History Fridge / Redwall

* The only witnesses to Brother Hal's death were Dingeye and Thura, who fled and died soon after, missing their chance to tell the truth to the Abbeydwellers. Samkim and Arula likely went their whole lives thinking the {{Adorkable}} stoats they'd been befriending had intentionally murdered an Abbey mouse.

*** "The overhanging willows acted like an enveloping canopy, catching the smoke and holding it as it grew more dense." It was a crude gas chamber. They have a chance, but there's no way they're all making it out of there alive.

** They are outside in the open air at the time, they have a chance. Still not good for them.

* ''The Sable Quean'', sees the reappearance of the Flitcheye. Rather than killing them, the protagonists decide to take all the Flitcheye, tie them up in a grove, and burn piles of their own sedative herbs all around said grove. Then, they cheerfully continue on with their adventure. The idea is supposed to be "teehee, now you'll all wake up with killer headaches, that'll show you"...the characters don't seem to realize that administering massive doses of a sedative and then walking away is a surefire way to kill someone.

* In ''Mariel of Redwall'', Saltar and Ledder do ''something'' to Mariel that's so traumatizing that she can't even say what it is without freaking out. [[RapeAsDrama Just what the hell was the author trying to imply?]] [[{{Lolicon}} Also, her exact age isn't given but most of the heroes of these books are about twelve or thirteen, and this part takes place a season or two before she shows up at the abbey.]] The sentence before her freakout suggests the terrifying thing was actually the searats throwing her friends overboard, but...

* In ''Mariel of Redwall'', Saltar and Ledder do ''something'' to Mariel that's so traumatizing that she can't even say what it is without freaking out. [[RapeAsDrama Just what the hell was the author trying to imply?]] [[{{Lolicon}} Also, her exact age isn't given but most of the heroes of these books are about twelve or thirteen, and this part takes place a season or two before she shows up at the abbey.]]

** There is a reference to plant-based milk at least once. I think it's called greensap milk or something such. Not very well versed on the art of cheesemaking but there are several kinds of plant-based milk you can buy and it may be possible to use it to make cheese, even if it is not like most cheeses we'd know.

* In ''Mariel of Redwall'', Saltar and Ledder do ''something'' to Mariel that's so traumatizing that she can't even say what it is without freaking out. [[RapeAsDrama Just what the hell was the author trying to imply?]]

**** You're trying to say that you know possible outcomes better that a character who explicitly sees the future. [[spoiler: Saro and Bragoon are not invincible.]] Without the prophecy, they could have been just killed by Raga Bol's gang, and reliance on them could have caused Redwallers to botch the defense. That's assuming that Martin can actually ''change'' and ''choose'' the future. The more precise prophecies in a particular world are, [[FridgeHorror the more frightening implications regarding the existence of free will they carry]]. And Redwall has rather precise prophecies. Martin might act in a certain way because he already knows he'll act in a cerrain way, and some instances when he undertakes clearly fruitless action (like trying to scare off Cluny or Razzid) might be seen as confirming that.

*** [[BrokenAesop No, it doesn't]]. If all this is true, then that means that [[spoiler:Martin the Warrior's spirit knew that Raga Bol and Badredd would attack Redwall. Which means he intentionally had Bragoon and Saro sent away ''just so they could invade Redwall''. Which means Martin knew that Bragoon and Saro were probably be going on a SuicideMission (which turned out to be true). Which means that if they had just stayed at Redwall, Junty the Cellarhog and several other Redwallers might have lived and Raga Bol and Badredd would not have invaded Redwall, or at the very least, got so far inside Redwall.]] Overall, the lives of dozens of Redwallers apparently isn't as important as [[spoiler:making a single wheelchair-bound hare magically walk again due to an intense amount of stress and adrenaline]]. [[FridgeHorror Do you see how fucked up that is?]]

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* In ''Mariel of Redwall''. What the hell were the searats ''doing'' to Mariel offscreen? And wasn't she, like, twelve at the time? Argh!
** [[TwoWordsObviousTrope Two Words:]] [[ExoticEquipment cornified]] [[NightmareFuel papillae.]] [[BrainBleach You're welcome.]]

** [[ItGotWorse It Gets Worse.]] [[TwoWordsObviousTrope Two Words:]] [[ExoticEquipment cornified]] [[NightmareFuel papillae.]] [[BrainBleach You're welcome.]]

** [[ItGotWorse It Gets Worse.]] [[TwoWordsObviousTrope Two Words:]] [[ExoticEquipment cornified]] [[NightmareFuel papillae.]] [[BrainBleach You're]] [[RuinedForEver welcome.]]

** [[ItGotWorse It Gets Worse.]] [[TwoWordsObviousTrope Two Words:]] [[ExoticEquipment cornified]] [[HighOctaneNightmareFuel papillae.]] [[BrainBleach You're]] [[RuinedForEver welcome.]]

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* ''Mariel of {{Redwall}}''; during Mariel's flashback scene, she starts screaming and thrashing and begging the hallucinatory pirates to stop. The context of the sentence suggests they were probably killing her friends, which is bad but [[WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids pretty par for the course in these books]]. This female troper hit puberty and thought "[[RapeAsDrama Waitaminute ...]]"

* What the hell were the searats ''doing'' to Mariel offscreen? And wasn't she, like, twelve at the time? Argh!
* [[ItGotWorse It Gets Worse.]] [[TwoWordsObviousTrope Two Words:]] [[ExoticEquipment cornified]] [[HighOctaneNightmareFuel papillae.]] [[BrainBleach You're]] [[RuinedForEver welcome.]]

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