13 of R1, how exactly did Lelouch manage to mount a remotely controlled explosive to the JLF's tankard? Maybe I missed something, but it seemed a smidge too convenient that he was able to just flip a switch and blow the whole thing skyhigh like that.

** By comparison, in NightmareOfNunnally, [[spoiler:Euphemia]] takes the throne and gives the numbered areas their freedom. There is a considerable amount of transition, and Britannia has to deal with being the object of the world's hatred, but it's a more sensible alternative to this.

** That might work if politics wasn't so damn integral to the show. Lord knows the giant robot fighting got the back burner as the show went on. But getting that major of an aspect wrong is something I can't just ignore.
*** Lelouch spent much of the first half of season 2 setting up an alternative power structure, the United Federation of Nations, which he left in place after the final battle, and probably strengthened during the two months between it and his assassination. I think the problem is that the last five or so episodes are all very rushed, with a couple of month or two long timeskips that could do with being expanded on.
*** This. With heavy emphasis. I figured that Lelouch sarcastically acquiesced to Kaguya's demand that he split Brittania up into individual voting "states" once he has control of the Damocles. This was the only barrier that the UFN put up before Brittania could be allowed to join, and once he has the FLEIJAs, it's not like he's going to have any trouble getting the votes he needs anyway, not when anyone who would try to vote against him would be running the risk of getting nuked off the face of the planet. At the end of the series he is declared, as I recall, to be President of the UFN and CEO of the Black Knights. If he sucked most of Britannia's power into the UFN, then that means that the Brittanian military and the Black Knights are more or less the same thing, and are controlled by whoever has the most votes in the UFN- and whoever has the most votes in the UN will require the support of a great many different ethnic groups, since presumably every country in the world is now a member. And nobody's in the mood for more oppressive asshattery after what Emperor Lelouch did. If he ordered all his soldiers to be members of the Black Knights, well, they're geassed, so that's what they'll do even if the CEO isn't the Emperor of Brittania. Even if that fails the only heirs apparent to the Brittanian throne would be Nunnally, Schneizel, and Cornelia, since they made the heroic LastStand against Lelouch and at least two out of the three of them are going to try and preserve peace at all cost. This is the whole reason why Lelouch made such a big deal about taking over the UFN instead of destroying it. The UFN's charter is presumably designed in such a way that there's no way to mobilize a military force against anyone except an extremely evil common enemy. The only reason it was bad under Emperor Lelouch is because he was blackmailing everyone into voting to do whatever he wanted. By giving the individual countries free will, his death created an insurmountable bureaucratic deadlock.
*** By comparison, in NightmareOfNunnally, [[spoiler:Euphemia]] takes the throne and gives the numbered areas their freedom. There is a considerable amount of transition, and Britannia has to deal with being the object of the world's hatred, but it's a more sensible alternative to this.

*** Guilford was Japanese? You must have been watching a different show. And the Japanese were essentially treated like second-class citizens, even Honorary Britannians. And that Cornelia did try to evacuate areas they were planning on attacking was no excuse for the atrocities she made.

*** --> Even if 6 never came up in the conversation, some Black Knights leaders involved in turning on Zero had recently found out about it. Asahina and Chiba definitely knew and were not happy about it.

*** Even if 6 never came up in the conversation, at least one Black Knights leader involved in turning on Zero had recently found out about it.
*** It's beside the point. Even if he knew about it, he chose not to act on it. Frankly, I think that makes Tohdoh one of the more reasonable ones. I can only assume he either intended to question Zero directly or planned to bring it up in a meeting with the entire staff.

*** --> Even if 6 never came up in the conversation, at least one Black Knights leader involved in turning on Zero had recently found out about it.

###Their leader was acheiving the "results" he always bragged about with a supernatural power.

###Their leader committed a ''massacre'' at the Geass Directorate.

*** --> What inaccurate testimony did Ohgi give against Lelouch? Anyway, people like Xing-Ke could have led the fight against Britannia, and Ohgi didn't say that he was going to leave the Black Knights (which worked for the UFN at that point) if Japan was freed, so there isn't really much evidence that they were leaving the rest of the UFN out to dry - other than the dangerous move of privately killing the best strategist and rallying figure on the UFN side.
* The Black Knights after chapter 19 of R2 ''Hey, let's totally dismiss the guy who has helped us to become a real threat for the britannian empire, who has given us hope. Oh, and let's join the Britannian prince, our major enemy in the past, for no reason. '' To summarize:\\
--[[MsFanservice Kallen]]: Lelouch, I don't like this, but I'll have to kill you because... I dunno, guess I prefer blondes (Gino, Schneizel...) nevermind that I was your most loyal soldier and we had lots and lots of UnresolvedSexualTension. \\
--[[DistractedByTheSexy Ohgi]]: zOMG TITS!!1one Oh, yeah, I'll join you, Viletta.\\
--[[ChronicBackstabbingDisorder Diethard]]: Everything is more interesting with the rebels. Therefore I'll join with Schneizel.\\
--[[TrueNeutral Rakshata]]: Meh, I'm happy making mecha.\\
--[[ChewToy Tamaki]]: WOAH WTF IS THIS GUY GOOD OR BAD?! I JUST WANNA FIGHT DAMMIT!\\
--[[TallDarkAndHandsome XingKe]]: If I joined Lelouch, the Tian Zi could be safer. But I'm gonna be the hero and rescue her!

** Let's review ''why'' the Black Knights turned on Zero. They had just found out that (in approximately increasing order of severity): 1. Their leader is a Britannian (they knew he wasn't Japanese, but they didn't know that.) 2. Their leader is a teenager. 3. Their leader is a PRINCE of Britannia. 4. Their leader was acheiving the "results" he always bragged about with a supernatural power. 5. Their leader was using them as pawns for goals he didn't tell them about. 6. Their leader committed a ''massacre'' at the Geass Directorate. 7. He used this supernatural power on allies. 8. He used that power on people Tohdoh used to work with/for... 9. In order to kill them. 10. ''He ordered [[spoiler: Euphemia's massacre]]!'' (They didn't know that it was an accident, they just knew that he truthfully admitted that his hubris and desire to get people to be on his side and against the Empire caused it.)

** Let's review ''why'' the Black Knights turned on Zero. They had just found out that (in approximately increasing order of severity):
1. Their leader is a Britannian (they knew he wasn't Japanese, but they didn't know that.)
2. Their leader is a teenager.
3. Their leader is a PRINCE of Britannia.
4. Their leader was acheiving the "results" he always bragged about with a supernatural power.
5. Their leader was using them as pawns for goals he didn't tell them about.
6. Their leader committed a MASSACRE at the Geass Directorate.
7. He used this supernatural power on allies.
8. He used that power on people Tohdoh used to work with/for...
9. In order to kill them.
10. HE ORDERED [[spoiler: EUPHEMIA'S MASSACRE]]! (They didn't know that it was an accident, they just know that he truthfully admitted that his hubris and desire to get people on his side and against the Empire's caused it.)

*** By comparison, in NightmareOfNunnally, [[spoiler:Euphemia]] takes the throne and gives the numbered areas their freedom. There is a considerable amount of transition, and Britannia has to deal with being the object of the world's hatred, but it's a more sensible alternative to this.