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*** Cunning as he is, Michael was not quite balanced by that point, and I think that shows in how he deals with every other threat in very heavyhanded ways: Rocco has to kill Roth out in the open inside an airport (which leads to his death), he not-so-subtly threatens Pentangeli's family (IN FRONT OF THE SUPREME COURT AT THAT) and then has Tom tell Frank to kill himself to keep them safe, and has [[ImplacableMan ''Al Neri'']] kill Fredo [[TheresNoKillLikeOverkill (the equivalent of using a tactical nuke to shoot a fish in a barrel).]]

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*** Cunning as he is, Michael was not quite balanced by that point, and I think that shows in how he deals with every other threat in very heavyhanded ways: [[SuicideMission Rocco has to kill Roth out in the open inside an airport (which leads to his death), death),]] [[RefugeInAudacity he not-so-subtly threatens Pentangeli's family (IN FRONT OF THE SUPREME COURT AT THAT) and then has Tom basically tell Frank to kill himself to keep them safe, safe,]] and has [[ImplacableMan ''Al Neri'']] ''[[ImplacableMan Al Neri]]'' kill Fredo [[TheresNoKillLikeOverkill (the equivalent of using a tactical nuke to shoot a fish in a barrel).]]
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** It was a combination of all the factors above, basically. You have to consider Michael's emotional state by that point. At that moment, Fredo had betrayed him and shown his resentment, his wife left him AFTER revealing she aborted their baby as a petty TakeThat against him, their mother just passed away, he was being accused before the supreme court by the FBI (who had Pentangeli as a witness) and he was having problems finishing a fugitive Hyman Roth off. Fredo tried to apologize and redeem himself when their mother passed, but Michael was already past his RageBreakingPoint and ready to go on a RoaringRampageOfRevenge against all his enemies... real or imagined. Killing Fredo was a DisproportionateRetribution snap decision among his other more grounded decisions, [[RevengeBeforeReason done more out of emotional spite than rational thought]] (and it inevitably haunts him and his family by the time of the third movie). Hell, he very nearly threatened to expel Tom Hagen from the family when Tom was just trying to discuss their options calmly.
*** Cunning as he is, Michael was not quite balanced by that point, and I think that shows in how he deals with every other threat in very heavyhanded ways: Rocco has to kill Roth out in the open inside an airport (which leads to his death), he not-so-subtly threatens Pentangeli's family (IN FRONT OF THE SUPREME COURT AT THAT) and then has Tom tell Frank to kill himself to keep them safe, and has [[ImplacableMan ''Al Neri'']] kill Fredo [[TheresNoKillLikeOverkill (the equivalent of using a tactical nuke to shoot a fish in a barrel).]]
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** Going from the novel material, [[TragicVillain Luca Brasi]] [[FreudianExcuse didn't have a very happy life.]] He was raised by [[TheAlcoholic drunken]] AbusiveParents and [[SelfMadeOrphan had to kill said abusive father who nearly killed his pregnant mother]] due to her having an affair with the neighbor (who Luca also killed, cause HonorBeforeReason), and that was all ''before'' getting involved with TheMafia. Vito himself identified Luca as a self-hating DeathSeeker, and Luca even tried killing himself in prison after killing his own child (which also caused him some brain damage, which is another reason he talks slow and rehearses what wants to say). So, getting openly invited to [[MafiaPrincess Connie's]] wedding by TheDon himself? [[PetTheDog It's basically the nicest thing anyone has ever done for Luca Brasi in his life.]] Luca had UndyingLoyalty and HeroWorship for Vito [[BecauseYouWereNiceToMe because he was the only one who treated him like a human being.]]
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** Also, when Michael returned from the toilet, he's basically tuning Solozzo out since he doesn't care what Sollozzo has to say. Also, the way the scene is framed and the sound gets faded, Michael is essentially entering Tranquil Fury mode, remembering what Sollozzo did to his father & family while also trying not to show it. He essentially psyching himself up and entering (Anti) HeroicSafeMode to pull the trigger; you could compare that to ''Film/KillBill's'' Beatrix Kiddo hearing ''Series/Ironside1967'' sirens when she's sees her targets.

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** Also, when When Michael returned from the toilet, he's basically tuning Solozzo out since he doesn't care what Sollozzo has to say. say, cause he already knows it's all lies and excuses that change nothing. Also, the way the scene is framed and the sound gets faded, Michael is essentially entering Tranquil Fury mode, remembering what Sollozzo did to his father & family and knowing he'll have to run away to Sicily after killing the bastard, while also trying not to show it.any it and risk giving his homicidal intentions away. He essentially psyching himself up and entering (Anti) HeroicSafeMode to pull the trigger; you could compare that to ''Film/KillBill's'' Beatrix Kiddo hearing ''Series/Ironside1967'' sirens when she's sees her targets.
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** Also, when Michael returned from the toilet, he's basically tuning Solozzo out since he doesn't care what Sollozzo has to say. Also, the way the scene is framed and the sound gets faded, Michael is essentially entering Tranquil Fury mode, remembering what Sollozzo did to his father & family while also trying not to show it. He essentially psyching himself up and entering (Anti) HeroicSafeMode to pull the trigger; you could compare that to ''Film/KillBil's'' Beatrix Kiddo hearing ''Series/Ironside1967'' sirens when she's sees her targets.

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** Also, when Michael returned from the toilet, he's basically tuning Solozzo out since he doesn't care what Sollozzo has to say. Also, the way the scene is framed and the sound gets faded, Michael is essentially entering Tranquil Fury mode, remembering what Sollozzo did to his father & family while also trying not to show it. He essentially psyching himself up and entering (Anti) HeroicSafeMode to pull the trigger; you could compare that to ''Film/KillBil's'' ''Film/KillBill's'' Beatrix Kiddo hearing ''Series/Ironside1967'' sirens when she's sees her targets.
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** Also, when Michael returned from the toilet, he's basically tuning Solozzo out since he doesn't care what Sollozzo has to say. Also, the way the scene is framed and the sound gets faded, Michael is essentially entering Tranquil Fury mode, remembering what Sollozzo did to his father & family while also trying not to show it. He essentially psyching himself up and entering (Anti) HeroicSafeMode to pull the trigger; you could compare that to ''Film/KillBil's'' Beatrix Kiddo hearing ''Series/Ironside1967'' sirens when she's sees her targets.
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*** The reason it was Tessio's men was because Clemenza was under suspicion. Paulie was the usual bodyguard and Clemenza protégé, and he was out "sick". The big question for the family was if Paulie had acted on his own, or if Clemenza had been behind the attempt. The novel makes it clear the family was sweating buckets over it possibly being Clemenza and were relieved when they confirmed he was loyal and Paulie was the rat. In the meantime, they took no chances; Tessio's men provided security. The rest is pretty much a straight game; Tessio's men were chased by the police to orchestrate a second hit. Tessio himself only turned years later.
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** The Godfather wiki mentions him only as a high--ranking member of the Tattaglia Family.

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** The Godfather wiki mentions him only as a high--ranking member of the Tataglia Family.

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** The Godfather wiki mentions him only as a high--ranking member of the Tataglia Family.
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*** Not just that, but it was all but stated that Michael was paying FAR MORE than the shares he was actually receiving were worth, by paying down their debt with no actual assets in return other than control. He's explicitly buying control of the company, and they're planning to steal literally hundreds of millions of dollars from him and give him nothing.
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** The political power is Vito's, but if Vito is removed, then others such as Barzini, will be able to move in. As long as Vito is alive the politicians/judges will stay loyal to Vito, but there's no loyalty to a dead man. None of them are loyal to Sonny. Cutting Vito's strings and replacing them with Barzini's is an acceptable outcome. The plan would work much BETTER using Vito's already established and strong connections, but it's still workable as long as Vito himself is removed and they can bribe/threaten/cajole the politicians/judges.
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** That's also the entire point of the affair, spelled out more explicitly in the book. It ''shouldn't'' have been possible. Woltz had security, they were all working that night, nobody turned up dead or missing the next day or "coincidentally" called out sick, and yet they all swear they saw and heard nothing. This means that either the Corleone muscle was good enough to outmaneuver all of them, or they managed to corrupt enough of them to betray a man like Woltz and still be able to face him the next day woth a straight face. Either way it's a clear show of power, and why Woltz gives in.

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** That's also the entire point of the affair, spelled out more explicitly in the book. It ''shouldn't'' have been possible. Woltz had security, they were all working that night, nobody turned up dead or missing the next day or "coincidentally" called out sick, and yet they all swear they saw and heard nothing. This means that either the Corleone muscle was good enough to outmaneuver all of them, or they managed to corrupt enough of them to betray a man like Woltz and still be able to face him the next day woth with a straight face. Either way it's a clear show of power, and why Woltz gives in.
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* Perhaps there’s a specific trope for this. But does it seem like the five Children (including Tom) are each a part of Vito’s personality and character arc? Sonny is his aggressive side, Tom is pragmatic side, Fredo is his sweet and caring side, Michael is his cunning side, and Connie went from meek nobody to respected leader.
* Perhaps there’s a trope for this as well. But do the deaths of Vito, Sonny, Fredo, and Michael all seem very appropriate: Vito dies fairly peacefully while having a happy moment with a loved one. Sonny dies a ridiculously violent death, Fredo dies meekly and pathetically. Michael dies alone.

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* Perhaps there’s a specific trope for this. But does it seem like the five Children (including Tom) are each a part of Vito’s personality and character arc? Sonny is his aggressive side, Tom is pragmatic side, Fredo is his sweet and caring side, Michael is his cunning side, and Connie went from meek nobody to respected leader.
* Perhaps there’s a trope for this as well. But do the deaths of Vito, Sonny, Fredo, and Michael all seem very appropriate: Vito dies fairly peacefully while having a happy moment with a loved one. Sonny dies a ridiculously violent death, Fredo dies meekly and pathetically. Michael dies alone.
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** It’s shown in Part II that Fredo had pneumonia as an infant. At the time that could’ve caused developmental delays. Notice that before he gets sent to Vegas we see him being nothing but a sweet caring person; being happy to see his little brother at Connie’s wedding, crying like a baby when his father is shot, sitting at Vito’s side when he comes home. Even the flashback at the end of Part II shows he was the only one who was supportive of Michael’s decision to join the military to fight in WWII. In short he was a very caring and trusting person who was easily taken advantage of and manipulated.

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** It’s **It’s shown in Part II that Fredo had pneumonia as an infant. At the time that That could’ve caused developmental delays. delays, especially to a person born into poverty in a tenement in the 1920’s. Notice that before he gets sent to Vegas whenever he’s around just his family we see him being nothing but a sweet caring person; being happy to see his little brother at Connie’s wedding, crying like a baby when his father is shot, sitting at Vito’s side when he comes home. Even the flashback at the end of Part II shows he was the only one who was supportive of Michael’s decision home, finding joy in having a drink with his little brother in Havana, excited about going fishing with his nephew, etc. But when he’s away he’s a completely different person; setting up a party in Las Vegas for Michael, taking a group to join the military to fight see Superman in WWII. In short he was Havana, etc. So it actually makes him a very caring and trusting person who was interesting character. Who is the real Fredo? Is he just easily taken advantage manipulated? Or is he truly envious of and manipulated.Michael?
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** It’s shown in Part II that Fredo had pneumonia as an infant. At the time that could’ve caused developmental delays. Notice that before he gets sent to Vegas we see him being nothing but a sweet caring person; being happy to see his little brother at Connie’s wedding, crying like a baby when his father is shot, sitting at Vito’s side when he comes home. Even the flashback at the end of Part II shows he was the only one who was supportive of Michael’s decision to join the military to fight in WWII. In short he was a very caring and trusting person who was easily taken advantage of and manipulated.
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*** One of the defining characteristics of Vito is that he’s very cunning and often several steps ahead of everyone else. He gains this ability by simply observing what’s going on around him and listening to everyone. However in the early part of the 1900’s being quiet could be interpreted as being stupid.
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** Bear in mind that when he was child Vito had his father, brother, and mother all murdered by a traditional mafia Don. It’s reasonable to say he doesn’t really love the old traditions.
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* Why did Don Vito send Luca Brasi, his top enforcer on such a weak and shallow infiltration assignment that anyone with common sense would have seen right through? Did Vito actually expect them to believe that the fiercely loyal Luca Brasi was looking to defect? He sent Luca on what was basically a suicide mission. Was he TRYING to get Luca killed, or was Vito really just slipping with this poorly thought out plan? I don't think the plan would have worked no matter WHO he sent, but they could have at least tried it with someone more subtle and lesser known than Luca.
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** Favoring Carlo and showing his close ties in public also contributes to the image of the helpless, clueless Don that Michael wants to project at that point. An image that makes his enemies underestimate him and uncovers traitors like Tessio.

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** Favoring Carlo and showing his close ties in public public, when, according to Connie, everyone blamed him for Sonny's death, also contributes to the image of the helpless, clueless Don that Michael wants to project at that point. An image that makes his enemies underestimate him and uncovers traitors like Tessio.
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*** Making any deal presents an unacceptable risk because McCluskey is already dirty sellout, and there's nothing to stop [=McCluskey=] from pretending to accept a deal from Michael and then selling him out to Tattaglia or Barzini and arresting Michael the next day.

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*** Making any deal presents an unacceptable risk because McCluskey [=McCluskey=] is already dirty sellout, and there's nothing to stop [=McCluskey=] from pretending to accept a deal from Michael and then selling him out to Tattaglia or Barzini and arresting Michael the next day.
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*** Making any deal presents an unacceptable risk because McCluskey is already dirty sellout, and there's nothing to stop McCluskey from pretending to accept a deal from Michael and then selling him out to Tattaglia or Barzini and arresting Michael the next day.

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*** Making any deal presents an unacceptable risk because McCluskey is already dirty sellout, and there's nothing to stop McCluskey stop [=McCluskey=] from pretending to accept a deal from Michael and then selling him out to Tattaglia or Barzini and arresting Michael the next day.
*** Michael was a decorated Marine who'd seen a considerable amount of combat. He's trained to eliminate the enemy. ''All'' of the enemy. Also, seeing as how [=McCluskey=] was a racist piece of shit who ''broke his jaw'', Michael would understandably be out for some serious payback.
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*** Making any deal presents an unacceptable risk because McCluskey is already dirty sellout, and there's nothing to stop McCluskey from pretending to accept a deal from Michael and then selling him out to Tattaglia or Barzini and arresting Michael the next day.
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** For the former, the Mafia is a very honor and tradition-bound society (for their given values of honor, of course). Even if Ciccio has made up his mind, it would be considered pretty uncouth to not allow his future victim's mother a moment to plead her case to him and not at least offer the pretense of being willing to consider it. It seemingly costs him nothing and gives him the appearance of being a reasonable and gracious man rather than just a petty thug. For the latter, this probably mostly goes down to RuleOfDrama (it's more dramatically powerful a moment for Vito to witness his mother's murder, gives him a stronger personal motive for swearing vengeance on the man responsible rather than him to just hear about it second hand, and is more exciting to have to watch him escape from the mobsters rather than get the opportunity to slip away because he wasn't there), though presumably his mother thought the argument of "Don't kill my son, he's too weak and timid to be a threat to you" would be more convincing if said weak and timid kid there next to her was in front of Ciccio looking pathetic and helpless.
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** Sollozzo starts off by saying "I have a great respect for your father. But your father thinks old-fashioned!" When Michael returns from the toilet, the actor playing Sollozzo is literally speaking Italian-sounding gibberish.
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* Why did Ciccio bother listening to Vito's mother when she came to his mansion to plead for her son's life? Clearly he had already made up his mind he was going to kill Vito. So why not just shoot him the moment she and Vito showed up? Also, speaking of that, why did Vito's mother bring Vito with her when she went to Ciccio's mansion. She knew Ciccio was planning to kill Vito, and she had to know it was very unlikely he could change his mind. It would have made far more sense to leave Vito at home when she went to talk to Ciccio, with instructions to flee the country if she doesn't come back.

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* Why did Ciccio bother listening to Vito's mother when she came to his mansion to plead for her son's life? Clearly he had already made up his mind he was going to kill Vito. So why not just shoot him the moment she and Vito showed up? Also, speaking of that, why did Vito's mother bring Vito with her when she went to Ciccio's mansion. mansion? She knew Ciccio was planning to kill Vito, and she had to know it was very unlikely he she could change his mind. It would have made far more sense to leave Vito at home when she went to talk to Ciccio, with instructions to flee the country if she doesn't come back.
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* Why did Ciccio bother listening to Vito's mother when she came to his mansion to plead for her son's life? Clearly he had already made up his mind he was going to kill Vito. So why not just shoot him the moment she and Vito showed up? Also, speaking of that, why did Vito's mother bring Vito with her when she went to Ciccio's mansion. She knew Ciccio was planning to kill Vito, and she had to know it was very unlikely he could change his mind. It would have made far more sense to leave Vito at home when she went to talk to Ciccio, with instructions to flee the country if she doesn't come back.
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*** Fredo didn't have to be killed because he had unwittingly helped Roth try to kill Michael. What sealed Fredo's fate was when he screamed about having been stepped over for the position of head of the Family by his little brother, revealing just how much he resented Michael's ascension. Brother or not, Michael simply couldn't keep someone around who is that resentful. Fredo has a good heart, but simple jealousy could have easily clouded Fredo's judgment in the future. Even if Fredo didn't mean to undermine Michael, he still did so and his resentment (not to mention his already troubling history of taking sides against the Family) made him an absolute liability.

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