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*** Then again, [[spoiler:they're {{EldritchAbomination}}s. Maybe, [[WeaksauceWeakness being put into stasis isn't good for them]]]].them]].
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!!FridgeBrilliance
* Dalek Caan and Davros escaping the Time War seems a lot less contrived after TheReveal.
* The War Doctor's TARDIS control room is smaller in design compared to later versions. As the War Doctor, he wasn't accepting any companions.
** It also has the old-style walls with the "circle things" BUT augmented with Nine's curved columns. Since the exterior of the Tardis shows some battle damage, it's implied that the War Doctor started out with the traditional control room, but the Tardis suffered enough damage in the Time War to need that kind of reinforcement (and only "healed" it when it got a full revamp in "The Eleventh Hour.")
** Its actually suggested in-episode that its the ''same'' control room as Nine and Tens, but a hundred years newer. The console looks very similar; the main difference is its shinier. Also, the walls in Nine's/Ten's TARDIS could just be what's behind the Round Things, like with suspended ceiling tiles.
* Dalek Caan and Davros escaping the Time War seems a lot less contrived after TheReveal.
* The War Doctor's TARDIS control room is smaller in design compared to later versions. As the War Doctor, he wasn't accepting any companions.
** It also has the old-style walls with the "circle things" BUT augmented with Nine's curved columns. Since the exterior of the Tardis shows some battle damage, it's implied that the War Doctor started out with the traditional control room, but the Tardis suffered enough damage in the Time War to need that kind of reinforcement (and only "healed" it when it got a full revamp in "The Eleventh Hour.")
** Its actually suggested in-episode that its the ''same'' control room as Nine and Tens, but a hundred years newer. The console looks very similar; the main difference is its shinier. Also, the walls in Nine's/Ten's TARDIS could just be what's behind the Round Things, like with suspended ceiling tiles.
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* If [[spoiler:Gallifrey wasn't destroyed]], then how and why [[spoiler:did the events of Recap/DoctorWhoNSS4E17E18TheEndOfTime come to happen]]? [[spoiler:The first part of Rassilon's plan was to get out of the time lock which, as shown by this episode, never existed]].
** Note that the high council was offscreen the entire time, only showing military command, and that Rassilon noted that his action in The End of Time were the last day of the war. From Galifrey's perspective, the two episodes were probably concurrent, and [[spoiler: his seers were mistaking being sealed in single moment for a time lock]].
** That makes sense. Maybe the Doctors intentionally [[spoiler:didn't inform Rassilon himself of their plan]]. Doing so would have changed established events in their own timeline.
*** This troper thought that the time lock was there from the start of the war, and [[spoiler: the Moment let the Doctors through to save Gallifrey. Otherwise, both sides could simply time travel back several centuries and build up their forces.]]
** This troper kind of sees it working out as follows:
*** Rassilon is preparing for The Final Sanction. The War Doctor knows about this.
*** The War Doctor steals The Moment, and is prepared to use it. (This is shown in this episode, and discussed in [[{{Recap/DoctorWhoNSS4E17E18TheEndOfTime}} The End of Time]].)
*** Rassilon enacts his plan to escape the time lock, and the events of The End of Time take place.
*** The War Doctor, [[spoiler: with the support of his other selves, decide to enact a plan B of putting Gallifrey in stasis, which will temporarily look to the Universe as if Gallifrey is destroyed]].
*** The Time War itself is still timelocked, but [[spoiler: Gallifrey has been saved from this by being removed from time and placed in stasis]]. (It is then lost, which will presumably lead to The Doctor searching for it.) This leads to a bit of Fridge Horror. (See below.)
* [[CliffhangerCopout When did Eleven and Clara escape the Doctor's timeline]]? [[Recap/DoctorWhoS33E13TheNameOfTheDoctor The Name of the Doctor]] ended with them stuck, and the Doctor had no idea how to get them out.
** This was more the Hurt!Doc's story than Matt-Smith!Doc's tale. Judging by the trailer at the end of the show we'll be rejoining his tale on Christmas. So I'm guessing this is all slightly out of continuity. Think of it being a weird sort of flashback.
** ''Were'' they stuck with no way to get out? Unless I'm forgetting something, after the confrontation with Hurt!Doctor the Eleventh Doctor simply picks up the unconscious Clara and walks off. I don't remember anything else about them being stuck, and that could be taken to imply that the Doctor knows the way out. Presumably Clara by herself would have been stuck but the Doctor was able to navigate his timeline safely to extract them both.
* If the 11th Doctor remembers [[spoiler: saving Gallifrey along with his past incarnations]] and succeeding, then why was [[spoiler: the 12th Doctor there? Just led a hand for old times sake?]]
** Because [[spoiler: he remembered seeing himself there, and knew an additional TARDIS and additional Sonic Screwdriver calculation time might have been necessary for the plan to work]].
** Or because [[spoiler:the calculations ''started'' with the First Doctor, took hundreds of years, and the Tardis was only ''finished'' calculating by the time of the Twelfth. Then HE came back (via the Moment) and shared the solution with the other 12.]]
* The use of [[spoiler: Tom Baker]] as The Curator ensures that the series can never actually ''end'', or, at least, that The Doctor can never really die. [[spoiler: Tom Baker is coming on in the years; unless they run through a number of doctors in a short time, he'll be dead and/or retired by the time the story reaches a point where he could conceivably reach that regeneration. Thus, he can never be shown to reach that regeneration, and, thus, can never die, as it must always lie in his future.]]
** FridgeBrilliance Solution: The Curator could [[spoiler: Be whoever everyone thinks of as the oldest and/or most famous Doctor alive, meaning a future appearance could be an Old!Davison or, even farther in the future, an Old!Tennant or Old!Smith).]]
*** That was actually suggested in-episode, as he said he was revisiting the old faces.
!!FridgeBrilliance
* Dalek Caan and Davros escaping the Time War seems a lot less contrived after TheReveal.
* The War Doctor's TARDIS control room is smaller in design compared to later versions. As the War Doctor, he wasn't accepting any companions.
** It also has the old-style walls with the "circle things" BUT augmented with Nine's curved columns. Since the exterior of the Tardis shows some battle damage, it's implied that the War Doctor started out with the traditional control room, but the Tardis suffered enough damage in the Time War to need that kind of reinforcement (and only "healed" it when it got a full revamp in "The Eleventh Hour.")
** Its actually suggested in-episode that its the ''same'' control room as Nine and Tens, but a hundred years newer. The console looks very similar; the main difference is its shinier. Also, the walls in Nine's/Ten's TARDIS could just be what's behind the Round Things, like with suspended ceiling tiles.
** Note that the high council was offscreen the entire time, only showing military command, and that Rassilon noted that his action in The End of Time were the last day of the war. From Galifrey's perspective, the two episodes were probably concurrent, and [[spoiler: his seers were mistaking being sealed in single moment for a time lock]].
** That makes sense. Maybe the Doctors intentionally [[spoiler:didn't inform Rassilon himself of their plan]]. Doing so would have changed established events in their own timeline.
*** This troper thought that the time lock was there from the start of the war, and [[spoiler: the Moment let the Doctors through to save Gallifrey. Otherwise, both sides could simply time travel back several centuries and build up their forces.]]
** This troper kind of sees it working out as follows:
*** Rassilon is preparing for The Final Sanction. The War Doctor knows about this.
*** The War Doctor steals The Moment, and is prepared to use it. (This is shown in this episode, and discussed in [[{{Recap/DoctorWhoNSS4E17E18TheEndOfTime}} The End of Time]].)
*** Rassilon enacts his plan to escape the time lock, and the events of The End of Time take place.
*** The War Doctor, [[spoiler: with the support of his other selves, decide to enact a plan B of putting Gallifrey in stasis, which will temporarily look to the Universe as if Gallifrey is destroyed]].
*** The Time War itself is still timelocked, but [[spoiler: Gallifrey has been saved from this by being removed from time and placed in stasis]]. (It is then lost, which will presumably lead to The Doctor searching for it.) This leads to a bit of Fridge Horror. (See below.)
* [[CliffhangerCopout When did Eleven and Clara escape the Doctor's timeline]]? [[Recap/DoctorWhoS33E13TheNameOfTheDoctor The Name of the Doctor]] ended with them stuck, and the Doctor had no idea how to get them out.
** This was more the Hurt!Doc's story than Matt-Smith!Doc's tale. Judging by the trailer at the end of the show we'll be rejoining his tale on Christmas. So I'm guessing this is all slightly out of continuity. Think of it being a weird sort of flashback.
** ''Were'' they stuck with no way to get out? Unless I'm forgetting something, after the confrontation with Hurt!Doctor the Eleventh Doctor simply picks up the unconscious Clara and walks off. I don't remember anything else about them being stuck, and that could be taken to imply that the Doctor knows the way out. Presumably Clara by herself would have been stuck but the Doctor was able to navigate his timeline safely to extract them both.
* If the 11th Doctor remembers [[spoiler: saving Gallifrey along with his past incarnations]] and succeeding, then why was [[spoiler: the 12th Doctor there? Just led a hand for old times sake?]]
** Because [[spoiler: he remembered seeing himself there, and knew an additional TARDIS and additional Sonic Screwdriver calculation time might have been necessary for the plan to work]].
** Or because [[spoiler:the calculations ''started'' with the First Doctor, took hundreds of years, and the Tardis was only ''finished'' calculating by the time of the Twelfth. Then HE came back (via the Moment) and shared the solution with the other 12.]]
* The use of [[spoiler: Tom Baker]] as The Curator ensures that the series can never actually ''end'', or, at least, that The Doctor can never really die. [[spoiler: Tom Baker is coming on in the years; unless they run through a number of doctors in a short time, he'll be dead and/or retired by the time the story reaches a point where he could conceivably reach that regeneration. Thus, he can never be shown to reach that regeneration, and, thus, can never die, as it must always lie in his future.]]
** FridgeBrilliance Solution: The Curator could [[spoiler: Be whoever everyone thinks of as the oldest and/or most famous Doctor alive, meaning a future appearance could be an Old!Davison or, even farther in the future, an Old!Tennant or Old!Smith).]]
*** That was actually suggested in-episode, as he said he was revisiting the old faces.
!!FridgeBrilliance
* Dalek Caan and Davros escaping the Time War seems a lot less contrived after TheReveal.
* The War Doctor's TARDIS control room is smaller in design compared to later versions. As the War Doctor, he wasn't accepting any companions.
** It also has the old-style walls with the "circle things" BUT augmented with Nine's curved columns. Since the exterior of the Tardis shows some battle damage, it's implied that the War Doctor started out with the traditional control room, but the Tardis suffered enough damage in the Time War to need that kind of reinforcement (and only "healed" it when it got a full revamp in "The Eleventh Hour.")
** Its actually suggested in-episode that its the ''same'' control room as Nine and Tens, but a hundred years newer. The console looks very similar; the main difference is its shinier. Also, the walls in Nine's/Ten's TARDIS could just be what's behind the Round Things, like with suspended ceiling tiles.
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** Note that the high council was offscreen the entire time, only showing military command, and that Rassilon noted that his action in The End of Time were the last day of the war. From Galifrey's perspective, the two episodes were probably concurrent, and [[spoiler: his seers were mistaking being sealed in single moment for a time lock]].
** That makes sense. Maybe the Doctors intentionally [[spoiler:didn't inform Rassilon himself of their plan]]. Doing so would have changed established events in their own timeline.
*** This troper thought that the time lock was there from the start of the war, and [[spoiler: the Moment let the Doctors through to save Gallifrey. Otherwise, both sides could simply time travel back several centuries and build up their forces.]]
** This troper kind of sees it working out as follows:
*** Rassilon is preparing for The Final Sanction. The War Doctor knows about this.
*** The War Doctor steals The Moment, and is prepared to use it. (This is shown in this episode, and discussed in [[{{Recap/DoctorWhoNSS4E17E18TheEndOfTime}} The End of Time]].)
*** Rassilon enacts his plan to escape the time lock, and the events of The End of Time take place.
*** The War Doctor, [[spoiler: with the support of his other selves, decide to enact a plan B of putting Gallifrey in stasis, which will temporarily look to the Universe as if Gallifrey is destroyed]].
*** The Time War itself is still timelocked, but [[spoiler: Gallifrey has been saved from this by being removed from time and placed in stasis]]. (It is then lost, which will presumably lead to The Doctor searching for it.) This leads to a bit of Fridge Horror. (See below.)
* [[CliffhangerCopout When did Eleven and Clara escape the Doctor's timeline]]? [[Recap/DoctorWhoS33E13TheNameOfTheDoctor The Name of the Doctor]] ended with them stuck, and the Doctor had no idea how to get them out.
** This was more the Hurt!Doc's story than Matt-Smith!Doc's tale. Judging by the trailer at the end of the show we'll be rejoining his tale on Christmas. So I'm guessing this is all slightly out of continuity. Think of it being a weird sort of flashback.
** ''Were'' they stuck with no way to get out? Unless I'm forgetting something, after the confrontation with Hurt!Doctor the Eleventh Doctor simply picks up the unconscious Clara and walks off. I don't remember anything else about them being stuck, and that could be taken to imply that the Doctor knows the way out. Presumably Clara by herself would have been stuck but the Doctor was able to navigate his timeline safely to extract them both.
* If the 11th Doctor remembers [[spoiler: saving Gallifrey along with his past incarnations]] and succeeding, then why was [[spoiler: the 12th Doctor there? Just led a hand for old times sake?]]
** Because [[spoiler: he remembered seeing himself there, and knew an additional TARDIS and additional Sonic Screwdriver calculation time might have been necessary for the plan to work]].
** Or because [[spoiler:the calculations ''started'' with the First Doctor, took hundreds of years, and the Tardis was only ''finished'' calculating by the time of the Twelfth. Then HE came back (via the Moment) and shared the solution with the other 12.]]
* The use of [[spoiler: Tom Baker]] as The Curator ensures that the series can never actually ''end'', or, at least, that The Doctor can never really die. [[spoiler: Tom Baker is coming on in the years; unless they run through a number of doctors in a short time, he'll be dead and/or retired by the time the story reaches a point where he could conceivably reach that regeneration. Thus, he can never be shown to reach that regeneration, and, thus, can never die, as it must always lie in his future.]]
** FridgeBrilliance Solution: The Curator could [[spoiler: Be whoever everyone thinks of as the oldest and/or most famous Doctor alive, meaning a future appearance could be an Old!Davison or, even farther in the future, an Old!Tennant or Old!Smith).]]
*** That was actually suggested in-episode, as he said he was revisiting the old faces.
!!FridgeBrilliance
* Dalek Caan and Davros escaping the Time War seems a lot less contrived after TheReveal.
* The War Doctor's TARDIS control room is smaller in design compared to later versions. As the War Doctor, he wasn't accepting any companions.
** It also has the old-style walls with the "circle things" BUT augmented with Nine's curved columns. Since the exterior of the Tardis shows some battle damage, it's implied that the War Doctor started out with the traditional control room, but the Tardis suffered enough damage in the Time War to need that kind of reinforcement (and only "healed" it when it got a full revamp in "The Eleventh Hour.")
** Its actually suggested in-episode that its the ''same'' control room as Nine and Tens, but a hundred years newer. The console looks very similar; the main difference is its shinier. Also, the walls in Nine's/Ten's TARDIS could just be what's behind the Round Things, like with suspended ceiling tiles.
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***Rassilon has unlimited regens, so he's probably been foiled.
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*** [[spoiler:The Sky Trenches had only just fallen. The bulk of the Dalek forces were still bombarding the planet, while the bulk of the ''Time Lord'' forces were on Gallifrey. There was a LOT of Daleks on the ground, but they won't be getting reinforcements while the Time Lords whittle them down.]]
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*** Who says the Nightmare Child, the Would Have Been King, or the Army of Neverwheres were ''on'' Gallifrey during the Last Day? Bringing Gallifrey out of the timelock in "The End of Time" simply meant, to the Tenth Doctor, that the timelock itself would dissolve, allowing ALL the time-warring factions to come out of it wherever and whenever they pleased.
** [[spoiler:The Lower Council very explicitly states that the High Council (Rassilon's) was in emergency session cooking up its own plans, but the acting leader states that those plans have ''already failed''. And if they ''have'', and Rassilon isn't there to throw his weight around, he's probably dead or lost to them. He might not even be a threat anymore.]]
** [[spoiler:The Lower Council very explicitly states that the High Council (Rassilon's) was in emergency session cooking up its own plans, but the acting leader states that those plans have ''already failed''. And if they ''have'', and Rassilon isn't there to throw his weight around, he's probably dead or lost to them. He might not even be a threat anymore.]]
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** It also has the old-style walls with the "circle things" BUT augmented with Nine's curved columns. Since the exterior of the Tardis shows some battle damage, it's implied that the War Doctor started out with the traditional control room, but the Tardis suffered enough damage in the Time War to need that kind of reinforcement (and only "healed" it when it got a full revamp in "The Eleventh Hour.")
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** Or because [[spoiler:the calculations ''started'' with the First Doctor, took hundreds of years, and the Tardis was only ''finished'' calculating by the time of the Twelfth. Then HE came back (via the Moment) and shared the solution with the other 12.]]
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**** [[spoiler: Maybe that's why Twelve looked so pissed in the brief moment (heh) we saw him: he knows what's coming.]]
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** FridgeBrilliance Solution: The Curator could [[spoiler: Be whoever everyone thinks of as the oldest and/or most famous Doctor alive, meaning a future appearance could be an Old!Davison or, even farther in the future, an Old!Tennant or Old!Smith).]]
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*** Then again, [[spoiler:they're EldritchAbominations. Maybe, being put into stasis isn't good for them]].
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*** Then again, [[spoiler:they're EldritchAbominations. {{EldritchAbomination}}s. Maybe, [[WeaksauceWeakness being put into stasis isn't good for them]].them]]]].
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*** Then again, [[spoiler:they're EldritchAbominations. Maybe, being put into stasis isn't good for them]].
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* Dalek Caan and Davros escaping the Time War seems a lot less contrived after TheReveal.
* Dalek Caan and Davros escaping the Time War seems a lot less contrived after TheReveal.
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** ''Were'' they stuck with no way to get out? Unless I'm forgetting something, after the confrontation with Hurt!Doctor the Eleventh Doctor simply picks up the unconscious Clara and walks off. I don't remember anything else about them being stuck, and that could be taken to imply that the Doctor knows the way out. Presumably Clara by herself would have been stuck but the Doctor was able to navigate his timeline safely to extract them both.
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** Because [[spoiler: he remembered seeing himself there, and knew an additional TARDIS and additional Sonic Screwdriver calculation time might have been necessary for the plan to work]].
* The use of [[spoiler: Tom Baker]] as The Curator ensures that the series can never actually ''end'', or, at least, that The Doctor can never really die. [[spoiler: Tom Baker is coming on in the years; unless they run through a number of doctors in a short time, he'll be dead and/or retired by the time the story reaches a point where he could conceivably reach that regeneration. Thus, he can never be shown to reach that regeneration, and, thus, can never die, as it must always lie in his future.]]
* The use of [[spoiler: Tom Baker]] as The Curator ensures that the series can never actually ''end'', or, at least, that The Doctor can never really die. [[spoiler: Tom Baker is coming on in the years; unless they run through a number of doctors in a short time, he'll be dead and/or retired by the time the story reaches a point where he could conceivably reach that regeneration. Thus, he can never be shown to reach that regeneration, and, thus, can never die, as it must always lie in his future.]]
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* If the 11th Doctor remembers [[spoiler: saving Gallifrey along with his past incarnations]] and succeeding, then why was [[spoiler: the 12th Doctor there? Just led a hand for old times sake?]]
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** There's also the issue of all the [[spoiler: [[EldritchAbomination Nightmare Child and it's ilk]]. If the Moment didn't destroy everything, does that mean they potentially survived the war as well?]]
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** To make matters worse, [[spoiler: the Dalek Empire has recovered by now thanks to Victory of the Daleks. Unless things change, recovering Galifrey will cause hostilities between the Daleks and the Time Lords to resume, re-starting the War]].
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** To make matters worse, [[spoiler: the Dalek Empire has recovered by now thanks to Victory of the Daleks. Unless things change, recovering Galifrey will cause hostilities between the Daleks and the Time Lords to resume, re-starting the War]].War]].
* The Omega Vault contains all the most dangerous and forbidden weapons of mass destruction that the Time Lords have come across in their history…[[spoiler: and except for The Moment, ''they have already used them all'', ]]
* The Omega Vault contains all the most dangerous and forbidden weapons of mass destruction that the Time Lords have come across in their history…[[spoiler: and except for The Moment, ''they have already used them all'', ]]
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** [[spoiler: To say nothing of the ''thousands'' of Dalek ground troops that were fighting on the surface of Gallifrey. The Doctors’ clever plan only annihilated the ones that were in the orbiting fleet.]]
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** [[spoiler: To say nothing of the ''thousands'' of Dalek ground troops that were fighting on the surface of Gallifrey. The Doctors’ clever plan only annihilated the ones that were in the orbiting fleet.]]]]
** To make matters worse, [[spoiler: the Dalek Empire has recovered by now thanks to Victory of the Daleks. Unless things change, recovering Galifrey will cause hostilities between the Daleks and the Time Lords to resume, re-starting the War]].
** To make matters worse, [[spoiler: the Dalek Empire has recovered by now thanks to Victory of the Daleks. Unless things change, recovering Galifrey will cause hostilities between the Daleks and the Time Lords to resume, re-starting the War]].
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* The Doctor will now presumably search for [[spoiler: Gallifrey and rescue it from stasis]]. In doing so, he will also be releasing [[spoiler: The Master]] back into the Universe. Worse then this, however, [[spoiler: Gallifrey]] still presumably contains a very pissed off [[spoiler: Rassilon who was ready to use The Final Sanction. Even if he no longer seems to think that necessary (although that is far from a given) he'd likely be pretty pissed at The Doctor personally for thwarting him in [[{{Recap/DoctorWhoNSS4E17E18TheEndOfTime}} The End of Time]]]].
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* The Doctor will now presumably search for [[spoiler: Gallifrey and rescue it from stasis]]. In doing so, he will also be releasing [[spoiler: The Master]] back into the Universe. Worse then this, however, [[spoiler: Gallifrey]] still presumably contains a very pissed off [[spoiler: Rassilon who was ready to use The Final Sanction. Even if he no longer seems to think that necessary (although that is far from a given) he'd likely be pretty pissed at The Doctor personally for thwarting him in [[{{Recap/DoctorWhoNSS4E17E18TheEndOfTime}} The End of Time]]]].Time]]]].
** [[spoiler: To say nothing of the ''thousands'' of Dalek ground troops that were fighting on the surface of Gallifrey. The Doctors’ clever plan only annihilated the ones that were in the orbiting fleet.]]
** [[spoiler: To say nothing of the ''thousands'' of Dalek ground troops that were fighting on the surface of Gallifrey. The Doctors’ clever plan only annihilated the ones that were in the orbiting fleet.]]
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*** The War Doctor steals The Moment, and is prepared to use it. (This is shown in this episode, and discussed in [[{{Recap/DoctorWhoNSS4E17E18TheEndOfTime}} The End of Time]].
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*** The War Doctor steals The Moment, and is prepared to use it. (This is shown in this episode, and discussed in [[{{Recap/DoctorWhoNSS4E17E18TheEndOfTime}} The End of Time]].)
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** This troper kind of sees it working out as follows:
*** Rassilon is preparing for The Final Sanction. The War Doctor knows about this.
*** The War Doctor steals The Moment, and is prepared to use it. (This is shown in this episode, and discussed in [[{{Recap/DoctorWhoNSS4E17E18TheEndOfTime}} The End of Time]].
*** Rassilon enacts his plan to escape the time lock, and the events of The End of Time take place.
*** The War Doctor, [[spoiler: with the support of his other selves, decide to enact a plan B of putting Gallifrey in stasis, which will temporarily look to the Universe as if Gallifrey is destroyed]].
*** The Time War itself is still timelocked, but [[spoiler: Gallifrey has been saved from this by being removed from time and placed in stasis]]. (It is then lost, which will presumably lead to The Doctor searching for it.) This leads to a bit of Fridge Horror. (See below.)
*** Rassilon is preparing for The Final Sanction. The War Doctor knows about this.
*** The War Doctor steals The Moment, and is prepared to use it. (This is shown in this episode, and discussed in [[{{Recap/DoctorWhoNSS4E17E18TheEndOfTime}} The End of Time]].
*** Rassilon enacts his plan to escape the time lock, and the events of The End of Time take place.
*** The War Doctor, [[spoiler: with the support of his other selves, decide to enact a plan B of putting Gallifrey in stasis, which will temporarily look to the Universe as if Gallifrey is destroyed]].
*** The Time War itself is still timelocked, but [[spoiler: Gallifrey has been saved from this by being removed from time and placed in stasis]]. (It is then lost, which will presumably lead to The Doctor searching for it.) This leads to a bit of Fridge Horror. (See below.)
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** This was more the Hurt!Doc's story than Matt-Smith!Doc's tale. Judging by the trailer at the end of the show we'll be rejoining his tale on Christmas. So I'm guessing this is all slightly out of continuity. Think of it being a weird sort of flashback.flashback.
!!FridgeHorror
* The Doctor will now presumably search for [[spoiler: Gallifrey and rescue it from stasis]]. In doing so, he will also be releasing [[spoiler: The Master]] back into the Universe. Worse then this, however, [[spoiler: Gallifrey]] still presumably contains a very pissed off [[spoiler: Rassilon who was ready to use The Final Sanction. Even if he no longer seems to think that necessary (although that is far from a given) he'd likely be pretty pissed at The Doctor personally for thwarting him in [[{{Recap/DoctorWhoNSS4E17E18TheEndOfTime}} The End of Time]]]].
!!FridgeHorror
* The Doctor will now presumably search for [[spoiler: Gallifrey and rescue it from stasis]]. In doing so, he will also be releasing [[spoiler: The Master]] back into the Universe. Worse then this, however, [[spoiler: Gallifrey]] still presumably contains a very pissed off [[spoiler: Rassilon who was ready to use The Final Sanction. Even if he no longer seems to think that necessary (although that is far from a given) he'd likely be pretty pissed at The Doctor personally for thwarting him in [[{{Recap/DoctorWhoNSS4E17E18TheEndOfTime}} The End of Time]]]].
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** This was more the Hurt!Doc's story than Matt-Smith!Doc's tale. Judging by the trailer at the end of the show we'll be rejoining his tale on Christmas. So I'm guessing this is all slightly out of continuity. Think of it being a weird sort of flashback.
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** This was more the Hurt!Doc's story than Matt-Smith!Doc's tale. Judging by the trailer at the end of the show we'll be rejoining his tale on Christmas. So I'm guessing this is all slightly out of continuity. Think of it being a weird sort of flashback.
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* [[CliffhangerCopout When did Eleven and Clara escape the Doctor's timeline]]? [[Recap/DoctorWhoS33E13TheNameOfTheDoctor The Name of the Doctor]] ended with them stuck, and the Doctor had no idea how to get them out.
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* [[CliffhangerCopout When did Eleven and Clara escape the Doctor's timeline]]? [[Recap/DoctorWhoS33E13TheNameOfTheDoctor The Name of the Doctor]] ended with them stuck, and the Doctor had no idea how to get them out.out.
** This was more the Hurt!Doc's story than Matt-Smith!Doc's tale. Judging by the trailer at the end of the show we'll be rejoining his tale on Christmas. So I'm guessing this is all slightly out of continuity. Think of it being a weird sort of flashback.
** This was more the Hurt!Doc's story than Matt-Smith!Doc's tale. Judging by the trailer at the end of the show we'll be rejoining his tale on Christmas. So I'm guessing this is all slightly out of continuity. Think of it being a weird sort of flashback.
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*** This troper thought that the time lock was there from the start of the war, and [[spoiler: the Moment let the Doctors through to save Gallifrey. Otherwise, both sides could simply time travel back several centuries and build up their forces.]]
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*** This troper thought that the time lock was there from the start of the war, and [[spoiler: the Moment let the Doctors through to save Gallifrey. Otherwise, both sides could simply time travel back several centuries and build up their forces.]]]]
* [[CliffhangerCopout When did Eleven and Clara escape the Doctor's timeline]]? [[Recap/DoctorWhoS33E13TheNameOfTheDoctor The Name of the Doctor]] ended with them stuck, and the Doctor had no idea how to get them out.
* [[CliffhangerCopout When did Eleven and Clara escape the Doctor's timeline]]? [[Recap/DoctorWhoS33E13TheNameOfTheDoctor The Name of the Doctor]] ended with them stuck, and the Doctor had no idea how to get them out.
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** That makes sense. Maybe the Doctors intentionally [[spoiler:didn't inform Rassilon himself of their plan]]. Doing so would have changed established events in their own timeline.
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** That makes sense. Maybe the Doctors intentionally [[spoiler:didn't inform Rassilon himself of their plan]]. Doing so would have changed established events in their own timeline.timeline.
*** This troper thought that the time lock was there from the start of the war, and [[spoiler: the Moment let the Doctors through to save Gallifrey. Otherwise, both sides could simply time travel back several centuries and build up their forces.]]
*** This troper thought that the time lock was there from the start of the war, and [[spoiler: the Moment let the Doctors through to save Gallifrey. Otherwise, both sides could simply time travel back several centuries and build up their forces.]]
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** Note that the high council was offscreen the entire time, only showing military command, and that Rassilon noted that his action in The End of Time were the last day of the war. From Galifrey's perspective, the two episodes were probably concurrent, and [[spoiler: his seers were mistaking being sealed in single moment for a time lock]].
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** Note that the high council was offscreen the entire time, only showing military command, and that Rassilon noted that his action in The End of Time were the last day of the war. From Galifrey's perspective, the two episodes were probably concurrent, and [[spoiler: his seers were mistaking being sealed in single moment for a time lock]].lock]].
** That makes sense. Maybe the Doctors intentionally [[spoiler:didn't inform Rassilon himself of their plan]]. Doing so would have changed established events in their own timeline.
** That makes sense. Maybe the Doctors intentionally [[spoiler:didn't inform Rassilon himself of their plan]]. Doing so would have changed established events in their own timeline.
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* If [[spoiler:Gallifrey wasn't destroyed]], then how and why [[spoiler:did the events of Recap/DoctorWhoNSS4E17E18TheEndOfTime come to happen]]? [[spoiler:The first part of Rassilon's plan was to get out of the time lock which, as shown by this episode, never existed]].
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* If [[spoiler:Gallifrey wasn't destroyed]], then how and why [[spoiler:did the events of Recap/DoctorWhoNSS4E17E18TheEndOfTime come to happen]]? [[spoiler:The first part of Rassilon's plan was to get out of the time lock which, as shown by this episode, never existed]].existed]].
** Note that the high council was offscreen the entire time, only showing military command, and that Rassilon noted that his action in The End of Time were the last day of the war. From Galifrey's perspective, the two episodes were probably concurrent, and [[spoiler: his seers were mistaking being sealed in single moment for a time lock]].
** Note that the high council was offscreen the entire time, only showing military command, and that Rassilon noted that his action in The End of Time were the last day of the war. From Galifrey's perspective, the two episodes were probably concurrent, and [[spoiler: his seers were mistaking being sealed in single moment for a time lock]].
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!!FridgeLogic
* If [[spoiler:Gallifrey wasn't destroyed]], then how and why [[spoiler:did the events of Recap/DoctorWhoNSS4E17E18TheEndOfTime come to happen]]? [[spoiler:The first part of Rassilon's plan was to get out of the time lock which, as shown by this episode, never existed]].
* If [[spoiler:Gallifrey wasn't destroyed]], then how and why [[spoiler:did the events of Recap/DoctorWhoNSS4E17E18TheEndOfTime come to happen]]? [[spoiler:The first part of Rassilon's plan was to get out of the time lock which, as shown by this episode, never existed]].
